You can do an iplookup to find out who owns an ip address. Try this: http://tools.whois.net/whoisbyip/

Gianni on August 16, 2007 at 6:57 AM

Awesome, thanks Gianni!

Eventually there will be a Counter-Wiki.

Infinite regress, ho!

(And that’s “ho!” as in “wagon train”, not “nappy headed“.)

Off to write Wiki article on the subtle semiotic connections between the subconscious iconography of the western-flavored (“Gilligan’s Island” clone) “Dusty’s Trail” and the Nazi-connections of the Bush family patriarch, Prescott.

Why not?

Wiki’s useful only for trivia. Nothing serious.

Because nothing serious allows their brand of intellectual chaos.

Did Harry Read really have a tail as a infant?

Why not?

Let me get this straight: you mean I could go to the entry on the Chicago Cubs and edit to say they’ve won ten World Series titles the past fiftenn years? Count me in!

Why not? A friend of mine edited the New England Patriots page to say he was the coach…

For starters:

Fox News Republicans remove all Fox controversies
by Anonymous

After listing the various controversies from Fox, from the lawsuit where they filed to the court that they had the right to lie the entire Fox article had almost all controversies shoved and hidden away in to a separate article thus leaving a nicely sterilized faux article behind.

This is the only one I’ve clicked so far that doesn’t show “current” and “old/edited” versions, therefore I see no evidence that anyone at Fox edited the pages. The link they provide is as follows:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News_Channel

What am I missing? Did some loony lefty totally make up a scandal here, because they couldn’t find one?

Here’s one:

Republicans trying to re-write history of Iraq War?
by Scribe

Republican Party changes the “Post-Saddam” section of the Baath Party article to a different account of the war, changing the language from “US-led occupation” to “US-led liberation.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Baath%20Party&oldid=25375910#Post-Saddam

Is this really “re-writing history”?

Post-Saddam

In June 2003, after the US-led invasion of Iraq, the occupying or “liberating” forces in Iraq banned the Ba’th party. Some criticize the additional step the US took — of banning all members of the Ba’th party from the new government, as well as from public schools and colleges — as blocking too many skilled people from participation in the new government, as well as being in contravention of basic human rights. Many teachers lost their jobs, causing protests and demonstrations at schools and universities. Under the previous rule of the Ba’ath party, one could not reach high positions in the government or in the schools without becoming a party member. Now, however, one cannot reach such positions at all if one has previously been a Ba’ath party member.

Post-Saddam

In June 2003, the US-led liberating forces in Iraq banned the Ba’th party. Some criticize the additional step the US took — of banning all members of the Ba’th party from the new government, as well as from public schools and colleges — as blocking too many skilled people from participation in the new government. Several teachers have lost their jobs, causing protests and demonstrations at schools and universities. Under the previous rule of the Ba’ath party, one could not reach high positions in the government or in the schools without becoming a party member.

It’s barely changed, and what was is almost completely irrelevant!

focus on the family edits
by Anonymous

here they pretty much erase all reference, biased though it might be, to their being part of the christian right.

Is this really a “get”? Some douche write biased opinions on Focus on the Family, someone there removes the comments… and they’re busted somehow? And the biased opinions are put back in!?

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=14645111

Again, can anyone tell me how folks are determining where IPs originate from? Like if I took an IP and gave it to you, how would you determine where it came from, be it Fox News or the New York Times, whatever?

I guess I need to rephrase my question… I see the IPs of the folks who made the specific edits. I just want to know how it was determined that a given IP address is one at the UN, or at Fox News, etc.

Of course in the case of Fallaci, you wouldn’t condemn the whole UN (there are plenty of other reasons to do that – oil for food, raping thousands of children worldwide with our tax dollars, etc.) But in other cases it might be necessary to point things out. I’m trying to remember if it was in the Adnan Hajj situation where Reuters people (caught by IP number) were leaving threatening messages on someone’s blog. It may have been a different story, I can’t remember off the top.

RightWinged on August 15, 2007 at 9:24 PM

William… just so you know wasn’t trying to be rude… I enjoy your lil niggets of info, I just hate doing anything twice. I reread this page just now and thought I sounded like an @$$… keep up the good work.

