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Funny how you disqualify one guy because of a red pick up, but not a flip flopper.

Oh yeah, not a flp flopper, he was trying to get the liberal vote. Then maybe he was a “vote whore”.

Logis, although csdeven, er, feels strongly about Thompson’s candidacy I wouldn’t characterize him as a crackpot.

Technically, when someone feels strongly enough about something, that’s called a “pathological obsession.” And when someone who spends several hours a day repeating himself doesn’t realize or – even worse – stringently denies that he HAS the obsession in the first place, that’s called “delusional.”

Knowing the definitions of words doesn’t make me “screechy”; “characterizing” obviously inapplicable words by putting them in italics doesn’t make you a team player; and occasionally saying things that aren’t overtly asinine doesn’t magically make CS rational.

Otherwise, though, good point.

Of course 99% of the people here think he’s a crackpot, but the people inside his head all agree with him about everything he ever says – even the statements that directly contradict each other.

As far as he’s concerned, he’s making perfect sense and it’s EVERYONE ELSE who’s crazy.

logis on August 17, 2007 at 11:23 AM

Logis, although csdeven, er, feels strongly about Thompson’s candidacy I wouldn’t characterize him as a crackpot. He’s a very solid conservative in most areas – use Google to go back over the last year of his comments and I think you’ll agree. And yes, csdeven has gotten embarrassingly screechy about this topic, but why go there yourself? At the end of the day, we’ll all still (hopefully) be on the same “team.”

The interesting thing is that, if this is true, both Mitt! and fred? have basically the same position on abortion. So, I look forward to the fred?heads to abandon that argument against Mitt!, and try to show fred? as more qualified in different areas.

Two differences I see….

First…..

Mitt! politics his positions to get dems to vote for him.

fred? politics his positions to fool conservatives into supporting him. IE his fake red pickup truck, blue jeans, and flannel shirts.

2nd……

Mitt! has TONS of executive experience and a history as a Washington outsider.

freddie boy has zero, nil, nada, none, NO executive experience and he is the consummate Washington insider as an arm-twisting lobbyist who ALWAYS picked clients who had the big bucks verses the American citizen who wanted his rights protected. IE, he lobbied against asbestos poisoning victims and lobbied for a dictator.

Tsk, tsk, tsk.

Like most of us, hope fred? is the real deal … We are waiting for him to grow a pair and announce so we can get him into a hostile environment so we can see how deeply he understands the issues and if he is able to think on his feet.
csdeven on August 17, 2007 at 8:03 AM

Are you saying your mind is not already made up wrt Fred? Because if so, I find that pretty hard to believe.
Laura on August 17, 2007 at 9:54 AM

Sure. The guy makes literally DOZENS of posts a day saying that he hates Fred Thompson more than life itself, but he’s perfectly capable of being unbiased on the issue.

As patently crazy as that sounds, it makes perfect sense TO HIM. I mean if he were making an attempt at something like humor we would have figured it out a thousand posts ago, right? So that can’t be it. Nope; he’s trying to be completely serious, and even honest, about every word he types.

You just have to understand what the word “we” means when somebody like this uses it. Of course 99% of the people here think he’s a crackpot, but the people inside his head all agree with him about everything he ever says – even the statements that directly contradict each other.

As far as he’s concerned, he’s making perfect sense and it’s EVERYONE ELSE who’s crazy.

Are you saying your mind is not already made up wrt Fred? Because if so, I find that pretty hard to believe.
Laura on August 17, 2007 at 9:54 AM

Well, I feel fred? is the least qualified candidate or non-candidate. (that includes ron paul) BUT, I will vote in the primary for the candidate that polls best against the dem front runner. That includes fred?.

Big S on August 16, 2007 at 10:45 PM

Quite reasonable. Speaking only for myself, I see a RINO as someone who may advocate Republican values come election time or other opportune times, yet caves on taxes/spending, creating new & useless agencies,etc.

McCain is a great example of a fiscal wrangler- a pet cause of his has always been controlling runaway bureaucracy. Yet lousy on CFR and several other issues, which are, at heart, big-govt. I would *tend* to push him more into the RINO camp simply because I don’t always trust him.

Lieberman is quite the opposite case , but as the most important issue of our time is the War effort, I cannot discount him [nor McCain in this instance] despite numerous other stances.

So the issue is how to define RINO, small-govt types,etc. Its perhaps not as easy as it sounds.

Prioritize, prioritize, prioritize.

Like most of us, hope fred? is the real deal … We are waiting for him to grow a pair and announce so we can get him into a hostile environment so we can see how deeply he understands the issues and if he is able to think on his feet.

csdeven on August 17, 2007 at 8:03 AM

Are you saying your mind is not already made up wrt Fred? Because if so, I find that pretty hard to believe.

csdeven on August 17, 2007 at 8:03 AM

Groupies: Complete idiots who, among other things, believe fred? doesn’t act in his TV shows. He just shows up and acts as he would in real life.

