Video: Robert Spencer talks about Religion of Peace on Fox & Friends
posted at 2:25 pm on August 14, 2007 by Bryan
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In an early bird slot this morning, Robert Spencer, Lauren Green and Brian Kilmeade discussed Robert’s 7th book, Religion of Peace: Why Christianity Is and Islam Isn’t.
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Christianity and islam.
Love and hate.
Life and death.
Peace and war.
Civilization and barbarity.
Freedom and slavery.
Apples and orang… poison berries.
Tony737 on August 14, 2007 at 2:31 PM
All joking aside (esp. regarding the Hamas Bee), Robert Spencer rocks!! I listened to the interview yesterday with Michelle and he was awesome. So much smarts in one person is just not fair!!
I’m looking for the book right now.
mjk on August 14, 2007 at 2:36 PM
One doesn’t have to lie or hate when the answer is obvious. These two religions have Icons that couldn’t be any more polar opposite. One Icon was a healer and a forgiver and the other Icon was a killer and a conqueror. Christians refuse to accept Mohammed as a prophet. Muslims refuse to acknowledge Jesus Christ as the son of God. Muslims are against Christ, as Devine and are therefore considered anti-Christian or Anti-Christ. Christians further reinforce this threw Matthews 7 15-20. Where in this verse explains that you can judge “False prophets by their results”. The World doesn’t see Christians/Jewish/Hindu/Buddha killing in the name of their god guided by their prophets. But instead the results from Islam has been death, destruction and chaos. One only has to do is judge them by their results.
KCtheKat on August 14, 2007 at 2:47 PM
Always good to see Robert getting the message out.
TheBigOldDog on August 14, 2007 at 2:48 PM
Fox was scared, why else was Green on there?
RiteWingFascist on August 14, 2007 at 2:49 PM
I can’t shake the feeling that it’s too late. That our civilization, just waking up to the threat against its existence, is too late to respond effectively, especially with so many contrary voices babbling about Peace.
Robert Spencer and others have clearly called us to defend ourselves-it may just be too late.
Doug on August 14, 2007 at 2:52 PM
Lauren is a warm loving Christian. They obviously pre-arranged to have Robert talk about Islam and Lauren to talk about Christianity. As soon as she strays, she can’t help but repeat the Islamo propaganda.
“Reverence” for Christ is a Islamo myth. Roberts Spencer was polite and did not rebuke her, but I know what he was thinking.
This clip reveals an important dilemma. Secular Christians have researched Islam and have analyzed the propaganda of apologists. There seems to be some indication that Evangelicals have opened their eyes too.
What is lacking is devout Christians from Episcopals to Catholics remain confused. The “knee-jerk” responses that “Jihad means inner struggle”, “Allah is the same god”, etc. persist.
Agrippa2k on August 14, 2007 at 2:52 PM
We’ll know America is on the path to victory when Jihad Watch is a popular daily show on Fox News.
FloatingRock on August 14, 2007 at 2:53 PM
The whole “Allah is the same god” concept is deeply flawed and misleading. The statement is not even wrong. Allah is not a god at all, it is a supposed god described by someone whose claims hundreds of years after the fact conflict with written records of numerous eyewitnesses, people who willingly gave their lives based on what they saw and wrote about. People who give their lives for Allah do so to get booty.
I agree, Robert Spencer is really on the ball to politely refute Green on the nonsense of Muslims revering Jesus. They revere some fictional creation of Mohamed who has a similar name.
pedestrian on August 14, 2007 at 3:00 PM
Links?
billy on August 14, 2007 at 3:07 PM
again,… Links?
billy on August 14, 2007 at 3:09 PM
Now I have no links, because I tend to read book to figure this stuff out. Allah actually refers to a moon god worshipped in the Middle East. Hence the crescent moon on the Islamic flags. Allah was, in fact, not the same God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, rather a completely different god co-opted by Mohammed to be the final and complete God
Mohammed who was actually illiterate changed the Bible and dictated to his secretaries what was right and wrong with the Bible itself. Like Abraham wasn’t Jewish – he was muslim. Like Moses’ sister, Miriam was actually the mother of Jesus. Like Jesus didn’t actually die on the cross. Like God isn’t God, rather Allah is god.
Of course, there are also actually parts of the Koran (which were “extracted” from the book, even thought it’s advertised as perfect) that enjoin worshippers to pay reverence to another couple of gods (their names escape me) and to worship Satan.
