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Columnist who cheered Rove’s resignation in the newsroom blames loss of media credibility on, um, bloggers

posted at 11:51 am on August 17, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Good stuff. Usually when they sneer at bloggers they preface it with lip service about the theoretical virtues of citizen journalism or nutroots-powered politics, just to prove that they’re populists at heart. Not here. Note the choice of metaphor: you can practically smell the filth as the riffraff befouls the white marble Hall of Liberal Justice.

Times Executive Editor David Boardman was dismayed at our outburst.

In an internal memo to the newsroom, he wrote, “A good newsroom is a sacred and magical place in which we can and should test every assumption, challenge each other’s thinking, ask the fundamental questions those in power hope we will overlook.

“… It is about independent thinking and sound, facts-based journalism,” he continued, “the difference between what we do and the myopic screed that is passed off as ‘advocacy journalism’ these days.”

Not buying that? I can’t blame you. The hallowed halls of journalism that I was privileged to enter more than 20 years ago are looking more and more like the New York subway. The walls covered in bloggers’ scrawl, the platform crowded with any yahoo with a camera and an open mike. All are headed to your computer screen or television for the 15 seconds you’ll give them before moving on to the next hot spot.

That’s not how we do things at this newspaper.

Here, every morning, some 20 smart, educated, well-read and diverse people gather around a table and talk. We offer opinions on how stories were approached, written and presented. We say what worked, what didn’t, and how we can do it better next time.

A little smarter, a little better, a little braver, a little more ethical even when they refuse to correct erroneous stories or donate overwhelmingly to one party while politely declining to mention the fact. America’s priesthood, baby — the intercessor you dumb, ill educated, unread, monolithic rabble need.

Exit question: Why not just cop to the bias so that you can cheer all you want?


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Columnist who cheered Rove’s resignation in the newsroom blames loss of media credibility on, um, bloggers

That is like blaming the microscope for the existence of bacteria.

MB4 on August 17, 2007 at 11:58 AM

Of course it’s the fault of bloggers … for exposing their bias. If you guys would quit exposing their bias, they might have at least a semblance of credibility (when they are not exposing it themselves, which is often).

Bloggers should be honored by the words of Brodeur and her ilk.

thirteen28 on August 17, 2007 at 11:59 AM

Exit question: Why not just cop to the bias so that you can cheer all you want?

In order to do that they must first get a clue that they are biased. They believe the tripe they put out is the absolute truth. So to themselves they are completely unbiased.

Kowboy on August 17, 2007 at 12:04 PM

The Emperor’s New Clothes……imagine that.

Limerick on August 17, 2007 at 12:04 PM

Well, I gotta say, this guy ought to be an expert on “advocacy journalism.” The NYT has been advocating for the Democrat party for more than 30 years now.

And their continued devotion to a leftist ideology in the face of overwhelming evidence that it is a failed ideology sort of undermines that claim to being “smart, educated, and well-read.”

Rational Thought on August 17, 2007 at 12:05 PM

But I shouldn’t have. It lacked consideration for other people in the room who may have other views about Karl Rove and George Bush, and held their tongues. It also flew in the face of the standard of objectivity that we as journalists try to uphold every day. Worse, it validates every fear people have about the media.

All these years, and I’m still learning.

And still passionate. I just need to choose my spots.

What a loser. She admits she shouldn’t have cheered, not because it was wrong, and the very fact that she wanted to cheer indicates the “standard of objectivity” is a ridiculous sham, but because it might have hurt someone’s feelings and momentarily lifted the mask from the face of the beast.

Worse, it validates every fear people have about the media.

Fear? We don’t fear you, you dolt. We know who and what you are and we despise you.

peski on August 17, 2007 at 12:06 PM

What credibility?

Newspapers (and all for profit media) are businesses.

They are in existence to sell ad space, primarily.

The news changes to fit the marketing needs.

If the consumers are no longer buying the slant, the media will fade away.

They (the owners, etc.) can pour their own money in to keep the farce up and running a little longer, but, unless some Saudis bankroll the operation as a loss leader, eventually the most unrealistic papers (magazines, news channels) will evaporate into the buggy whip zone.

Delusions ultimately hit reality.

And bankruptcy.

profitsbeard on August 17, 2007 at 12:12 PM

I’ll bet the “progressive” I saw driving down I-5 this morning with the Legalize Toture on Republicans sign works in the Times’ newsroom.

