Kos on the DLC: “A bunch of cranks,” “a fantastic con job”
posted at 9:50 am on August 7, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Perfection. Or rather, near perfection: having DLC leadership team member Hillary Clinton standing right next to him when he said it would have been the cherry on top. I like to imagine he was telling Andrew Marcus this at almost the exact moment on Sunday morning that Shillary was stooging for her girl’s decision to appear at Yearly Kos. Be sure to smile the next time they call you a crank and a phony, KP.
Plenty of other goodies here, including a segment about the Middle East panel that starts around 9:40 and features a cameo from John Mearsheimer at 12:45 in which he reveals who bears most of the responsibility for dark-age Muslim violence. (See if you can guess!) If you don’t have time to watch it all, the DLC bit is at 4:10. “We are the center … of the national electorate,” declares Kos, whereupon Marcus sets off to find out what the “center” thinks about key issues. There’s also a short bit at 22:45 in which Kos comments on the Soltz/Aguina showdown, but it’s not that interesting.
Here’s DLC Chairman Harold Ford’s op-ed in WaPo this morning in case you missed it in headlines last night. Don’t ignore “the vital center,” he begs Democrats, politely ignoring the fact that they already have. And here’s an interesting post at Right on the Right that tries to put some meat on the bone of that moronic nutroots plan to unionize. Makes no sense in the larger sense — but among Daily Kos diarists, who presumably see nothing of the coin that’s rolling in to the site? Makes a whole lot of sense indeed.
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How many licks does it take to get to the center of the national electorate?
1, 2 … 3.
3.
… talk about wallowing in your own crapulence.
yo on August 7, 2007 at 9:59 AM
HAHA.
The ideological b$%^slap.
Anyway did I just hear Kos take credit for recruiting John Tester?! Are you kidding me? Besides Testers on the issues page having a Libertarian slant, why else should I not beleive that crap?
Theworldisnotenough on August 7, 2007 at 10:02 AM
This is beginning to remind me of when McCarthy took on the U.S. Army.
Blake on August 7, 2007 at 10:05 AM
Your equilibrium must be seriously off if you’re a KosKid and you believe you’re the center of the electorate.
congsan on August 7, 2007 at 10:07 AM
“We ae cleaning up the Democrat party and he needed to go”
Wow. The arrogance. But I like his strategy. Cast the Blue Dogs into the Independent column.
Theworldisnotenough on August 7, 2007 at 10:08 AM
I strongly suspect Democrats a generation from now are going to hear Kos’ name … and shudder. And cringe. And wince.
How embarrassing for them.
Professor Blather on August 7, 2007 at 10:13 AM
Something about the expression on Kos’s face in that picture makes me want to punch him, hard.
JayHaw Phrenzie on August 7, 2007 at 10:14 AM
Dude looks like a sock puppet monkey.
Mindcrime on August 7, 2007 at 10:15 AM
The people interviewed right after Kos’ declaration are unbelievable.
The one woman says that she’s gotten used to certain civil rights, and gets cranky when we are expected then to do without them. The interviewer asks which civil rights have been taken away, and they balk…um, I’ve known people who have been turned away at airports.
If this is the center of our electorate, then it is controlled by stupid hippies, and we are in a hell of a lot of trouble.
nailinmyeye on August 7, 2007 at 10:15 AM
No matter how many times I tell you guys that Michelle is going to be held responsible by the left for comments like this, you persist in making them. You don’t pause even for a moment before doing so either, do you?
Thanks again for making my job a little harder.
Allahpundit on August 7, 2007 at 10:17 AM
“We are the center of the electorate”
If you play poker you can plainly see he doesn’t beleive what he is saying… Poor guy. Freds people better milk this for the centrist vote.
Theworldisnotenough on August 7, 2007 at 10:22 AM
I am honestly puzzled that of all the comments I made, this is the one that I get rebuked for.
I usually just type the first thing that comes to my mind and to your point “do not pause for a moment”.
Of course, if you had a preview feature like FR, I would have to pause for a moment before posting.
