The Koran is a guidebook for theocratic terror.

Except that no one in the Western leadership appears to have ever read the damned thing.

And I say “damned thing” advisedly.

The outrage at data mining and investigative data warehouses started a long time ago.

Here’s a snapshot from 2003, including NYPD Matrix.

desertdweller on August 15, 2007 at 1:27 PM

I think you do well to raise the point that the new techniques are threatening. To frame the matter in such a way that readers at this site are more likely to sympathize with our concern, I’ve read a report that Hugo Chavez is accumulating a database of information on his supporters and critics, and that his government search it when making such decisions as awarding jobs to supporters and keeping critics out of them.

the local city council shut it down.

rumor was that the intelligence group was finding a lot of leads to minority politicians.

this was the same bunch that would find a really bad a$$ burgler, follow him around until he robbed a place and then as he left the scene, inform him that thery were the police, call on him to surrender or suffer the consequences.

then call ambulances or coroners wagon as necessary.

urban legend was that on one guy they called the wagon before he came out of the licquor store. (bad form you know).

NYPD probably developed these techniques to get a finger on the bent nosed bunch many years ago.

C

Sounds like some Bayes’ Theory in action. In the latter part of Vietnam, the military started using Bayes’ theorem to figure out when Hamlets would go VC.

BohicaTwentyTwo on August 15, 2007 at 10:06 AM

Given that his techniques are now being used in such valuable ways, what is the probability that the Rev. Bayes is smiling? The rapid advance of the study of machine learning techniques since about 1990 has been amazing. One reason is that the required processing power and software has come to be available on small servers and, most recently, even desktop PCs.

Here’s a snapshot from 2003, including NYPD Matrix.

We should also check all speakeasies, juke joints, Vaudeville and Burlesque theaters, and any other incredibly archaic places where jihadies might hang out.

Exit question: Er, why didn’t the FBI do this?

If the FBI is on the case, and using information from the phone growing out of Brian Ross’s head, I would not expect them to tip their hat till they had one in the hole, so to speak. So how do we know the FBI is not already on the case and not just picking up tips from blogs like this?

A spokesman for the American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee is naturally outrageously outraged.

If they truly did represent “moderate Muslims” wouldn’t the normal response be to say, “Islamic Radicalism is a clear and present danger to our fellow Americans – what can we do to help you”?

That’s a rhetorical question, of course.

These matrices work. However, they end up linking people from the establishment to terrorists, networks, and other governments. I think it was Condi Rice and President George H. Bush that came up on the early runs of TIA.

In the BCCI case, it was NY prosecutors that kept the investigation alive while the Federal government was doing everything it could to shield US banks from involvement with BCCI’s intelligence network.

although for obvious reasons they don’t delve into the details of how the matrix works.

There was a movie on it, check it out sometime, good ninja action.

CAIR ain’t gonna like this…
WisCon on August 15, 2007 at 10:16 AM

…because, as we all know, saying that certain people may have a tendency towards violence is so oppressive that it can drive them to commit violence.

ic1redeye on August 15, 2007 at 10:30 AM

Correct me if I am wrong, but haven’t most, if not all, of the home grown terrorism busts been made by the people you just accused of not doing their jobs?

The report identifies mosques, bookstores, cafes, prisons and flop houses as what it calls “radicalization incubators” that provide “extremist fodder or fuel for radicalization.”

The leader of an American Arab civil rights group labeled the NYPD report as “unfortunate stereotyping” and at odds with federal law enforcement findings that the threat from homegrown terrorists was minimal.

Perhaps the report should have included American Arab civil rights groups on that list of “radicalization incubators.” I really wish they had.

A spokesman for the American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee is naturally outrageously outraged. Exit question: Er, why didn’t the FBI do this?

They wouldn’t publicize its existence. The FBI has to infiltrate these groups and that becomes harder when you tell them you’re on to them.

Exit question: Er, why didn’t the FBI do this?

Maybe they did and we just don’t know about it. More likely, it’s a good question, and the FBI probably has some explaining to do, which it won’t have to do, because Congressional oversight is more about PC politics than protecting the country. Hats off to the NYPD. Amercica’s finest!

Exit question: Er, why didn’t the FBI do this?

Because it’s the federal government. Same reason we haven’t secured our borders, and are relying on local and state governments to fix the problems.