Editor on August 17, 2007 at 12:14 PM

Here, every morning, some 20 smart, educated, well-read and diverse people gather around a table and talk. We offer opinions on how stories were approached, written and presented. We say what worked, what didn’t, and how we can do it better next time.

diverse?! diverse?! you’ve got to be kidding me.

Guess what Buddy? Your process doesn’t work when everybody around the table shares the same ideology and the belief that their job is to push it.

TheBigOldDog on August 17, 2007 at 12:16 PM

Here, every morning, some 20something smart, educated, well-read and diverse people

Is this like the video of the one newspaper, editorial meeting where the token woman and the black guy were standing at the back?

LakeRuins on August 17, 2007 at 12:17 PM

By the way, I don’t know if Nicole was at the Times when Michelle was around these parts, but if so, ooooo i’ll be she’d have some stories.

Editor on August 17, 2007 at 12:18 PM

Geeze “I’ll bet” in 2 consecutive posts.

I’ll be out back flogging myself.

Editor on August 17, 2007 at 12:19 PM

> If the consumers are no longer buying the slant, the media will fade away.

And that is precisely what is happening. In 1984 total newspaper circulation was 63.3 million, but by 2006 it fell to 43.7 million. This is while the population at large was increasing from 236M to 300M.

But the liberals on the big papers simply don’t get it — or else they just want to hang until they can retire.

SunSword on August 17, 2007 at 12:20 PM

Recall that Peter Jennings stated that the press cannot choose sides and cheer America when it is at war, because they have to stay “objective”. However, apparently, they are staying objective by choosing sides in politics (Democrats vs Republicans, Liberals/Progressives vs Conservatives, Secularists vs Christians, Islamists vs Christians, etc).

Michael in MI on August 17, 2007 at 12:22 PM

diverse?! diverse?! you’ve got to be kidding me.

Guess what Buddy? Your process doesn’t work when everybody around the table shares the same ideology and the belief that their job is to push it.

TheBigOldDog on August 17, 2007 at 12:16 PM

We like diversity. We want people of all different colors and sizes and shapes and sexual orientations … who so happen to think exactly like we do. Because we like diversity.

Sincerely,

All the Liberals All Over Everywhere

thirteen28 on August 17, 2007 at 12:23 PM

I’ll bet the “progressive” I saw driving down I-5 this morning with the Legalize Toture on Republicans sign works in the Times’ newsroom.

Editor on August 17, 2007 at 12:14 PM

Ah, you must’ve encountered the party of peace and tolerance.

amerpundit on August 17, 2007 at 12:24 PM

Anyone else that knows newspaper people find them particularly smart, educated, well-read, and diverse? Odd, me neither.

I find them to be among the bottom of the college liberal arts barrel, stupider and less ambitious (and whiter) than everyone they go to school with except the future public school teachers, who are at least more diverse.

These are people who can’t figure out what else to do, so they take a hilariously low paying job reporting for the local paper on car accidents and burglaries, and lie their way up the ladder to Op/Ed page slanderer.

Jaibones on August 17, 2007 at 12:32 PM

Exit question: Why not just cop to the bias so that you can cheer all you want?

Because then they can no longer wear the “free press” hat.

PatrickS on August 17, 2007 at 12:33 PM

Sure the NYT journalists are diverse- some identify as Democrats, some as liberals, others as progressives. SOme post at DU, some at Kos, some at HuffPo. Some voted for Kerry the last election, others for Nader. Plenty of diversity to go around.

Hollowpoint on August 17, 2007 at 12:33 PM

“A good newsroom is a sacred and magical place in which we can and should test every assumption, challenge each other’s thinking, ask the fundamental questions those in power hope we will overlook….”

“…as long as it is not my assumptions being tested, not my thinking being challenged, and not my power being questioned.”

calbear on August 17, 2007 at 12:34 PM

Dear Nicole,

You can go to hell.

You wrote: “Here, every morning, some 20 smart, educated, well-read and diverse people gather around a table and talk.” What you meant to write was that “18 LIBERAL, BUSH-HATING, CONSERVATIVE-DESPISING, DUES-PAYING DEMOCRATS sit down and determine how they will spin the days events to advance the fortunes of the Party. Two of them sit on their hands because they don’t want to be ostracized by the rest of us.” According to PEW, 90% of you media folks are registered Democrats.

