Video: “Child Beater”
posted at 8:28 am on August 14, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Via Belch, this one’s months old but I’m going to recommend it to Mary K for her next “policing the ‘Net” segment with Bill. Not because there’s anything wrong with it but it’ll be fun to see them clash over it.
Three dragons enter, one dragon leaves. (Okay, two.)
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I feel like a Kung Fool for watching the whole thing. I will now Karate chop myself for doing so….Hiiiiiii ya.
soulsirkus on August 14, 2007 at 8:41 AM
FATALITY!!
urbancenturion on August 14, 2007 at 8:42 AM
WOW!
Those kids have a good Thai kick!
Sensei Ern on August 14, 2007 at 8:45 AM
Hey, I’ve always wondered–is it a problem if comments are totally pointless and/or stupid? Cause bloggers seem to like comments, and even a pointless/stupid comment is a comment.
Alex K on August 14, 2007 at 8:45 AM
Not fatality…Babality
liberrocky on August 14, 2007 at 8:53 AM
Maybe these kids could get together for a play date with Will Farrell’s daughter.
These kids are going to be a handful by the time they reach Kindergarten. Aren’t they a little young to learn “It’s okay to kick Daddy, but not your friends or teacher”?
Buy Danish on August 14, 2007 at 9:14 AM
Amazingly, no. Human babies are much smarter than you would think.
jjjen on August 14, 2007 at 9:24 AM
LOL!! That was funny and even the sound effects were clever.
Yakko77 on August 14, 2007 at 9:26 AM
That was hilarious!
StephC on August 14, 2007 at 9:43 AM
The comments usually match the story line…
At least that’s my general MO.
Mcguyver on August 14, 2007 at 9:45 AM
I laughed sooo hard it hurt…
“Candy?”
“ahah fooled ya again”
Kaptain Amerika on August 14, 2007 at 9:49 AM
Good one. Very similar to what I wanted to do to the father of 2 uncontrollable children at the barbershop yesterday. My dad had a surefire way to get me to behave at the barber; only had to do it once. When I was in the chair, he had the barber shave my head (one of my phobias as a child) I cried all afternoon but never acted like a spastic a**hole (at least at the barbershop) again.
austinnelly on August 14, 2007 at 9:50 AM
oh and BTW that place liveleak is a terrorist, Censorship, Youtube on Crack cesspool… you shouldn’t link to their propaganda tool.
Kaptain Amerika on August 14, 2007 at 9:51 AM
Funny stuff… I liked it.
Maxx on August 14, 2007 at 9:54 AM
ok I’m stupid it was on youtube…
Kaptain Amerika on August 14, 2007 at 9:55 AM
Amazingly, no. Human babies are much smarter than you would think.
jjjen on August 14, 2007 at 9:24 AM
I know all about how smart children are. I have a very smart 13 year old boy who was a very smart “human baby”.
There is a difference between wrestling with dad and the over the top stuff that is in this video. When you wrestle you also teach boundaries to your kid, like no hitting in the face and head, and no kicking. Just like when kids play with toy guns you are supposed to teach them not to aim them at people.
Or maybe that is so last Century?
Sorry, but I don’t see the humor in this video.
Buy Danish on August 14, 2007 at 9:55 AM
When I met you, I was but the learner. Now I am the master.
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2007 at 9:59 AM
Great Video. Father and kids having fun doing what they do best-being together to share their time and moves with each other.
However, because those of the left can not see the truth-sharing and caring-in anything have probably already put his name on a pedophile or abusers watchlist.
They should be watchful because they could be cited for failure to possess a sense of humor or humanity in the ‘real world’.
MSGTAS on August 14, 2007 at 10:00 AM
Hmmm… so how do ya play army then? Crap, my kids had squirt guns, dart guns, and airsoft and paintball guns…
But they do know the difference between toy and real.
Romeo13 on August 14, 2007 at 10:05 AM
That was funny.
elBarto on August 14, 2007 at 10:08 AM
Children learning the martial arts are taught responsibility, self-control and discipline. It’s not simply about kicking and punching.
I’ve seen children around this age being trained in Taekwon-Do so I know from experience it’s central to their lessons.
