saltydogg14 on August 7, 2007 at 8:59 AM

Because he leased it to create the image that he was a good old boy. He also had his staffers drive it to within a few blocks of his rallies where fred? would meet them in his Washington insider-type high end luxury car. He would then drive the truck to the rally site. They would reverse the process after the rally.

csdeven on August 7, 2007 at 8:08 AM

They use to say Ricky Bobby couldn’t drive too… we all know how that turned out. If you’re not first you’re last!

btw why is his red pickup truck fake?

He brags about his poll numbers like a AA ballplayer who brags that he has more homers than a major leaguer.

He fools his blind ignorant supporters to believe he is a good old boy because he has a fake red pickup.

His groupies believe he doesn’t act when he is on TV. He just shows up and acts natural.

Well, it appears that this just doesn’t extend to fred?. They have allowed several news organizations, and his supporters to heap praise on Jeri as being smart because she has a law degree. It is being reported by the Washington Post that Jeri Thompson, is not, and never has been a lawyer. Oh course this cannot be true because the screaming and crying hair renting groupies will tell us all we have to consider the source.

Well, I guess we’ll just wait and see, but judging by freds? propensity to lie and fake out his supporters, I’m leaning towards this story being true.

I hope freds? supporters can get their donations back. I think fred? is going to eventually drop out of the race, take all the contributions to his non-campaign and do “what is done in Washington” with them. Namely, get it into the pockets of his relatives and do little to nothing for conservative causes.

Meh, maybe I just don’t get Mormon humor.

Hollowpoint on August 7, 2007 at 2:01 AM

My biggest fear with Mitt was that the liberal media would wait until after the Primaries, and then take advantage of the public’s lack of knowledge about the Mormon faith – by portraying its practitioners as a bunch of hyper-zealous nutjobs.

But it looks like somebody’s trying to beat them to the punch.

Seriously though, I don’t skip all of Csdeven’s posts, only on certain topics like this one where it’s about Fred yet not very interesting.
FloatingRock on August 6, 2007 at 10:36 PM

“Interesting” is a relative term.

Somebody out there has cut, pasted, cross-indexed and archived this story so he will be able to reference it two dozen times a day for the next eight years. And, just to be on the safe side, he also had it tattooed to the inside of his eyelids lest he forget while he sleeps.

And that’s not even the craziest part. The craziest part is that the psycho actually thinks YOU are the one who has the “fixation.”

Seriously though, I don’t skip all of Csdeven’s posts, only on certain topics like this one where it’s about Fred yet not very interesting.

FloatingRock on August 6, 2007 at 10:36 PM

I’ve accidentally read his posts on other subjects, and found I’m not missing anything by ignoring him. The man is a simpleton with nothing to offer on any subject; mostly he makes obvious points and unfunny jokes when not discussing Fred, then he goes into full troll mode. Meh, maybe I just don’t get Mormon humor.

Apparently, some conservatives believe that EVERY liberal snipe has to be addressed – no matter how incredibly banal. The problem is that when you’re arguing with idiots and you take them seriously, you’ve already lost.

logis on August 6, 2007 at 2:46 PM

“Never argue with an idiot. They just drag you down to their level and beat you with expirience.” – Dilbert

I’ve gotten in the habit of checking the author of a post before reading and skipping yours completely…

Hollowpoint on August 6, 2007 at 7:57 PM

Hey, welcome to the club!

The point my friends, is that this RINO nonsense has the potential to tear us apart. I wonder if the Democrats with their jackbooted party unity are having a laugh at us as we tear into each other like a pack of angry wolves. If we do not stop tearing each other down and working against our own interests, the socialists of the Democratic Party win. So I implore you not to fall into the RINO trap. There are legitimate reasons to be concerned about candidates, but throwing RINO around like it’s the be-all and end-all reason not to vote for someone is idiotic.

Replace RINO with Mitt, Fred, Rudy and you’re looking at potentially the same result.