You also wrote: “We are at war.” We most certainly are. The problem, Ms. Brodeur, is that YOU are at war with George W. Bush, NOT Al Qaeda or the Islamofascists. That is whom the rest of the nation is fighting. You have been at war against Bush since December 12, 2000, and EVERYBODY KNOWS IT!

You wrote: “I cheered because I thought I could.” What you meant to say was that YOU THOUGHT YOU COULD GET AWAY WITH IT, and you only regret getting caught.

And finally you wrote: “I just need to choose my spots.” Yes. You do. If I owned your paper, that spot would be the unemployment line. As it is, I’ll reserve a spot on my back lawn just for you. I’m sure my Lab won’t mind sharing piddle-space for another moon-howling, mad dog, barking liberal.

georgej on August 17, 2007 at 12:39 PM

Elitist bullcrap.

MT on August 17, 2007 at 12:40 PM

this is a perfect example of:
education does not make a person smart, just educated.

doggod on August 17, 2007 at 12:47 PM

Here, every morning, some 20 smart, educated, well-read and diverse people gather around a table and talk. We offer opinions on how stories were approached, written and presented. We say what worked, what didn’t, and how we can do it better next time.

In other words, they work on how they can make the Dems look better and draw horns on the Republican boogeyman of the day.

Sean M. on August 17, 2007 at 12:53 PM

“Bush’s resolve proves we’re screaming into the wind.”

This quote grabbed my attention. Why? Because they (the MSM) haven’t changed the President’s mind like they could with Clinton’s? I suppose she just can’t stand someone who actually has resolve against jihad.

Keep shrilling girl. Someday that wind will consume you like a whirling dervish.

JohnnyD on August 17, 2007 at 12:56 PM

The hallowed halls of journalism that I was privileged to enter more than 20 years ago are looking more and more like the New York subway.

This would be a good line if the writer actually knew anything about the New York subway. But that’s OK; New York Times journos don’t either, unless they have to cover it for a story.

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on August 17, 2007 at 1:00 PM

and in our hit counts that keep going through the roof. We are just a few days away from matching last month’s record for site traffic and it’s only July 19. There are still 12 days left in the month! When I walk through the Seattle Times offices these days, everyone wants to stop and talk about the blog.

Ironically, that was written on Times’ Mariners blog.

This is just another case of a dinosaur journalist realizing that the “gatecrashers” are making them irrelevant, especially when forced to compete with fresh talent on the open market.

rw on August 17, 2007 at 1:06 PM

“Not buying that? I can’t blame you. The hallowed halls of journalism that I was privileged to enter more than 20 years ago are looking more and more like the New York subway.”

“…& the Words of the Prophets are written on the Subway Walls & Tenement Halls….echoed in the Sounds of Silence…”
something like that….Simon & GarF.

lobosan5 on August 17, 2007 at 1:30 PM

Yeah Right, 20 smart people, people that can’t do physics, can’t be engineers, can’t be doctors or lawyers, and certainly can’t teach. These are the bright minds that are too stupid to do anything but write crap.

David on August 17, 2007 at 1:33 PM

Why not just cop to the bias so that you can cheer all you want?

Because they really and truly, don’t believe they ARE biased. Show them constantly, where there bias is and there will always be a “yeah, but..” Point/counterpoint will always be their defence. It will simply come down to, whether it is economically feasible, to have a 20 or 30 story building, stuffed with journalists and support staff or a 1 room office, with a table for 4 and a computer.

captivated_dem on August 17, 2007 at 1:37 PM

If you want to cheer Nicole, go to a Seahawks game (a la 12th man).

My collie says:

Do you suppose that she’ll really feel more comfortable cheering in a large crowd of fat, noisy men — men who are all the while drinking beer, belching, passing gas, making cat-calls, and shouting obscenities?

It’s where she belongs.

CyberCipher on August 17, 2007 at 1:42 PM

How can they be biased when everyone they know agrees with them?

/

JammieWearingFool on August 17, 2007 at 1:43 PM

This is what liberals are most upset about.

True to form, Rove spins own resignation

By Jeremy Herron, AP Business Writer | August 13, 2007

NEW YORK –On the day it was revealed that the man credited with putting President Bush in the White House was quitting, there were no banner headlines in the country’s major newspapers.

