Video: Geraldo outrageously outraged at media coverage of Newark illegal alien suspect
posted at 10:02 pm on August 14, 2007 by Allahpundit
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We all knew it was coming. It just took a few days longer than I thought.
He’s ostensibly upset that the media showed no interest in the Newark shootings until one of “the undocumented” emerged as a prime suspect. No kidding; if there’s one thing the shamnesty coverage proved, it’s how vehemently anti-illegal the media is. Bill first reminds him that border enforcement is in fact a bit of a hot-button political issue these days, which may explain the interest in the immigration angle, then makes the basic point about but-for causation with respect to the ICE deportation hold that should have happened but didn’t. Geraldo continues to dismiss these cases as isolated incidents with no larger policy implications despite the fact that he’s on O’Reilly or Gibson’s show every other week having to spin another facet of the systemic breakdown in immigration enforcement. Bill calls him on that at the end, too.
The one thing he doesn’t call him on is the hypocrisy of his position here vis-a-vis the Zina Linnik case. Geraldo’s answer to the but-for argument is that the judge never should have let Carranza out on bail with a child rape charge pending against him, irrespective of whether he was illegal or not. True — but in Zina Linnik’s case, it wasn’t judicial incompetence that put the suspect back on the street, it was the incompetence of the immigration tracking system that kept the feds from finding out about the conviction in 1992 that would have authorized the suspect’s deportation. Geraldo’s answer to that at the time was to misreport the suspect’s immigration status and then claim that that status would have prevented the feds from deporting him at all. Wrong wrong wrong. And so far as I know, he still hasn’t corrected the record about it. I guess he’s too consumed with waiting for his apology from Michelle.
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How dare somebody point out the man accused of executing three innocent children is an illegal alien. The outrage!
amerpundit on August 14, 2007 at 10:07 PM
I’m calming down too… yeah right.
Mcguyver on August 14, 2007 at 10:15 PM
Is it just me, or is Geraldo simply getting more grotesque looking as time goes by? I don’t mean older, but his face is becoming more contorted, and he is shrinking into his own body.
Something like what is happening to Bill Maher.
I am not being snarky. It just seems that he has twisted himself into a moral pretzel and it shows.
Maybe it is just me.
CrimsonFisted on August 14, 2007 at 10:17 PM
Ho-rawl-doe reached the limit of his talent years ago. He’s become a joke.
mustang1 on August 14, 2007 at 10:18 PM
Once again Geraldo is out of the institution on good behavior.. Without a straighjacket no less,,however he was in leg irons under table you just couldn’t see them.. Then comes the next fruitcake–Fruity Rudy the “Sanctuary Mayor of the Century” to tell us all, how tough he’s going to be on the illegals if elected. He did do a great job there in NYC..another straightjacket soon to be in order. Keep them coming Bill you have a lot to go.. however you forgot the best one of all the, John the McInsane shamnesty cofounder. Really this list is almost endless and good thing for us cause I really need some laughs before I retire at night..
Legions on August 14, 2007 at 10:19 PM
I love how Bill just took the last word and said ‘I gotta run’. The look on Geraldo’s face as he tried to bite his tounge was suhweet.
BadgerHawk on August 14, 2007 at 10:20 PM
Is Geraldo for or against detaining and deporting illegals who are convicted of committing crimes?
Let him answer no and try to defend it without revealing himself to be an absolute nutter.
mjgreco on August 14, 2007 at 10:21 PM
I don’t like Geraldo, and disagree with the almost all of the positions he takes, but he does seem to be sincerely passionate about this issue, albeit wrong, wrong, wrong. Sorry, CrimsonFisted, I felt your comment that he was becoming more “grotesque” looking was uncalled for. I thought Bill O. did a better job than usual with Geraldo today.
reine.de.tout on August 14, 2007 at 10:23 PM
Now even black folks I know are FINALLY seeing the real picture! A tad late, but at least they are seeing the truth!
SouthernGent on August 14, 2007 at 10:23 PM
This is roughly equivalent to the same logic that anti-gun nuts make.
Me: Why not enforce the gun laws already on the books so that gun crime is discouraged?
Them: No! We need to take the guns away from the people NOT breaking the laws, and make even more laws that affect only them!
