DoD’s inspector general raps officers for endorsing Christian group in uniform
posted at 7:12 pm on August 4, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Yet another example of what can happen when you express personal opinions while in company dress. Remember when we covered this last year? Mikey Weinstein, head of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, promised at the time to “lay down a withering field of fire and leave sucking chest wounds on these people that are trying to destroy our Constitution.” Sounds like he ended up with flesh wounds instead, but the principle abides:
Investigators concluded that the officers should not have participated in the filming in 2005 of a 10-minute video for Christian Embassy, a nonprofit religious group, which ultimately used the video as a fundraising tool. While Christian Embassy has hosted prayer meetings at the Pentagon for years, the inspector general concluded that the officers’ endorsement of its activities — while in uniform, showing their rank and in the halls of the Pentagon — violated ethical rules.
“The overall circumstances of the interviews emphasized the speakers’ military status and affiliation and implied they were acting within the scope of their official positions as DoD spokespersons,” the report concluded…
Air Force Maj. Gens. Peter U. Sutton and Jack J. Catton Jr., and Army Brig. Gens. Vincent K. Brooks and Robert L. Caslen Jr. were singled out for failing to seek appropriate approval to participate in the video and for violating ethical rules by appearing in uniform while praising the religious group. Retired Army Col. Ralph G. Benson, a former Pentagon chaplain, was also criticized for allowing Christian Embassy unescorted access to the building to film the video and for misrepresenting the purpose of the effort as a promotion of the Pentagon chaplain’s office.
Here’s the group’s website. The video page is still there but I can’t get it to play anymore. You’ll have to make do with screencaps:







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I thought it was ill-advised when I first heard about it some months ago.
Officers have to lead soldiers of every religion… it’s alright for officers to be religious, but they shouldn’t be using their position to indoctrinate their soldiers into anything other than the military and patriotic ethos. Nor should chaplains be ‘misrepresenting’.
Christoph on August 4, 2007 at 7:28 PM
Agreed, as long as they aren’t being singled out because they are Christians.
Christian Embassy does good work. However, any good Christian will tell you that obeying authority is the right choice, unless that authority goes against God’s. (see Romans 13) That doesn’t seem to be the case here.
Ordinary1 on August 4, 2007 at 7:35 PM
I remember this. I wrote then:
I like being occasionally correct.
armylawyer on August 4, 2007 at 7:38 PM
Nice compilation of videos. Interesting topic.
congsan on August 4, 2007 at 7:41 PM
So you can give your heart to Jesus, but your ass belongs to The Corps
Theworldisnotenough on August 4, 2007 at 7:42 PM
I think a Tay Zonday video would be much more interesting.
Blake on August 4, 2007 at 7:57 PM
You are an evil, evil person.
Bad Candy on August 4, 2007 at 8:03 PM
And if these people broke protocol, they broke protocol. The military has strict rules about what you’re allowed to do in uniform, whaddya do? Whether you agree with their viewpoint or not. I didn’t know that the military had these rules before the Kos event, but I see the reason for it. See! HotAir is educational!
Bad Candy on August 4, 2007 at 8:07 PM
Apparently, according to what I understand from armylawyer (and I’m working on figuring this out so I could be wrong), they don’t.
Not if you’re in the individual ready reserve, anyway.
Christoph on August 4, 2007 at 8:11 PM
That Caslen guy looks intense. That is what I like to see in a military man. Even more so in a crusader. What we need is less secularism, and more Christian soldiers in US Army uniforms to take back the Holy Land and go on missionary duty to end this problem once and for all. Once they succeed, then we can turn our backs on our cultural and religious heritage, once again, and go back to feeling safe in our beds at night.
You know, all the world’s problems with islam can be solved in two generations. The average lifespan of a muslim is about 48. The average age in a muslim country in 19. In essense, muslim countries have only two generations at any one time and it it the younger of the two that do most of the damage. If you indoctrinate the children into a new religion, say Christianity, by the time that generation grows up, their kids will be non-muslim, and the last of the muslims will have died of natural causes having exceeded the the spectacularly short average lifespan of 48. Henceforth, Islam ceases to exist. With islam gone, the 21st century world will be at peace.
The recipe is simple. But of course, those in power would never hear of it. Thus, we shall live with islam’s terrors for the next 1000 years.
jihadwatcher on August 4, 2007 at 8:14 PM
Hoo-yah brits.
With the progress made in Iraq, although not so much as the increasingly wacko A.J. Strata would have you believe (note in that post where he says, “Save the Cheerleader, Save the World†”), this is excellent.
It looks like combat fatigue is not JUST something that applies to the West.
†AJ Strata never actually said that. I lied. What he actually said is funnier. See if you can find it.
Christoph on August 4, 2007 at 8:17 PM
Ah, darn, posted under wrong thread… sorry!
Christoph on August 4, 2007 at 8:18 PM
Did someone say Tay Zonday?
Slublog on August 4, 2007 at 8:20 PM
Oh, so can reservists speak in uniform?