IN any event, i do not intend to make your job harder. Please delete it.
JayHaw Phrenzie on August 7, 2007 at 10:26 AM
Good, keep on pushin’ the Dems further to the left … until they drop off the edge. Then the moderate Dems will make the switch over to the Pubs. It’ll be like Reagan vs McGovern!
nailinmyeye, um, nailed it! Ask a lib what rights he’s lost and he’ll studder and stammer. Then say “BUSH SUCKS!” and put your hands out, wrists up together, as if waiting to be cuffed … “Hmmm, that’s odd. No jack booted thugs came to arrest me”. Now go to Venezuala and try that. “CHAVEZ EL SUCKO!” and see what happens to ya. We don’t call ‘em Libtards for nuthin’.
Tony737 on August 7, 2007 at 10:31 AM
He thinks Kossacks are the center of the electorate? Man, this guy is delusional.
Bad Candy on August 7, 2007 at 10:38 AM
I couldn’t figure out if this video was supposed to shine a positive or negative light on the conference. This quote seems negative to me. . . OH THE HORROR, some people were turned away at an airport. There’s no wonder these people feel entitled and expect privelege. Imagine what these people would think in a truly oppressive state that wouldn’t let them say anything bad about the administration.
Kos himself and the entire crew are completely full of themselves. They are so narcissistic it is pathetic. I loved when he was talking about Lieberman and said how influnetial they were in ousting him. Then the questioner said, well, he’s still a senator. And he indignantly said, ‘but he’s not a Democrat’. That’s a big tent they are building there isn’t it?
It is more important for them to kick someone out of the Democratic Party than it is to remove them from the Senate. In Kos’ mind that’s ‘victory’ for them.
Throwing stones at the Democratic conference the candidates shunned shouldn’t win them much favor from the ‘center’ either.
It is amazing how they consider themselves ‘progressive’, yet they are the least diverse political group on the planet. I saw nobody but white people except in the middle east forum where they had a middle eastern guy spouting issues with Israel.
Funny how the military guy who was supposed to be doing something wrong wanted everyone to see what was said, but the moderator didn’t want the media to see what he had to say. Hypocrisy is rampant.
These guys have no positive thought for the future, they all unite in hatred for America and American policies. They are nothing more than a flash in the pan. If they were 1% as important as they thought they were, I’d be worried.
ThackerAgency on August 7, 2007 at 10:42 AM
He’s also gayer than that fitness celebrity Allah highlighted the other day. Wow is Kos gay.
RW Wacko on August 7, 2007 at 10:42 AM
Kos rules
thehis World!CliffHanger on August 7, 2007 at 10:46 AM
That Harold Ford could actually even say that is slightly encouraging. I don’t remember recently reading any Dem say their problems arose from anything other than “just not enough” leftism. Although, his annointing Algore with Prophet status certainly weighs against him.
My innate gloominess says that feels more and more true every day, as two generations of kids have been churned through the nation’s academy with the Zinnchomsky Immersion Technique.
eeyore on August 7, 2007 at 10:50 AM
Then the real questions are:
1. What airport were they turned away from?
2. When were they turned away?
3. What is the exact date of this alleged turning away?
4. What were they doing before they were “turned away”?
5. Were they making threats or “jokes” of an inappropriate nature?
You can’t make non-specific statements like this without backing it up with facts and the rest of the story.
Example:
I could say I was turned away from a Gucci store. I am disgusted by the blatant racism and meanness of the people who work there. They clearly are being mean and prejudiced.
Of course I was turned away because I don’t have the money to shop there. But since when should that stop me from shopping there???
mjk on August 7, 2007 at 10:50 AM
That guy was great in Pretty in Pink.
Mike Honcho on August 7, 2007 at 10:52 AM
If I understand correctly, the U.S. is going to hell in a handcart. Economy sucks, war sucks, freedom sucks, speech sucks, FOX sucks.
