Sanchez: Army concludes Beauchamp investigation Updates

posted at 10:37 am on August 3, 2007 by Bryan

Matt Sanchez reports from FOB Falcon that the Army wrapped up its investigation into Scott Thomas Beauchamp’s Baghdad Diarist claims late Wednesday. Head over to Matt’s blog to see the results for yourself. Matt has done great work on this, in fact doing the on-the-ground reporting that TNR never did either before or after publishing Beauchamp’s work.

TNR’s credibility is effectively destroyed.

Update: I agree with Bob’s Kid, it’s a shame that TNR has wrecked its credibility over this. But it has. I’ve emailed FOB Falcon’s PAO about Sanchez’s post, just in case they have anything additional to say. For now, here’s a report sent to WS’s Michael Goldfarb from Camp Buehring, where TNR has attempted to re-locate the melted woman story. It’s not definitive, but it’s persuasive.

I have been at Camp Buehring for 9 months, and it is the only “staging” and training area for troops going north. I would like to think I am well-tuned to the activity here on camp, but I would be deluding myself if I said I knew everything going on here at Buehring. If Scott Beauchamp came through Kuwait, he came through Buehring, period. If he saw a burned woman here, then I would like to know where she is, because I haven’t seen her in the whole 9 months. That’s not to say she doesn’t exist – she could – but I haven’t seen her, at least not here. Maybe she was visiting from another camp. The chances of him getting off Buehring to go to another camp are very slim, just because of the OPSEC measures and restrictions on travel. Again, not to say it is impossible, just very unlikely. Wish I had better information to give, but that’s pretty much it.

I have the emailer’s name and email address, which I’m keeping off the site at his request. Suffice it to say that he’s legit.

Confederate Yankee has done follow-up with public affairs in Kuwait, and learned the following from Maj Renee Russo (yes, that’s her real name):

Mr. Owens,

We have received other media queries on the alleged incident, but have`not been able to find anyone to back it up. There is not a police`report or complaint filed on this incident during that timeframe. Right now it is considered to be a Urban Legend or Myth.

I am still researching the incident and will have to get back with you later with any new developments.

Maj Russo assisted Michelle and I during our trip through Kuwait to Iraq earlier this year, so we know her personally. Most if not all reporters or bloggers who have embedded with US units in Iraq know Maj Russo.

Update (AP): Incidentally, the left’s attempts to discredit Sanchez’s reporting on this story by mentioning his past in porn have already started at HuffPo and elsewhere. Usually when they want to float a sex smear, they do it in the guise of alleging hypocrisy; in the same way that lawyers try to get hearsay evidence admitted by offering it (ostensibly) for another purpose, the hypocrisy dodge is the left’s way of calling someone a pervert while pretending to follow the progressive principle of not judging anyone on his sexuality. Except … they’re not alleging hypocrisy here, are they? They’re suggesting quite plainly that Sanchez can’t be trusted because he used to be a porn star — and a gay porn star at that, which, you’ll notice, they’re very careful to emphasize when writing about this.

Maybe they think the right hasn’t heard about him yet and will dismiss his reporting once we find out he’s one of Them? Unlikely, if so. Or maybe they’re just using this to demonstrate their special brand of progressive nuance when it comes to gay issues? Here’s my question to them: given how deeply and fragrantly they love the troops, as they never fail to remind us, does Sanchez’s status as a Marine reserve do anything to rehabilitate the credibility he allegedly lost when he did porn? Makes it sort of a mixed bag at least, right?

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TNR had credibility!?

corona on August 3, 2007 at 10:41 AM

TNR had credibility!?

corona on August 3, 2007 at 10:41 AM

That’s what I was wondering.

DakRoland on August 3, 2007 at 10:43 AM

Interesting that TNR’s report came out yesterday – claiming everything was true and good. And now today we get word from the military that it was all false. I agree, TNR’s credibility is toast.

nailinmyeye on August 3, 2007 at 10:44 AM

TNR’s credibility is effectively destroyed.