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2007 at 10:28 PM
2 posts ago at HotAir there was a story about 2 men killed in a hit and run by an illegal, and here’s what I said at the time:
Ugh, this hysterical idiot never ceases to
amazedisgust.RightWinged on August 14, 2007 at 10:31 PM
I can understand Geraldo wanting to defend LAW ABIDING illegals, but how can he go to bat for felons, child rapists, and murderers just because they’re latino? He needs to get some professional help.
Paul the American on August 14, 2007 at 10:31 PM
Single-handedly this nimrod takes FOX from decent to crap on a regular basis. An embarrassment. All the FOX anchors; ‘cept Shep complain of the liberal media bias and then FOX News hires a hopeless creep to represent the left. Again an embarrassment. And we wonder why FOX can’t get no respect?
Griz on August 14, 2007 at 10:34 PM
Makes me often wonder if he’s got dirt on Ailes or something… why else won’t they just kick his ass to the curb? Is his pathetic weekend tabloid show really doing so well that he’s some sort of asset? (Rhetorical question obviously). That show clearly doesn’t do anything for the network, so is it his constant insane stance on immigration? Is it his hysterical and sensational coverage of things like New Orleans, or teasing Facebook pages as possibly Cho Seung Hui’s even though that theory was debunked hours earlier? What is it? Why keep this guy on?
RightWinged on August 14, 2007 at 10:44 PM
Michael Moore: “There IS NO Islamic terrorist threat.”
Geraldo Rivera: “There IS NO illegal alien threat.”
My collie says:
If I may borrow a secular term: EVOLVE!
CyberCipher on August 14, 2007 at 10:48 PM
Fox really needs to ditch this moron, he makes about as much sense as the Black Panther leader they periodically bring on.
WisCon on August 14, 2007 at 10:53 PM
Has anyone checked to see if Geraldo is an illegal alien?
Just askin’.
jaleach on August 14, 2007 at 10:57 PM
How about a compromise?
Let’s give amnesty to the 20 million illegals.
And deport Geraldo. To anywhere.
What do you say? It’s perfect. Everybody wins. Except Geraldo.
Professor Blather on August 14, 2007 at 10:57 PM
Au contraire! I think Senor Jerry Rivers should stay right where is, because he is truly a useful idiot.
First, he illustrates in graphic detail the glaring stupidity of the amnesty crowd.
But second, and far more importantly, every time I hear some idiot start ranting about the conservative bias of “Faux Snooze” … I have a one word answer: Geraldo.
He’s awesome. Dumb enough to serve as a poster child for dumb people, yet coherent enough to echo the real-world position of a lot of left-wing Democrats … which must freak them out to see him on Faux Snooze.
He’s awesome. Go, Jerry, go … you fabulous Magnum PI-wannabe.
Professor Blather on August 14, 2007 at 11:01 PM
He doesn’t bother me anymore. When I see him come on any show, the channel is changed. Period. We all KNOW exactly what he will say so why suffer?
JWS on August 14, 2007 at 11:03 PM
LAW ABIDING illegals
Did you read your post before hitting the submit button?
BDavis on August 14, 2007 at 11:13 PM
I used to think that Shepherd Smith was FoxNews’ token idiot. Then I remember Geraldo.
GT on August 14, 2007 at 11:16 PM
Rivera is a faux Hispanic showing faux indignation about those he, up until recently, didn’t know even existed.
As we have witnessed over the years, he is an opportunist of the first order. He is the National Enquirer incarnate presenting titillating stories while attempting to show us how important he.
He provides no useful service as it relates to the news and I, like many other, wonder why FOX keeps him on other than possible comic relief.
pocomoco on August 14, 2007 at 11:18 PM
I don’t believe CO2 is a pollutant, except when Geraldo opens his mouth.
infidel4life on August 14, 2007 at 11:21 PM
Wow, this guy has jumped the shark so many times. Think about the broken nose. Al Capone’s vault. Most of the talk show era. Then what I thought would be the final nail his career, The Iraq Incident. But he just keeps going and going. The energizer bunny of broadcasting.
PowWow on August 14, 2007 at 11:22 PM
Let me get this straight Geraldo. We could prevent a portion, how ever small you think it is, of these hidious, awful, terrible crimes by enforcing existing laws on ILLEGAL immigration, but shouldn’t because they are illegal immigrants.
oakpack on August 14, 2007 at 11:24 PM
Im going to go out on a limb here and say that I agree with Geraldo’s outrage that the media didn’t care about the case until it was brought out that the murderer was an illegal alien. I don’t like Geraldo but this time he is right. The media should have been on this from day one no matter who the murderer was and not because of the political b/s behind it. I didn’t see him defending this guy as someone on here suggested, but he was outraged at the fact of how the media handled it.