These parts, I did actually read in some English language Koran so you know.
mjk on August 14, 2007 at 3:15 PM
Which books?
billy on August 14, 2007 at 3:18 PM
It is.
PRCalDude on August 14, 2007 at 3:22 PM
She’s FNC’s Religion Editor.
baldilocks on August 14, 2007 at 3:26 PM
Try this one: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/moongod.htm
Ordinary1 on August 14, 2007 at 3:43 PM
Billy @ 3:18p.m.
Muslims and Christians definitely do not worship the same god. The two are polar opposites. Ask any devout muslim if he worships the christian God and he will surely laugh in your face. “Say he is god, the one and only god, eternal and absolute. He begets not, nor is he begotten and there is none like him” {Qur’an 112:1-4}
Now compare that to John 3:16 which says “For God so loved the world that He sent His One and Only begotten Son that whoever would believe in Him would not perish, but have everlasting life”.
Also from the Qur’an – “They said the most gracious has begotten a son. You have uttered a gross blasphemy. The heavens are about to shatter, the earth is about to tear asunder and the mountains are about to crumble because they claim the most gracious has begotten a son. It is not befitting the most gracious that he should beget a son…” -{Qur’an 19:88-95}
How about this from John 1:14 – “And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us and we beheld His glory, the glory of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.”
These are only a few of many, many fundamental differences between the two. Jesus’ Sonship and His deity are two basic tenets of Christianity and Islam denies those two in the Qur’an. If you would like more examples, I would be happy to provide them.
Nolamom67 on August 14, 2007 at 3:51 PM
How many times has this actually happened to you?
billy on August 14, 2007 at 3:56 PM
I work for a muslim doctor, thank you.
Nolamom67 on August 14, 2007 at 3:58 PM
Cool.
He didn’t happen to take a trip to Glasgow recently, did he?
SilverStar830 on August 14, 2007 at 4:11 PM
SilverStar830,
No, no trip to Glasgow. Checked out your site. Very true.
Nolamom67 on August 14, 2007 at 4:13 PM
I just finished reading Spencer’s book – excellent.
Lauren Green is beautiful.
Hilts on August 14, 2007 at 4:18 PM
Nolamom67 on August 14, 2007 at 3:51 PM
And that is what separates them from us.
We believe that God became Man and died for our sins, and they don’t.
As a Christian can we hate them for that?
We can hate them for 9/11, we can hate them for all the terrible videos we see here on Hot Air, but can we hate them because they do not accept Christ as their savior?
As much as I agree with our President and still support him,I find the “comfort level” with this line of thinking very disturbing.
billy on August 14, 2007 at 4:21 PM
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Kowboy on August 14, 2007 at 4:23 PM
That’s not an answer.
billy on August 14, 2007 at 4:23 PM
billy,
I never said anything about hating muslims. As a christian, I am called to pray for my enemies although their actions are horrific and atrocious and unthinkable. They are blinded by the god of this world(Satan)and need the saving grace of Jesus to lift the scales off their eyes just as much as we do.
Nolamom67 on August 14, 2007 at 4:26 PM
billy,
I work for a muslim doctor who did indeed laugh in my face when I asked him that question. To which I replied “why are you laughing? It was an honest question?” Then he proceeded to tell me regarding the tenets of the Islamic faith and that in no way, shape or form do muslims and christians worship the same god.
There…does this answer your question?
Nolamom67 on August 14, 2007 at 4:29 PM
And? How many times do you see a counter balance person there when a guest is plugging a book? When Mr. and Mrs. Happy is being plugged, do they have their resident family quack there to counter? When else has one of FOX’s editors been called in when a book is plugged focusing their area? Sports? Military? Political?
I dont remember Dick Morris needing a counter on Fox n Friends.
RiteWingFascist on August 14, 2007 at 4:30 PM
You wanted to know why she was there. I told you. Anytime a report/feature is up that is solely religious in nature (especially Christian, which includes this interview), she’s there and her introduction will include “FNC Religious Editor.” Anything else is speculation on your part and I’m not agreeing or disagreeing with it.
baldilocks on August 14, 2007 at 4:36 PM
Is there a specific person designated as the “Military Affairs Editor” at Fox?
baldilocks on August 14, 2007 at 4:37 PM
Geraldo! ;-p
RiteWingFascist on August 14, 2007 at 4:43 PM
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Ask your Muslim doctor about the origins of the word “Allah”.Does it have anything to do with the Hebrew Eloha?