And that’s too bad. We need publications on both sides of issues so those of us who try to maintain a balanced view of things can get, well…a balanced view.

Even at that, however, I confess I am chortling with glee in a deep dark part of my soul.

Bob's Kid on August 3, 2007 at 10:46 AM

And that’s too bad. We need publications on both sides of issues so those of us who try to maintain a balanced view of things can get, well…a balanced view.

Then someone needs to tell the Liberal media to stop “Ratherizing” the news. Just report the truth and stop making things up.

Fake but Accurate does not work

William Amos on August 3, 2007 at 10:48 AM

Ace just put this up too. TNR has some serious ‘splainin to do. I like how they threw out their confirmation quick before the Army could put out theirs (which Ace pointed out). I’m sure the fact that Sanchez is the one that confirmed it will get a million lefty apologists going b-b-b-but ghey pr0n!!!1!11eleventy!1

Bad Candy on August 3, 2007 at 10:49 AM

Then someone needs to tell the Liberal media to stop “Ratherizing” the news. Just report the truth and stop making things up.

Fake but Accurate does not work

No lie, and that’s why I am chortling with glee. Eventually folks will get the message that THIS IS NOT OKAY.

I hope, anyway.

Bob's Kid on August 3, 2007 at 10:56 AM

Wait a second – I have no doubt that Sanchez is right, and I don’t need the Army or Hot Air to tell me that TNR’s credibility is shot, but I’d like a bit more than a sentence fragment. Which allegations were investigated? What was the nature of the supposed proof? Will the Army be releasing the details? Will STB’s comrades be allowed to speak on the record?

CK MacLeod on August 3, 2007 at 10:58 AM

The progressive Spin Machine, especially at TNR, is about to go into overdrive.

Spinning, spinning, spinning…………………

cheers

eon

eon on August 3, 2007 at 10:59 AM

The comments over at TNR are all “way to go”, “thanks for telling the truth”, “when will the right wing blogosphere apologize to you?” It’s insane…they accept more lies to refute the earlier lies. Are liberals really mentally retarded, or is this the end result of years of training children that “there is no objective truth”?

JustTruth101 on August 3, 2007 at 11:00 AM

Hmmm… isn’t TNR on vacation this week???

I question the timing…

Romeo13 on August 3, 2007 at 11:00 AM

Can we question their patriotism now?

/obligatory

unamused on August 3, 2007 at 11:03 AM

CK MacLeod,

Which allegations were investigated? What was the nature of the supposed proof? Will the Army be releasing the details? Will STB’s comrades be allowed to speak on the record?

I’d like to see a bit more meat on this bone too, especially the answers to your last two questions.

Pablo on August 3, 2007 at 11:03 AM

Well I look for TNR to do the next step. It will say that it trusted beauchamp and throw him under the bus.

Well you put your faith in a moron yes but it was your own ethical lapses that allowed this story to get published.

Dont expect to throw some minor staffer out of a job. Its not their fault that you printed lies.

William Amos on August 3, 2007 at 11:06 AM

Former gay porn star Matt Sanchez is exactly the guy we need to determine people’s credibility. Take that, TNR, the star of “Touched by an Anal” says you have no credibility!

The Kenosha Kid on August 3, 2007 at 11:15 AM

CK MacLeod up there is right – that refutation needs much more specificity and context, though this does set up a conflict with TNR’s recent statement.

BillINDC on August 3, 2007 at 11:16 AM

Bad Candy on August 3, 2007 at 10:49 AM

And…

The Kenosha Kid on August 3, 2007 at 11:15 AM

Told ya!

Bad Candy on August 3, 2007 at 11:21 AM

I guess Kenosha missed it was the Army that ruled Beauchamp lied and all Sanchez did was report it.

But truth never stops liberals from lying

William Amos on August 3, 2007 at 11:22 AM

I’ll say that MacLeod and BillINDC are right, we need a more formal statement from the Army, which I’m sure we’ll get soon enough.