It says much that Fredheads point to a single Senate committee as proof of Fred’s experience. La dee freeking da, that still isn’t exucutive experience for the highest executive posiition in the land, its serving on a commitee with 8-10 other bureaucrats and getting nothing done.

Why would Fred be the best candidate again Hollowpoint? No seriously, you’ve never answered this. Time and time again you’ve pulled out “But Romney did this or but Rudy did that.” Why should I vote for Fred?

BKennedy on August 6, 2007 at 7:09 PM

A single Senate committee? Um… there’s a bit more to it than that duder. A few of the highlights:

Chairman of the International Security Advisory Board.

Member of the Council on Foreign Relations.

Former member of the United States-China Economic and Security Review Commission.

AEI Scholar specializing in Diplomatic Relations and Foreign Intelligence with the American Enterprise Institute.

Special counsel, Senate Committee on Intelligence, 1982

Special counsel, Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, 1980-1981

Foreign Relations Committee, 1995-96

But yeah, Romney’s vast experience on the Olympic Committee definately trumps all that. Damn terrorist figure skaters- he sure kept them in line.

In the Senate, Fred had a record of backing conservative, federalist values, the anomoly of his ill advised support of campaign finance aside. He’s addressed the people repeatedly directly through his blog posts and radio shows, unafraid to take controversial positions he believes in (Scooter Libby). He hasn’t done a sudden 180 on the issues depending on what election he’s running for as has Romney. He’s not a gun-grabber, and not a Big Government Conservative as are Bush and Romney, both of whom have advocated big government health care and education. Fred didn’t run from the Republican party and the legacy of Ronald Reagan in one election, then embrace them the next.

Since electability does matter, it’s noteworthy that he went from rumor to frontrunner in a matter of a few months, where the likes of Mitt have stagnated despite a campaign that’s been in the works for 2 years, with a previous election average of .500. In his first Senate race, he went from being way behind to trouncing his opponent.

Is it worth considering that he’s not had the executive experience of being a governor or such? Sure, that’s a valid concern. Fortunately, the likely Dem nominees don’t have such experience either. Personally, I’ll take the conservative without a governorship under his belt over a political cameleon with a single term of a liberal state to his credit.

If you’re a Bushesque “Compassionate Conservative” who wants more gun control and a government mandated health care program, then yeah- Romney should be your guy. Me, I’ll pass.

Hollowpoint on August 6, 2007 at 7:57 PM

Finally! Now we wont have to ignore your asinine fixation on little old me.

A zealot is a zealot;
Bwahahahahahaha!!!!
Zealot!? Bwahahahahaha!!
csdeven on August 6, 2007 at 7:26 PM

I don’t guess I really have anything to add to this…

csdeven on August 6, 2007 at 7:17 PM

Did you say something? I’ve gotten in the habit of checking the author of a post before reading and skipping yours completely, knowing they’ll be completely worthless anyways.

Jeri!

- The Cat

MirCat on August 6, 2007 at 6:52 PM

hahaha

Run Jeri! Run!

A zealot is a zealot;

Bwahahahahahaha!!!!

freds? supporters think fred? just shows up on the lot and is himself for his TV show. They think his wife is a reason he is qualified to be president. They think 8 years as a do nothing senator is executive experience. They think that his lobbying will be well received by regular Joe voters.

Zealot!? Bwahahahahaha!! You obviously have no clue what that word means because freds? groupies are the epitome of zealot-dom!

Hollowpoint on August 6, 2007 at 6:30 PM

Mitts! qualifications have been listed several times and you dang well know it. You don’t accept them and that’s fine. But the entire group is waiting for you to defend freddie boy on his lobbying past, his piss poor record in the senate, and point to some kind of executive experience.

You have yet to explain why his support for McCain/Feingold isn’t clear proof that his federalist mantra is BS. He assaulted the first amendment and now pretends it isn’t working the way he wanted. He bucked conservative causes in the senate and gave lip service to pro-life positions after running on a pro-choice platform.