As Rosie says, Google it!
billy on August 14, 2007 at 4:51 PM
We’re doomed!
baldilocks on August 14, 2007 at 4:55 PM
billy,
I will. Now let me ask something of you, what, exactly are you trying to get at here? That muslims and christians worship the same god? I’m just a little confused by your inquiries.
Nolamom67 on August 14, 2007 at 5:06 PM
Yes.
billy on August 14, 2007 at 5:10 PM
are you muslim, billy?
Nolamom67 on August 14, 2007 at 5:12 PM
sorry for that. meant to say “are you a muslim”?
Nolamom67 on August 14, 2007 at 5:13 PM
Why do you ask?
For the record, I am: a)Limbaugh fan
b)a Bush fan
c)a Catholic schoolboy
d)worried about our future
billy on August 14, 2007 at 5:19 PM
so, you consider yourself a christian? yes or no?
Nolamom67 on August 14, 2007 at 5:20 PM
Well yes.
billy on August 14, 2007 at 5:25 PM
There’s Vatican II speaking for you. 1965: The inaugural year of political correctness.
PRCalDude on August 14, 2007 at 5:29 PM
Isn’t Surah 19 where Allah condemns those who ‘assign a son to Allah’ as committing shirk? Could you find that ayat for us?
PRCalDude on August 14, 2007 at 5:30 PM
Nolamom67 on August 14, 2007 at 5:13 PM
Ms. Nola, I can’t reply.
As PRCalDude has discovred my awful secret.
I’m just too politically correct for Hot Air
billy on August 14, 2007 at 5:41 PM
Ok, billy, how do you reconcile the fact that muslims deny the deity of Christ, that Christ was crucified and that Christ is the only way to salvation? How can you then say we worship the same god? We don’t. It’s plain and simple. Muslims believe the only way to heaven(paradise) is by acts of martyrdom. That is the only way, according to the Qur’an. It’s a works based system that denies Christ. “But though we or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel(Christ crucified) unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed”. – Galations 1:8
Nolamom67 on August 14, 2007 at 5:41 PM
It seems kind of odd that the people actually doing the worshiping don’t seem to get to define exactly who it is they are worshiping, instead others get to tell them who it is they are “really” worshipping.
As an illustration. The people from Island “A” worship a volcano that they call “Rock”. The people from Island “B” worship a large carved stone idol they call “Stone”. An expert from another nation tells the people of Island “A” that they worship the same god as the people from Island “B” because the language of each island has a common source language and the word for “Rock” on Island “A” has the same common root word as the word “Stone” on Island “B”.
This expert is not swayed by the argument that the Island “A” natives make that their god shakes the land and belches out vast gouts of steam, ash and lava while the god of Island “B” does none of those things. Nor is the expert swayed by the arguments the natives of Island “B” make that their god has a face, with eyes to watch over them, ears to hear their supplications and a mouth to give them wisdom while the god of Island “A” has none of these things. The expert simply pats them on the head, sadly smiling at their obvious ignorance, for there can be no doubt that their gods are the same because he, in his expertise, has declared it to be so and his claim is unassailably supported by his vast knowledge of the origins of their individual languages.
Fatal on August 14, 2007 at 5:43 PM
Well said, Fatal!
Nolamom67 on August 14, 2007 at 5:47 PM
Chapter II:xvi of Vatican II:
PRCalDude on August 14, 2007 at 5:50 PM
Yeah uh Billy … Less Google, more Bible. If you read enough of the Bible, I think that should convince you more than anyone here.
apollyonbob on August 14, 2007 at 5:53 PM
This implied argument is fundamentally flawed because it is based on linguistics rather than theology. The origin of the word “Allah” doesn’t necessarily shed much light on what different religions believe their God to be.
forest on August 14, 2007 at 5:53 PM
I had to laugh. That was funny.
PRCalDude on August 14, 2007 at 5:53 PM
billy,
Because Muslims believe that martyrdom is the only way to achieve paradise then you definitely have reason to be worried about our future. Imagine what it would be like if their eyes were opened and they saw their need for Christ and realized His death paid the price for all of us. They wouldn’t have to earn their salvation. None of us can earn our salvation. “For by grace, you are saved, through faith, and NOT OF WORKS, lest any man should boast.” Ephesians 2:8,9. Praise God for this, the good news of Jesus Christ who took my place on the cross. I, a depraved sinner, deserving of hell, can now spend eternity with Jesus based only on what He has done! Great and Glorious God!!!!! This is what sets men free, billy.