I agree with BO that we need to stop these judges who are letting people like this out, especially illegals who have no business being here in the first place and put a stop to sanctuary cities. As far as I’m concerned they have no rights under the constitution as they have already proven to be law breakers by being here illegally. This man should not have ever been given bail and should have been held with bail for raping a child, and in all honesty he should have his cajones cut off and shoved down his throat.
TFM
ThinkingForMyself on August 14, 2007 at 11:29 PM
His unreasonableness does him great harm. It makes him look like he’s protecting these people and that they are more important to him than the victims. What a fool…
TheBigOldDog on August 14, 2007 at 11:29 PM
Geraldooo spinning like a liberal top.
Blamed everyone and everything except the bad guy.
If I say it load and long enough I’ll have-em eating out
my hands. Right ! Geraldooooo. Pffff
Texyank on August 14, 2007 at 11:30 PM
ThinkingForMyself on August 14, 2007 at 11:29 PM
There are tragedies all over the United States that every one should learn from. Here, in Mpls/StP, there was a little girl doing her home work at the kitchen table, killed by a stray bullet from a gang member a couple years ago. As terrible as it is, it doesn’t set it apart from the terrible things going on else where or here since. Illegal immigration sets it apart from the rest. It’s something to point at and say “look, if we solve this, we can stop that”.
That’s why Geraldo’s argument about it going nation wide doesn’t wash with me.
oakpack on August 14, 2007 at 11:46 PM
Yeah, I gotta admit … that little phrase is a knee-slapper.
Professor Blather on August 14, 2007 at 11:49 PM
Are you serious?
Do you own a television?
This case was WALL TO WALL coverage BEFORE they even had a suspect. What do you mean the media “didn’t care?” It was on every network all day long – BEFORE they even had a suspect.
Want to try again?
If you’d like an example of a crime the media REALLY didn’t care much about, I’d point you here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newsom
Professor Blather on August 14, 2007 at 11:51 PM
No, Shep Smith is the DLC/Hillary Clinton token.
Geraldo is the DemocraticUnderground/DailyKos token.
They’re both awesome! (I actually suspect they’re both Rovian double agents, but don’t tell)
Professor Blather on August 14, 2007 at 11:52 PM
Geraldo seems to have a problem with the judge pertaining to the bail arrangements. Just wondering if the bail was in line with other cases or was it imposed in the manner stated just because the guy is one of those ’special handling’ illegal aliens.
News2Use on August 14, 2007 at 11:56 PM
When one becomes a caricature of one’s self, it is past time to retire from media appearances… Indeed, time to retire from appearing in public at all, in person, print, video or voice…. Or even in WalMart.
Not really sure when HerrAldo became a caricature of himself… I tend to think just about the time of ‘Al Capone’s Vault’ (of which I have a suspicion that it was actually Al Capp’s parking garage, and HerrAldo just added the ‘one’ to sucker us into watching ;-).
But he did a couple of things that were halfway decent after that, so I can’t put a precise date on it.
LegendHasIt on August 14, 2007 at 11:59 PM
The professor wins! It was all over the place before the illegal angle came in.
The story was one of these “poor black kids struggled and overcame all odds to go to college, and were murdered because of the state of their neighborhoods” stories. I was getting quite annoyed with the coverage, specifically because of things like the case Professor Blather links to. I’m not saying it’s not a tragedy, but it was one of these stories being played in a way that is supposed to make the rest of us feel guilty for the existence of these neighborhoods, which translates in to “This is America under Bush!”
Anyway, the point is, whether you think it’s justified or not, the story was getting played up before the illegal angle, and it properly got it’s second wind when this angle was realized.
RightWinged on August 14, 2007 at 11:59 PM
I want the destructive forces in this country thrown the hell out!
If you hate America, if making America fail is your goal, if the downfall or the replacement of my free America is what you’re working for then the least that can happen is you’re trying to make that come to pass from far away.
You don’t get the privilege of trying to destroy the Nation my ancestors handed down to me and I hand down to my children and grand children, on my tax dollar, from my halls of government or from next door!
