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The Inquisition was just as bad, but that’s ancient history.

ALL religions are man-made and rely on brainwashing. Christianity is no different in this respect, but Islam is a lot more medieval.

Peace!

Eradicate Christianity: world is Hell. Everyone suffers, our entire civilization crashes.

Eradicate Islam: world is better. Peoples are free, all have the same human rights, women are equal to men, no one is oppressed. Look back through history and you will see that most of the troubles the world has faced have come from megalomaniac tyrants, with Mohammed heading the list due to his continued influence through Islam. Hitler lasted a few years, Napoleon a few decades; if either had thought to create a false religion, we’d still be knee deep in troubles from them.

We are not fighting “terrorism”…. terrorism is a tactic and not an enemy, we are in fact fighting Islam and we very desperately need to wake up to that fact.

Maxx on August 19, 2007 at 11:55 PM

Truer words have never been spoken Maxx.

you are sage, indeed!

….we should not treat Islam as our enemy, just those Muslims who are. Or do you think that American Muslim troops and FBI agents are all (or even mostly) traitors?

jic on August 19, 2007 at 9:45 PM

There is a difference between treating Islam as the enemy and treating every Islamic as the enemy. Islam itself MUST be recognized as the enemy because it IS. Not to realize this fact is a grave mistake. We are not fighting “terrorism”…. terrorism is a tactic and not an enemy, we are in fact fighting Islam and we very desperately need to wake up to that fact.

Islam is not simply a religion, it is a political ideology whose primary purpose is world conquest.

Right, so constrain the political aspects of Islam through enforcement of the Smith Act and allow non-supremacist Muslims to worship in peace.

haven’t really paid much attention to any of those countries have you….Free of the oppression that is Islam…not by a long shot.

They haven’t been a part of the Dar al-Islam for centuries. Spain has only been targeted by immigration and al-Qaeda in the last few years.

It must be blissful to be able to delude oneself into thinking they want us to simply tolerate them.

Islam is not a religion it is a form of government. The poor bastages in North Korea have a better since of personal freedom and happiness than the poor wretches dominated by Mohamed’s brand of tyranny

Off the top of my head, Spain and India. That’s two, by the way.

jic on August 19, 2007 at 9:39 PM

Oh, yeah, Greece too.

haven’t really paid much attention to any of those countries have you….Free of the oppression that is Islam…not by a long shot.

jic on August 19, 2007 at 9:56 PM

No you were actually done in this thread a long time ago, now unable to support the lame rhetoric you have spouted you are just running off.

Indeed , his type of dumbassery is why I tire of Islamic sycophants.

And your kind of “dumbassery” is why I am done on this thread.

You have had this explained to you at least a dozen times so one can only conclude that you either suffer from a willful self-inflected stupidity or are intentionally attempting to add and abet a group attempting to subvert and destroy America.

Indeed , his type of dumbassery is why I tire of Islamic sycophants.

So your argument is basically that we shouldn’t even consider the banning of Islam in America because that would REALLY make them mad at us.

No, it’s that we should not treat Islam as our enemy, just those Muslims who are. Or do you think that American Muslim troops and FBI agents are all (or even mostly) traitors?

So your argument is basically that we shouldn’t even consider the banning of Islam in America because that would REALLY make them mad at us. Well… we have already invaded not one… but two Islamic countries, we’ve killed or jailed dozens of their Islamic leaders and we are contemplating going to war with a third Islamic country which is Iran. If that’s not enough to cause the average peaceful Moslem to become a jihadi then I don’t think we need to worry about an Islamic ban in America putting them over the top.

Besides, you don’t win wars by worrying about how upset your enemy is going to become because of your actions.

As far as making a mockery of freedom of religion, doriangrey already pointed to a solution with the Smith Act. I personally take a dimmer view, my opinion is that Islam is a “death cult” and NOT a religion, thus there is no First Amendment disparity.

Just remember this, there is not and never has been a single nation in the 1600 years of Islams existence that having fallen to Islam has ever regained its freedom from Islam.

Off the top of my head, Spain and India. That’s two, by the way.

You have had this explained to you at least a dozen times so one can only conclude that you either suffer from a willful self-inflected stupidity or are intentionally attempting to add and abet a group attempting to subvert and destroy America.

