Video: Good news — world’s drunk-driving problems solved
posted at 4:34 pm on August 13, 2007 by Allahpundit
Better than any law, although the idea of a machine rendering moral judgment on its owner creeps me out. How about a compromise: a warning if you’re above .08 and transmission shutdown at, say, .14, with any dashboard computer evidence usable at trial?
Coming soon: cigarette packs that don’t open beyond certain levels of nicotine detectable in your fingerprints. Click the image to watch.











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Can’t we just have a car where we can just tell it where we want to go and it’s goes? That way I can do my real life Foster Brooks imitation, without imitation and intimidation by my car.
Kini on August 13, 2007 at 4:38 PM
So when do they wrap us all up in fluffy cocoons to protect us from ourselves and each other?
crazy_legs on August 13, 2007 at 4:39 PM
What is next, machines to check the Sheryl Crow Law? They already have the 5 square machine.
Wade on August 13, 2007 at 4:40 PM
All this technology they put in a car and it still can’t make the perfect martini.
Kini on August 13, 2007 at 4:46 PM
Actually, this would be good news if and when the car can pick up the kids, get the groceries, and change it’s own oil.
Kini on August 13, 2007 at 4:48 PM
Amen, brother!
heatherrc77 on August 13, 2007 at 4:49 PM
I’d like to hear what someone who has lost a loved one to a driver registering say .1 thinks of this.
PatrickS on August 13, 2007 at 4:54 PM
I don’t condone driving under the influence but it seems to me that this is yet another example of providing “help” for our own good. Forget cigarette packs, condom wrappers that detect the presence is the next obvious use of this technology!
highhopes on August 13, 2007 at 4:56 PM
You mean, no more backseat…., driving?
Kini on August 13, 2007 at 5:00 PM
I agree, which makes me uneasy.
Besides, who would buy this aside from parents who are buying their kid a new car? I’m not saying others would be against it, but I certainly wouldn’t pay extra for it.
Esthier on August 13, 2007 at 5:01 PM
Two questions:
Since she was drunk during the story; did the camera man hit on her? If so, was he successful? She was kinda cute.
Does it creep anyone else out to see the steering wheel on the other side of the car? It’s like bizarro world.
I dont think we should be criminalizing (or attempting to criminalize everyone. Just like cameras in the streets, it presupposes everyone is a criminal and needs to be monitored.
lorien1973 on August 13, 2007 at 5:19 PM
This is about one thing and one thing, only – the incremental conditioning of the individual to the presence of the State in every facet of our lives. The ultimate aim of the State is the total surveillance of the individual. Surveillance = control.
Orwell saw this coming – the presence of a Telescreen in every home. The State will monitor everything. Just stay within sight of the Telescreen – that’s all that the State will demand of you.
And, what’s wrong with that? Why, if you haven’t done anything wrong, what are you worried about?
I can hear it, now.
OhEssYouCowboys on August 13, 2007 at 5:26 PM
As would I. I am sure they have much more moral authority than those who have lost love ones to sober drivers.
phelps on August 13, 2007 at 5:27 PM
don’t they already have panties for girls that let parents monitor the temperature down there and if it gets too hot, lets them know?
http://forgetmenotpanties.com/
lorien1973 on August 13, 2007 at 5:27 PM
I certainly agree that governments pass plenty of stupid laws (mandatory motorcycle helmets spring to mind), but when 15,000+ people a year are killed by people who hadn’t the judgment to not drive, I’m open to solutions. Perhaps court-ordered cases for repeat offenders is a reasonable application.
PatrickS on August 13, 2007 at 5:29 PM
Ohh, yeah, carrr? If yerrrr so shmart, wha donn youuuu drive ush hom?
askheaves on August 13, 2007 at 5:33 PM
“Hand me those wire cutters, Fred…”
mojo on August 13, 2007 at 5:35 PM
PatrickS,
About 45,000 die each year in automobile crashes. And then we have about over 4,000 that die each year from motorcycle crashes. Helmet is the only protective item that helps prevent your head becoming like a squashed melon. Let a 6 year old kid swing a baseball bat at your head and see if you can survive the equivalent of a 15-mph crash to the pavement using your head.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_motorcycle_deaths_in_U.S._by_year
Kokonut on August 13, 2007 at 5:37 PM
That’s not real.
