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jaime on August 16, 2007 at 6:22 PM

Go after the criminal illegals (ie violent crime) and deport them. Then just destroy any business that hires ‘em. They’ll leave on their own.

“…creating a pathway where people can have a form of restitution to make things right, to understand that laws have to be obeyed or some consequences have to be applied.”

He believes it “makes more sense than trying to deport 12 million people or build a 700 million, ehr…700 billion dollar fence.”

Count me out for Huckabee. No Way, No How!

In real Christianity Jesus Christ is the creator of the universe. Mormons don’t approve of pesky verses like this one so they just say “Well THAT part of the bible is wrong.” How convenient. To unbelievers this is merely arcane discourse but to a Christian it’s a non-negotiable. Jesus to Mormons is merely a created being and that is anathema.

Col 1:16 For by Him all things were created, {both} in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities-all things have been created through Him and for Him.

For the record, I’d vote for Romney if he was the nominee. It’s just easier to call Christians who know their bibles bigots rather than debate them based on scripture.

Me too.

Allahpundit on August 11, 2007 at 5:53 PM

Huh. Baptist Minister, eh?

LegendHasIt on August 14, 2007 at 1:15 PM

I have never said to what, if any, faith I belong to. And you’re right about LDS people. Everyone I have ever met was a decent person. Not like these bigoted so-called “Christians”.

LegendHasIt on August 14, 2007 at 1:15 PM

I agree.

Here is one (csdeven) Legend that is not so admirable. He has a habit of misquoting and lying about posters……
right2bright on August 14, 2007 at 8:15 AM

A: I said every single one that I have KNOWN was admirable.

B: I was unaware that csdeven is a Mormon, if indeed (s?)he is. In any case, the personality that csdevin has shown here at HA is definitely not representative of any of the dozens of Mormons I have gotten to know fairly well, or the hundreds I have met in passing.

csdeven on August 14, 2007 at 11:00 AM

Okay, where did I say they accepted bribes? Another one of your lies.
I hinted that influential people can influence decisions. You don’t think influential people do. I gave you two examples (3 counting Mitt), never, ever stated bribes were involved, in fact if bribes were involved they would probably be suspended or at least have their Temple priviledges revoked. What an imagination you have.
I will accept your apology when you grow up and read.

right2bright on August 14, 2007 at 10:52 AM

Accusing the LDS church of accepting money bribes from it’s members is bigoted and ignorant.

Therefore, you are a bigot and an ignorant jerk.

csdeven on August 14, 2007 at 9:32 AM

You remind me of the Jihadists who spew their filth at Christians, and when called on it…gnash their teeth.

Questioning someone, and giving an example, is common in discussion (although apparently not in your circle). If you want to play the “victim card” go ahead, no one in this race is above reproach. Not Mitt (the “I am Mormon” card), or Fred (the “actor card”), or Rudy (the “I saved Amer. from 9/11 card), or Hillary (“I am woman, hear me roar” card), Obama (“I am black” card), McCain (“I am a war hero” card), they are all up for analysis. And we have a right to question all of their backgrounds, in detail.

But once again, I hope AP is monitoring this, if you call someone a name, better back it up or face being banned.

No more name calling. An apology would be nice. This dicussion has deterioated, to you calling names, and bigot is an obscene name. Best you stop while you can still post.

csdeven on August 14, 2007 at 9:34 AM

Rather than passing out slurs, read my posts, I never said anything negative about Mitt’s religion. You are the one bringing it up.

And you once again lump me with someone else. If you can’t be honest in your analysis, don’t post.

You don’t intimidate me, by accusing me of something I am not. Show me my “bigot” statements. Or allow yourself to be banned.

Calling someone a profane name and not backing it up should be cause for banning.

This will be the last time I educate these two on this stuff.

right2bright on August 14, 2007 at 8:28 AM

Riiiight. The point is that you have to nuance the bible now, but when it says what you want, you just accept it. Hypocrite.

Once again, point out where I said a bigoted statement.
right2bright on August 14, 2007 at 8:15 AM

No problem. Your opinions are based in bigotry. Read it and weep bigot.

He just happened to be sent to France. Hey, he not only good looking, he’s lucky. And don’t be so quick to say “it is random, they have no say where they are going”, it is a closed system of selection, you have no idea how they are picked.

Well, I have two friends (different stakes) who wanted their kids to go to South America (actually one to central and the other to South). They were big donors, their kids were lucky just like Mitt. They both ended up in Central and South America, they were not as handsome, but just as lucky.

The South American missions are where a large part of missionaries go. Their desire for their sons to go there had a better than average chance of happening for them.

find it funny as heck when you “Christians” like to claim the bible as unfallible until it says something you don’t like. Then you find all sorts of ways to nuance it.
Spare me.
csdeven on August 14, 2007 at 8:00 AM

That’s funny, you posted that you had never heard a good response to the Corinth. quote. I gave you one of the most respected theologins response along with several other sources and you say something about nuance, and blow him off. Is that your way of saying, no matter the facts I won’t believe?

I take it you had never heard of Henry commentaries?

Google commentaries and you will find some of the great theologins dissecting each passage.

csdeven on August 14, 2007 at 7:28 AM

Point out my bigoted statements. You have a habit of accusing me of things I haven’t said.

This is the third or fourth time I have caught you. And of course you will ignore, run, and hide.

…every single one of them was an admirable person…..
LegendHasIt on August 14, 2007 at 4:40 AM

Here is one (csdeven) Legend that is not so admirable. He has a habit of misquoting and lying about posters.

I haven’t even approached his (Mitt’s) religion, except where I said he has to overcome the bible belt mentality. If you don’t think that is on his radar, you are very naive.

Once again, point out where I said a bigoted statement. Otherwise, sit down, shut up, and learn some manners.

right2bright on August 13, 2007 at 9:49 PM

hahaha

I find it funny as heck when you “Christians” like to claim the bible as unfallible until it says something you don’t like. Then you find all sorts of ways to nuance it.

Spare me.