There was no mention of it on the front page of The Washington Post, The New York Times or USA Today.

That’s because Karl Rove, Bush’s close friend and chief political strategist, chose to quietly make the announcement through an interview with longtime acquaintance Paul Gigot, the editorial page editor of the Wall Street Journal.

It was Rove doing what he has done, consummately, for his tenure in The White House: controlling the message.

______________________________________________

On a side note, I found this on her blog:

April 14, 2007

That little voice in my head? That’s Al Gore

Posted by Nicole Brodeur at 11:37 AM

Hi, my name is Nicole and I am destroying the planet.

I have two cars, often drive alone, haphazardly sort my trash, receive too many of my statements on paper and, worse, know full well I am not doing enough. How can any of us NOT know? Every day, we’re reminded of what’s at stake: That layer of something hanging around Mount Rainier. The hot stench of traffic. The snow that never lasts very long.

That little voice in my head? That’s Al Gore.

We buy containers for our recycling, for our compost, but that’s also part of the problem: We still buy, buy, buy. We consume. We waste. We don’t pause to think of the ripple effect our actions have not only on the near future, but the lives of the others we’re trying to build.

I don’t want to be one of those people any more. I want to be an every-little-bit-counts person. Day by day, week by week, I am going to try to change the way I use this planet, in the hope of adding more days to those who come after me.

What is the rule for those who climb the mountains we so love? Leave no trace. I’d like to live every day that way. And if I leave anything, it’s green.

_________________________

It wasn’t Nicole that cheered, it was the little voice of Al Gore that told her too!

kiakjones on August 17, 2007 at 1:47 PM

Dear Nicole, & Al G.too….here is all you need to do. My Italian immigrant parents taught me this. Never buy on credit….if you don’t have the cash up-front to but it…you can’t afford it. This is called ‘the depression ethic’…it works. It will help alleviate those nasty carbon footprints that are a product of over-consumption from inflated budgets that happen all too often from credit cards.

lobosan5 on August 17, 2007 at 2:06 PM

I have reported for a newspaper that many HotAir readers would recognize. The time I spent in that newsroom and out on assignment was eye opening and formative.

I went in on the lookout for blatant bias and lax journalistic standards. But that’s not exactly what I found. I think that many of us, myself included, stereotype the press.

Certainly journalists are overwhelmingly Democrats, if not liberal. And yes, that previously unchallenged veneer of journalistic integrity has been proved to be quite porous. Everyday, there are examples of factual and contextual errors.

A newsroom has several departments wherein there is no cause to reveal one’s political leanings. Advertising, sports and obits really don’t get into politics. And oddly enough, sports and obits are the most consistently read sections of most papers. No matter the headlines, there are people scanning scores and deaths. Also business and community sections aren’t very politically charged.

So this image of one newsroom like Seattle or MSNBC coming together in a hail Caesar cheer is rare, per my experience. Rather, what seems to happen is that the hard news and features are covered by a very homogenous group of people. But they don’t see themselves that way.

I think just like most of us show up at work planning to work hard, so do journalists. And they do work hard. Fact gathering and checking along with skip tracing and ass kissing are part of the daily fare. Then there is the pressure of writing a decent lede and story. Most Americans take pride in their work and should, as should most journalists. Everyday, we get most of our news 99% from traditional journalists. Even with the advent and revolution of citizen journalism or crowd sourcing, we still get the facts from the fact gatherers, reporters.

Then how do things get so screwed up? Why is there a palpable liberal bias in political, environmental, fiscal, educational, civic and social news?

Until recently, journalists reported on everything except themselves. Though journalism has been the silent partner for every major political and social upheaval in our history, the press rarely covers itself. For instance, civil rights era news sharply affected the country’s attitudes. The same could be said of Vietnam era reporting. Yet for as large of a role as the press played, the number of stories on its own role were minimal.

So what?

That silent partnership between social advocacy and journalism attracts a particular person. Many reporters are not driven by a desire to write. Rather they have a need to effect change.

The other thing about journalism is it a very staid and old culture. While your life went from abacus to computerized, your local paper probably got stuck somewhere around lawn darts. The culture just won’t change…because there is was no critiquing. There was no outside force compelling change. There was only one set of eyes and they were looking out at the world, never introspectively.