Bad Candy on August 3, 2007 at 11:23 AM

I don’t mean to be obvious, but if the Army issued a report on this investigation, where’s the report/press release? Why are we relying on the word of Matt Sanchez? Why is he more trustworthy than Scott Thomas? I’m not buying it until I see an actual report issued by the DoD or MNF or someone official.

Enrique on August 3, 2007 at 11:23 AM

Romeo13 on August 3, 2007 at 11:00 AM

I’m timing the questioning…

doriangrey on August 3, 2007 at 11:24 AM

I agree with Bob’s Kid, it’s a shame that TNR has wrecked its credibility over this

Yes, is a shame they chose to not do their jobs once again. It’s a shame they allowed their bias to cloud their judgment again. It’s a shame we know for certain there were dozens of fictional stories published in TNR over the years. I’m all broken up about it.

TheBigOldDog on August 3, 2007 at 11:25 AM

Yeah, Enrique! I want Monday Night Football to give me Thomas’s stats, stat!

;-)

Tennman on August 3, 2007 at 11:25 AM

Told ya!

Bad Candy on August 3, 2007 at 11:21 AM

Okay, okay, you nailed. it.

Here’s your cookie.

:P

Bob's Kid on August 3, 2007 at 11:29 AM

Can someone remind me about Matt Sanchez? I remember he was at that conference with Michelle and the left almost fell over themselves because he had been in a porn movie? Is that right? So what is the deal with him? Does he say that was then and he has changed or what?

Rightwingsparkle on August 3, 2007 at 11:33 AM

He first got on the news when he was involved with some hostile anti-military types at I think Colombia, RWS. You can fill in the rest.

Bad Candy on August 3, 2007 at 11:37 AM

Enrique,

Why are we relying on the word of Matt Sanchez? Why is he more trustworthy than Scott Thomas?

Because he’s an identifiable person who is on FOB Falcon and who is directly quoting another identifiable person speaking in an official capacity.

Now, why shouldn’t we believe him? Why isn’t he more trustworthy than Beauchamp, who wrote things that weren’t true anonymously?

Pablo on August 3, 2007 at 11:42 AM

From Salon.com:

Some of the sites were comparing me to Rich Merritt, a Marine Corps captain who appeared in gay films. Others were comparing me to Jeff Gannon and claiming that I too had advertised my services as a male escort. I won’t deny it, or that I acted in several adult movies 15 years ago under names like Pierre LaBranche and Rod Majors.

From the Marine Corps Times:

Jones wrote that Sanchez’s participation in porn films was part of the investigation, but that two of the three allegations against him involved lying “to various people, including but not limited to, representatives of the New York City United War Veterans Council and U-Haul Corporation” about deploying to Iraq at the commandant’s request.

“Specifically, you wrongfully solicited funds to support your purported deployment to Iraq” by coordinating a $300 payment from the UWVC and $12,000 from U-Haul, Jones wrote.

The Kenosha Kid on August 3, 2007 at 11:48 AM

Matt Sanchez reports from FOB Falcon that the Army wrapped up its investigation into Scott Thomas Beauchamp’s Baghdad Diarist claims late Wednesday. Head over to Matt’s blog to see the results for yourself. Matt has done great work on this, in fact doing the on-the-ground reporting that TNR never did either before or after publishing Beauchamp’s work.

TNR’s credibility is effectively destroyed.

I am so sick of TNR’s spin on this. Beauchamp made up the story before he was even in theater. Look at his damn blog (ghosts on film). Even if there was such a woman at Camp Buehring, Beauchamp had not yet experienced any combat that would have made him so callous as he claims. TNR has confirmed nothing. They’ve spun and spun and spun and I’m sick of it. The other guys at the camp need to institute some “deckplate justice” as we called it in the Navy.