Just try to make a purchase, and it’ll be clear.
Esthier on August 13, 2007 at 5:38 PM
I certainly agree that governments pass plenty of stupid laws (mandatory motorcycle helmets spring to mind), but when 15,000+ people a year are killed by people who hadn’t the judgment to not drive, I’m open to solutions.
PatrickS on August 13, 2007 at 5:29 PM
What a wonderful argument for disarming the People. After all, lots of people are killed by guns in the possession of “people who hadn’t the judgment” to use them properly. Once again – this is all about the incremental conditioning of the People, to the total presence of the State in their lives. Congratulations, you’ve just made my point.
OhEssYouCowboys on August 13, 2007 at 5:40 PM
My differentiation is that the helmet protects the cyclist from his/her own stupidity….but this device is intended to protect the drunk and the innocents out on the road….or sidewalk.
PatrickS on August 13, 2007 at 5:41 PM
Don’t pull that chickenshit liberal tactic of selectively quoting there….read the end of my comment as well. I’m all for disarming repeat firearm offenders as well.
PatrickS on August 13, 2007 at 5:43 PM
Forget repeat offenders, first offenders should have that as well.
The best thing I’ve seen though is something a co-worker was subjected to. For his third DUI (I have no idea why he wasn’t jailed) he was forced to take a pill with doctor supervision twice daily.
It made you severely sick if you tried to drink, and it must have worked too, because during the entire time he was on that pill I never saw a drink in his hand, which was highly uncharacteristic.
Unfortunately, now that he’s off of it, he seems to be back to drinking as though nothing’s changed. Then again, I’m not a close friend and have no idea if he’s driven drunk, so I could be wrong.
That may be the case, but this isn’t even a case of law that protects anyone except for the person too stupid to wear a helmet unless forced to by law.
It’s like outlawing running with scissors.
Esthier on August 13, 2007 at 5:45 PM
See, now that’d be a lot different. That’s a punishment that fits a crime. Putting this into cars where the occupant has no history of driving under the influence is not right in any sense. If its an optional feature; that’s a different story. I might buy one if I had a teen. But forcing it in there without a choice or mandating it through law; no way sukka.
lorien1973 on August 13, 2007 at 5:46 PM
Don’t pull that cowardly liberal tactic of selectively quoting there, sport. Read the rest of my comment. I’m all for disarming repeat firearm offenders as well.
PatrickS on August 13, 2007 at 5:46 PM
This does nothing about the repeat offender. I mean, we outlawed murder and it worked so well. If someone is going to drive drunk, their car is not going to stop them. The claim this will eliminate drunk driving is just down right dumb. Air bags save lives but people are still dying in accidents. Nice try.
On-my-soap-box on August 13, 2007 at 5:47 PM
You know, there’s a fine line between reasonable concerns and paranoia. It seems to me that you got to the line, looked both ways, and started running. Do you look under your bed for CIA agents before going to sleep?
c6gunner on August 13, 2007 at 5:50 PM
Bless your heart.
PatrickS on August 13, 2007 at 5:51 PM
Don’t pull that cowardly liberal tactic of selectively quoting there, sport. Read the rest of my comment. I’m all for disarming repeat firearm offenders as well.
PatrickS on August 13, 2007 at 5:46 PM
No, “sport,” You’re simply too ignorant to understand the ramifications of your conditioning. It’s cattle like you who don’t understand the concept of incrementalism. You’re too ignorant to see the train coming down the track. You just keep chewing your cud – Sport. The cattle car is coming.
OhEssYouCowboys on August 13, 2007 at 5:51 PM
Do you drink and drive, Sport? You seem very worried, or as c6gunner noted, paranoid, that this might become a reality.
