Fred stuns Beltway with bold agenda of … basic conservative positions
posted at 4:11 pm on August 16, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Well, pre-Bush conservatism, I should say. Bigger military, more effective domestic intelligence, fewer entitlements, tax reform: David Broder thinks it’s a bombshell and Jim Geraghty’s genuinely flabbergasted, although that may be because he seems to think Fred’s hinting at raising taxes and I don’t. He has made some noise about the Fair Tax, but so have five other candidates including conservative stalwart Duncan Hunter so he’s not exactly out on a limb.
The one potential grenade is his criticism of Medicare but he can finesse that as the campaign rolls on before the AARP asks to have a word with him. For now it’s just smart politics, especially with the health-care battle looming: it’s a cautionary tale of government bloat and it’s Bush-backed, so Fred gets to kill two ugly birds with one stone.
Seriously, am I missing something about why this is big news? Also, doesn’t Fred have more immediate problems?
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Are you saying your mind is not already made up wrt Fred? Because if so, I find that pretty hard to believe.
Laura on August 17, 2007 at 9:54 AM
Quite reasonable. Speaking only for myself, I see a RINO as someone who may advocate Republican values come election time or other opportune times, yet caves on taxes/spending, creating new & useless agencies,etc.
McCain is a great example of a fiscal wrangler- a pet cause of his has always been controlling runaway bureaucracy. Yet lousy on CFR and several other issues, which are, at heart, big-govt. I would *tend* to push him more into the RINO camp simply because I don’t always trust him.
Lieberman is quite the opposite case , but as the most important issue of our time is the War effort, I cannot discount him [nor McCain in this instance] despite numerous other stances.
So the issue is how to define RINO, small-govt types,etc. Its perhaps not as easy as it sounds.
Prioritize, prioritize, prioritize.
cadetwithchips2 on August 17, 2007 at 11:06 AM
clarification: *tend* = see paragraph below
cadetwithchips2 on August 17, 2007 at 11:07 AM
Well, I feel fred? is the least qualified candidate or non-candidate. (that includes ron paul) BUT, I will vote in the primary for the candidate that polls best against the dem front runner. That includes fred?.
csdeven on August 17, 2007 at 11:12 AM
Sure. The guy makes literally DOZENS of posts a day saying that he hates Fred Thompson more than life itself, but he’s perfectly capable of being unbiased on the issue.
As patently crazy as that sounds, it makes perfect sense TO HIM. I mean if he were making an attempt at something like humor we would have figured it out a thousand posts ago, right? So that can’t be it. Nope; he’s trying to be completely serious, and even honest, about every word he types.
You just have to understand what the word “we” means when somebody like this uses it. Of course 99% of the people here think he’s a crackpot, but the people inside his head all agree with him about everything he ever says – even the statements that directly contradict each other.
As far as he’s concerned, he’s making perfect sense and it’s EVERYONE ELSE who’s crazy.
logis on August 17, 2007 at 11:23 AM
Here is a half-a$$ed tongue bath artical on fred? from ABC. (surprise, surprise. doesn’t fred? work for them?)
The interesting thing is that, if this is true, both Mitt! and fred? have basically the same position on abortion. So, I look forward to the fred?heads to abandon that argument against Mitt!, and try to show fred? as more qualified in different areas.
Two differences I see….
First…..
Mitt! politics his positions to get dems to vote for him.
fred? politics his positions to fool conservatives into supporting him. IE his fake red pickup truck, blue jeans, and flannel shirts.
2nd……
Mitt! has TONS of executive experience and a history as a Washington outsider.
freddie boy has zero, nil, nada, none, NO executive experience and he is the consummate Washington insider as an arm-twisting lobbyist who ALWAYS picked clients who had the big bucks verses the American citizen who wanted his rights protected. IE, he lobbied against asbestos poisoning victims and lobbied for a dictator.
Tsk, tsk, tsk.
csdeven on August 17, 2007 at 11:26 AM
Logis, although csdeven, er, feels strongly about Thompson’s candidacy I wouldn’t characterize him as a crackpot. He’s a very solid conservative in most areas – use Google to go back over the last year of his comments and I think you’ll agree. And yes, csdeven has gotten embarrassingly screechy about this topic, but why go there yourself? At the end of the day, we’ll all still (hopefully) be on the same “team.”
Laura on August 17, 2007 at 11:41 AM
Technically, when someone feels strongly enough about something, that’s called a “pathological obsession.” And when someone who spends several hours a day repeating himself doesn’t realize or – even worse – stringently denies that he HAS the obsession in the first place, that’s called “delusional.”
Knowing the definitions of words doesn’t make me “screechy”; “characterizing” obviously inapplicable words by putting them in italics doesn’t make you a team player; and occasionally saying things that aren’t overtly asinine doesn’t magically make CS rational.
Otherwise, though, good point.
logis on August 17, 2007 at 12:15 PM
Actually it’s not because Cs isn’t rational or even conservative, he just has a different favorite who he sees as a better choice I just find it hard to read his posts because of all the ?’s. They get annoying.
Rose on August 17, 2007 at 12:26 PM
Reagan had tons of executive experience befor running for…oh, he was never an executive? He was a democrat at one time…he didn’t drive a red pick up did he?
Funny how you disqualify one guy because of a red pick up, but not a flip flopper.
Oh yeah, not a flp flopper, he was trying to get the liberal vote. Then maybe he was a “vote whore”.
right2bright on August 17, 2007 at 4:13 PM
Oops, I just dissed Mitt, that makes me stupid, a Fred groupie, an idiot, unread, and probaby a pagan that sacrifices goats at the alter of Fred.
right2bright on August 17, 2007 at 4:15 PM
While Fred? is still trying to decide wether to run or not, Mitt! is raking in the $$$. HA! HA! HA! Keep up the good work Fred.
calirighty on August 17, 2007 at 5:04 PM
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