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	<title>Comments on: Breaking: TNR challenges Weekly Standard&#8217;s claim that Beauchamp has recanted; Update: Weekly Standard stands by its source</title>
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		<title>By: Jonas Parker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonas Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somehow I feel much safer now that my son and son-in-law are currently on active duty while Mitt&#039;s preppy kids are far far away from the U.S. military...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somehow I feel much safer now that my son and son-in-law are currently on active duty while Mitt&#8217;s preppy kids are far far away from the U.S. military&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: profitsbeard</title>
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		<dc:creator>profitsbeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 04:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;What kind of soldiers&lt;/em&gt; was Scott T.B. trying to portray?

There&#039;s the &quot;truth&quot; value of his &quot;story&quot;.

He either exaggerated or completely made up his &quot;reporting&quot;.

To make the troops look bad.

Why?

And what was TNR&#039;s &lt;em&gt;motive&lt;/em&gt; in wanting to believe it?

If the articles are proven to be bogus, will TNR and Scott T.B. examine their prejudices?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>What kind of soldiers</em> was Scott T.B. trying to portray?</p>
<p>There&#8217;s the &#8220;truth&#8221; value of his &#8220;story&#8221;.</p>
<p>He either exaggerated or completely made up his &#8220;reporting&#8221;.</p>
<p>To make the troops look bad.</p>
<p>Why?</p>
<p>And what was TNR&#8217;s <em>motive</em> in wanting to believe it?</p>
<p>If the articles are proven to be bogus, will TNR and Scott T.B. examine their prejudices?</p>
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		<title>By: Wonkette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wonkette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 21:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Love Crimes...&lt;/strong&gt;

 Gordon Brown is waiting to see if the baby&#8217;s his before he splits, Bush is probably doing the same. [Iraq Slogger] A gajillion dollars for a book how things might have happened isn&#8217;t enough when sometimes you just need......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Love Crimes&#8230;</strong></p>
<p> Gordon Brown is waiting to see if the baby&#8217;s his before he splits, Bush is probably doing the same. [Iraq Slogger] A gajillion dollars for a book how things might have happened isn&#8217;t enough when sometimes you just need&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: riccangolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>riccangolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 19:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fake but accurate in the liberal mind.  Reminds of me of a prognathic jawed senator and his wild stories of Vietnam.</description>
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		<title>By: williars</title>
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		<dc:creator>williars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 17:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;When liberals (even soldiers) lie:&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;One question today is whether Beauchamp&#039;s dispatches are true. A second, more pressing question is how to better gather and report such stories, and how we should evaluate and verify them. I am deeply skeptical about the veracity of Beauchamp&#039;s dispatches, particularly the last one, but disinclined to offer definitive pronouncements at this time. Partisans on both sides of the political spectrum seem to harbor no such doubts. Based solely on the content of these dispatches, some were happy to leap to conclusions about the author&#039;s veracity without regard for the facts. And as the argument grows louder, each side turns toward the troops, using them to stand in for their own preconceived ideas about this war. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;This is from Phillip Carter&#039;s Slate article as noted on RCP. It is SOP when a lib gets caught lying. Read the whole thing to be scolded by your better. &lt;/strong&gt;
Randy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>When liberals (even soldiers) lie:</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>One question today is whether Beauchamp&#8217;s dispatches are true. A second, more pressing question is how to better gather and report such stories, and how we should evaluate and verify them. I am deeply skeptical about the veracity of Beauchamp&#8217;s dispatches, particularly the last one, but disinclined to offer definitive pronouncements at this time. Partisans on both sides of the political spectrum seem to harbor no such doubts. Based solely on the content of these dispatches, some were happy to leap to conclusions about the author&#8217;s veracity without regard for the facts. And as the argument grows louder, each side turns toward the troops, using them to stand in for their own preconceived ideas about this war. </p></blockquote>
<p><strong>This is from Phillip Carter&#8217;s Slate article as noted on RCP. It is SOP when a lib gets caught lying. Read the whole thing to be scolded by your better. </strong><br />
Randy</p>
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		<title>By: Jonas Parker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonas Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 17:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how the Army can bust Scott down to below private. I bet a stint in the local stockade would get to the truth...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how the Army can bust Scott down to below private. I bet a stint in the local stockade would get to the truth&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Charles G. Waugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Charles G. Waugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 17:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;BEAUCHAMP FIASCO&lt;/strong&gt;:  Foer skinned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>BEAUCHAMP FIASCO</strong>:  Foer skinned.</p>
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		<title>By: Bad Candy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bad Candy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 17:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Pam on August 7, 2007 at 8:37 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Except for the fact he&#039;s right in the earlier critique, and he&#039;s wrong this time.  Its not the blogwhoring(God knows I send enough to Ace and HA) that&#039;s bad, its the content that you blogwhore, Moran was criticizing the content, which was reasonable.  The content he&#039;s criticizing now is way off, and Ace pwn3d him for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Pam on August 7, 2007 at 8:37 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Except for the fact he&#8217;s right in the earlier critique, and he&#8217;s wrong this time.  Its not the blogwhoring(God knows I send enough to Ace and HA) that&#8217;s bad, its the content that you blogwhore, Moran was criticizing the content, which was reasonable.  The content he&#8217;s criticizing now is way off, and Ace pwn3d him for it.</p>
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		<title>By: AntonK</title>
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		<dc:creator>AntonK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 16:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There is a cloud over the New Republic, but there&#039;s one hanging over the Army, as well.&quot;
 
