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Video: Hannity clashes with Geraldo over Newark illegal alien suspect

posted at 10:42 pm on August 15, 2007 by Allahpundit
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The full segment ran upwards of 15 minutes. I pared it down here to a cool five, being careful to include Geraldo’s immortal malaprop at Kimberly Guilfoyle’s expense. You’ll know it when you hear it. Oh, and he also coins a new word. You’ll know that when you hear it, too.

Second verse, same as the first: it’s not an illegal immigration issue, saith the mustache, it’s an issue of judicial incompetence in letting Carranza out on bail after he was charged with child rape. But wait — what about the fact that he could have been deported had the feds known about that earlier indictment, which they didn’t thanks to Newark’s sanctuary city policy? Wouldn’t that mean the three kids in Newark would still be alive? Hannity’s co-host fields that one: sure, but then he would have been loose on the streets of Peru instead of on the streets of New Jersey and we should have no preference between those two options. In other words, because the judge didn’t do his job on bail, ICE shouldn’t do its job with respect to deportation lest we end up exporting “our” problem, which of course really isn’t our problem at all. And that in turn means this really isn’t “about” immigration. Got that?

The punchline is that most cases involving criminal illegal aliens don’t turn on judicial incompetence. The FUBAR bail ruling is Geraldo’s very convenient “out” here; revisit Patterico’s “Deport the Criminals First” post and note how many of them were in for DUI and did their time, in full accordance with the law, only to kill when they got out. So far as I know, Geraldo doesn’t want DUIs to be deportable offenses at all. In fact, the most he’ll concede (at the beginning of the clip) is that illegal status should be a factor in setting bail. Which actually makes no sense — if there’s nothing wrong with being “undocumented,” why hold it against the defendant with respect to bail but not with respect to deportability? — but it’s his nod at being “tough” on a guy who stands accused of raping toddlers and shooting teenagers in the head. And so the question remains: What if Carranza had been in for drunk driving and been bailed out per proper procedures? Where’s your judicial incompetence excuse then?

Pathetic. And the most pathetic part is that Geraldo’s not even the one who comes off looking the most foolish here.

Update: Notice how no one, not even Hannity, pauses to reflect that if the immigration laws were being enforced, Carranza wouldn’t have been here to commit the initial child-rape offense either. (Assuming that he did commit it, that is; he’s only been indicted so far.) They’re all writing off child molestation as a free-bite-at-the-apple kind of thing, even though but for his presence in the U.S. it never would have happened. That sort of makes this “about” immigration, does it not?

Update: Here’s an idea for tomorrow night’s H&C. Invite the relatives of the three dead kids in Newark down to the set and have Kirsten explain to them why we should have no preference as to whether this degenerate was released onto the streets of New Jersey versus the streets of Peru.

Update: Debbie Schlussel catches something I totally missed. With about 10 seconds left in the clip, Powers refers to illegal aliens as … “law-abiding citizens.” Check, please.


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If you turn the sound off KP is still hot.

drjohn on August 16, 2007 at 1:15 PM

What happened to my comment?

onebill1 on August 16, 2007 at 2:51 PM

This man is quite beautiful. The camera does not do him justice. He radiates kindness, poise, and authenticity, and physically, he just…glitters.
RushBaby on August 16, 2007 at 9:41 AM

All that glitters, is not gold.

He may be all that to you, but he needs to learn to debate. He needs to be a little more humble, and go to the people he often steals information from, give them credit and ask them for help in debating. Debbie Schlussel is one that most comes to mind…talk about glitter.

right2bright on August 16, 2007 at 3:36 PM

Schlussel’s thievery charge is as valid as if I started saying every blog that covered Latino hate crimes against Blacks were stealing from me because I “covered it first.” It’s impossible for anyone, the mighty Schulssel included, to know if a story their working on has been or is being covered eslewhere, including by Hannity. I’m not a fan, but given Debbies track record on blowing things way out of proportion, I’d take Hannity’s word over hers.

On the other hand maybe he’s just doesn’t want to be associated with her, so doesn’t site her blog o’ crazy. I know I’ve stopped sourcing her, I get enough hate mail as it is…

Rob Taylor on August 16, 2007 at 3:58 PM

Geraldo is a fool, and he should be deported to San Francisco.

saiga on August 16, 2007 at 4:23 PM

That fool Geraldo is on Gibson’s big story.

He relates how his dad prayed, that when there was a horrific crime, the person was not Puerto Rican. Geraldo feels the same way about the illegals. He prays they aren’t illegals so he doesn’t have to face Gibson, Bill, Sean, et al.