TheBigOldDog on August 14, 2007 at 10:11 AM
Who is this guy? Nice house and nice family.
Blake on August 14, 2007 at 10:40 AM
I waited until my son was eight to start him in karate, and I will I had started him a couple years younger. After a little over two years of group and individual instruction he will test for his first-brown shortly. Then things REALLY get tough.
I highly recommend it.
Oh yeah, cute flick.
doufree on August 14, 2007 at 10:43 AM
I am not saying that kids shouldn’t wrestle or play with guns. Indeed, it is part of the learning process – precisely because you also teach them boundaries at the same time.
I have a huge problem with Moonbat parents who won’t let their kids play with toy guns because they think it teaches them to be violent. However, you have to teach them where to draw the line – like not shooting the humongous water gun right into another child’s eyes, hitting someone from behind, or… kicking a kid in the head.
At this age they are more apt to imitate bad behavior than reason that “even though daddy kicks me in the head, I can’t do that to my friends or teacher”.
As for teaching them Martial Arts, which I have no problem with as long as it is age-appropriate, do you honestly think these kids have the reasoning ability at that age to absorb these ethics?
There is also a difference between being taught to fight as part of a discipline, and playing around in the backyard with Daddy.
Buy Danish on August 14, 2007 at 10:47 AM
Got 2 kids, boys, 15 & 2. Rough housing is good, it teaches them to take some bumps and bruises and stay in the mix. If a kid never sees a punch coming at his face in play, he will flich and cower when one comes at him for real.
In our family martial arts is a way of life, they grow up around it on a daily basis. They heavy bags, mats and padded weapons are their toys. Just as they know not to jam their crayon into their playmates eye, they also know not to throw a yoko geri kekomi into a playmates face.
We play with toy guns, swords, bo staffs etc, and we teach them to aim at their intended target, otherwise I’d have to *un-teach* them bad habits when the time comes to transition them to the real deal. Gun control means having a steady hand in our house. Just as a tiger cub learns his survival skills through play acting with his parents, so too do our kids.
We’re a sheep dog family, not for everyone but it’s who we are. Got the oldest boy a BB gun at age 8, a .22 at 10 and he could feild strip my CAR-15 by age 12. Wife’s a Sho-dan, I’m a Go-dan in GOJU RYU. Even the family pet is a work dog, 90 lb Doby, cropped & docked.
Alden Pyle on August 14, 2007 at 10:51 AM
I’d like to see these guys take on Billy Quan.
Mind You Manners, sucka.
Editor on August 14, 2007 at 10:53 AM
I’d be curious as to what MM thinks of this.
I just re-watched the video and see that the dad also kicks one of the kids in the stomach, and repeatedly kicks a kid in the butt. Yes, I realize that he isn’t really kicking them)
Is that an acceptable part of Martial Arts discipline for toddlers? I rather doubt it.
Buy Danish on August 14, 2007 at 11:14 AM
Ethics are simply teaching the difference between right and wrong, we all do that with kids regardless of their age, so, yeah I think they get it, even at 2, they principly know good vs bad behavior.
Alden Pyle on August 14, 2007 at 11:16 AM
uh, he isn’t diciplining them, he’s horsing around in the backyard. I’ve taught Martial Arts for 27 years, he’s doing ok with his kids.
Alden Pyle on August 14, 2007 at 11:22 AM
Every kid I’ve seen has. I can only speculate why (maybe because they learn to emulate their instructors who are seasoned black-belts?), but I know from experience that they do. In my experience, destructive, violent kids are the ones who have no discipline or self-control and the martial arts are all about self-control.
My sense from watching the video is Daddy’s a black belt and has been training his kids. This was playful choreography which is a big part of martial arts training.
TheBigOldDog on August 14, 2007 at 11:30 AM
Um, if he really kicked them, they’d be dead.
In martial arts you strike all the time w/o really hitting. It’s all controlled choreography.
TheBigOldDog on August 14, 2007 at 11:36 AM
uh, he isn’t diciplining them, he’s horsing around in the backyard.
Alden Pyle,
Uh, “Discipline” as in The “Martial Arts discipline” does not mean to “discipline your children”.