&quot;Each investigated this and cleared themselves, but they both have vested interests.&quot;

From the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/07/AR2007080701922.html?hpid=topnews&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WaPo&#039;s piece&lt;/a&gt; on the Beauchamp affair, that&#039;s a quote from journalism prof Mark Feldstein.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is a cloud over the New Republic, but there&#8217;s one hanging over the Army, as well.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Each investigated this and cleared themselves, but they both have vested interests.&#8221;</p>
<p>From the <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/07/AR2007080701922.html?hpid=topnews" rel="nofollow">WaPo&#8217;s piece</a> on the Beauchamp affair, that&#8217;s a quote from journalism prof Mark Feldstein.</p>
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		<title>By: BohicaTwentyTwo</title>
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		<dc:creator>BohicaTwentyTwo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 15:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the rallying cry from the left for the next few days will be &lt;strong&gt;PROTECT THE NARRATIVE&lt;/strong&gt;. I am sure we will be constantly reminded that Iraq is still an unwinnable quagmire and that its turning our soldiers (who they support) into psychopathic killers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the rallying cry from the left for the next few days will be <strong>PROTECT THE NARRATIVE</strong>. I am sure we will be constantly reminded that Iraq is still an unwinnable quagmire and that its turning our soldiers (who they support) into psychopathic killers.</p>
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		<title>By: clghitis</title>
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		<dc:creator>clghitis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 14:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank Foer&#039;s Quote: &lt;blockquote&gt;My magazine this last week has been subject of basically a smear job by the Weekly Standard and a lot of the conservative blogosphere over a piece that we published from a soldier in Iraq&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

should be: “My magazine this last week has been subject of &lt;em&gt;questions&lt;/em&gt; by the Weekly Standard and a lot of the conservative blogosphere over a &lt;em&gt;smear job&lt;/em&gt; that we published from a soldier in Iraq&quot;

Much better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank Foer&#8217;s Quote:<br />
<blockquote>My magazine this last week has been subject of basically a smear job by the Weekly Standard and a lot of the conservative blogosphere over a piece that we published from a soldier in Iraq&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>should be: “My magazine this last week has been subject of <em>questions</em> by the Weekly Standard and a lot of the conservative blogosphere over a <em>smear job</em> that we published from a soldier in Iraq&#8221;</p>
<p>Much better.</p>
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		<title>By: rplat</title>
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		<dc:creator>rplat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 14:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This traitor Beauchamp crawled out of the same garbage can as Kerry.  It&#039;s a shame the bum is getting so much press.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This traitor Beauchamp crawled out of the same garbage can as Kerry.  It&#8217;s a shame the bum is getting so much press.</p>
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		<title>By: boris</title>
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		<dc:creator>boris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 13:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(3) STB will confess to constructing an auto-composite, collecting urban ledgends and war rumors as tales told in the first person singular. TNR can claim there&#039;s a grain of truth in the tales which show the degradation of the human spirit caused by war. Just a minor glitch, understandable mistake by an inexperienced source.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(3) STB will confess to constructing an auto-composite, collecting urban ledgends and war rumors as tales told in the first person singular. TNR can claim there&#8217;s a grain of truth in the tales which show the degradation of the human spirit caused by war. Just a minor glitch, understandable mistake by an inexperienced source.</p>
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		<title>By: SunSword</title>
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		<dc:creator>SunSword</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 13:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But of course, as has been said before -- it doesn&#039;t matter to TNR whether or not the story is TRUE since as all good liberals know, in a postmodernist world truth is unknowable and spin is everything.