Nolamom67 on August 14, 2007 at 5:58 PM
?
Stop for a sec, and read that again.
I say look at this twice because as it is at the heart of our belief.
Do you know this? or is this what you have heard?
billy on August 14, 2007 at 6:01 PM
It’s in the Qur’an. Only those who die “fighting in the way of Allah” are guaranteed Paradise.
PRCalDude on August 14, 2007 at 6:13 PM
So tell me “forest” who is your god?
What pagan piss-christ do you worship?
billy on August 14, 2007 at 6:15 PM
Are you cross-posting at Pandagon also?
PRCalDude on August 14, 2007 at 6:21 PM
billy,
I think it’s about time for a mod to put you out. You are not even attempting to address the point I made, and you’re going for unhinged insults instead.
And no need to put “forest” in quotes. It appears on my birth certificate and is an old family name.
This is the last I’ll address you.
forest on August 14, 2007 at 6:23 PM
People listen,
I am not a Muslim. I can’t defend the muslim religion, nor can I defend the practices of modern Islam.
I am a catholic christian.
However, I believe that Robert Spencer, and others, are presenting a one-sided, misguided view of the 1 billion+ muslims in the world today.
All that I’m asking is that you stop: and listen.
Are you hearing what you want to hear?
Or are you hearing the truth aboutn your fellow human beings?
billy on August 14, 2007 at 6:37 PM
Yeah, lets just invite them all over for a nice weinie-roast, sing Kumbaya and share a Coke, then all will be happiness and light!
Maybe you can get Nick Berg to hand out the invitations?
Fatal on August 14, 2007 at 6:43 PM
Heh. Let’s get billy to do it. “Mr. Dadullah, would you like to come to our interfaith dialogue?”
PRCalDude on August 14, 2007 at 6:48 PM
You’re right.
Why bother.
billy on August 14, 2007 at 6:48 PM
hahaha!
Nice.
Billy: That works both ways. Are you hearing what you want hear? Are you blind to the danger we face?
Sticking your head in the sand is a form of suicide. Plugging your ears and yelling, “LA LA LA WE ALL WORSHIP THE SAME GOD” isn’t going to convince the jihadists when they come to kill you.
There is real danger out there. There are real Islamofascist terrorists. And they do not worship the same god as Christians. They don’t believe so, we don’t believe so. The Pope doesn’t believe so. Robert Spencer has dedicated a good portion of his life studying the Koran and every other Islamic holy book, and he doesn’t believe so. . The Islamists refer to Christians and Jews as “People of the Book”. They believe, as Spencer rightly says, that anyone who believes in the divinity of Christ is an unbeliever. So the leaders of the Islamic world don’t believe so.
The real question is: Why the hell do you?
(Evidence in your answer, pulled either from the Bible or the Koran, preferrably both, appreciated.)
apollyonbob on August 14, 2007 at 6:51 PM
I was just not as fast as the snark XP
apollyonbob on August 14, 2007 at 6:52 PM
Yeah, lets just invite them all over for a nice weinie-roast, sing Kumbaya and share a Coke, then all will be happiness and light!
Maybe you can get Nick Berg to hand out the invitations?
Fatal on August 14, 2007 at 6:43 PM
Heh. Let’s get billy to do it. “Mr. Dadullah, would you like to come to our interfaith dialogue?”
PRCalDude on August 14, 2007 at 6:48 PM
Nick Berg is dead. Or didn’t you know that?
billy on August 14, 2007 at 6:54 PM
You’re kidding, right?!
Oh man, I didn’t know that! I retract everything I’ve said.
Wow, am I embarassed.
Fatal on August 14, 2007 at 7:07 PM
Sticking your head in the sand is a form of suicide. Plugging your ears and yelling, “LA LA LA WE ALL WORSHIP THE SAME GOD” isn’t going to convince the jihadists when they come to kill you.
There is real danger out there. There are real Islamofascist terrorists.
apollyonbob on August 14, 2007 at 6:51 PM
For the most part,I agree.
Where do I dis-agree?
I don’t think the radicalism of al-Quaeda is inherent to Islam.
I think it is an outgrowth of the leftish ideology of American/European academia.