I’m sure this video was edited by the ‘VRWC’ to eliminate the thugs that stormed in and destroyed the displays, beat/killed/arrested the activists, sent them to Guantanamo, waterboarded them into compliance. I mean, it was, right? All those ‘civil liberties’ that we can’t name, uh, it’s cuz we were brainwashed to forget ‘em, huh?
‘Liberman’s not a Democrat.’ BWAHAHAHAHAH!!!
TinMan13 on August 7, 2007 at 10:55 AM
I’ll pass on this one. I don’t care for self-proclaimed influencers.
desertdweller on August 7, 2007 at 10:56 AM
Your equilibrium must be seriously offif you’re a KosKidandyou believe you’re the center of theelectorateuniverse.saint kansas on August 7, 2007 at 11:00 AM
When O’Reilly and MM attack the Left over comments in KOS, I wince a little, since I read (and occasionally write) things here and elsewhere that are crude. But the argument against YearlyKos wasn’t that it was occuring, but that top Dems were attending.
Is this the 21st century version of chewing the fat with your buds, or the editorial department of a 21st century newspaper. There’s a need for both. We gotta figure this one out.
JiangxiDad on August 7, 2007 at 11:06 AM
This guy needs to get together with Clooney. The cloud of smug self righteousness would fog over entire cities. Didn’t Clooney say he and the Hollywood types were massively influential too?
Not last I checked.
mjk on August 7, 2007 at 11:07 AM
Isn’t that what happened to Oprah? She arrived after the store was closed and was turned away.
Blake on August 7, 2007 at 11:07 AM
I have noticed that it seems all those kooky libs have asymmetrical heads and faces.
It seems like some sort of retardation. You will also note they tend to have strange lisps and ways of speaking, like Barney frank.
I think that because they are degenerately abnormal they are reacting to the world in a way that is just a reaction to their not fitting in.
It is like they are the kids that were geeky and didn’t fit in. So they want to warp the world in away that will be more receptive to their abnormal physiology and demented mental states.
I am not saying this to be funny or cruel, I’m just working on a hypothesis.
What do you think?
TheSitRep on August 7, 2007 at 11:19 AM
Allah, a lot of people have noted that the comments on this site have been increasingly shrill and taking a bit of a right-wing Kos kind of tone for a while. There are many that aren’t offensive in the obvious sense but are offensive in that they are mindlessly partisan and thoughtless… I think the former (overtly offensive) follows from the latter.
There is still good conversation to read here, but there is more and more crap to wade through these days, it seems.
Ugh… and the horrible, played-out jokes involving 3 second countdowns, cricket chirps, etc…. the humanity!
DaveS on August 7, 2007 at 11:34 AM
The attempt to repudiate the role of physical strength of the male being used as a source of societal power is appealing to unattractive women who aren’t chosen to mate, and physically weak males. They aren’t even necessarily political. Like other self-proclaimed aggrieved minorities, they want to upset the orthodoxy.
IMHO
JiangxiDad on August 7, 2007 at 11:37 AM
Wow, this is the first video I have seen of him; I never realized how “light on his loafers” he is. Instead of spewing hate in the US elections perhaps he should get himself a husband and settle down in Quebec.
BigAnge on August 7, 2007 at 11:44 AM
It may already be known to some, but not myself. But I guarantee that he plays for the pink team.
Any confirmers?
Jared_MA on August 7, 2007 at 11:44 AM
Perhaps if there were ways to quantity peoples oddities (physical & mental) and proclivities for perversion, etc. and plot them. There would show a bell curve that might prove my hypothesis.
TheSitRep on August 7, 2007 at 11:47 AM
Exactly!!
I wish Kos success!!
Texas Gal on August 7, 2007 at 11:47 AM
Great minds think alike, Jared…beat you by a post.
BigAnge on August 7, 2007 at 11:51 AM
Two words: Senator Lamont.
BKennedy on August 7, 2007 at 11:54 AM
BigAnge:
Nice
Jared_MA on August 7, 2007 at 11:56 AM
Ha !
So that’s the little twirp that everyone is getting so excited over. Grow up people. He’s notttthhhhing. . . .