After all, what is true for one is not true for another, truth is subjective, and is not discovered but constructed. Thus, for TNR the story is true, regardless of facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But of course, as has been said before &#8212; it doesn&#8217;t matter to TNR whether or not the story is TRUE since as all good liberals know, in a postmodernist world truth is unknowable and spin is everything.</p>
<p>After all, what is true for one is not true for another, truth is subjective, and is not discovered but constructed. Thus, for TNR the story is true, regardless of facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Physics Geek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Physics Geek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe John Cole can lecture us on how this doesn&#039;t matter because &lt;em&gt;they were the same people who said that Terri Schiavo was going to get up and walk&lt;/em&gt;!

And for  a couple of highlights:

&lt;em&gt;And yes, I’m linking to Ace of Spades to refute TNR, because Ace is by far the more credible of the two.&lt;/em&gt;

and

&lt;em&gt;The New Republic has become Truthout. That’s how much damage this story has done to their credibility. &lt;/em&gt;

If I were TNR, I&#039;d slink off to my hole to lick my wounds. Then again, I&#039;m not an imbecile who doesn&#039;t realize when he&#039;s beaten.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe John Cole can lecture us on how this doesn&#8217;t matter because <em>they were the same people who said that Terri Schiavo was going to get up and walk</em>!</p>
<p>And for  a couple of highlights:</p>
<p><em>And yes, I’m linking to Ace of Spades to refute TNR, because Ace is by far the more credible of the two.</em></p>
<p>and</p>
<p><em>The New Republic has become Truthout. That’s how much damage this story has done to their credibility. </em></p>
<p>If I were TNR, I&#8217;d slink off to my hole to lick my wounds. Then again, I&#8217;m not an imbecile who doesn&#8217;t realize when he&#8217;s beaten.</p>
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		<title>By: mesablue</title>
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		<dc:creator>mesablue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 09:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NYT and WaPo &lt;a href=&quot;http://moralauthority.wordpress.com/2007/08/08/in-the-full-light-of-day-blindness-still-prevails/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;running the story today&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NYT and WaPo <a href="http://moralauthority.wordpress.com/2007/08/08/in-the-full-light-of-day-blindness-still-prevails/" rel="nofollow">running the story today</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: eanax</title>
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		<dc:creator>eanax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 07:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Beauchamp is French. No one should be shocked that his hatred of America is genetic. 

Valiant on August 7, 2007 at 3:15 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Laughing.Out.Loud. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Beauchamp is French. No one should be shocked that his hatred of America is genetic. </p>
<p>Valiant on August 7, 2007 at 3:15 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Laughing.Out.Loud. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: JM Hanes</title>
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		<dc:creator>JM Hanes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 07:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of the tongue story, in the process of posting similarly over at Jeff Goldstein&#039;s place, I picked up on something that I don&#039;t think anybody has pointed out:

Beauchamp&#039;s first piece (published at what must have been close to the beginning of his deployment) is called &quot;War Bonds.&quot;  The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=20070205&amp;s=diarist020507&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;browser window&lt;/a&gt; it opens in, however, is titled &quot;My horrifying tour of duty in Iraq.&quot;  In fact, it&#039;s probably worth a screen shot, just in case....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of the tongue story, in the process of posting similarly over at Jeff Goldstein&#8217;s place, I picked up on something that I don&#8217;t think anybody has pointed out:</p>
<p>Beauchamp&#8217;s first piece (published at what must have been close to the beginning of his deployment) is called &#8220;War Bonds.&#8221;  The <a href="http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=20070205&amp;s=diarist020507" rel="nofollow">browser window</a> it opens in, however, is titled &#8220;My horrifying tour of duty in Iraq.&#8221;  In fact, it&#8217;s probably worth a screen shot, just in case&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Blog-o-Fascists</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blog-o-Fascists</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 06:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Beauchamp Battle Royale: TNR vs. Weekly Standard...&lt;/strong&gt;