Technological lethargy has beene even more damning than political bias. If newspapers were not so resistant to digital interactivity then their biases would have been revealed and corrected at a less-than-tragic pace. However now the press is dealing with the dual issues of rampant political posturing and incessant scrutinization of their work.

In the newsroom I worked at, I got into more than one argument about just how fast the decline would come. The paper was scrambling to do things like implement user message boards or multimedia presentations. Other reporters actually gave me dirty looks when I recorded an interview with my mp3 player. Their mouths dropped when I was able to transcribe key portions then offer them in mp3 format as a supplement to my article. The number of people who were actually new to email made me want to cry.

The Internets can be rascally. Web interactivity presents added scrutiny. But it also opens up untapped readers. It took most papers a decade to figure this out. The lagtime was mostly due to arrogance. That arrogance stemmed from that unspoken courtship of advocacy and reporting I referred to earlier.

A revolution is well under way and the mainstream press has taken a serious hit. But citizen journalism is not perfect. There are a lot of hacks out there.

It would be silly for us to write off traditional journalism. But we should continue to push for greater transparency, innovative business models and better journalism.

Blah-blah-yada-yada. I talk too much.

The Race Card on August 17, 2007 at 2:12 PM

Not to mention, she’s a pudgy little porker who apparently can’t push herself back from the food table when she’s full.

pabarge on August 17, 2007 at 2:33 PM

I listened to NPR this morning speculate on and on about what caused the recent credit crisis. They mentioned global warming, and even Iraq, among other things. But they never mentioned themsleves, the media, who have had a burning need every day for the past 6 years to convince us that the economy was going to hell, and who when they found the sub-prime issue, seemed to experience continuous round-the-clock orgasms. But that had no effect at all right?

drunyan8315 on August 17, 2007 at 2:37 PM

we can and should test every assumption, challenge each other’s thinking, ask the fundamental questions those in power hope we will overlook.

Silly me. I thought thye were supposed to report facts.,

Longhorn Six on August 17, 2007 at 2:38 PM

Here, every morning, some 20 smart, educated, well-read and diverse people gather around a table and talk

“smart, educated, well-read and diverse” that is code for liberal elites. How diverse can they be if all 20 of them contributed to Kerry 2004 and all went to Columbia School of Journalism? How smart too?

tommylotto on August 17, 2007 at 2:49 PM

The Race Card on August 17, 2007 at 2:12 PM

Blah-blah-yada-yada. I talk too much.

Enjoyed the read.

captivated_dem on August 17, 2007 at 2:51 PM

The Race Card on August 17, 2007 at 2:12 PM

Yep, you talk to much alright, but at least you told the unvarnished truth.

doriangrey on August 17, 2007 at 2:53 PM

tommylotto on August 17, 2007 at 2:49 PM

Being the excellent legal professional that you are I thought you knew better than to ask questions that you really don’t want to know the answers too.

doriangrey on August 17, 2007 at 2:56 PM

TRC – thanks, that was quite interesting. A couple of points:

– Straight sports reporting is largely apolitical, yeah. But sports opinion columns (IMO) tend suffer from the same sort of bias you see elsewhere. Selena Roberts of the NYT, Rick Reilly of SI, Roger Brown of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, etc. all come readily to mind as examples of the sort of soft-headed “everyone is a victim” mentality you can get pretty much anywhere else in the press.

As far as your comment about overwhelming bias and lack of objectivity, I agree with you – I think the larger problem is laziness. The supposed “layers and layers of fact-checking” don’t seem to work as intended, and it’s easier to ignore your skepticism when the thrust of the story fits your preconceived bias about the story (Rathergate, anyone?).

RyanOH on August 17, 2007 at 3:11 PM

But sports opinion columns (IMO) tend suffer from the same sort of bias you see elsewhere. Selena Roberts of the NYT, Rick Reilly of SI, Roger Brown of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, etc. all come readily to mind as examples of the sort of soft-headed “everyone is a victim” mentality you can get pretty much anywhere else in the press.

RyanOH on August 17, 2007 at 3:11 PM

Ryan, how could you leave out No-Talent liberal hack Mitch “Tuesdays with Morrie” Albom, from the Detroit Free Press? These days the sports pages and shows are just as full of whining liberals as any other section, which is a dramatic decline from days past.