I think we have to confront the contemporary ideology that governs our own schools, and entertainment, et al., rather than Islam, if we’re going to defeat Islamonazism.
billy on August 14, 2007 at 7:09 PM
I’m not a Christian, can I go ahead and just hate them all if I want?
I don’t have anything against Islam as a whole. I just tend to not be very fond of people that belief they can gain eternal life by killing me and my children. So hey if the foe shits.
TheSitRep on August 14, 2007 at 7:11 PM
I’m not a Christian, can I go ahead and just hate them all if I want?
I don’t have anything against Islam as a whole. I just tend to not be very fond of people that believe they can gain eternal life by killing me and my children. So hey if the shoe fits.
TheSitRep on August 14, 2007 at 7:12 PM
I think we have to confront the contemporary ideology that governs our own schools, and entertainment, et al., rather than Islam, if we’re going to defeat Islamonazism.
billy on August 14, 2007 at 7:09 PM
You mean it’s all our fault?! I never heard that one before. I need to let that sink in…
JWS on August 14, 2007 at 7:13 PM
Yeah, Hot Shot. You got my point. Whooo-hoo aren’t you oh-so-smart.
Read the comment (and the thread) again, before you share your words of wisdom.
billy on August 14, 2007 at 7:18 PM
I hope he was gentle with you.
TheSitRep on August 14, 2007 at 7:19 PM
Two words. Ron Paul
Kowboy on August 14, 2007 at 7:20 PM
All that hate is jus’ gonna’
burn you up, boy.
billy on August 14, 2007 at 7:23 PM
Yeah, Hot Shot. You got my point. Whooo-hoo aren’t you oh-so-smart.
Read the comment (and the thread) again, before you share your words of wisdom.
billy on August 14, 2007 at 7:18 PM
Ouch. “Hot Shot”? Anyway…
Tell us again about Robert Spencers’ shortcomings; now THAT takes a pair.
I’d respond in more detail but you’re obviously trying to yank chains…
JWS on August 14, 2007 at 7:25 PM
Two words. Ron Paul
Kowboy on August 14, 2007 at 7:20 PM
LOL. Amen bro…
JWS on August 14, 2007 at 7:26 PM
As long as it doesn’t effect my site picture or site alignment,, I’ll be fine.
TheSitRep on August 14, 2007 at 7:28 PM
Lovely.
You hate Catholics.
Let’s guess,
you hate Jews.
You hate Blacks.
You hate Muslims.
You hate Mexicans.
or just anyone different from TheSitRep
No, I’m being harsh, only Muslims,
Right?
billy on August 14, 2007 at 7:48 PM
My wife is Catholic and Part Black and part Chinese. A very close friend is a Catholic priest. By the way he is gay and I don’t hold that against him. He is a wonderful man.
But I debate him about religion as he holds a PhD in theology. If it was a tenet of Catholicism to kill infidels I’d be hatin’ their asses too!
TheSitRep on August 14, 2007 at 7:56 PM
and when you dropped your bon-mots regarding priests molesting children…
Tell me, how did your “very close friend” respond?
Or, do you express one opinion on the internets, and another in front of the people who know you?
billy on August 14, 2007 at 8:03 PM
Billy, if you believe Mr. Spencer is wrong about something why don’t you provide evidence to back up your claims, like Mr. Spencer always does? Just because you “don’t think” something doesn’t make you an authority on the topic.
FloatingRock on August 14, 2007 at 8:08 PM
that video made my day.
PRCalDude on August 14, 2007 at 8:15 PM
All right, big boy. How ’bout the Koran? The Bible? All sorts of archeological books, historical books by Winston Churchill (not the PM, the other one). Moshe Dayan, Walid Shoebat, some boring piece of crap by Saeb Erakat. Honestly, I can’t keep track of most books titles because I will basically read anything that comes across my desk.
But I guess since I can’t provide links on the Internet, my points are somehow irrelevant. Because we all know what a bastion of truth the Internet is, right?
There’s nothing sadder than a generation who doesn’t know how to pick up a book and find “stuff” out for themselves. I shudder for a group of people who get ALL their information from the Internet.
Well, I’m done and you’re boring me.
mjk on August 14, 2007 at 8:18 PM
Billy;
Do you really believe that ‘the same God’ would command BOTH of the following:
Quran; Surah 004: Ayah 089
Take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah. Seize them and slay them wherever ye find them.