If you don’t like America, the home of the free and the brave, tough, get out!
Speakup on August 15, 2007 at 12:00 AM
Jerry Rivers. It is amazing to me that he still has a job, especially when he goes on the air with a straight face saying how outraged he is that the background of an alleged child rapist and mass murderer is exposed to the public. Can’t this guy enjoy his privacy, for Pete’s sake? (sarc)
Abu Daboo Doo on August 15, 2007 at 12:04 AM
RightWinged is right. The professor wins.
oakpack on August 15, 2007 at 12:05 AM
Geraldo gives even illegals a badder name.
profitsbeard on August 15, 2007 at 12:16 AM
Fixed that for ya!
jaleach on August 15, 2007 at 12:20 AM
How I wish Geraldo gets beaten up by an illegal alien who should have been deported long time ago
Ropera on August 15, 2007 at 12:28 AM
that man needs a bath…
D2Boston on August 15, 2007 at 12:37 AM
I suppose it could go either way, but I feel that the coverage (prior to the immigration angle, and there as plenty of it) was more about trying to tell us that no matter how much these poor people struggle to overcome their situations, Republicans/Bush still can’t clean up the streets to give them a fighting chance. The obsession with telling us that they were off to college, over and over and over again made this clear. As if somehow if they weren’t off to college, it would just be another gang shooting.
Anyway, the overall point stands… Professor Blather is right, there was plenty of coverage pre-illegal alien angle.
Come on guy, this ain’t Kos. I know you just want Geraldo to understand why his position is completely and shockingly insane, but you can’t just say stuff like that… it makes us look as low as the other side.
RightWinged on August 15, 2007 at 12:39 AM
He does draw darn good maps in the sand, though.
chewydog on August 15, 2007 at 12:47 AM
I really wish O’reilly would not put geraldo on. He is so pathetic and his views are a lunatic ranting.
I tape the Factor but always fast forward through geraldo. It’s just not worth depleting the brain cells.
Highrise on August 15, 2007 at 1:47 AM
Fair and Balanced. With one mean bulging forehead vein ready to pop.
Kini on August 15, 2007 at 2:04 AM
And so do we after we see and hear him.
Why does O’Reilly put him on?
Is there something here we don’t know?
OBX Pete on August 15, 2007 at 2:25 AM
Perfidious knave. I put him in the same category as McCain.
jaime on August 15, 2007 at 2:49 AM
Geraldo serves a useful purpose being shown periodically as the spokesperson for his inane open-borders stance – as long as we have competant people (like MM) to debate him.
I would enjoy seeing him squirm while trying to comment/debate on the LOOOONG list of illegal alien murders, rapes, and DUI
manslaughtermurder cases updated DAILY athttp://www.outragedpatriots.com/
Take your blood pressure medicine before reading!!
My BP is 120/80, and I NEED IT!!
fred5678 on August 15, 2007 at 3:15 AM
I agree with you Professor Blather. Geraldo, Shep, Alan, Jane Hall, Ellis, Laura Schwratz, and other Fox contributors have to remain on Fox. It is rather enjoyable to see them all squirm when they are proven wrong. Which seems to be happening a little more frequently I might add.
kiakjones on August 15, 2007 at 6:05 AM
Deranged liberal without hope. Jerry is downright loopy.
saved on August 15, 2007 at 6:18 AM
This idiot belongs on Jerry Springer not the Factor
Viper1 on August 15, 2007 at 7:16 AM
Bill is such a wimp.” I don’t want him executed”
Geraldo is a nut.
He should have been executed then deported.
Execution cures recidivism 100% satisfaction guaranteed!
TheSitRep on August 15, 2007 at 7:18 AM
The peak of his career was opening Al Capone’s vault. Perhaps he should take up permanent there.
oldleprechaun on August 15, 2007 at 7:30 AM
This guy is illegal – then if he’s found guilty we could immediately march him out of the court and execute him, right? If he isn’t a citizen he has none of our rights. Giving him a fair and speedy trial would be gracious enough. But no chance for appeal, no imprisonment, no chance for parole, and no deportation. A bullet in the back of the head would be most appropriate, if he is in fact guilty. Screw life in prison – why should we have to pay for that? This guy isn’t even an American criminal. He has no Constitutional rights.