He took all the money from his senate campaign and put it into his own PAC so he could funnel $170,000 to his own son. AND THEN he has the gall to justify it because thats the way things are done in Washington.

His wife has his balls. She is the one who is driven to a desire for the power of the presidency, and she has to drag freddie boy along just because he was a star on a TV show.

He lobbied against americans with asbestos poisoning in an attempt to deny them the right to be represented by council. He lobbied for a dictator. He lobbied for an abortion group and then LIED about it. He lobbied for a nuclear power plant that was scraped after it cost the public billions of dollars.

When fred? had the choice to work for conservative causes verses lining his pocket with cash from unscrupulous clients, he chose the cash.

You must be soooooo proud!

It says much that Romney supporters spend so little time explaining why he would be the best candidate, but so much time attacking those with more relevant experience and a much better chance of winning the general election. You reek of desperation.

It says much that Fredheads point to a single Senate committee as proof of Fred’s experience. La dee freeking da, that still isn’t exucutive experience for the highest executive posiition in the land, its serving on a commitee with 8-10 other bureaucrats and getting nothing done.

Why would Fred be the best candidate again Hollowpoint? No seriously, you’ve never answered this. Time and time again you’ve pulled out “But Romney did this or but Rudy did that.” Why should I vote for Fred?

I know why I’m voting for Romney. Even if he didn’t serve on some faceless, meaningless committee with the words “international” and “security” in its name, he knows the tactics of our enemy and how they gain influence. He has had invaluable private and public sector executive experiences. He has worked magic in turning around budgets. I’ve explained this to you over and over again Hollowpoint, but you’re only interested in blindly supporting your shameless lobbyist-turned no-note Senator-turned Hollyweird actor.

One last thing: Maybe next time you make a comment on the swimmer and how easy he is to defeat, try selling that line to someone who doesn’t live in the state where he resides?

All I’ve seen from Fred is “I wanna be President cause I wanna do stuff, stuff only a Pres can do, yeah, thats it!”

As to Fredheads, all I’ve seen is “Fred is an infallible God of manhood. He is the most conservative out of all the candidates, despite having absolutely no record indicating so. None dare oppose his might!”

And its strange that you believe Romney is “trailing badly” when he’s at the top of the NH and Iowa polls. You know, the early primary states. There’s no such thing as a national election poll. New Hampshire doesn’t ask California for permission first before voting. Moreover, the general doesn’t have 20 candidates running, it has 2, 3 if Nader gets back in the game. Mitt could be running at 0% of the vote in California and New York and still win the election.

- The Cat

Oh, and perhaps you forgot Romney has had to work with international leaders before. Something about the Olympics or something?
BKennedy on August 6, 2007 at 5:36 PM

Again, so many words, so few legitimate points. Serving on the silly Olympic Committee is working with “international leaders”??? Do you honestly believe your own absurdities? Can you name one “international leader” who was on the nearly meaningless Olympic Committee? I can’t. A governor certainly doesn’t qualify as an international leader- hell, not even as a national leader. If being on the Olympic Committee counts as foreign policy experience then so does my time in the Minneapolis International Airport waiting for a flight. Maybe I should run.

And while poll numbers can and will change in the next 6 months, Romney has been working on his campaign for a solid 2 years now, and announced 8 months ago… yet he’s still trailing badly with little improvement. If after 3 debates and plenty of exposure he can’t gain traction, he simply won’t. And given his “moderate” history and recent big government conservatism, he shouldn’t.

It says much that Romney supporters spend so little time explaining why he would be the best candidate, but so much time attacking those with more relevant experience and a much better chance of winning the general election. You reek of desperation.

All I’ve seen so far is “hey, I’m from Massachussetts, he was governor here, so I’m backing him no matter what and attacking all who oppose him!” Well, that and co-religionists desperate to get a Mormon in the White House, no matter what his many shortcomings.

I’m disgusted by the abject hatred and condescention shown by certain people toward anyone who might support Fred.