And
Bible: Exodus 20 or Deuteronomy 5; The 6th Commandment:
You shall not murder.
Back when I was young and naive, I too believed that God and Allah were essentially the same.
Then I actually read the Quran.
And realized that only the complete antithesis of God would call for conversion by the Sword instead of by the Word.
LegendHasIt on August 14, 2007 at 8:22 PM
LegendHasIt on August 14, 2007 at 8:22 PM
Billy old boy, I’d say that’s game, set, and match…
JWS on August 14, 2007 at 8:26 PM
Allah just means “God” in Arabic….It’s not that complicated, Arab Christians and Jews call God “Allah.” The Muslim “Allah” is clearly derivative from the Judaic-Christian lineage. It was John of Damascus who some 1000 years ago first described Islam as a Christian heresy. Nevertheless, it’s hard to reconcile the simple fact that the basis of the Christian belief in God is belief in the Trinitarian nature of God, which of course the Muslims do not accept–but neither do the Jews, so does that mean they do not worship the same God? I guess I’m somewhat on the fence about this one. Clearly the Islamic God is related to the Christian God in some sense, certainly more than say the many gods of Hinduism…That said, I do think far too much Islam-bashing goes on at this website.
WillBarrett on August 14, 2007 at 8:26 PM
I can’t say for certain that I agree with every single thing that Robert Spencer says or writes (after all, I haven’t read all of his stuff), but from what little I have seen here on HotAir, I can say with some confidence that:
1) he is fair (I would not question either his integrity or his motives),
2) his depth of knowledge regarding the subject matter is simply vast (he is an impressive scholar, to say the least),
3) he possesses sorely needed verbal and written communication skills that are in sharp contrast to what I see in today’s MSM.
My collie says:
CyberCipher on August 14, 2007 at 8:50 PM
Yeah Billy, Your killin’ my buzz.
TheSitRep on August 14, 2007 at 8:51 PM
Hope this does not offend but really, arguments of Christianity vs. Islam vs. Judaism is like the feud between Sunni and Shia. At the end of the day they are all just middle eastern mythology, when we all know the one true God is plainly Odin.
TheSitRep on August 14, 2007 at 8:57 PM
billy accused TheSitRep of racism. We all know what that means. TheSitRep wins.
kahall on August 14, 2007 at 9:04 PM
Heritic! Zeus is the only true ruler of the gods.
FloatingRock on August 14, 2007 at 9:15 PM
You win! I convert as of now.
TheSitRep on August 14, 2007 at 9:21 PM
Time to neuter the word ‘racist’ or ‘racism.’ It’s lost all meaning. Next time somebody calls anybody a racist, just reply ‘yeah, and?’
PRCalDude on August 14, 2007 at 10:24 PM
Me too. Makes me want to head out to the range, with those same orange earplugs.
infidel4life on August 14, 2007 at 11:13 PM
Game over. Let’s hear your reply to that one, billy boy.
infidel4life on August 14, 2007 at 11:16 PM
billy needs to read my website, devoted to Islam
http://home.comcast.net/~vincep312
or if he prefers, the best commentary on islam on the internet:
http://www.prophetofdoom.net
of if he’s short on time
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com
VinceP1974 on August 14, 2007 at 11:47 PM
Billy,
Had you spent a day with the koran you would not look like the idiot you do right now.
Vaccinate yourself by reading it. Then come back with a foolish grin and say your sorry.
BL@KBIRD on August 15, 2007 at 12:02 AM
The current allah is actually an earlier god called baal.
Very late to the thread, and still reading it, but here’s a link that lays it all out pretty well.
Very detailed. Be persistant.
techno_barbarian on August 15, 2007 at 12:05 AM
Fools. Gaia will smite you all. Thus spaketh al-goracle.
techno_barbarian on August 15, 2007 at 12:33 AM
No Valhalla for you.
ticticboom on August 15, 2007 at 3:44 AM
Thanks for the link, I was trying to look something up on that, but couldn’t figure out how to spell baal.
- The Cat
P.S. to billy the troll, check this out.
MirCat on August 15, 2007 at 5:01 AM
Wanna see a guy getting it on with 72 virgins?
Check this WARNING GRAPHIC IN THE EXTREME
http://poetry.rotten.com/failed-mission/
link thing aint workin’
TheSitRep on August 15, 2007 at 6:57 AM
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