Rudy’s daughter supporting Obama for prez? Update: Climbdown
posted at 12:13 pm on August 6, 2007 by Allahpundit
It’s hardly ironclad proof, Slate’s breathless assertion that Rudy “definitely” can’t count on her vote notwithstanding. But as Frank Foer might say, there’s “near certainty” that it’s true.
The DNC’s going to have a field day with it.
Update: Her spokesman urges us not to read too much into it. Uh huh.
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I read a long time ago that both his kids were not supporting his presidential run. Considering their age, no surprise they would lean left. And, I’m sure a lot of it has to do with how he treated their mother. Can’t blame them for that, either.
Blake on August 6, 2007 at 12:16 PM
I haven’t been an observer of politics for that long but Reagan’s kids were all over the place from what I remember. I think the estrangement is sad. But, I don’t care who a self described liberal is voting for. Not any liberal, no matter who her father is.
D0WNT0WN on August 6, 2007 at 12:21 PM
“I killed a man…with this thumb.”
jdpaz on August 6, 2007 at 12:22 PM
This is just further proof to me that this guy cannot win. We are just fools if we nominate him.
You don’t think the general population cares about stuff like this? They care more about this than the issues.
Rightwingsparkle on August 6, 2007 at 12:23 PM
thats it – I’m selling my kids!
EricPWJohnson on August 6, 2007 at 12:23 PM
That was humor – however those that know him best – hate him
Hmmmm
Oh yeah lets put the future of our families in someone who cannot commit to his own
EricPWJohnson on August 6, 2007 at 12:25 PM
So what? At least we know he wont be hiring her to run his PAC so he can get $170,000 into her pockets when he should be helping conservative causes.
csdeven on August 6, 2007 at 12:27 PM
I’m not surprised.
For many years, long before his WH bid, Rudy has reminded me of somebody who had once married into my family. He married my aunt, they had several kids together and then years later when they got divorced one of his daughters changed her last name. None of his kids want to have anything to do with their father and it has nothing to do with politics.
FloatingRock on August 6, 2007 at 12:27 PM
As someone already pointed out, Reagan’s kids were flaming moonbats.
Blake on August 6, 2007 at 12:31 PM
Wait til the run the story about Jeri voting for Paul.
Limerick on August 6, 2007 at 12:32 PM
Rudy laughed off the “what was your biggest mistake?” question in the debate yesterday, but in all seriousness, his family issues are going to be a big detriment to his candidacy. A lot of his support has been based on his post-9/11 popularity and name recognition, but when family-minded voters turn out, they will consider how he has managed his own house. I don’t think they will want to support a man who barely speaks to his own kids. Pardon the reference, but I can’t help recall the quote from the Godfather…”A man who doesn’t spend time with his family can never be a real man.”
CP on August 6, 2007 at 12:33 PM
but if he treats his family like that, imagine what he’ll do to the terrorists!
AdrianG on August 6, 2007 at 12:36 PM
Rudy’s daughter’s mother is the lefty moonbat, former news anchorette and former actress in the “Vagina Monologues” (I kid you not) Donna Hanover.
She has undoubtedly poisoned her kids against their father Rudy, his new wife, and all that Rudy stands for.
His son Andy is well known to New Yorkers as the ultra bratty and annoying 11 year old who hyperactively pranced around during his father’s initial Inaugural speech as mayor in 93.
Its a sad situation that the bitchy former wife has poisoned the kids against their father, but it happens and life goes on.
It says NOTHING at all about Rudy’s policies, political beliefs or ability to be Prez. Any more than Ronaldus Magnus’s fruity son Ron says anything at all about the lasting significance of the Reagan presidency.
Always Right on August 6, 2007 at 12:36 PM
As someone already pointed out, Reagan’s kids were flaming moonbats.
True, but they always loved him.
Rightwingsparkle on August 6, 2007 at 12:40 PM
Not all Reagan’s kids are flaming moonbats. Michael Reagan has always struck me as a great conservative. Ron, Jr. is the moonbat. I’m not familiar with Patti’s politics, although it wouldn’t surprise me if she were a moonbat, too.
Alia on August 6, 2007 at 12:40 PM
Oh, and Maureen wasn’t a moonbat.
Rightwingsparkle on August 6, 2007 at 12:40 PM
I have no idea what he’s like as a family man. But not great, I’m gathering.
If that’s why they’re not supporting him, ouch. That could hurt and should.
(Fred Thompson has a record of treating ladies with class, even ex-girlfriends, if someone’s looking for an alternative. John McCain, Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee and others also do.)
If, however, it’s just their politics, that’s no big deal. They have a right to support whomever they want.
It’s not like having a child disagree with you politically seriously hurt Reagan.
Not equating Rudy Guiliani with Reagan!
Christoph on August 6, 2007 at 12:41 PM
On immediate topic – these kids have Rudy and Donna genes, and mostly Donna’s influence.
