If you’ve only read TNR on this story, you still don’t know that the Army has concluded their investigation and that they’ve found the stories to be false. The truth of it aside for the moment, TNR still hasn’t so much as mentioned the Army’s position or the fact that they’ve taken one or that they’ve issued any statement on the matter.

You might not know about “Broken Glass,” how one of their writers spent years deliberately falsifying stories until he was caught and canned. So they have a history and a reputation of TELLING LIES in their magazine.

And you also might not know how TNR openly derided the reports of Pol Pot’s genocide in Cambodia. TNR was an apologist for Pot and his genocide.

All of which means that TNR LIES to advance leftwing ideas, such as trashing our military.

The answer (to quote Ann Coulter), liberals are “savagely cruel bigots who hate ordinary Americans and lie for sport.”

The only difference between Beinart and the nutroots like Kos and Firedoglake is that Beinart smiles, talks quietly, refrains from profanity, and presents his biased logic more elegantly. He is a despicable person.

Did you post at thier website?

Pablo on August 16, 2007 at 12:03 PM

What you said.

Strike Two – The Army’s own investigation concluded that Scott Beauchamp’s claims were false and Scott Beauchamp himself signed a written confession saying his claims were false.

Strike Three – TNR to this day still stands by Scott Beauchamp’s claims.

Frickin COWARDS.

the rational readership goes elsewhere.

Wait! You think TNR has rational readers? WOW!! Now THAT’S news!

Beinart even runs off into “it could have happened” territory a few minutes in …

Only if you click your heels three times.

Pablo on August 16, 2007 at 12:16 PM

True. TNR has been so dishonest and shameful that they have passed the point of no return. To admit guilt is to admit that they are no more newsworthy and no more relevant then the National Inquirer. In fact, the only thing that seperates the two “news” organizations is that one of them has a severe left wing/anti-military bias. For this reason TNR is going to fight this until the very end and their strategy is going to be ignore, ignore, ignore, deny, deny, deny.

“I don’t want to get into the specifics and stuff”.

As Homer would say….DOH!!!!

People want the world to be a certain way. When it’s not, particularly in a scary way, lying is the least of the offenses people have committed to try to bring the world in line with their ideas.

After all, the Larger War is precisely about a group of people who “want the world to be a certain way” and are willing to blow up cafes and school buses full of innocent people to try to make it that way.

See, it’s an ideological thing, not an accuracy in reporting issue.

If non-left press weren’t pretty much restricted to th blogosphere (evenly split at best) and radio (the medium of ideas sans pictures favors coherent ideas), TNR would have been eaten alive by this point.

If AP and Al Reuters and NYT and CNN were half as objective as they claim, they would have been all over this.

They aren’t, they weren’t.

All investigations are based on assumptions. Assumptions to be checked, of course, but nonetheless. Given STB’s rather blatant prior statements that his career is essentially a false-flag operation, assuming that he’s telling the truth now is a little crazy.

“Why would they lie?”

Niko on August 16, 2007 at 11:43 AM

Yeah, its a good question though. I like to pose the same one to Michael Moore fans. If he/they really believe the crap that they are spewing then why is it that they NEED to lie so often in order to make their points? Does it not occur to them that if their cause was righteous they would have no NEED to lie in order to make their points?

When I’m reading Bryan’s post above, its obvious to me that, because he is on the right side of this, he does not NEED to lie to us in order to make his point. He does not NEED to leave a piece of the puzzle out here or there. He does not NEED to exagerrate. He does not NEED to take people’s words out of context.

What I really find fascinating is how in the heck can anybody find themselves on the wrong side of these issues considering the great/honest work that people like Bryan are doing here.

If’n’ you care. I’m about halfway through. I’ll digest the main points — if there are any — when it’s done. Not Worth It. Bryan at Hot Air will post on it in a couple of minutes. Save your time……

“Um…. uhhh… Ummm… Uhhh… Um uh hummm… Um… uhhhh… Ummmm…”