PatrickS on August 13, 2007 at 5:54 PM
Well, if your car won’t start for drunk drivers, I kinda imagine that it would prevent a drunk from driving drunk.
If everyone in the world had a car that wouldn’t allow them to drive drunk, then yes, it would completely eliminate drunk driving.
Esthier on August 13, 2007 at 5:55 PM
Lets just cut to the chase and implant cameras right up the keester at birth. 0% crime rate guaranteed!
ronsfi on August 13, 2007 at 5:55 PM
So you don’t believe that drivers who’ve already had a DUI should be kept from being able to drive their car while drunk?
I really don’t see your sense there.
Esthier on August 13, 2007 at 5:58 PM
Do you drink and drive, Sport? You seem very worried, or as c6gunner noted, paranoid, that this might become a reality.
PatrickS on August 13, 2007 at 5:54 PM
I don’t drink, period – Sport. I just don’t trust any Government who is given total access to our lives by cud chewing cattle like you.
OhEssYouCowboys on August 13, 2007 at 5:58 PM
We could always bring back Prohibition!!
*runs away*
RushBaby on August 13, 2007 at 5:59 PM
Ya know, if I can’t find an angle to get in on these carbon credits, bootlegging might just be the way to some fast cash.
PatrickS on August 13, 2007 at 6:03 PM
Esthier on August 13, 2007 at 5:58 PM
What makes you think that this device will only be limited to those who’ve had drinking and driving contacts? Could it be that people who don’t drink and drive will be forced by the State to have such devices installed in their cars – whether they want them installed or not? Could it be that, after the cattle are completely conditioned to such devices being forcibly installed in their cars, they won’t have a problem with alcohol monitoring devices being made mandatory in their homes, too?
After all, there are so many drunks, in so many homes.
OhEssYouCowboys on August 13, 2007 at 6:07 PM
Esthier
It is illegal for a felon to own a handgun but that does not stop a felon who wants a handgun. If a person wants to drive drunk, they will just buy some old junker which is pre-smartcar. This will not stop a repeat offender. It is like locking your doors. Locks keep an honest person out. This car is designed for the average person who would do the right thing.
On-my-soap-box on August 13, 2007 at 6:15 PM
Worked for the Kennedys! Count me in!
RushBaby on August 13, 2007 at 6:17 PM
lol
Seriously, you sound like Alex Jones. It’s insane.
“Could it be that politicians meet at Bohemian Grove? Could it be that they sacrifice children? Could it be they want to take away your children???!! Could it be they’re building FEMA deathcamps? ARGH!! SATANISM!! AMERO!!! TRANSNORTHAMERICASUPERHIGHWAY!! FASCISTDEMOCRATCOMMIEPINGOPIGSWATCHINGUSONBABYMONITORS!!! BUY GUNS!! THE END IS COMMING!!!”
c6gunner on August 13, 2007 at 6:18 PM
“The well intentioned” are the greatest threat to Liberty a free society faces. It’s all very reasonable. Liberty is not reasonable. It is innate.
ronsfi on August 13, 2007 at 6:18 PM
Notice the seatbelt tightening? Christine anyone?
- The Cat
P.S. I wonder if anyone of them thought about what happens if a driver gets alcohol on their hands after it’s in gear? I only ask this because I know to many engineers. They never think about what happens when something unexpected happens and the whole system comes crashing down about them.
MirCat on August 13, 2007 at 6:24 PM
I could live with this up until the point they decide they need to stick a sensor up the wazoo. Then I’m outta there!
csdeven on August 13, 2007 at 6:25 PM
“The well intentioned” are the greatest threat to Liberty a free society faces. It’s all very reasonable. Liberty is not reasonable. It is innate.
ronsfi on August 13, 2007 at 6:18 PM
ronsfi, these cattle are immune to logic. They are Statists. Privacy means nothing to them. The individual means nothing to them. An unfettered State means nothing to them. They trust the State, and they – not the State – are the greatest threat to our liberties. The State will only have as much power as the People will voluntarily hand it. De Tocqueville said it best – “beware the tyranny of the majority.”