Doesn’t excuse Rudy, but won’t be easy on him either. I’m sure the ‘understanding’ media and libs will mitigate all this.
Entelechy on August 6, 2007 at 12:41 PM
I forgot about Michael! That’s right. He is a great conservative.
Rightwingsparkle on August 6, 2007 at 12:41 PM
Agree wholeheartedly with the quote, but there is a big difference between what the country needs in a President and what a family/society needs in an individual man.
In time of war, we need a decisive, articulate and efficient executive to lead us to victory….I can’t imagine anyone better suited for that than Rudy.
EduardoOTI on August 6, 2007 at 12:41 PM
Have a few rebellious children. Not many, but a few.
captivated_dem on August 6, 2007 at 12:45 PM
A few ironies:
- this will make Bill Clinton smell like a rose
- the kid would be executed under a, say, Saddam Hussein.
If our country gets hit in a big way, it won’t matter so much as it won’t look to elect a daddy. If not, the left will claim there is no WoT and that we need a dad/mom to redistribute the wealth to all those ‘needy chilren’ out there (and I don’t mean little ones either).
Entelechy on August 6, 2007 at 12:53 PM
Why Obama instead of Mrs. Clinton?
SouthernGent on August 6, 2007 at 12:57 PM
I identify with Giuliani’s kids. Whether this news tidbit is true doesn’t really matter. I don’t blame them for siding with their mother during their parents’ divorce. They may not be lefty so much as they are just siding with whoever is against their dad. I would do the same if my old man were running for president. Some things are hard to forgive. Trust me, I know.
mram on August 6, 2007 at 12:58 PM
Rudy’s a open borders, pro-abortionist, gun grabber, I won’t vote for him either.
Rode Werk on August 6, 2007 at 1:10 PM
If you look at the facebook profile Slate provided she’s looking for “random play” and “whatever I can get.”
I’d hate to see that one on my daughter’s profile page. Talk about an awkward moment.
Regardless, I couldn’t care less what the politics of a 17 year old kid happen to be. Go Rudy.
watchmen on August 6, 2007 at 1:13 PM
A child can even love and respect their parents and not agree with them politically.
My father is one of the most well-read and thoughtful men that I know.
My father is also a tax-and-spend liberal union man.
We have fundamentally different views on private property and wealth and whether or not it’s the government’s job to take care of everyone.
If he were running for President, I’d have a hard time supporting him, because he believes in all the policies that I think hurt our country. If I were running for President, he’d probably feel the same way.
JadeNYU on August 6, 2007 at 1:14 PM
Churchill would not have been leader of GB had it not been for the times. Hitler couldn’t have risen to power had it not been for the times.
Just what times do u think we’re in? Which candidate couldn’t be there except for the times. When you find HIM, vote for him.
JiangxiDad on August 6, 2007 at 1:19 PM
Patti sure didn’t. They made their peace in the end, as I understand it, but there was some serious ugliness before that.
Tanya on August 6, 2007 at 1:21 PM
These times…
Entelechy on August 6, 2007 at 1:24 PM
Some things are hard to forgive.
True. And when you think about what he did by publically humilating their mother and then taking up with his mistress in public as well and then marrying her. Remember, they had to experience his leaving them for another woman.
Tanya,
I know Patti wrote about being hurt by his absence, but I don’t remember her saying anything ugly about him or denying how much she loved him. I do remember serious ugliness with her mother though.
Rightwingsparkle on August 6, 2007 at 1:30 PM
Geez, they’re suggesting that Rudys’ 17 year old kid is going to vote for someone else.
What’s next? Someone reporting that Hillary is Gay?
there it is on August 6, 2007 at 1:32 PM
Nope. She couldn’t stand him for awhile. Reagan persevered.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/11/18/patti.davis/index.html
EduardoOTI on August 6, 2007 at 1:42 PM
That news about Rudy’s daughter in juxtaposition to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCIPzIL1GvQ
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5OXwWFONqs
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7aPlHxgWFI
could hurt Rudy. As the current clear Republican front runner the press is going to eat Rudy alive with this slow news day/month opportunity. For them this story is just what the doctor ordered. The story will cause people to look at the candidates families. That will be very positive turn of events for Mitt. Rudy needs news to happen – NOW!
Zetterson on August 6, 2007 at 2:08 PM
on facebook you can choose which things like that show up. all she had todo to hide the fact she left the group was hit an “x” to the right of that sentence. that makes me think that she wasnt trying too hard to hide that she was (and maybe still is) an obama supporter.
its vintage duh on August 6, 2007 at 2:10 PM
This is a better video then above.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPOau8SOAlM&mode=related&search=
Zetterson on August 6, 2007 at 2:12 PM
Umm, the girl is young and identifies herself as a Liberal. Might I remind you that two of Reagan’s children, Ron and Patti, are Liberal. Patti was against nuclear weapons, for gay rights and pro-choice.
Ron Reagan is strongly opposed to the war in Iraq, was for embryonic stem cell research, and voted for Kerry in ’04.