Little Green Footballs

Well, I&#8217;m back in my top-secret chamber beneath Denver International Airport, and tonight it looks as if The New Republic plans to drive their flaming jalopy right off the cliff. They&#8217;re disputing the Weekly Standard...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Beauchamp Battle Royale: TNR vs. Weekly Standard&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Little Green Footballs</p>
<p>Well, I&rsquo;m back in my top-secret chamber beneath Denver International Airport, and tonight it looks as if The New Republic plans to drive their flaming jalopy right off the cliff. They&rsquo;re disputing the Weekly Standard&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JM Hanes</title>
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		<dc:creator>JM Hanes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 06:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Topsecretk9!

In re your quote from Confederate Yankee:  
&lt;i&gt;&quot;Instead, Major Lamb states that the PAO system is only responding to specific inquiries, and little more is expected to be released unless PV-2 Beauchamp decides to discuss the matter further, which he is free to do.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Which suggests two possible endings to the saga:

1) On the theory that it&#039;s better to have been hoaxed than accused of bad faith, TNR will elicit &amp; publish another statement from Beauchamp admitting that he (&amp; possibly a &quot;military person&quot;al friend or two) deliberately hoodwinked Foer et al. TNR will &quot;apologize&quot; for being too idealistic when they took his tales at face value.

OR

2) In order to rehabilitate himself with his fellow soldiers, Beauchamp will claim it was a gigantic joke designed to see just how much shit the TNR would swallow -- in which case Foer et al are screwed.  If his marriage is heading anywhere near the tubes

If Elspeth is still speaking to him (and if her job is on the line), I&#039;d go with the Confession.  If not, I&#039;d go with Braggadocio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Topsecretk9!</p>
<p>In re your quote from Confederate Yankee:<br />
<i>&#8220;Instead, Major Lamb states that the PAO system is only responding to specific inquiries, and little more is expected to be released unless PV-2 Beauchamp decides to discuss the matter further, which he is free to do.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Which suggests two possible endings to the saga:</p>
<p>1) On the theory that it&#8217;s better to have been hoaxed than accused of bad faith, TNR will elicit &amp; publish another statement from Beauchamp admitting that he (&amp; possibly a &#8220;military person&#8221;al friend or two) deliberately hoodwinked Foer et al. TNR will &#8220;apologize&#8221; for being too idealistic when they took his tales at face value.</p>
<p>OR</p>
<p>2) In order to rehabilitate himself with his fellow soldiers, Beauchamp will claim it was a gigantic joke designed to see just how much shit the TNR would swallow &#8212; in which case Foer et al are screwed.  If his marriage is heading anywhere near the tubes</p>
<p>If Elspeth is still speaking to him (and if her job is on the line), I&#8217;d go with the Confession.  If not, I&#8217;d go with Braggadocio.</p>
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		<title>By: faraway</title>
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		<dc:creator>faraway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 06:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karl on August 7, 2007 at 11:37 PM

The WaPo article is just another sliming at the military.  How disgusting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karl on August 7, 2007 at 11:37 PM</p>
<p>The WaPo article is just another sliming at the military.  How disgusting.</p>
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		<title>By: JM Hanes</title>
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		<dc:creator>JM Hanes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 05:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the TNR statement:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;We’ve talked to military personnel directly involved in the events that Scott Thomas Beauchamp described, and they corroborated his account as detailed in our statement. &quot;&lt;/i&gt;

We should add &quot;as detailed in our statement&quot; to the list of parsables here.  TNR does not say that said &quot;military personnel&quot; corroborated events as detailed &lt;i&gt;by Scott Thomas.&lt;/i&gt;  Their &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=w070730&amp;s=editorial080207&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Statement&lt;/a&gt; details considerably less than Beauchamp did -- and avoids addressing a considerable chunk of the actual questions that were being asked.