The ignorant are the greatest threat to our liberties.
OhEssYouCowboys on August 13, 2007 at 6:27 PM
Alcoa called. Your hats are ready.
PatrickS on August 13, 2007 at 6:29 PM
I don’t, but that’s what was specifically being discussed here by people you were calling cows. They were only arguing that the device be used on repeat offenders.
I’m sorry, but the logic doesn’t fly there. Most drunk drivers don’t go out wanting to drive drunk. The intent isn’t to drive drunk but merely to drink and not have to pay for a ride home.
You’re making it sound like people actually go out of their way to drive drunk instead of just being stupid.
Besides, if ALL cars have this device, even old junkers, then short of drunks making their own combustible engines, drunk driving WILL be eliminated, which is really what I already said.
Esthier on August 13, 2007 at 6:30 PM
I wonder if the insurance companies will lower their premiums after they start realising less claims against them? I doubt it. This is an insurance companies wet dream if all of us were made to drive these new cars.
bdog2995 on August 13, 2007 at 6:30 PM
Why do you doubt it? Insurance companies already offer discounts for vehicles with theft deterrent systems, so why wouldn’t they offer a discount for a vehicle equipped with this device?
c6gunner on August 13, 2007 at 6:34 PM
And you would be the voice of authority here then?
Seriously, lighten up. No one wanted this installed everywhere and at best argued for putting them in the cars of repeat offenders, something you act as though you didn’t realize, which can only be true if you are willfully ignorant, reading only portions of comments and responding blindly.
Esthier on August 13, 2007 at 6:34 PM
You even get a discount for taking defensive driving.
Esthier on August 13, 2007 at 6:35 PM
As far as the stickshift detecting alcohol in sweat/ has anyone ever heard of gloves or plastic baggies? HA HA and it will be a matter of time b4 someone figures out a breathing apparatus that you can stick in your mouth and run the hose out your cracked window. I doubt very seriously this stuff will work against someone determined to drive while intoxicated. The sad part is that you can’t even go to a wedding reception anymore or party and have a couple of drinks without being considered intoxicated. They have lowered the breathalyzer rating so low now that you can get a DWI and not really be intoxicated. It happens to people all the time.
bdog2995 on August 13, 2007 at 6:36 PM
Tin foil is no defense against a conspiracy of dunces.
Oh and your ass called…your hat is ready.
ronsfi on August 13, 2007 at 6:36 PM
c6gunner and esthier
what I meant was an across the board reduction in all insurance premiums not just for me if I own an alcohol resistant vehicle. I probably should have worded it differently. But can you imagine the profits the insurance companies will make if there were no more alcohol related accidents?
bdog2995 on August 13, 2007 at 6:39 PM
I’m not trying to say this is a good thing, but come on, do you really think drunks put that much thought into their driving? If they were capable of such thoughts they wouldn’t be a danger to the rest of us.
In fact, I’d be happy with just a set of multiplication problems. If you can solve for x and y, then you’re probably good enough to drive even if you have had a couple.
Esthier on August 13, 2007 at 6:40 PM
What?
Ah, I see. Then again, I can imagine that eventually those would change as well if everyone got one of those things, but yeah I misunderstood you.
Esthier on August 13, 2007 at 6:42 PM
Alcoa called. Your hats are ready.
PatrickS on August 13, 2007 at 6:29 PM
Great response. You just keep chewing your cud in the field, and trusting the State with your liberties. In fact, give up the Bill of Rights completely – just be sure and obey the State. All the State has to say, to cattle like you – is that’s it’s in your best interests – and cattle like you will obey.
And you had the gall to call me a “liberal.”
