Foiled terror plot in South Carolina?

posted at 12:22 am on August 5, 2007 by Allahpundit

I’m going to guess that whatever it is they found in the trunk will turn out not to be a bomb, but in the meantime here’s the link.

No immediate threat, say the feds.

Update (MM): Some interesting details about the area where the car was stopped.

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They probably just stopped at South of the Border for some fireworks.

That second link cracks me up though. Could they possibly be more premature and vague in their “reporting”? I wish the media was more concerned with being correct than being first.

reaganaut on August 5, 2007 at 12:30 AM

Goose Creek is home to the Naval Weapons Station and the U.S. Naval Consolidated Brig, a military prison where enemy combatants have been held.

Guardian on August 5, 2007 at 12:50 AM

From the closest station WCBD:

Lombardo also said information from an investigation in another jurisdiction raised the suspicions of the deputies.

We’ll have to wait.

thegreatbeast on August 5, 2007 at 1:18 AM

Goose Creek is home to the Naval Weapons Station and the U.S. Naval Consolidated Brig, a military prison where enemy combatants have been held.

Guardian on August 5, 2007 at 12:50 AM

Yes it is and so much so that when I use TopZone mapping (for genealogy research purposes) that entire area is blocked out.

Texas Gal on August 5, 2007 at 1:24 AM

Probably nothing….. Bet a dollar to a donut it is a false alarm, (Well, maybe a dry run/ probe at worst.)

But even if it turns to be filled with semtex with cell phone detonators, anthrax and plutonium, I’m sure the feds will reassure us all that there never was any danger and no connection at all to terrorism.

LegendHasIt on August 5, 2007 at 1:26 AM

They were probably going fishing.

Bradky on August 5, 2007 at 1:29 AM

There’s a also a sparkling new bridge spanning the Cooper River in Charleston. They could have been on their way to try and take it down. It wouldn’t surprise me. Although taking out a Naval station…even a scaled down one…would be a prize in itself.

SouthernGent on August 5, 2007 at 1:53 AM

Jose Padilla is one the prisoners there.

TruthToBeTold on August 5, 2007 at 2:35 AM

Anyone else surprised that the Huffington Post and Kos have NOTHING on this?

RightWinged on August 5, 2007 at 4:01 AM

Anyone else surprised that the Huffington Post and Kos have NOTHING on this?

RightWinged on August 5, 2007 at 4:01 AM

That should read:

Anyone else NOT surprised that the Huffington Post and Kos have NOTHING on this?

RightWinged on August 5, 2007 at 4:01 AM

RightWinged on August 5, 2007 at 4:02 AM

My ex-wife is from Goose Creek. So, yes, there are terrorists there.

james hooker on August 5, 2007 at 4:24 AM

Prediction,

Based on the action and words of several Federal organizations, such as Homeland Security, as well as several media outlets, the Hollywood and music world celebrities who get immediate attention, and a voice via a microphone and the media, as well as the left wing, fifth column Internet network, and organizations such as CAIR, we will always be told immediately, before an investigation, and before anyone really knows what is really taking place, every single suspicious or destructive incident is “Not the work of terrorists.”

At this pace, we might as well give up on the “War on Terror” and all just watch TV, eat bon bons, and go back to sleep!

William

William2006 on August 5, 2007 at 5:13 AM

Rightwinged, both ways of saying it get the point across.

No, I am not surprised (say what I mean version), and yes, I am suprised they did not mention it (sarcastic version).

William

William2006 on August 5, 2007 at 5:14 AM

By the way, I’m not jumping to conclusions about what happened here.. could be something as stupid as the civil war sub guys in New York… but it’s obviously and intriguing story, and it’s telling that the top liberal blogs never see fit to cover these breaking stories.

In the event that it does turn out to have any ties to terrorism, expect the inevitable whining from liberal blogs that this is just another Bush distraction, trying to scare us so that he can spy on your phone calls, that these guys were just “nobodies” with no ties to Bin Laden (so they don’t really matter), that their plans were not well developed, etc. Just wait, if these guys were up to no good, you will hear pretty much exactly what I said from the top liberal blogs, etc. Besides, they have more important things to do… like blame Bush for bridge collapses.

RightWinged on August 5, 2007 at 5:37 AM

This is why we need to keep open GITMO.

Tony737 on August 5, 2007 at 7:02 AM

thanks to all the night owls for keeping the details flowing.