Texyank on August 7, 2007 at 11:59 AM
Watch the video again and freeze it right when Kos states the netroots are the new center.
He doesn’t believe it.Yet. But he’ll keep saying it over and over and so will his minions. Kos goal is to get “his” dems elected and you all just saw what they are going to look like.
swami on August 7, 2007 at 12:02 PM
Wrong. Did you watch the whole vid? Did you see that eyeglass-wearing Columbia/NYU lawyer type who was MoveOn’s Director of Information or something? The whole vid reminded me of Communist party meetings in Germany and Russia before the Russ. Rev. Don’t dismiss these people on the basis that they’re merely pointy-headed intellectuals who couldn’t hit a baseball. These are dangerously twisted people who want to rule you. And we better come out swinging.
JiangxiDad on August 7, 2007 at 12:04 PM
Evertime I see that chinless wonder, I imagine how much abuse he took from the other guys in the military. He only wishes he could have been Scott Thomas Beauchamp back in early 90’s.
Kendrick on August 7, 2007 at 12:04 PM
ROPE. We need to give them ROPE, lots of ROPE.
shooter on August 7, 2007 at 12:07 PM
Precisely right! And they are nothing to sneeze at.
JiangxiDad on August 7, 2007 at 12:14 PM
Leaning right, but one of the vital center ;), I resent having a face put to it.
captivated_dem on August 7, 2007 at 12:14 PM
Wrong. Did you watch the whole vid? Did you see that eyeglass-wearing Columbia/NYU lawyer type who was MoveOn’s Director of Information or something? The whole vid
So you fear the twirp and his whine click. Grow up ! ! !
Texyank on August 7, 2007 at 12:16 PM
They’re getting too close for comfort. Reid/Pelosi/Clinton and the rest of the cabal. Here is NY I gotta see em and smell em. View from TX might seem rosier.
JiangxiDad on August 7, 2007 at 12:23 PM
Yeah, it’s a joke that these guys think they’re the center of anything other than their own private Romper Room, but when Hillary swings (further) to the right in the general elections in order to get elected, these dopes will still be there, convinced they run the show, with the ear of many influential senators. That’s where we get shafted.
Hannibal Smith on August 7, 2007 at 12:27 PM
Ford’s co-author, Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley, said in 2004 that he was more worried about the actions of the Bush administration than about al Qaeda.
Nuance.
Karl on August 7, 2007 at 12:28 PM
Those people are scary. It is hard to imagine Americans thinking the way they seem to think. It appears that they do not tolerate any thinking different than their own. The ability to lie seems to have a firm hold on the left. Markos is a nightmare on elmstreet.
Zelsdorf Ragshaft on August 7, 2007 at 12:34 PM
Ha ! Smell-em , No thanks The yank part of
Texyank was my time spent in the northeast (28yrs)
Other than the support of the wackiest of the left this kos is nothing. .
A mouthy lil twirp with an E-following. They’re nothing.
Texyank on August 7, 2007 at 12:34 PM
I strongly suspect Democrats a generation from now are going to hear Kos’ name … and shudder. And cringe. And wince.
How embarrassing for them.
Professor Blather on August 7, 2007 at 10:13 AM
Myself, and other Moderate Democrats, have already been kicked to the curb by these NEW DIRECTION DEMOCRATS! Sites like KOS and AMERICABLOG spew nothing but hateful, racist, heterophobic hate speech at every turn. They have taken over the Democratic Party and are attempting to purge everyone who disagrees with them.
DfDeportation on August 7, 2007 at 12:34 PM
Liberalism is a mental disorder.
Brat on August 7, 2007 at 12:35 PM
They are twisted and dangerous.
Pulchritudinous Patriot on August 7, 2007 at 12:52 PM
Neville Chamberlain said something along those lines (well maybe not verbatum) about Adolph Hitler.
Pulchritudinous Patriot on August 7, 2007 at 12:55 PM
The irony is that this song was dedicated to the people of the former East-Germany, with “may they do the best with their new freedom”.