OhEssYouCowboys on August 13, 2007 at 6:43 PM
I would venture to say that if a parent bought one of these cars for their 17 yr ols son who likes to party on the weekends and sat at home and patted each other on the back thinking we have solved the problem we can sleep now and not worry. You would find that the kid could think of all kinds of ways to do work-arounds on this type of vehicle. I can’t imagine an alcoholic buying on of these cars but if he was forced to drive one he would resort to any tactic that could provide him transportation and his alcohol.
bdog2995 on August 13, 2007 at 6:45 PM
Esthier on August 13, 2007 at 6:34 PM
It would appear that the concept of “incrementalism” and the elimination of our liberties – evades people like you.
And that – is my point.
OhEssYouCowboys on August 13, 2007 at 6:47 PM
You’re right. I apologize. You seem much more like a paranoid right wing extremist who I’ll see on the Nightly News some evening in a shootout over some perceived rights violation.
P.S. Moo.
PatrickS on August 13, 2007 at 6:48 PM
Ofcourse there wouldn’t be an “across the board reduction”. That wouldn’t make any sense unless ALL cars were equipped with these devices.
As for profit, you seem to believe in some “conspiracy of insurers”. Allow me to assure you that, in a free market, things don’t work that way. Individual companies would see a temporary rise in profits, after which rates would be adjusted downwards. Why? Because any time you have a market where prices are overinflated, you have a business opportunity for new startups offering lower prices, as well as having an incentive for individual companies to lower rates in order to steal customers away from their competitors. Your concept of price-fixing only works when one or a small number of companies have a monopolistic hold over a market.
c6gunner on August 13, 2007 at 6:51 PM
You’re right. I apologize. You seem much more like a paranoid right wing extremist who I’ll see on the Nightly News some evening in a shootout over some perceived rights violation.
P.S. Moo.
PatrickS on August 13, 2007 at 6:48 PM
And you seem much more like an imbecile, completely stupefied as to how a Government without restraint, comes into existence.
OhEssYouCowboys on August 13, 2007 at 6:52 PM
Bless your heart :)
c6gunner on August 13, 2007 at 6:53 PM
You mean the USSR came into power through anti-drinking-and-driving devices?
Gee.
Whodathunk.
c6gunner on August 13, 2007 at 6:54 PM
Drunks don’t have to drink socially. They can get their alcohol and go home. Once they’ve got their alcohol, the need to figure out how to then drive the car would be severely diminished.
As far as teens go, sure they could scheme ways to get around it, or they could just spend the night somewhere they know they can drink; that’s what I did as a teen. It’s really simple and doesn’t require anything complicated that might do serious harm to the vehicle.
But by that same logic, they might also hot wire a car because they’re teens and can probably figure it out.
Esthier on August 13, 2007 at 6:55 PM
No, they won’t outlaw smoking in bars, that’d be an intrusion of the property rights of the owner. Oops.
They wouldn’t force you to wear a seat belt, it’s just a good idea; not an imposition. Oops.
They aren’t going to force you to wear a helmet on your motorcycle, they’re just recommending it. Oops.
But surely they won’t pass Bicycle helmet laws… that’d be excessive…
http://www.helmets.org/mandator.htm
Oops again.
Name a piece of safety equipment, made more than 20 years ago, in use today, that isn’t mandated for use in at least several areas of the country.
Short list? Now, for the argument that will win the general piopulation… “Either you approve of this being on every car, or you’re just a drunk who isn’t worried about safety.”
Hey, we’ve had a variation on that argument already used in this thread. Wonderful.
So, will you respond and realize that this, with Government intervention will be mandated, or will you just call me names because you haven’t got an argument?
Somehow I expect name calling rather than any factual information to be forthcoming…
gekkobear on August 13, 2007 at 6:56 PM
Right. Punishing repeat DUI offenders will lead to BIG BROTHER!!!!!!!!!!!
I mean we do it now already, so the small screens in our homes are just days away.
Esthier on August 13, 2007 at 6:57 PM
You mean the USSR came into power through anti-drinking-and-driving devices?
Gee.
Whodathunk.
c6gunner on August 13, 2007 at 6:54 PM
No, I mean that such governments come into existence, because the citizenry are too stupid to understand that tyranny sometimes relies on the twofold onset of incrementalism and ignorance.