Dork B. on August 15, 2007 at 8:05 AM
After the drunk illegal kills three:
- GR
Today:
-GR
Tomorrow:
The fact remains- had these illegal alien cretins been deported immediately, six US citizens would be alive today.
drjohn on August 15, 2007 at 8:09 AM
The ‘Jerry Rivers’ thing is a urban legend. Look it up on snopes.com.
tlynch001 on August 15, 2007 at 8:26 AM
Geraldo’s point about this story “having nothing to do with the fact the perp is illegal” is based on two assumptions: (1) illegal aliens commit violent crimes with equal or less frequency than lawful aliens or citizens; and (2) there is no moral virtue in asking aliens, whether lawful or not, to be on their best behavior as they “earn” citizenship, such that committing crime while here is a perfectly legitimate reason to deport even a legal alien.
Have you ever noticed that Geraldo never expressly addresses either of his assumptions? His defense is purely “well, the judge let the guy out on bail” or “citizens kill people too” — neither of which go to the real issues. I realize that the first question is purely empirical and the second question is purely normative, but, it would be nice to hear Geraldo (or any other open-borders advocate) really confront those core issues. I suspect they don’t confront those issues because they have nothing good to say about them.
In any case, Geraldo is a total disaster. He’s a useful idiot and not much more. But FNC is making a good faith effort to be “fair and balanced,” and now that the DNC and the Daily Kos are blacklisting FNC, it’s going to be harder and harder for FNC to get good liberals to come on. I seriously wonder what will happen if Hillary or Obama wins the White House in 2008 – I bet they take FNC’s press corps seat/pass away and order all democrats to not appear on any Fox station or to be interviewed in any News Corp-owned paper.
Outlander on August 15, 2007 at 8:53 AM
Geraldo Rivera – the “journalist” who looks like a 1970’s porn star named Harry Reems.
Hilts on August 15, 2007 at 8:58 AM
Hasn’t the expiration date on Geraldo Rivera been reached yet?
Hilts on August 15, 2007 at 8:59 AM
When did this denier of reality say anything worth hearing?
Franklin Hill on August 15, 2007 at 9:00 AM
Another waste of time on Fox is Greta Van Sustern and her crime du jour program.
Hilts on August 15, 2007 at 9:04 AM
O’Reilly and Geraldo miss the point completely.
NONE OF THE CRIMES COMMITTED BY ILLEGAL ALIENS WOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED IF THESE CRIMINALS WOULD HAVE BEEN STOPPED AT THE BORDER, NOT KEPT IN JAIL.
This kind of thinking they have is idiocy. ENFORCEMENT PREVENTS CRIMES.
madmonkphotog on August 15, 2007 at 9:05 AM
Since Jerry “Geraldo” Rivers started showing up on Fox News, then on the weekends, I’m spending at LEAST 30% less time tuned to FOX.
And although the O’reilly ratings still beat the competition, I’m hyper-forwarding past MOST of his program these days.
What’s happening to Fox news? Can’t they see “Geraldo” is crap?
Keith_Z on August 15, 2007 at 9:21 AM
I see Geraldo spending his meager store of credibility, but don’t see what he’s buying.
Does he really think he can affect future legislation by yelling at Bill? Nah, it must be a knee jerk reaction causing his foot to fly up into his mouth.
TunaTalon on August 15, 2007 at 9:38 AM
Well, then he’s upset over bullshiite. The story was most definitely reported before Carranza was connected to it. I specifically remember hearing about it and having a conversation about it when there were no suspects in the case. 4 young people being shot execution style in a schoolyard tends to stick in your mind.
Jerry is full of crapola, again.
Pablo on August 15, 2007 at 10:14 AM
Would FOX news stop putting this gossip journalist on the TV, puhlease!
Let’s just call him “Perpetual Outrage Man”.
Heaven forbid the US enforce its own laws Geraldo. Sheesh, I guess that makes a country run by Jack Booted Thugs eh?
Montana on August 15, 2007 at 10:18 AM
I’m surprised that Geraldo didn’t offer to tell us what kind of fruit Carranza picked. The truth is, instead of picking fruit, Carranza was picking little teen boys to be in his gang and kill people. I wonder how many of them are also here illegally?