Bad Candy on August 4, 2007 at 8:20 PM
Now for some actual realism to round out jihadwatcher’s outburst, the history of religion in 90-seconds in BEAUTIFUL Macromedia Flash.
Christoph on August 4, 2007 at 8:22 PM
See,this is why I could never be in the armed forces, I can’t even get the rules right on when and where you can wear your uniform.
Bad Candy on August 4, 2007 at 8:22 PM
Thanks! Did you notice that Tay had a little blood work done?
Blake on August 4, 2007 at 8:34 PM
Man or woman, I do not know, but please, never link to Tay Zonday again. I didn’t know such a creature existed until 45 seconds ago, and thank you very much, I’ve been scarred for life.
jihadwatcher on August 4, 2007 at 8:38 PM
A day without Tay is a day without sunshine. :)
Blake on August 4, 2007 at 8:40 PM
The history of religion video.
Christoph at August 4,2007 at 8:22PM.
Christoph,glad you brought that video up,i seen it a
year ago.
Point is, it proves the land of Isreal is theirs period.
The Jewish people have been attacked over and over again.
The Jewish people have been on Defence and not Offence,
only when they have been attacked.
And lastly Islam has tried twice to conquer the world.
And what people dont understand is their trying for a
third time.
canopfor on August 4, 2007 at 9:02 PM
I’m not religous, but I know that this is a christian nation and it would not have been successful otherwise. That is a fact.
tomas on August 4, 2007 at 9:23 PM
Them filming that video is their first Amendment Rights. It is definitely in the spirit of our great Founder.
Washington supported Prayer (and in effect Christianity) in the military.
Washington – The second greatest man to have ever lived.
Tim Burton on August 4, 2007 at 9:27 PM
Man or Woman….
Jihadwatcher on August 4,2007 at 8:38pm.
Try watching on U-Tube ,lightening strikes twice by
Klaus Nomi.
canopfor on August 4, 2007 at 9:34 PM
In this case, they’re making an endorsement of an organization while in uniform. They’re featured in these promotional materials because of their military status, which is bolstered by their appearance in uniform. In the Kos case, no such thing occurred.
This one is a no no. The other, not so much.
Pablo on August 4, 2007 at 9:45 PM
Someday I’ll be able to tell my grandkids that I first heard Tay Zonday waaaay back in 2008! Thanks to Blake for introing him to the conversation.
As for the flap on the uniforms-same as for the Yearly Kos: you can only wear your uniforms to public functions if you are appearing on “The Price Is Right” gameshow. As a Christian, I never wore my uniform to religious or political functions, as I knew the rules prohibit ‘using’ the uniform to make a statement.
Doug on August 4, 2007 at 10:20 PM
Something’s not right about this. I mean one/two guys, but this is a lot to not know the rules. It sounds like they thought it was sanctioned by the chaplin’s office. I mean how many interviews are done in uniform? Think of HotAir’s alone.
AP, you saw the video, were they indorsing, or being interviewed?
I mean of course they were speaking in uniform. It was in the Pentagon for crying out loud.
- The Cat
MirCat on August 4, 2007 at 11:56 PM
Theworldisnotenough: DAMN STRAIGHT ! SEMPER FI !
DoctorDentons on August 5, 2007 at 6:30 AM
I know Jack Catton and he is the absolute best America has to offer. He was in the 31st Cadet Squadron, my squadron, in the Air Force Academy. He lived down the hall from me. He was a good guy but I had no idea what religion he was in, if any, until this flap arose last year. He never mentioned it.
Jack is the son of an Air Force general who taught him everything he knew. Most of all, he taught him how to handle people. Jack was one of the most relentlessly fair people I knew. He was remarkably deft at handling people, a characteristic that has undoubtedly helped him in his rise to general officer. Everybody likes Jack. I don’t believe for a minute that anybody under his command was discriminated against for their religion. It’s just not in him.
Jack got an F-15 slot out of pilot training. They don’t hand those out in boxes of Cracker Jack. Those are the most sought after and competitive positions in the Air Force. You have to be damned good to snag one of those. Not only did Jack get an Eagle slot, he thrived in it, the most competitive environment in the Air Force tactical community.
Jack made major in ten years. Usually, it takes thirteen years for the average guy to make major, eleven years for a superior performer. That means nothing to you, but when you have been in a fighter squadron and know the kind of guys who make major below the zone you know what an impressive achievement it is. You’re competing with hyper-competitive guys who dogfight each other every day in the most powerful jets in the sky. By the time he made colonel in 18 years, another impressive achievement, he had served in every important position in the fighter world, very often with distinction. His career is a model for every Air Force cadet to emulate, a combination of technical skill, people management, and drive. He is a model officer.
Now, Jack shouldn’t have appeared in uniform in this video to proselytize for his religion, but that seems like a misdemeanor to me. It is one thing to promote your religion, as Jack did, and another to discriminate against others on religious grounds, as Mike Weinstein falsely charges.
Mike Weinstein was in my class at the Air Force Academy. His name is vaguely familiar but I don’t know him personally. His reputation in the class is bad, an obnoxious jerk. Most cadets want to be pilots. Mike became a lawyer, not a respected profession at the Academy. From what I hear, he went on to become a White House fellow, where his political bent blossomed.