OhEssYouCowboys on August 13, 2007 at 6:59 PM
Ah. So what you mean is that the USSR came to power by preventing people from drinking and driving. Ok. Very interesting. How ’bout North Korea? Same thing?
c6gunner on August 13, 2007 at 7:01 PM
gekkobear on August 13, 2007 at 6:56 PM
Beautifully stated; but, as you can see, ignorance and sheer stupidity are the order of the day. These people can’t even grasp that they are proving my point.
OhEssYouCowboys on August 13, 2007 at 7:04 PM
I agree – MOST. I am talking about repeat offenders and I have made that point clear.
No, I am talking about repeat offenders who care nothing about the law.
At what point does the cost of installing the equipment in a junker make it ineffective? If the perp cannot afford it, do I pay with my tax dollars?
Point (which seems to allude you), repeat offenders will NOT follow the law and if they want to get drunk and drive off in an old clunker – they will.
Esthier on August 13, 2007 at 6:30 PM
On-my-soap-box on August 13, 2007 at 7:06 PM
c6gunner on August 13, 2007 at 7:01 PM
Once again – tyranny feeds on ignorance. And you are plating it up, very nicely.
OhEssYouCowboys on August 13, 2007 at 7:06 PM
c6gunner, the USSR didn’t come into power by attaching a locked hat with a camera to everyone’s head either.
Does that make it a good idea, and not at all a violation of your civil liberties?
I mean, hey. If you aren’t a criminal, why are you complaining about the camera in your hat. It’s not like the Government has teh manpower to watch every person every second of the day.
And why do you think your privacy is more important than finding murderers and rapists, and lost or abducted children.
Think about the children.
I mean, this would be nothing like North Korea, they don’t even have that many cameras…
Damn, you’re straw man has caught fire.. I’ll leave it alone now.
gekkobear on August 13, 2007 at 7:06 PM
No, you see we’re actually agents of the Zionist Space Lizard New Earth Communist Front (ZSLNECF, yes, I know, we need to work on a better acronym). We’re here to discredit you. Failing that, we’ll be sending black helicopters to your house shortly. You may want to grab your boomstick and backpack-o-rations, and head for the hills.
c6gunner on August 13, 2007 at 7:07 PM
Only ONE Kennedy comment????
jdkchem on August 13, 2007 at 7:10 PM
If you were to go some of the posts on this thread, you would have to believe she should have taken swimming lessons!
On-my-soap-box on August 13, 2007 at 7:12 PM
Please, just get the federal, state, and local goverments out of peoples lives. If it increases some problems that is the cost of not being part of the “nanny state”.
duff65 on August 13, 2007 at 7:30 PM
I have had that system installed for twenty years. It’s called a wife.
TheSitRep on August 13, 2007 at 8:19 PM
How about a system that locks the doors and steers into a brick wall as soon as the driver starts using a cell phone?
Hening on August 13, 2007 at 8:39 PM
lorien1973, that was a great link to the Forget Me Not Panties hoax. I’m enough of a geek to have known up front it wasn’t real but it was well done. And to others who look with fear at this technology: I have to quote Paul Harvey, something he often says regarding stories of this sort, “With freedom, comes responsibility”. If we don’t begin to show responsibility for our actions, we WILL lose freedoms. If it saves my life or the life of friends and loved ones, I’m all for it. If it saves one life or lifetime disability from a drunk driver accident, then it’s worth it. Again, ask someone who’s lost a husband, father, child to a drunk driver. If an alcoholic won’t take the responsibility, then he loses his freedom. Or should. Too many courts don’t enforce existing laws. We know of the countless testamonies of alcoholics who repeatedly get DUIs, one after the other and keep their licenses. I recall cities where a device is installed in a DUI offender’s car that does the same thing, won’t start if he/she tests over the blood alcohol limit. No, not for everyone’s cars, just the “first offender”. Nail them up front. Make them use the device. No, of course, it’s not fool proof. There are ways around anything, but, again, if it averts ONE senseless death. It’s worth it. No “big brother” paranoia, please. If we don’t take responsibility for our actions, we lose our freedoms. Period.