People like Geraldo won’t get it until illegals move in next door packing five or more families into one house. Cars and vans parked in the yard and trash piling up, along with drunken weekend parties. Or until the neighbor shops close due to gang violence and are replaced with Spanish only stores. Or when his wife tries to get gas and is accosted by someone speaking Spanish and blocking her way. Or when violence and murders triple in your little neighborhood area, then perhaps Geraldo will get it, when it finally impacts him where he lives.
moonsbreath on August 15, 2007 at 10:26 AM
I want him executed as well. I’m a Moderate Democrat.
DfDeportation on August 15, 2007 at 10:51 AM
Professor Blather, RightWinged, and so on…
it wasn’t that big of news in the media until the illegal aspect information got published. That is what I am on about. I am very well aware of the other story and many others that don’t get notice by major media outlets such as many other black on white crimes that seem to go unnoticed or “no one cares” because they are white victims. Maybe you forgot about (or never heard of)the killing in Wilkinsburg where a black man went on a shooting spree killing only whites because they were white, or the other Killeen TX murders of a white couple… I could go on all day about them.
The point I am making here, although Geraldo is an ass about everything, is that hardly anyone cared about this case nation wide until it became known that the offender was an illegal alien and now possible ties to MS13.
I hate Geraldo probably as much as the rest of you and maybe even more, but that doesn’t mean I can’t look at this with an open mind and see that just because he is an ass he can’t be right sometimes as well.
This news was NOT all over the place when it first happened, it was merely mentioned then forgotten until they found out who he was. Then as even Bill admitted it exploded into a major story.
I understand his outrage that this POS got his bail reduced and freed after he raped a 5 year old kid. I think I am more outraged at that fact than that the guy was an illegal in this case, as this seems to be the fav of the month with judges letting child sex offenders out with a slap on the wrist or in many cases lately no slap at all.
Though we definitely need to get harder on illegals, especially criminal illegals (I say shoot them at the border for invasion), we need to get even harder on judges who let these guys go including the INS/ICE, politicians who support them being here, employers who hire them and so on. No gravy train = No illegals.
Bill was on about just putting this guy in prison for the rest of his life, I say we hang the POS and be done with it, he doesn’t deserve life, especially one up here in the states.
TFM
ThinkingForMyself on August 15, 2007 at 11:46 AM
I disagree. First, just because the MSM didn’t stay on top of this story until Carranza was identified as being illegal, hardly equates that the nation didn’t care. The “nation” cares about a lot of stories that the MSM ignores.
Most importantly, it’s apparent by Geraldo’s ignorant comment that he doesn’t watch FoxNews because I saw this being covered daily before Carranza was ever known. I recall several stories and the question being “who could have done this?”
Geraldo is dishonest, because he is pushing a “personal” agenda on illegals.
moonsbreath on August 15, 2007 at 12:14 PM
If Al Capone were an illegal immigrant, Geraldo would have avoided his vault. Why doesn’t this moron go back to revealing our troop positions in the sand and shut the hell up?!
thejackal on August 15, 2007 at 1:15 PM
No, Shep Smith is the DLC/Hillary Clinton token.
Geraldo is the DemocraticUnderground/DailyKos token.
They’re both awesome! (I actually suspect they’re both Rovian double agents, but don’t tell)
Professor Blather on August 14, 2007 at 11:52 PM
Amen
MarkB on August 15, 2007 at 1:32 PM
Moonsbreath,
When Im talking about “everyone didn’t care” it was referring to the MSN and their lot (considering that is basically the topic), not the people of this nation because THEY OBVIOUSLY DIDN’T KNOW. And FoxNews is hardly EVERYONE, and is the only major outlet that did continue reporting it from day one.
The rest of the MSN which, by understanding does not include FoxNews (because many see them as rightwinged), didn’t give a rats ass about it until the information he is an illegal came out. Most of the nation does care but only when they have been informed, and most will not go out of their way to find out the truth to be honest, apathy has a very strong hold to the most of the people in this country.
The MSN doesn’t like to report too much on minority crime against good people because they are afraid of being cast as racist. FoxNews is the only major network that dare to step over that line, which I am very happy they do and is probably why MM and ilk sit in for Bill and go on their programs. The MSN wont touch them, or very rarely do and when they do, they still walk on eggshells about it.