Meaning…..the entire issue is because we are all racists.

csdeven on August 16, 2007 at 5:16 PM

The “gang-banging” gaffe was laughable.

Black Adam on August 16, 2007 at 6:06 PM

thedecider on August 16, 2007 at 12:38 AM

Like Canada is ever going to become the land of opportunity. You are hilarious!

Wingo on August 16, 2007 at 7:34 PM

nationspatriotcom on August 16, 2007 at 12:43 PM

The term “criminal illegals” is used by those who do not understand the consequences language has in shaping an issue.

The same people who thought it was a good idea to publicly call a very common sense action the “nuclear option” are the same people who think “criminal illegals” is a good idea….its also why we constantly, year after year, fail to bring popular culture closer to the other side.

Feel free to feel smart about shooting yourself in the foot if you must though…

DwnSouthJukin on August 16, 2007 at 7:58 PM

Schlussel’s thievery charge is as valid as if I started saying every blog that covered Latino hate crimes against Blacks were stealing from me because I “covered it first.” It’s impossible for anyone, the mighty Schulssel included, to know if a story their working on has been or is being covered eslewhere, including by Hannity. I’m not a fan, but given Debbies track record on blowing things way out of proportion, I’d take Hannity’s word over hers.

On the other hand maybe he’s just doesn’t want to be associated with her, so doesn’t site her blog o’ crazy. I know I’ve stopped sourcing her, I get enough hate mail as it is…

Rob Taylor on August 16, 2007 at 3:58 PM

Not sure how this video clip has now turned into someone’s (yours, Rob) with me. That’s what’s really “o’crazy.”

But, Rob, you need to go back and review what plagiarism is. Your failed analogy is completely invalid. Maybe this is why I never heard of you and why you cannot understand what it’s like to be stolen from–I doubt anyone has every ripped off from your writing. And we can see why.

Hannity stole my original exclusive work and reporting. Only I reported that the imam was at Hezbollah rallies and supported Hezbollah, b/c only I went undercover and saw it. Ripping me off on that–and READING MY COLUMN WORD-FOR-WORD, which broke the story of the Muslim footbaths at U-M Dearborn, and passing it off as his own work–is plagiarism, period. It makes no difference if you, who hasn’t a clue, doesn’t believe it, like it makes no difference if you don’t believe that Rosie O’Donnell is overweight and a lesbian. It is what it is, and facts are stubborn things.

FYI, if Sean doesn’t want to be associated with me, then why did he repeatedly have me on his radio and TV show, until I called him on ripping off my work, etc.? If my work is not good enough for him and is “blown out of proportion” as you cluelessly claim, why quote it and rip it off? Frankly, it is me who does NOT want to be associated with that thief. Why do you think Rush Limbaugh started installing audio watermarks on soundbites he runs on his show? Guess which syndicated ABC radio host was ripping them off and saying the same thing as him, right after Rush’s show ended and his show began for the day?

I can understand why you–whose work has likely never been ripped off (gee, I wonder why)–cannot understand what it’s like to be stolen from. So, maybe you will let me help myself to all of your property and your bank account because, hey, you blow everything out of proportion (with you that accusation actually must be true based on your completely ignorant, wildly false comment, though I’ve never heard of you). Still trying to figure out how a clip of an inept FOX News co-host who let Geraldo and KP run all over him, unchallenged, about illegal aliens, has turned into an insult-fest against me.

Debbie Schlussel on August 16, 2007 at 10:47 PM

The term “criminal illegals” is used by those who do not understand the consequences language has in shaping an issue.

The same people who thought it was a good idea to publicly call a very common sense action the “nuclear option” are the same people who think “criminal illegals” is a good idea….its also why we constantly, year after year, fail to bring popular culture closer to the other side.

Feel free to feel smart about shooting yourself in the foot if you must though…

DwnSouthJukin on August 16, 2007 at 7:58 PM

BLAM! *OWWW!*

Okay, here goes: the above-stricken paragraph is an ill comparison to justify your soap-box view of the world. We’re not debating “the nuclear option” here, so the analogy is tired and poorly used.

Further, you don’t go as far as to describe or explain how, even to my whittle, shot-myself-in-da-foot, smartypants self;

A) the consequences involved in such language shaping the issue (in relation to the terminology, and
B) Why you’d assume I’m one of those people in the argument you witlessly loft me into.. which I’m not.. and attempt to divert the subject with a poor analogy and you still don’t give an example of what “bringing popular culture to the other side [year after year]” means.

Then again, maybe you’re right. I should just get to the hospital and get this taped right up.

nationspatriotcom on August 18, 2007 at 4:19 AM

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