Roger Brown on August 13, 2007 at 9:06 PM
This reminds me a little too much of the scene in 1984 where the woman is reprimanding Winston Smith for his lack of exercise.
The Unabrewer on August 13, 2007 at 9:09 PM
That is awesome. Ten years before it is deployed? Too bad.In spite of ourselves, society may finally start seeing the carnage reduced. 16000 deaths a year from drunk driving in the US alone.
Bradky on August 13, 2007 at 9:46 PM
I got that system also, except mine keeps repeating “Stop, and ask for directions!”
Kini on August 13, 2007 at 9:53 PM
I like it. A car with a conscience.
Robo-wife.
Mojave Mark on August 14, 2007 at 1:53 AM
Fine…here you go:
I’m sorry, I missed the context here…were you talking about bootlegging or drunk driving?
James on August 14, 2007 at 7:36 AM
Let’s see: in the last decade or so we have had driver’s side airbags, passenger side airbags and most recently side curtain air bags legislatively required adding several thousand dollars to the cost of each new vehicles; we have CAFE mandates and emission mandates adding who knows how much to the cost; we now have tire pressure monitoring systems required by the feds on new vehicles adding another thousand or more to each new vehicle. There are numerous other items such as ABS and traction control systems which are being considered to be made mandatory. I have read analyses by people far smarter than be saying that as much as 25% of the cost of new cars is directly attributable to federal regulation. Why can’t you buy a new basic transportation vehicle for $7,500 anymore? The imperial federal gov’t's mandates prevent the auto industry from making a car that affordable anymore.
When seat belts, tempered safety glass, air bags, tire pressure monitoring, ABS, traction control and such were introduced they were all private industry innovations. Most all of those things are now mandated on vehicles by the imperial federal government and the rest are being considered for mandate. Sure, legislative creep doesn’t happen, right?
When seat belt laws started passing the feds encouraged all states to pass such laws. Then the feds withheld highway funds from any states that didn’t have such laws. Blackmail worked. But of course there isn’t legislative creep. So the feds said that now they want seat belt requirements to be a primary offense, something rejected by voters in most states. But again, the imperial federal gov’t used their threat of force to confiscate money from the citizens and then blackmail the states. Nope, no legislative creep there. Never happens.
Then there is the more case in point, the DUI laws. Some woman at MAAD pulled the .08 number out of her butt and started waving it around as a way to make people feel good and the feds, once again, threatened the states with withholding of highway funds unless they passed a .08 DUI limit and there ya go. I have looked for but have been unable to find a single shred of evidence that .08 does anything more than criminalize a lot more people who are no less safe than a distracted driver, eg a MAAD member with her 4 screaming kids int her SUV while she sips her double latte’ and puts on her mascara (a typical profile of the vehicles that routinely cause near collisions in my town).
Legislative creep, the steady erosion of our rights and the complete and utter disregard for State’s Rights most definitely happens.
I’ll give one more reason I would never buy one of those cars. In my immediate family in the last 6 months between 4 late model vehicles all well cared for, with less than 70,000 miles, we have spent over $3k on vehicle repairs, 90% of that for engine electronics and related labor. Can you imagine how expensive it will be to repair that vehicle. And if those sensors go out I assume that the vehicle would default to inoperable to prevent someone bypassing the system by vandalizing it. I can see it. On vacation, driving 8 hours away with the 2 kids in the backseat, in the middle of nowhere, 10 pm on a Sunday, no cell phone signal and suddenly the car shuts down. You coast off to the side of the road, car won’t even crank, stupid video tells you that there is alcohol in the car so it shut down. By 2 am the car is dropped off at the dealership and you are in the motel. By 9 am the dealership calls and tells you the sensors on your drunk driving prevention system have fried and it will be 3 days to get more in and it is going to coast $2,500.00 to make the car operable. Hurrah, happy family vacation!!! Yep, not buying a car with that retarded system on it EVER!
deepdiver on August 14, 2007 at 2:42 PM