BTW, KP was just on Fox and Friends…

Zorro on August 5, 2007 at 7:21 AM

A very good friend of mine was Chief of security of that Naval base for the last 5 or so years (just left the job). Above poster is right, that’s where Padilla is.

LtE126 on August 5, 2007 at 8:12 AM

Not to worry, the REAL Al Qaeda is only in the mountainous regions of Afghanistan.
Or maybe I’ve been watching too much C-Span.

The lefty sites will pick this up quickly as proof that President Bush is trying to scare us.

Just as a nuke on Mecca would unite the Muslim world, mass casualties here would unite this country. If Al Qaeda believes that the war in Iraq is settled (either way) we will be hit again and hit hard.

TunaTalon on August 5, 2007 at 8:40 AM

When the Feds say “no immediate threat,” they just mean the stuff is quite safe until the detonator is attached or the fuse is lit…

rbb on August 5, 2007 at 9:39 AM

My ex-wife is from Goose Creek. So, yes, there are terrorists there.

james hooker on August 5, 2007 at 4:24 AM

too funny!

Zorro on August 5, 2007 at 9:43 AM

It’s probably nothing. Something similar happened near Denver awhile back. Some guy was jogging and an object about the size of a brick fell from the sky. The guy called the cops. When they showed up they called the number on the object. Turned out to most likely be a data collector from a weather balloon belonging to the national weather service. They blew it up anyway! Can we be anymore afraid these days?

boomer on August 5, 2007 at 9:57 AM

Olbermann will question the timing, no doubt.

major john on August 5, 2007 at 10:06 AM

I went straight to my Senator on this one and Mr. Graham informed me that a fix in border security that he is working on would solve this problem in the future.

I asked him if he was speaking about the Mexican border? “Oh no” he said, “I’m speaking of the North Carolina, Georgia, and Florida border.”

We can all sleep better tonight!

CharlestonCritic on August 5, 2007 at 10:06 AM

boomer on August 5, 2007 at 9:57 AM

I’m not getting how the Denver incident of bricks falling from the sky is similar to this one.

CharlestonCritic on August 5, 2007 at 10:06 AM

I went straight to my Senator on this one and Mr. Graham informed me that a fix in border security that he is working on would solve this problem in the future.

You went straight to your Senator with WHAT on “this one”??

Buy Danish on August 5, 2007 at 10:32 AM

Did vehicle have one of Silky Pony’s “war on terror” bumper stickers?

saved on August 5, 2007 at 11:06 AM

My ex-wife is from Goose Creek. So, yes, there are terrorists there.

james hooker on August 5, 2007 at 4:24 AM

LOL.. James, you’re so bad .. ;)

Texas Gal on August 5, 2007 at 11:14 AM

Uhh… Does anyone here know if the car was headed toward the base or away from the base?

faraway on August 5, 2007 at 12:17 PM

What’s the big deal? It’s the south. Everyone has explosive devices of some kind.

John from OPFOR on August 5, 2007 at 12:23 PM

It’s interesting, but I’m not seeing any facts which make me buy a terrorist scenario yet. It sounds like the cops stopped a couple guys who were squirrelly, searched their car, found something suspicious in the trunk, and called in the feds to figure it all out.

I had a friend, Khaldoun, from Jordan in grad school who had some sort of international driver’s license that wasn’t valid in the US but he didn’t bother to get a local license. He was a bad driver who sped and parked illegally. He threw the parking tickets away, figuring he’d be back in Jordan before they caught up with him. When the cops stopped him, he showed them his international license and pretend he couldn’t understand English. Often, the cops just didn’t want to deal with it and sent him on his way. That’s the way the game is played in the Middle East where the cops are all crooks and people don’t have any respect for rule of law which is inflicted on them capriciously.

Now, I can speculate where a couple Arab kids enrolled in college here could be playing that game. Maybe school’s out and they’re driving around America to see the sights. Maybe on Sep 10, the cop would have let them go. After Sep 11, no cop wants to be the guy who let Mohammed Atta go on a traffic stop. So the kid’s stories ring false and the cop searches the car and there’s funny-looking stuff back there. The cops and feds are cocked and locked, eager to bust a terrorist, so they are all over the scene like ants on a sugar cube.

So far, on the facts presented, I give it a 5% chance that it’s anything related to terrorism.