It means
Sheesh.
Buy Danish on August 14, 2007 at 11:39 AM
Neither I nor my brothers had any martial arts training or horseplay. Nevertheless, we still hit, punched, kicked each other. I doubt martial arts makes you more violent at that age. Kids are going to be kids.
Blake on August 14, 2007 at 11:39 AM
BigOldDog,
I realize that, and only noted it preemptively so I wouldn’t have to listen to someone inevitably chirping in and telling me that “he wasn’t really kicking them”.
I believe we are at an impasse, but for the record I do agree with you on most other things!
Buy Danish on August 14, 2007 at 11:49 AM
Neither I nor my brothers had any martial arts training or horseplay. Nevertheless, we still hit, punched, kicked each other. I doubt martial arts makes you more violent at that age. Kids are going to be kids.
Blake on August 14, 2007 at 11:39 AM
Blake,
Fist of all, Martial Arts is not “horseplay”. It is a discipline. Unless you are saying you never engaged in any horseplay at all, which would be unusual, to say the least.
Of course kids are kids and do this stuff to each other, but that is not the same thing as having your father teach you to kick people in the head – at an age where you are unlikely to be able to differentiate between playing with daddy and playing in the sandbox with your friends.
I have never claimed that Martial Arts makes you more violent. I do claim that these kids are too young and are being taught behavior that they are apt to emulate with their friends – outside of the Martial Arts classroom (or in this case, outside of their own backyard).
Buy Danish on August 14, 2007 at 11:57 AM
Yes, I would say that they have the reasoning ability.
I’m passing this video to my 3 boys (12 & 9 yr old twins). Our rule was quite simple…Time-Out rules all. We’ve been in the middle of “4 go in, 1 comes out”, flips, twists, etc.
SOOOO much fun. The reality & honesty of the answer is that it all depends on the parent(s). I’ve seen completely out of control kids hitting others, acting up, etc. As for myself, in a “controlled” environment, makes for lots of bonding between myself and my sons.
P.S. As my oldest son bought boxing gloves for both of us, he’s quite proud to say, “I hit Dad in the nose and gave him a bloody nose”. Needless to say, he learned how to uppercut and I didn’t quite realize that he did. Guess what, I do now :-)). It’s all in good fun though and he’s learning self defense at the same time.
HarryStar on August 14, 2007 at 12:07 PM
I find it difficult to criticize anybody who is genuinely concerned for children as you obviously are. I think you’d be a lot more comfortable with what you saw if you had some martial arts training and/or sat through some kids classes. It’s not nearly as bad as it looks. If I thought it was, I’d be on your side 100%.
TheBigOldDog on August 14, 2007 at 12:18 PM
We didn’t need anyone to teach us how to kick each other in the head — we were born with the knowledge. These kids are not going to be anymore violent than most kids. Probably a lot less since they have a father in their lives that spends time with them.
Blake on August 14, 2007 at 12:30 PM
I teach my four year old granddaughter how to fight. But, I only teach her moves that she can effectively do, such as gouging the eyes, using an object to the teeth and groin.
Another thing I am drilling into her head is, “If a guy asks you out on a date, you tell them that they have to ask Grandpa first.”
Sensei Ern on August 14, 2007 at 12:53 PM
I teach them the proper use of guns…granted toy guns until they learn right from wrong, but the same training…”Shoot them a second time to make sure they are dead.”
Sensei Ern on August 14, 2007 at 12:54 PM
Two more Republicans for the party.
Where’s the “Kung Fu Fighting” song soundtrack?
Mojave Mark on August 14, 2007 at 1:19 PM
HarryStar,
These kids aren’t 9 and 12 years old like your kids. They are clearly 6 (if that)and under.
BigOldDog,
I’ll have to take your word for it! I don’t see how this Dad is going to be able to convince children at that age that it’s okay to do this to family members but not to playmates.
Buy Danish on August 14, 2007 at 1:25 PM
I have no martial arts training, but i have 2 daughters (3, but the 7 month old doesn’t count in this instance) ages 5 and 7 and they LOVE playing with me like that. I do to. There’s a certain trust level when playing with dad like that as opposed to any one else. I think the video is very sweet in addition to being very funny
mattshu on August 14, 2007 at 1:29 PM
It certainly contained a number of suppressed giggles and smiles.