Excerpts, which the Kos-rats think apply to them
We
We are
The People
It’s our land and our life
We
We are
The People
You cannot turn you can’t survive
Now
It’s time to resign
We have to do it now
The change of the government
It’s the only solution
You
You can’t ignore us
Open your eyes and see
You can’t go on like this anymore
You know
Your system has failed
There’s no need to try again
You’ve lost our confidence
Long ago, it’s too late
Now it’s time for you to go
This was not our way
We are the ones you were working
So listen what we say
We want to live in freedom now
No terror and no fear
We almost did it, no rest now
The victory’s so near
How ironic, and how delusional for the the Kosacks. May they never become the center, except in their own little heads.
Note to bashers – why does everything have to be gay?
Entelechy on August 7, 2007 at 12:58 PM
So, good things do happen to bad people. If only he spent more time with his family and less time propagating hatred, vileness, and absolute insanity, I might be able to like the guy.
BKennedy on August 7, 2007 at 1:04 PM
Kos keeps trucking out the “Ned Lamont” campaign as some kind of “victory”.
The whole Lamont thing was a sham from the get go, the Nutroots thought they would sneak in the back door and beat Liebermann by beating him in the summer primary by taking advantage of 80% of Connecticut being on vacation during the primary election and hoping they would gain steam and take the general thereby unseating Joe Lieberman.
The morons on the team Kos/Lamont forgot that the voters of Connecticut eventually would come home from vacation and would see through their opportunistic (nice try I must say) unseating of Lieberman.
186k on August 7, 2007 at 1:16 PM
We don’t even have to like him. He and his/their philosophy provide enough fodder for attack. We do better focusing on fighting their thoughts than their persons. Also, we need to try hard to keep our facts straight.
Entelechy on August 7, 2007 at 1:22 PM
mjk on August 7, 2007 at 10:50 AM:
New Question for ya –
Miss_Anthrope on August 7, 2007 at 1:41 PM
Kos got paranoid. The Dems were beginning to marginalize him. That’s why he dumped Sheehan. Kos is not the new center. He has dragged the entire Dem party way to the left.
Connie on August 7, 2007 at 1:50 PM
Had to laugh at AP’s “thanks for making my life a little harder” comment on wanting to punch the guy. It may make your life harder but for people with a sense of humor, Libs need not apply, it was pretty funny.
riccangolf on August 7, 2007 at 1:53 PM
To be fair, there’s a substantial difference between wanting to punch someone and actually threatening to do it.
Except in ‘Hate Crime America,’ I suppose.
James on August 7, 2007 at 1:54 PM
I feel for you. I honestly do.
The last actual liberal in the Democratic Party – in a leadership role – was probably JFK. Since then, the party has descended into a mockery of itself, openly embracing the very things it claims to stand against.
Not that we don’t have our own lunatics that who take things too far (insisting that calling a Presidential candidate a “faggot” is the height of conservativism comes to mind) or forget the broader context … but as a general rule, the parties have now almost completely switched places: if you believe in actual liberal principles like freedom, equality, and liberty – if you oppose racial discrimination, polarization, groupthink, and demagoguery – you cannot vote for the Democrats.
You may not like the Republicans, either (and who could blame you these days?). But there is nothing liberal, in any sense, about modern “liberals.” “Screw them” Kos is a perfect example. They scream for “peace” while embracing active hatred and endorsing dictators; they shriek against racism while routinely attacking their opponents based on race; they demand gay rights yet they are the first to make anti-gay slurs or “out” their opponents; they insist on environmentalism while their leaders despoil the environment.
Like I said, I feel for you. Once upon a time, liberals were liberal. They used to be unabashedly patriotic, too. Go figure.
Professor Blather on August 7, 2007 at 1:58 PM
24 minutes?!?!?!
Please…
asc85 on August 7, 2007 at 2:02 PM
So you fear the twirp and his whine click. Grow up ! ! !
Texyank on August 7, 2007 at 12:16 PM
Your giving the twirp too much credit. Chamberland Ha !!