And you are very right, Geraldo is pushing his personal agenda regarding illegals, but it doesn’t negate the fact of what is happening… hell even Bill admitted to the fact that NO ONE BOTHERED ABOUT THIS CASE UNTIL IT WAS KNOWN HE WAS AN ILLEGAL… Why the hell weren’t people kicking and screaming because he was let out on bail after raping a child!! That is what we need!! We need to get even madder at these judges who are not only letting illegals out on bail who rape kids, but they are releasing child rapists who are legal with only a few days in jail as punishment!! That issue is MORE important because if we keep these bastards, illegal or not, in jail, they can’t get out and hurt anyone else, especially children.
I am just as outraged that this bastard is a criminal illegal residing in this country but I am more outraged that our judges are letting them go. And as I said, Geraldo is a punk ass Neanderthal who is not worth watching or listening to, and most of what he spews out is garbage, but in my opinion, he is right about this one. The MSN should have been outraged from day one, not only because he is an illegal but because he is a child rapist released on a reduced bail, where many like him who are legal citizens of this country are getting the same benefits from judges from all over this nation.
TFM
ThinkingForMyself on August 15, 2007 at 2:14 PM
O’Reilly vs. Geraldo: The (pseudo-intellectualized) Rematch
Teddy on August 15, 2007 at 3:09 PM
Gotta say, I still disagree. I heard about the story repeatedly on Fox, and Geraldo’s complaint about the hyping was only on cable news anyway. You think Katie Couric is pumping this story every night. Cable news covered it, and then it became a little bigger when the illegal angle was added, as it should have. The failed Shamnesty bill’s body isn’t even cold and there is a pattern going on here with deaths as a result of illegal aliens. I already laid it all out in my previous post, I think it’s just a matter of what outlets you go to and how much news you ingest in a day. Even today, with the illegal angle it hasn’t remained a huge story… mention here and there during headlines on cable news, a few commentators and bloggers who’ve adopted immigration as a pet issue… but it’s not like the big 3 and the NY Times were ignoring it, and suddenly it was revealed that he was an illegal and those dinosaurs and all the local papers in the country yelled “stop the presses!” so they could sneak the story on to the front page. It’s getting barely more play than it did pre-illegal angle, as the play now is minimal.
RightWinged on August 15, 2007 at 4:19 PM
Classic case of thinking correlation is causation. He states that NYC being a sanctuary city is the cause of a decrease in crime.
Not that the decrease may be to extra policing and targeting high crime area could it?
Wil on August 15, 2007 at 4:39 PM
I can’t even stand to click on the video link if GR is in it. You already know what he’s going to say. Why bother.
Snidely Whiplash on August 15, 2007 at 5:28 PM
RightWinged,
Did you read what I wrote or are you only reading parts of it… READ IT AGAIN.. I made it very clear that foxnews WAS THE ONLY ONE who did, the other Major News Media didn’t bother… and FoxNews is NOT considered one of them for various reasons, but the main reason as it does not conform to the same PC b/s that is saturated in the MSN.
Fox is considered to be too right winged.. you should understand what that means since it is what you call yourself, and many folks don’t consider them to be a “reliable” source for news because of that stance. The major networks are too damned afraid to bring these things up because they fear the “R” word more than putting out the truth.
Only because immigration is such a hot topic now did they even mention it, which is a shame. And that is what I see Geraldo bringing up. The MSN doesn’t really give a damn that he is an illegal, but only because its a hot subject now they pick it up… thats hypocrisy to the fullest extent. And again this is what Geraldo is pointing out, at least this is what I can read from it.
I agree we should be outraged that another criminal illegal has been given walking papers to commit more criminal acts with, what seems to be our judges, politicians and cities blessing. But we have got to see the hypocrites for what they are as well. We need to also be outraged at the fact that our judges are letting these monsters back out on the street without finding out more about these bastards and holding them without bail!
The MSN is a political tool that jumps on a bandwagon only when they see they can make a buck selling a story, and it wasn’t a story until it was found out he was an illegal. They don’t really care about his illegal status, but only because it is a hot topic they report it. This sort of hypocrisy has got to stop.
I know Geraldo is against fighting for better immigration control and getting rid of sanctuary cities, and attacking illegals by better border protection, but we also have to do something about our judges as well, and this judge should be held accountable for letting this monster back out on the street, as well as any judge who has done the same in Ohio and other recent child rape cases.
And I think Geraldo needs to wake the **** up to reality and the security of this country, but I dont see that happening anytime soon, the same with Jessie Jackson and Sharpton. They are all political grandstanding racists in my opinion.
TFM
ThinkingForMyself on August 15, 2007 at 5:49 PM
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