Kaptain Amerika on August 15, 2007 at 11:10 PM

nope I saw it as a valid question and isnt a problem. In fact I probably drive Allah and other here crazy with all the stuff I email them. And then come onto the blog to drive them even more crazy.

For that I thank Michelle and Allah and Bryan for allowing me to do that and creating such a great blog. Im sure almost everyone else agrees

Someone at Fox apparently did something to the Al Franken entry, but that one’s understandable given the history of bickering that Al started with them.

The New York Times – good people.

For what it’s worth, I don’t care that you posted something twice. I didn’t see it the first time and it was on topic. Maybe you could keep your detractors happy by noting that you had already posted it.

Nonfactor,

Your point is?

Buy Danish on August 15, 2007 at 10:21 PM

I thought Wikipedia was run by “moonbats”?

Last January I happened to look up Kirsten Powers on Wiki and found all sorts of edits from the Left side of the aisle. I took screen shots – here are some excerpts:

On 1/29/07 it said this -

Kirsten A. Powers is a lapdog…Powers is a joke of a political analyst on Fox News…They must be paying her oodles for her to agree so obsequiously with BillO and his minions.

Also on 1/29 at a different hour of the day it said this -

Since 2004 Powers has been a commentator on political issues from a fake Democratic perspective for Fox News…If Powers is a Democrat, then the party has certainly lost its soul.

On 1/30 it said this -

Kirsten A. Powers is a prominent American columnist…A prominent columnist? Who wrote this stuff? Kirsten? Her mother? Her boyfriend? She’s prominent only in the figment of Fox News’imagination. Let’s face it. She was hired for looks and for providing the kid of balance Fox likes: Far right balanced by less right. For example it was a shameful display on BOR’s show, Jan 29, 2007, when she agreed that the tens of thousands of ordinary Americans who demonstrated in DC against the war were “far-left loons”…

It has been scrubbed clean now and really doesn’t say much of anything. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirsten_Powers
I kind of liked it better when the Moonbats were sabotaging her page because it is so obvious and makes them look ridiculous.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D_James_Kennedy#Notable_issues_and_views

He doesn’t, however, and the only reason that it says he is is because a group of liberal Wiki users ganged up and prevented any opposition to the claim from being considered. They based the addition on what some evolutionist kook said in a trial (and was subsequently posted by Barry Lynn’s AU website) and a couple of books (out of hundreds) that Kennedy’s Coral Ridge Ministries website sells.

here

Also, I wouldn’t read much into any of these edits. Anyone at that IP could do it; so trying to say “the UN thinks Fallaci” is a racist whore isn’t a logical argument to make anyways. Someone at the UN thinks she is; but to extrapolate that to the entire UN is weak, at best.

lorien1973 on August 15, 2007 at 6:20 PM

A CalTech graduate recently created a program to track the IP addresses of people who edit wikipedia. Every organization from the CIA to Fox News.

Nonfactor on August 15, 2007 at 7:30 PM

I guess I need to rephrase my question… I see the IPs of the folks who made the specific edits. I just want to know how it was determined that a given IP address is one at the UN, or at Fox News, etc.

Of course in the case of Fallaci, you wouldn’t condemn the whole UN (there are plenty of other reasons to do that – oil for food, raping thousands of children worldwide with our tax dollars, etc.) But in other cases it might be necessary to point things out. I’m trying to remember if it was in the Adnan Hajj situation where Reuters people (caught by IP number) were leaving threatening messages on someone’s blog. It may have been a different story, I can’t remember off the top.

William are you stuck on that post dood you posted it yesterday on the other thread! ever heard the term repost?

Kaptain Amerika on August 15, 2007 at 7:52 PM

Well true I did post it yesterday. But with all the new posts made not sure others saw it. Will stick with original stuff then

????

Furthermore, in 2005, Senator Coburn was voted the most annoying Senator by his peers in Congress. This was due to Senator Coburn being a huge douche-bag. In the August edition of Roll Call, the senator was voted “most likely to get his arse kicked by hill a hill staffer over recess”. He gladly accepted this honor saying “I completely expect to get my arse kicked because I suck at life”.

RightWinged on August 15, 2007 at 6:00 PM

A CalTech graduate recently created a program to track the IP addresses of people who edit wikipedia. Every organization from the CIA to Fox News.