How about the sort of RINO ALERT ALL CYLYNDERS! That Fredheads engage in against any other candidate? For reference, see Hollowpoints latest screed.

Fred deserves what he gets: he’s all image no action, and that image has been crumbling slowly, surely, even here at HotAir, mostly because there are enough people wise enough to know a poser when they see one. I kind of want more proof when AP blogs about Fred’s “Alpha Male” status, when the only thing he has that indicates anything like that is his height. Well sorry, I don’t view being 6-foot-6 as a valid criterion for President. I’ve never seen Alpha anything out of Fred. I do not know why HotAir holds him is such esteem when its quite clear he has done nothing to deserve so much as our attention. If we posted half as much about Duncan Hunter as we do about Fred Thompson, maybe we’d have a shot at getting a real conservative who has taken real action to help conservative causes into the mainstream.

Instead, we’re focusing on a Hollyweird actor with a shameless lobbyist past who has done absolutely nothing for conservative causes in his entire life, other than perhaps make a speech or two. If we had to latch on to someone who needed a conservative site to help him move anywhere, it should have been someone like Duncan Hunter.

Everyone knows Fred was a Senator, which means in whatever limited capacity he had to deal with some manner of foreign policy. Foreign Policy is mostly the purview of the President, not Congress.

Thing is, Barack, Hillary, McCain, and Edwards were all Senators too. Hell, Hillary Clinton, much as I dispise the socialist, can certainly tote a better foreign policy experience record than Fred.

And yes, I did call csdeven a one-trick pony, which is name-calling, so call me a hypocrit. I know it’s coming.

/rolling eyes

No relevant experience? Huh? A former one-term governor who lost a Senate race against a fat, drunken buffon or a former mayor have more experience in foriegn policy and national politics than someone who chaired an advisory committee on international security and served 8 years in national government? The FlipFlop Mitt supporters are becoming almost as irrational as the Ron Paul cultists.

That Fat, Drunken buffoon (Ted Kennedy) happens to be the most politically protected entity in history. I bet your macho man Fred, who hasn’t even worked for anything other than Washington or fantasyland, much less been a success at anything, could unseat him though, right? He’s just a fat drunken slob, one who wins every election by around 70%. Living in Massachusetts, I personally wish anyone would kick the swimmer out, but it’s apparent that Hollow points, like many of Fred’s groupies does not go past skin deep analysis.

But I bet Fred beats Teddy in Hollowpoint’s world of fantasy football. Why, he could come up from Tennesee and win with 70% of the vote.

And please, Senate Commitees have foreign policy experience? HA. Explain Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi then, whose idea of foreign policy is kowtowing to the enemy. “International Security” under Clinton was a joke, and that’s when Fred served, so I guess he was a bureaucrat in an unused function. Whoops.

Oh, and perhaps you forgot Romney has had to work with international leaders before. Something about the Olympics or something? You know, that which was bankrupted and destroyed by corruption restored by Romney’s immense private sector knowledge? What is Fred’s stance on corruption? He’ll eat at any trough that shows up to his lobby desk, funnel funds to his immediate family while doing dip for conservative causes, and sign off on CFR.

As to polls? This early, polls mean jack. And since Fred isn’t actually a candidate yet, any poll numbers he has are null and void. After all, he’s participated in no debates, all we’ll get from is website is 20-year old rhetoric with no action behind it. Fred’s greatest conservative achievement is providing a big fat check for his son’s consulting company. That’ll please those capitalism lovers the Democrats.

Hillary Clinton is poll guided and so apparently are Fredheads. Aren’t Fredites always saying the election is too far away as an excuse for Fred’s late entry? Well, apparently it isn’t too late to be projecting out poll results to 15 months of now. Good job Fredheads, so which is it? Too early because Fred hasn’t thrown his hat in the ring, or poll results from today are infallible predictions of November 2008? Pick one Fredheads, your on almost as much shaky ground as Fred!