The appropriate response to that would get me banned here, and with good reason. So I’ll just settle for:

Bite me.

Lets say that we outlaw Islam in the US. We’ve just handed a huge propaganda victory to the terrorists. And by pissing off those Muslims that don’t support terrorism, we have just made sure that the FBI tip line dries up overnight, and that a large part of the pool of qualified interpreters have no interest in helping us.

Seriously…put the crack pipe down and back slowly away from it.

We have also made a mockery of freedom of religion while claiming that we are trying to protect it. And that’s how we’re supposed to win?

You have had this explained to you at least a dozen times so one can only conclude that you either suffer from a willful self-inflected stupidity or are intentionally attempting to add and abet a group attempting to subvert and destroy America.

Islam is not simply a religion, it is a political ideology whose primary purpose is world conquest. But you just go ahead and continue to make moral equivalences as if somehow America taking the actions necessary for its survival would somehow make a mockery of the freedoms protected by representative democracy.

Just remember this, there is not and never has been a single nation in the 1600 years of Islams existence that having fallen to Islam has ever regained its freedom from Islam. And of all the nations to fall to Islam only Israel Pakistan and Turkey have anything that could even remotely be described as democratic, both Pakistan and Turkey are subject to Sharia, while Israel fights a daily bloody battle against militant Islam.

NF is only taking offense at the notion that he and his ilk might be deprived of another tool with which they might bring about the destruction of the evil American hegemony. NF would much rather be subjected to Islamic submission until such a time as he and his socialist/communist brethren can overthrow their new Islamic masters than to suffer under the oppression of a vile evil American capitalist representative Democracy.

doriangrey on August 19, 2007 at 8:32 PM

I disagree. I think what makes the millions of people like Nonfactor dangerous is precisely their sincere, simplistic notions of moral goodness.

Lets say that we outlaw Islam in the US. We’ve just handed a huge propaganda victory to the terrorists. And by pissing off those Muslims that don’t support terrorism, we have just made sure that the FBI tip line dries up overnight, and that a large part of the pool of qualified interpreters have no interest in helping us.

jic on August 19, 2007 at 7:23 PM

For the reasons you’ve given, I wouldn’t support the Americans’ attempting to outlaw Islam in the U.S. except as part of a comprehensive strategy to destroy it globally.

We have also made a mockery of freedom of religion while claiming that we are trying to protect it. And that’s how we’re supposed to win?

jic on August 19, 2007 at 7:23 PM

Accepting for the sake of discussion that the two really are inconsistent, I respond that consistency between words and deeds in warfare is repulsive, except in those beautiful cases in which it seems conducive to victory.

Are you just now taking offense?

NF is only taking offense at the notion that he and his ilk might be deprived of another tool with which they might bring about the destruction of the evil American hegemony. NF would much rather be subjected to Islamic submission until such a time as he and his socialist/communist brethren can overthrow their new Islamic masters than to suffer under the oppression of a vile evil American capitalist representative Democracy.

Are people seriously talking about banning an entire religion?

Nonfactor on August 18, 2007 at 4:44 PM

For 1400 years, the Qur’an has taught that believers in every other religion are to be converted, killed, or drained by taxes. Are you just now taking offense?

If you have a defense of communism I’d like to hear it.

Of course I don’t have a defense of communism. Communism is indefensible. That doesn’t mean that the Birchers were useful in the fight against communism. If anything, the opposite was true. These were the people who called Eisenhower an agent of communism. Their modern-day counterparts are just as much of a liability in the fight against islamofascism.

Lets say that we outlaw Islam in the US. We’ve just handed a huge propaganda victory to the terrorists. And by pissing off those Muslims that don’t support terrorism, we have just made sure that the FBI tip line dries up overnight, and that a large part of the pool of qualified interpreters have no interest in helping us. We have also made a mockery of freedom of religion while claiming that we are trying to protect it. And that’s how we’re supposed to win?

Eh just to stay on topic I agree the Smith Act should be enforced. No need to ban Islam or deport Muslims, just prosecute accordingly those who practice literally the aspects of their religion that are irreconcilable with American liberty. Oh and fix the INS, hire more border patrol guards and set tougher restrictions on Saudi immigration.

How dare you quote such vile Islamophobic racist madmen……How dare you sir… /snark