Jaibones on August 17, 2007 at 3:15 PM

The Emperor’s New Clothes……imagine that.

HAAAAA!!!!…..perfect

The Ugly American on August 17, 2007 at 3:31 PM

Internet News Audience Highly Critical of News Organizations

The internet news audience – roughly a quarter of all Americans – tends to be younger and better educated than the public as a whole. People who rely on the internet as their main news source express relatively unfavorable opinions of mainstream news sources and are among the most critical of press performance.

The Ugly American on August 17, 2007 at 3:34 PM

Mitch “Tuesdays with Morrie” Albom,

Forgot completely about ol’ Mitch. Speaking of journalistic integrity:

Albom was suspended from the Detroit Free Press for prewriting and submitting an article about an event that didn’t occur.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitch_Albom

RyanOH on August 17, 2007 at 3:35 PM

Hmmmm…should’ve been a link there…

Internet News Audience Highly Critical of News Organizations

The Ugly American on August 17, 2007 at 3:36 PM

Here, every morning, some 20 smart, educated, well-read and diverse people gather around a table and talk

There are at least four errors in this short sentence alone. And I am assuming 20 of them talk around a table every morning and are people.

right2bright on August 17, 2007 at 3:43 PM

“elite effete snobs”, and Rove was being kind.
Their group-think reminds me of the Russian comic talking about Russia’s 2 television channels. Channel One is government broadcasting, and on Channel Two there’s a guy telling you to go back to Channel One.

Randy

williars on August 17, 2007 at 5:30 PM

RyanOH on August 17, 2007 at 3:11 PM

Jaibones on August 17, 2007 at 3:15 PM

Excellent points.

Can we please never mention Mitch Albom again? The lining in my stomach can only take so much.

The Race Card on August 17, 2007 at 6:06 PM

Exit question: Why not just cop to the bias so that you can cheer all you want?

Back in line prole !!! Introspective twaddle by serious news types is serious news…

And still passionate. I just need to choose my spots.

Nicole Brodeur

Sad but predictable… she has learned nothing…

elgeneralisimo on August 17, 2007 at 6:17 PM

Exit question: Why not just cop to the bias so that you can cheer all you want?

Because they don’t see it as bias, they see it as virtue. Like when KO says he might lean, like, a little left, maybe.

BadgerHawk on August 17, 2007 at 7:32 PM

Michelle Malkin is to the news media as Bob Vila was to the construction industry. Based on that sentence then Hot Air is the equivalent of Home Depot. The much cherished exclusivity once enjoyed by many trade guilds has been exposed to the general public. I have survived by specializing in a franchised product. I provide a legitimate service that has bona fide benifits to my customers. Its a win win situation. Mabey if the left biased MSM would get honest they could thrive in an increasingly more competitive market.

sonnyspats1 on August 18, 2007 at 3:31 AM

bloggers’ scrawl

yahoo with a camera and an open mike

‘Open Mike’ sounds like good journalism to me

Aren’t yahoos allowed to participate in journalism? What was that item in the Bill of Rights?

the 15 seconds you’ll give them before moving on to the next hot spot

How disgusting. What is our time requirement to qualify as good consumers of the news?

That’s not how we do things at this newspaper.

I believe that

Here, every morning, some 20 smart, educated, well-read and diverse people

Unlike the yahoos, we the non-yahoos are ’smart, educated, well-read and diverse’.

1. if you are all ’smart, educated, well-read’ how are you ‘diverse’?

2. If you are all ’smart’ why do you think (1) is true?

3. If you are all ‘well-read’, why do you not read the yahoos?

4. If you are all ‘educated’, that is, if the yahoos therefore are uneducated, how come they are better able to communicate with the unwashed who prefer the obsolete net to more modern ’smart, educated, well-read and diverse’ authentic journalists who frequent the right coffee bars, I mean, who gather together every morning to re-affirm their right to protect the flow of information from the yahoos

entagor on August 18, 2007 at 11:52 AM

entagor, well said.

georgej on August 18, 2007 at 4:32 PM

Dear Nicloe:
Georgej on August 17,2007 at 12:39PM.

You covered it nicely,not much to add.
I wish we could get a daily segment,15 min,say
on Glen Becks show ,showing a same day video montage
of these liberal bias’s.
Like Newsbuster’s,but only done video style.

canopfor on August 18, 2007 at 10:41 PM

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