You already have kos elected to Commander in Chief ? ?
Grow up ! !
Texyank on August 7, 2007 at 2:04 PM
Is it me or does he look like Duckie (Jon Cryer)?
Harpoon on August 7, 2007 at 2:34 PM
Was it Juan Williams who accused the right of starting the nastiness last night? While it is true that the right came down heavily on Clinton, what the left never understood is that Bill Clinton denigrated the Oval Office. He removed in one fell swoop the moral highground of America. The right had every reason to detest him for that.
While Markos may be the nightmare on Elm St., Bill Clinton was the nightmare on K Street. Bill Clinton not only started the current vile, revenge-filled partisan atmosphere, the Clintonistas, Soros, the Euro-wannabees, the Sore/Losermans (without Lieberman) have fed the hate demon daily.
Connie on August 7, 2007 at 2:51 PM
This is very interesting.
I was about to dump on him as being a typical leftist moron with brown material for brains when several of the posters here pointed something out to me.
Kos is NOT the center of anything. And yes, he knows it too and his comments are bravado. For now.
What he hopes to do is not only get control of the Democratic Party (which he almost has), but the nation itself.
We are seeing a man so very much like that man from 80 years ago in Germany who buffaloed his way into first taking over a party, then taking over a government. The reason, JiangxiDad, it reminds you of Germany and Russia is because Kos is trying to accomplish the same thing with America. And he thinks he might just be able to pull it off.
In July of 2000, radio anchor and former Democrat wrote an essay for worldnetdaily.com titled Fascism, corruption and my ‘Democratic’ Party.
He wrote:
We’ve seen the “brownshirts” drive Joe Lieberman out of the Party. We’ve seen Kos threaten the moderate wing of the Democratic Party with destruction — successfully, as the “trouping of the candidates” to Chicago proved.
We’ve seen the attack bloggers from the left. Michelle is absolutely correct to identify DKOS as a hate speech site. Are they any different from the Brownshirts prostelizing hate against the Jews on the sidewalks of Berlin in 1930? Not as far as I can see.
DKOS, DU, Hamsher, Huffington and some others are ALL hate sites. They use every trick developed by Lenin and his later disciple, Adolf. They use the Big Lie. They viciously attack and smear their opposition. They threaten and they are not above the use of “persuasion” to attain what they want.
And they want POWER.
Just also writes about the direction of the Democratic Party:
.
The Democratic Party of my youth is gone. It started to disappear in 1968 when the left assaulted it’s convention in Chicago. It’s demise was aided and abetted by the media who called ‘68 TET a victory for the Viet Cong, and the leftwing assault on the Chicago Police a “police riot.” It completed the destruction when the left wrested control of the party away from the practical politicians (like Mayor Richard J. Daley of Chicago) and gave control of delegate selection to bloviating morons like George McGovern, who promptly made rules that established “racial and gender quotas” for delegates to the convention.
It was in 1972 that the old party of FDR, Wilson, Truman, and JFK died. The Party today would be unrecognizable to Democrats living 40 or more years ago.
JiangxiDad, your comments of “These are dangerously twisted people who want to rule you. And we better come out swinging,” and “They’re getting too close for comfort” are right on the money. We had best NOT underestimate this man.
And we had all better be working overtime to insure that the Democrats are destroyed in the next election.
My 2 cents.
georgej on August 7, 2007 at 3:00 PM
Thanks, hon. I knew I forgot a couple of questions. I also forgot:
1. Did they have valid picture ID/passports?
2. Did they refuse to comply with security requirements? (i.e. the shoe thing, the taking off your belt, carry on and baby carriages through x-ray machines)
Again, just saying some surface statement about airports just opens up more questions that need answers before I believe anything.
mjk on August 7, 2007 at 3:11 PM
Couple days on Konvention Kool-Aid and Khaos thinks he’s Che weeding out the tepid Communists.