BTW, the emphasis has generally been on the three events described in Shock Troops, but does anybody really believe that the kid who supposedly had his tongue cut out for fraternizing with the Yanks went right back to his fraternizing ways -- after a conveniently vague period of time apparently allowed him to recover his good spirits?  Some example he turned out to be, eh?   As with the other stories, the more you look at this one, the less sense it makes too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the TNR statement:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;We’ve talked to military personnel directly involved in the events that Scott Thomas Beauchamp described, and they corroborated his account as detailed in our statement. &#8220;</i></p>
<p>We should add &#8220;as detailed in our statement&#8221; to the list of parsables here.  TNR does not say that said &#8220;military personnel&#8221; corroborated events as detailed <i>by Scott Thomas.</i>  Their <a href="http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=w070730&amp;s=editorial080207" rel="nofollow">Statement</a> details considerably less than Beauchamp did &#8212; and avoids addressing a considerable chunk of the actual questions that were being asked.</p>
<p>BTW, the emphasis has generally been on the three events described in Shock Troops, but does anybody really believe that the kid who supposedly had his tongue cut out for fraternizing with the Yanks went right back to his fraternizing ways &#8212; after a conveniently vague period of time apparently allowed him to recover his good spirits?  Some example he turned out to be, eh?   As with the other stories, the more you look at this one, the less sense it makes too.</p>
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		<title>By: John from OPFOR</title>
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		<dc:creator>John from OPFOR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 04:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Bryan on August 7, 2007 at 5:32 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Particularly true in the Air Force, Bryan. Most of our senior NCOs have more education than I do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Bryan on August 7, 2007 at 5:32 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Particularly true in the Air Force, Bryan. Most of our senior NCOs have more education than I do.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 03:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;UPDATE:  Foer is &lt;em&gt;en fuego&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/strong&gt;

From Howie Kurtz&#039;s story for the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/07/AR2007080701922.html?hpid=topnews&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WaPo&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;strong&gt;Before going incommunicado, Beauchamp &quot;told us that he signed a statement that did not contradict his writings for the New Republic,&quot; Foer said.&lt;/strong&gt;

I guess TNR just &lt;em&gt;forgot&lt;/em&gt; to mention that in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tnr.com/blog/the_plank?pid=132739&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;today&#039;s statement&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>UPDATE:  Foer is <em>en fuego</em>.</strong></p>
<p>From Howie Kurtz&#8217;s story for the <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/07/AR2007080701922.html?hpid=topnews" rel="nofollow">WaPo</a>:</p>
<p><strong>Before going incommunicado, Beauchamp &#8220;told us that he signed a statement that did not contradict his writings for the New Republic,&#8221; Foer said.</strong></p>
<p>I guess TNR just <em>forgot</em> to mention that in <a href="http://www.tnr.com/blog/the_plank?pid=132739" rel="nofollow">today&#8217;s statement</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: G. Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>G. Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 03:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Occam perspective (simplest interpretation) in this case seems to be: 
Beauchamp is a liar.
He was under no pressure and lied to TNR and the world.
After the blogswarm, his new wife asked, &quot;what&#039;s up?&quot; and to appease her shocked &quot;frown and befuddlement&quot; he lied by &quot;going public&quot; with his lies.
After Army initiated investigation, He fessed up the bare minimum to avoid prosecution. That the recantation (assuming that report is true) was on the first day, supports its likelihood of being true. That is, it is unlikely recantation would take place if there were others who would corroborate the original tales. Of course it was all self-interest.
No big mystery. TNR went overboard because B&#039;s wife was enthusiastically going to bat for this liar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Occam perspective (simplest interpretation) in this case seems to be:<br />
Beauchamp is a liar.<br />
He was under no pressure and lied to TNR and the world.<br />
After the blogswarm, his new wife asked, &#8220;what&#8217;s up?&#8221; and to appease her shocked &#8220;frown and befuddlement&#8221; he lied by &#8220;going public&#8221; with his lies.<br />
After Army initiated investigation, He fessed up the bare minimum to avoid prosecution. That the recantation (assuming that report is true) was on the first day, supports its likelihood of being true. That is, it is unlikely recantation would take place if there were others who would corroborate the original tales. Of course it was all self-interest.<br />
No big mystery. TNR went overboard because B&#8217;s wife was enthusiastically going to bat for this liar.</p>
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