Blake on August 14, 2007 at 1:33 PM
mattshu,
Do your roll around with them and wrestle, or do you kick them in the head and stomach?
Buy Danish on August 14, 2007 at 1:33 PM
I started wrestling, horsing around when they were the same age (probably a big younger). The thing is, if you teach them boundaries when they’re younger, they’ll retain them as they grow up (i.e. Stop means stop, none of this, that, etc).
As far as teaching them that it’s OK with family members and not with playmates, it’s really quite easy.
(No, I’m not being sarcastic either BuyDanish) “Guys, this is just something that we do. You DO NOT do this with anybody else in school otherwise we can’t wrestle anymore.”
Again, every parent is different along with every child. Many times it depends on how the children were raised, boundaries, etc. What one person considers “wrong” doesn’t necessarily make it so.
I was just reminded about when I took my children flying with me in a Cessna 172 (They were 5,5 & 8). Many of my wifes friends thought I was crazy, how could you let that happen, it’s so dangerous, etc, etc.
It all depends on your point of view.
I was just t
HarryStar on August 14, 2007 at 1:35 PM
HarryStar,
Please go back to my earlier comments. I have already stated that wrestling and playing with toy guns is good precisely because it teaches boundaries.
However, kicking people in the head and stomach is outside of what I would consider normal boundaries, particularly when taught to children who are toddlers.
Indeed, if my kid ever tried to do that the wrestling game would stop immediately. That’s not what I’m seeing in this video.
Buy Danish on August 14, 2007 at 1:45 PM
I don’t hit or kick at all.
But neither does the dad in this video. He is barely touching them and they are clearly acting along with it.
By your logic (any touching with the hand or foot is bad) we must reprimand the kids. After all, one of them punched their dad what must have been 40 times in the leg. Wow, that’s a dangerous child. (/sarc)
mattshu on August 14, 2007 at 1:50 PM
mattshu,
PLEASE go back and read the previous comments. I am not going to waste my time by rewriting everything I have already said.
That being said, comparing what a child does to a father to what a father does to a child as if they are somehow equivalent actions is a bit bizarre.
Buy Danish on August 14, 2007 at 1:56 PM
You’ve already wasted my time, you might as well go waste your own by rewriting everything you’ve already said.
mattshu on August 14, 2007 at 1:58 PM
Watch the video more closely. He doesn’t kick them in the head, he pulls the kick short and then knocks them over with his toes. Note how when he flips them, he’s careful to support the head until they’re back on the ground. I suspect that the kids were acting and making the hits look more dramatic as well. The kids understood that they were being video taped (my kids knew was that was by the time they were two years old). That’s not to mention the sound effects make it all seem far more violent than it really was.
Annoying Old Guy on August 14, 2007 at 2:39 PM
The second one is funny too. He used a 2×2 piece of lumber on the skulls of those kids. Hilarity ensues!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEotMbRfDvA
BelchSpeak on August 14, 2007 at 2:40 PM
Annoying Guy (et al),
Here is an excerpt from one of my previous comments which if you had read would have saved you having to tell me that the father wasn’t really kicking the kids:
BigOldDog,
I realize that, and only noted it preemptively so I wouldn’t have to listen to someone inevitably chirping in and telling me that “he wasn’t really kicking them”.
Buy Danish on August 14, 2007 at 11:49 AM
Buy Danish on August 14, 2007 at 2:46 PM
All you need to know about dragons.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dKR_44eDf1M
RightWinged on August 14, 2007 at 4:24 PM
I used to play fight with my kids all the time. There were many fake throws, punches and kicks. There were also many time outs to let the laughter subside before we could continue. Sure sometimes they got a little overzealous and daddy took one on the chin or in the family jewels, but I always knew that might happen.
They were also taught that there were limits and they were expected to stay within them unless they were threatened. Play like that shown in the video is not harmful at all. It’s just some fun rough housing with dad.
Kowboy on August 14, 2007 at 5:20 PM
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