Tantor on August 5, 2007 at 12:25 PM

I found it, they were headed West (away from the base. So, maybe these guys were smuggling some explosives bought from someone on the base.

faraway on August 5, 2007 at 12:39 PM

Were these guys doctors? Is that a Mercedes they were driving?

faraway on August 5, 2007 at 12:42 PM

Hmmm, yes interesting, we’ll just have to wait and see…

4shoes on August 5, 2007 at 1:12 PM

It’s probably nothing. Something similar happened near Denver awhile back. Some guy was jogging and an object about the size of a brick fell from the sky. The guy called the cops. When they showed up they called the number on the object. Turned out to most likely be a data collector from a weather balloon belonging to the national weather service. They blew it up anyway! Can we be anymore afraid these days?

boomer on August 5, 2007 at 9:57 AM

As I explained earlier, a “wait and see” approach is the way to handle this, because we don’t have any details yet… But how can you seriously compare something the size of a brick dropping out of the sky, to two middle easterners being pulled over with explosive devices in their car? “Can we be anymore afraid these days?” you ask? Uh, I’m not sure what “being afraid” has to do with a bomb squad blowing up what they identify as an explosive device, found in a vehicle with middle easterners (while we’re in a war against Islamists!)? What action should have been taken?

RightWinged on August 5, 2007 at 10:07 PM

I’m not getting how the Denver incident of bricks falling from the sky is similar to this one.

CharlestonCritic on August 5, 2007 at 10:06 AM

Well…The first story I read on it stated only that there was something suspicious in the trunk. Then suddenly the blow it up and it is reported there was no immediate threat. I sometimes wonder if law enforcement just loves to run around blowing up things. I did just get time to read the update and it seems that they did have some explosives. But, it’s not terror related. Again, seems like the media and some of our government officials like to blow things out of proportion. We’ll see about this case though.

boomer on August 5, 2007 at 10:42 PM

Boomer, as explained above, your comparison with the thing falling out of the sky is ridiculous. It’s not at all the same as middle eastern guys with explosives in their car… and perhaps you should have read the update before commenting, if your excuse is to wash… because those updates were up LONG before you commented.

And thanks for declaring:

But, it’s not terror related.

boomer on August 5, 2007 at 10:42 PM

So, you’re on the scene? Where they aren’t saying much and the men are still detained?

Here’s the absolute latest:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/08/05/highway.closed/index.html?section=cnn_latest

And FBI spokesman Richard Kolko told CNN, “We have not found a clear link to terrorism.”

Not having a clear link, is entirely different than “not terror related”… not to mention that “terrorism” is defined by different people differently. If some Islamists plot to blow up innocent people, but have no ties to anyone “officially” in Al Qaeda, some don’t consider it “terrorism”.

Again, I’m not saying anything even happened here, but I find that comparison of something falling out of the sky to this situation way off base.

Here’s how the article closes:

The law enforcement source, who insisted on anonymity, said the materials included at least one bomb and a number of bomb-making elements, including chemicals capable of being used in the production of bombs, fuses and igniters — small gunpowder charges used to ignite some explosives.

The Charleston County bomb squad responded, and traffic was halted along the road for 10 hours until the materials were detonated, reporter Venton Blandin of CNN affiliate WCIV said. He described the sound of the detonation as “fairly small.”

Police identified the men as Yousef Megahed, 21, and Ahmed Mohamed, 24, neither of whom is a U.S. citizen. They were being held at the Berkeley County Detention Center in Moncks Corner, South Carolina.

But federal officials cast doubt on the South Carolina authorities’ account Sunday night.

Federal law enforcement sources familiar with the case said no bomb was found — but the men arrested did not have ready explanations for materials found in the vehicle. That raised questions, which prompted local officials to contact the FBI and Joint Terrorism Task Force, the sources said.

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, the FBI, the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division and the Berkeley County Sheriff were investigating.

An officer at the detention center said explosives and possible immigration charges will likely be filed Monday. A news conference is scheduled for Monday at 11:30 a.m.

Whoa, just reading as I’m pasting this… Looks like a possible immigration angle!

RightWinged on August 5, 2007 at 11:05 PM

Ohh rockect motors. How scary. Guess I hit a button I didn’t even know what there RW.

boomer on August 6, 2007 at 8:34 AM

Anyone catch where these guys are students? University of South Florida?!??

I wonder how they may be connected to Sami al-Arian…

Miss_Anthrope on August 6, 2007 at 11:00 AM