Mike’s attack on Christians in the Air Force was prompted by anti-semitic slurs made against his son who was a cadet at the Air Force Academy. Now, when I was a cadet, I didn’t perceive an anti-Semitic atmosphere at the Big Blue Zoo. However, I have been a student in seven colleges and I can tell you that where ever there are undergraduates, there is offensive speech of every kind. I have no doubt that anti-semitic remarks could be made at the Academy but also have no doubt that such remarks do NOT represent a climate of anti-Semitism there.
Aggravating this situation was an overrepresentation of fundamentalist Christians among the chaplains at the Academy. Christian fundamentalists actively support the military while many Protestant demoninations are pacifist, vaguely anti-American, and reject the military. So Baptist chaplains fill up the chaplain corps while other Protestant clergy enlist in protest marches against war. Likewise, fundamentalist Christians are overrepresented in the military. Now, Baptists can become over-enthusiastic in the profession of their faith. However, most cadets don’t go to chapel and are unaffected by this. Sleep is the scarcest commodity in the cadet world. In a contest between early morning chapel and your bed, the bed wins for most cadets.
However, anecdotal incidents of bias have given Weinstein enough mud to make a mud pie and sling it at the Air Force and super-respectable guys like Jack Catton. Weinstein is one of those misanthropes you find in every organization who seeks to build himself up by tearing other people down. There is just enough truth in his slander to make it believable. What he is doing is overgeneralizing anomalous incidents to falsely argue they represent a policy of religious bias in the Air Force. It’s a crock. Give me a huge organization and I can find examples of any kind of discrimination you want me to find.
The Air Force is a relentless meritocracy that doesn’t give a damn what religion or race you are. The people who rise through its ranks are ruthlessly vetted for ability, resulting in a hyper-competent leadership. You should be thankful for a military that produces guys like Jack Catton to lead it. That’s the reason why the US Air Force is the best in the world. Reasonable people should reject the slander which seeks to cripple or destroy that leadership for base motives. You don’t want a military where opportunistic political attacks determine its leadership.
Tantor on August 5, 2007 at 1:47 PM
Oh, they knew…there was no mistakes involved here. They just thought they’d get a nod/wink ‘pass’ on it because they were in the correct ‘club.’
And Tantor…way to pimp your classmate.
James on August 5, 2007 at 3:59 PM
James,
We’re not talking about an ordinary guy. An extraordinary guy like Jack Catton deserves extraordinary support, especially from the primitive mud-slingers who know nothing higher than their hog wallow.
I note that you do not dispute anything I said nor make any rebuttal of substance.
Tantor on August 5, 2007 at 4:06 PM
Correct, I didn’t dispute anything you said. The point was not about Catton…it was about your classmate Weinstein.
Did some stress or strain erase the lessons you learned back when your chin was racked in?
James on August 5, 2007 at 5:08 PM
James,
It’s interesting to note that you don’t address the main issue that these generals are not discriminating against anybody in their command, but rather wallow in low taunting. The way you make your case demonstrates its lack of merit. There is no substance to this accusation. Professing your religion in uniform is too thin a charge to do damage to these officers, so Weinstein wants to exaggerate and distort it into something sinister. And you apparently support it.
Tantor on August 5, 2007 at 7:55 PM
What these officers did crosses no hard line. It hovers in a gray zone at best. They recommended and praised a group for the good things it does. They did not “strongly suggest” that subordinates follow their example, or apply any of the other forms of political pressure that would rightly lead to charges of abuse of authority. While I was on active duty, every superior, peer, and subordinate knew I was a Bible-thumper, but they also knew that I never applied pressure to anybody about it.
I don’t believe that any of the folks in that video would have attained their status in the Pentagon without knowing where the social boundaries are.
Freelancer on August 6, 2007 at 2:30 AM
Tantor, as a fellow grad I’m going to do you the favor you seem unwilling to do for your classmate…I’m going to stop publicly criticizing you. It does the institution no good.
Convince yourself, if you must, that I didn’t have anything substantial to say simply because I’m actively trying to NOT argue about the subject. You can even call it a ‘win’ if you want, but nobody wins when we trash other grads in a forum such as this one.
James on August 6, 2007 at 8:27 AM
James,
A dick is a dick even if he graduated from the US Air Force Academy. I’m sure you know some from your class. I’m calling it like I see it and have little patience with appeals to forgo criticism for class loyalty. Such blind loyalty corrupts institutions.
Had Catholic priests turned in the first pedophile priest instead of clamming up out of blind loyalty to the priesthood, they wouldn’t have pressed on into a scandal involving dozens of pedophile priests. Likewise, the Pat Tillman scandal happenned because people put loyalty to the Army before honesty.
If you want to take a position against trashing Zoo grads, then you should be against Weinstein’s baseless slander. What it comes down to for me is that Jack Catton is getting a raw deal he doesn’t deserve.
Tantor on August 6, 2007 at 2:38 PM
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