The children of candidates don’t always agree politically with their parents.
amerpundit on August 6, 2007 at 2:32 PM
Giuliani could speak at the dining room table and only 1/2 of the family would show up.
Constant Parrhesia on August 6, 2007 at 3:01 PM
RWS, I don’t exactly like the way he dealt with his family, but let’s face it: We’re not dealing with an infinite number of choices here. Sadly, or not so sadly, your guy is going nowhere fast.
Unrelated . . . this was a good one:
Attila (Pillage Idiot) on August 6, 2007 at 3:09 PM
Why is this news? Why are people wasting time analyzing this? The girl is 17. Do we REALLY care how she is going to vote? When I was 22 I voted for Clinton. Just goes to show that young people don’t know a 1/4 of what they THINK they know.
calirighty on August 6, 2007 at 4:14 PM
Rudy is dead to me now. How can I support him after this. Where is my Ron Paul ’08 button. I am sorry, but like I have said before Rudy is my choice, He is the strongest candidate on the war against radical islam. I may not agree with him on every issue, but I think if we do not fight this enemy with everything we have, everything we hold sacred will not matter. Do I wish Rudy shared my feelings on abortion, and the 2nd amendment, of course I do. What do you guys believe Rudy is going to swoop in, and round up your guns. As far as abortion, how much worse could it get. I am curious if you guys think Reagen could get the GOP nomination with his open borders/amnesty views, or would he have to flip flop on this heated issue. I think we need to find a nominee that can defeat Hillary, and then take it to the terrorist. For me this is America’s Mayor. I think if we try to find the perfect conservatave candidate we are going to be waiting a long time. Rudy’s resume does have quiet a few conservative value’s, national security, free market economy, lower taxes, welfare reform, fighting crime, just to name a few. I guess my point is we are at a very crucial time in our history, and we need to realize what the consequences of having the USA in the total control of the Democrats. Whoever the nominee is for the GOP, it will be better than the alternative. Unless it is Ron Paul, of course.
chief on August 6, 2007 at 5:00 PM
I just wonder though, calirighty, if your father was running against Clinton, would you have still been voting for Clinton back then?
Zetterson on August 6, 2007 at 5:08 PM
She’s removed herself from that facebook group now, and made a statement through her spokeswoman.
She has a spokeswoman. At seventeen. I really need to catch up.
Tanya on August 6, 2007 at 5:39 PM
What difference would it make who I voted for? Are you suggesting people should vote for family members despite their ideological differences? I have more respect for someone who has their OWN ideas and beliefs than I do for a person who casts a vote for someone strictly because they family. Again, I ask. Why is this news and why are you wasting bandwidth on it?
calirighty on August 6, 2007 at 6:37 PM
calrighty,
Excuse me if I think this says alot about Rudy. How a child feels about their father says so much about the father.
Most people who have had good men as fathers, look to their father as a hero. This is obviously not the case. She isn’t an adult with her “own ideas.” She is 17, a time where most girls adore their father.
Get a clue.
Rightwingsparkle on August 6, 2007 at 6:52 PM
I agree; I’ll settle for a non-perfect conservative… as long as they’re somewhat reliably conservative. Unfortunately Rudy doesn’t fit the bill, nor does McCain or Mitt, recent miraculous conversions aside.
It just amazes me that so many who are angry at Bush for refusing to stand up for conservative principles are currently supporting candidates who have a record of not standing for conservative principles. The top three declared candidates should’ve been booed off the stage months ago.
Hollowpoint on August 6, 2007 at 6:55 PM
Next time maybe you should try comprehending what I wrote instead of insulting me. I KNOW she is only 17 and I KNOW she doesn’t have her own ideas. That was the point I was trying to make. Apparently you missed it. There are a lot of great men out there who STILL have bad relationships with their kids. I remember 17. I remember not having a good relationship with my father. I also remember it was because I was young and I was an idiot. My whole point is that WHATEVER her opinion is of her dad it is not NEWSWORTHY because it is no shock to anyone about the state of the Guiliani family relations. There are better things to be reporting on and this entire thread was a waste if time.
calirighty on August 6, 2007 at 7:25 PM
I have massive issues with 1 & 3 and I don’t see how I could every vote for him in good conscience.
Agree 100%!
deepdiver on August 6, 2007 at 10:48 PM
Regardless of her position…
Umm, guys…
Are we truly surprised that a child rebels against his or her parents–even late in life? C’mon y’all…a daughter thumbs her nose at her dad? Umm…
What’s next? A Dog Bites Man story will shock ya?
Pfft. This is a non-story. I mean, look at Reagan’s kids!
Montana on August 7, 2007 at 1:43 AM
This is where the rubber meets the road, without question. But the blatant infidelity and lack of respect for/from his children will greatly hurt him among some who would have ignored the major issues listed above.
Freelancer on August 7, 2007 at 3:05 AM