T J Green on August 7, 2007 at 3:28 PM
Everytime I see that guy, and hear that putrid little shart stain speak, I find it hard to believe he’s actually married to a girl and has kids.
Other than that, he’s a legend in his own mind.
SilverStar830 on August 7, 2007 at 3:38 PM
To understand these netroots “progressive” people better, check out this post by some Australian guy.
Zach on August 7, 2007 at 3:40 PM
No matter how many times I tell you guys that Michelle is going to be held responsible by the left for comments like this, you persist in making them. You don’t pause even for a moment before doing so either, do you?
Thanks again for making my job a little harder.
Allahpundit on August 7, 2007 at 10:17 AM
Thanks, AP, for saying that. I don’t wish to seem a whiny homosexual, but Kos strikes me and other people as gay and the fantasy of violence against Kos made me feel distinctly uncomfortable. I agree with Ann Coulter that gay people should be Republican, but it is hard to make that point when people make statements that suggest anti-gay violence.
The irony is that Kos is supposedly straight, has a child, and I’m aware of no rumours of him going to gay bars or such.
thuja on August 7, 2007 at 3:51 PM
I am glad that at least one person got that it was a joke.
In the future, I will read all of my posts before hitting submit.
Please don’t charge me with a hate crime.
(that too, was a joke, btw)
JayHaw Phrenzie on August 7, 2007 at 4:04 PM
The center? The center of what? The septic tank?
SoulGlo on August 7, 2007 at 4:05 PM
So THIS is KOS? I always wondered what happened to Ferris Buehler after he got out of school. These people think that they are the center? OMG. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. How do people gets so disillusioned and still remain otherwise functional?
Guardian on August 7, 2007 at 4:17 PM
Why is it relevant whom this guy sleeps with? If you disagree with homosexuality, great for you. I personally don’t understand it. But my wife doesn’t understand why I eat peanuts with the shell on.
If you believe that some people are born gay, then your argument is with God, not his creation. Either way, these types of slurs do nothing to forward our cause. They only highlight the misconceptions that we are a bunch of bigots.
Don’t give me the BS about the left’s own exclusivity or prejudicial snarkiness. I know it’s there. But I expect more from my side.
Finally. I don’t know the gender behind these giants of pontification, but I could probably come up with my own insinuations about commenters who are so invested in other people’s sexuality.
If you keep looking at the other guy’s plate…maybe you should have ordered what he did.
Close
The Race Card on August 7, 2007 at 4:21 PM
It’s easy to dismiss Kos but remember that his finger will wear the ring our President will kiss if / when Hillary or Obama or Edwards gets elected in 2008.
Buzzy on August 7, 2007 at 4:56 PM
It doesn’t seem that long ago that Ford himself, and Shillary (your word AP, not mine) were saying the DLC were for the general election not the primaries. According to Kos it seems they’re not for anything now. Hmmm, isn’t that good for our side?
Anybody who considers themself a moderate Dem has to see this. They have to know that their party is being taken in this direction. Myself, I’ve never been one. So I don’t know the thinking. But I would think this would make a centrist scratch their head. Blind faith can do anything I guess. But I know I had to stop that video a few times just to say what the hell? But, that’s just me.
PowWow on August 7, 2007 at 5:59 PM
Fair enough, thuja. Several posters, including my invisible post, noted uncomplimentary personal characteristics. But JayHaw didn’t. So the gay – violence connection isn’t there. Let’s not invent it.
Jaibones on August 7, 2007 at 6:56 PM
I would just like to add…. GOOD GRIEF!
kahall on August 7, 2007 at 8:41 PM
Nice picture of Kos and all his friends.
Maxx on August 7, 2007 at 11:44 PM
That guy Kos looks like a slightly thinner version of a nerd I went to public school with. He, too, was Greek. He had those fat cheeks that Kos has, the same hair, same eyes, same mouth, if I didn’t know better, I would say it was him. Except my nerd friend is older.
I don’t know where these youngins get off being political when they aren’t old enough to truly understand how the world works.
jihadwatcher on August 8, 2007 at 7:39 AM
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