There you go again. Calling people who do not agree with you ‘idiots’. This must not apply to me because I am not an idiot and it was my point in my first posting.

fred?heads: Refuse to accept any criticism of fred? but will point out the same flaws in other candidates.

This must not apply to me because I have not refused to accept your criticism against anyone. That is not the point. The point is that you are calling all of us who support Fred! idiots.

So when you defend his use of his red pickup whose sole purpose was to present himself as something he certainly is not, you are in denial.

This does not apply to me because I didn’t ‘defend’ his use of a red pickup. I merely asked what a ‘fake red pickup’ is. If you think that is defending it then you should take a look in the mirror.

Texas Nick 77 on August 17, 2007 at 8:23 AM

There’s a war on. The socialists and barbarians are inside the gates. But ur cool.

csdeven on August 17, 2007 at 8:03 AM

Only three types of Fred supporters? I offer myself as a fourth type (assuming I am not unique):

1) Never have sent any money to any politician.
2) Content to wait and see what choices I have in the primaries.
3) At the most, put a bumper sticker on my vehicle (usually a red pickup).
4) Vote for the candidate that I feel represents my best interests.

At the moment, I see two Rino’s in front, a former Southern governor in third (who does not appeal to me that much, and that probably would not do well in the general election against HER), and Ol’ Fred. Whom will get my vote next year (BTW, all the primaries and the general election are next year, so Fred does have some time left before he commits)? Whoever gets the Republican nomination.

Is he a pitt bull?

OBX Pete on August 17, 2007 at 4:25 AM

You need to understand that I have identified three different types of fred? supporters. When you responded to my comment I assume you are the type of supporter i was criticizing. Perhaps you are not, perhaps you are, but let me described the difference between the three.

Groupies: Complete idiots who, among other things, believe fred? doesn’t act in his TV shows. He just shows up and acts as he would in real life.

fred?heads: Refuse to accept any criticism of fred? but will ponit out the same flaws in other candidates.

Lastly the regular fred? supporter: Like most of us, hope fred? is the real deal, but have serious questions about his red pickup, support for CFR, ethics, and his lobbying history. We are waiting for him to grow a pair and announce so we can get him into a hostile environment so we can see how deeply he understands the issues and if he is able to think on his feet.

So when you defend his use of his red pickup whose sole purpose was to present himself as something he certainly is not, you are in denial.

That’s the point ain’t it? You fred?ites can’t see what a lying fake he is.

Your point seems to be that all of us who support Fred!!! are dumb and stupid and you aren’t. Also, please tell me what lies I have lapped up. You don’t know what I believe or don’t believe about the man. I am not going to change my support for him and you are not going to change your vitriolic attacks on him. So be it – but you really should quit inferring that all who support him are somehow less brilliant than you.

OBX Pete on August 17, 2007 at 2:56 AM

That’s the point ain’t it? You fred?ites can’t see what a lying fake he is. You think his pickup was a real representation of “old fred?”. hahaha! fred? is the epitome of the washington insider and you fred?heads lap up his lies to the contrary.

He used a fake red pickup to fool his supporters

csdeven on August 17, 2007 at 1:18 AM

What the hell is a ‘fake’ red pickup?
Is it not red?
Is it not a pickup?
Does it have no engine?
Does it have no wheels?

It’s late CS – maybe you should go to bed now and get a little rest. You have another long day coming up to bash my man (actually THE man) FRED!!!!!!

Endless. Broken. Record. Emphasis appropriately on the broken.

//snooze

The guy has already funneled funds meant for his senatorial campaign to his son and I see no reason to doubt that he could very well do the same thing with the $3.4 mil he has already raised.

He used a fake red pickup to fool his supporters and he takes credit for a speech Reagan gave. He actually believes his own hype and worse yet, so do the groupies. They actually fred? just has to show up on the set of his TV show and simply act natural!! How moronic can you get?

All things being equal, the groupies still prefer the lying fake fred? that has no executive experience over a candidate who has basically the same conservative stances, but has tons more executive experience.

$3.4 mil to his family.

There, that should take care of your postings for friday, have a nice weekend.

right2bright on August 17, 2007 at 12:52 AM

Heh.

I’m still not seeing anything better than Fred! out there. And I’ll bet I’m not the only one.

Contributions are down for the GOP candidates compared to the dems right now. Wonder why that is? Could be that there’s a lot of $$$ sitting on the sidelines waiting for Fred! to make it official? I’m in that particular boat myself.

But I’m not impatient, as many here appear to be. It’s early and very few of us are actually paying any attention at all to politics. Frankly I think the Average American is sick of politics.