PRCalDude on August 3, 2007 at 11:53 AM

TNRs credibility is not destroyed unless the entire country knows about this, they admit their culpability in this fraud and the editor is fired. If we just drop it now they will go along their merry way to do damage another day. This country is in an ideological and cultural war and this battle is not even close to over. All the middle of the roaders who don’t pay attention to politics until a couple of weeks before the presidential election need to know what one of the propaganda outlets for the democrat party and leftists are all about. If conservatives are forced to play the leftist rules and game (as in going to left debate/shows) then we have to play by all their rules and as ruthlessly as they do. No prisoners.

peacenprosperity on August 3, 2007 at 11:53 AM

It never fails. One’s past always ALWAYS comes back and bites them in the butt.

Rightwingsparkle on August 3, 2007 at 11:54 AM

Reading the comments here and at Ace’s I am convinced that this “melted woman” was an urban legend and the Beauchamp used it to write an interesting story.

The only problem was he was claiming it to be a personal true story.

Rightwingsparkle on August 3, 2007 at 11:57 AM

It never fails. One’s past always ALWAYS comes back and bites them in the butt.

Rightwingsparkle on August 3, 2007 at 11:54 AM
bitesrails

PRCalDude on August 3, 2007 at 11:57 AM

Are liberals really mentally retarded, or is this the end result of years of training children that “there is no objective truth”?

JustTruth101 on August 3, 2007 at 11:00 AM

It comes from all that CO2 rebreathing they did when made to stand in the corner as kids. Caused brain damage. If their parents had been equipped with spines and whipped their asses when they needed it, they’d be a lot smarter now.

Kowboy on August 3, 2007 at 11:58 AM

Reading the comments here and at Ace’s I am convinced that this “melted woman” was an urban legend and the Beauchamp used it to write an interesting story.

The only problem was he was claiming it to be a personal true story.

Rightwingsparkle on August 3, 2007 at 11:57 AM

He had a similar story on his stupid blog before he even got to Iraq. It’s completely made up.

PRCalDude on August 3, 2007 at 11:58 AM

They’re suggesting quite plainly that Sanchez can’t be trusted because he used to be a porn star — and a gay porn star at that, which, you’ll notice, they’re very careful to emphasize when writing about this.

Maybe if he also had cheated on his wife he’d be a trustworthy progressive again.

Niko on August 3, 2007 at 11:59 AM

Or maybe they’re just using this to demonstrate their special brand of progressive nuance when it comes to gay issues?

Seriously. You’d think they’d love him because he’s a gay minority Marine. Nope. He’s a conservative. Insert whatever homophobic slur you want then.

PRCalDude on August 3, 2007 at 12:00 PM

So Scott T.B. thought that his laughing at a disfigured woman would gain him credibility with the TNR readers?

Interesting…

A low-life scumbag?

Or a lying scumbag?

Can I get a both of the above?

profitsbeard on August 3, 2007 at 12:01 PM

Here’s my question to them: given how deeply and fragrantly they love the troops, as they never fail to remind us, does Sanchez’s status as a Marine reserve do anything to rehabilitate the credibility he allegedly lost when he did porn?

And given how deeply they love and respect Teh Ghey and alternative lifestyles, how does having done porn cost him any credibility? He didn’t LIE, after all.

Pablo on August 3, 2007 at 12:04 PM

Jones wrote that Sanchez’s participation in porn films was part of the investigation…..

The Kenosha Kid on August 3, 2007 at 11:48 AM

An investigation which was closed on April 1st.

Funny how you left that part out.

Pablo on August 3, 2007 at 12:08 PM

Does he say that was then and he has changed or what?

Rightwingsparkle on August 3, 2007 at 11:33 AM

Yes. I wrote about it when the news broke. The left will never let Matt get beyond his past and throw it in his and our faces whenever he says or does anything, but conservatives have so far proven ourselves to be more enlightened. As usual.

Bryan on August 3, 2007 at 12:13 PM

Ace throws the ridiculous gay baiting back in the tolerant lefts face

Beaucamp has some man love issues himself.

Topsecretk9 on August 3, 2007 at 12:18 PM

Bryan on August 3, 2007 at 12:13 PM

Remember Bryan, according to the left, we’re the ones who are supposed to be intolerant, racist, homophobic, etc. So in order for us to accept what he says, there has to something horribly wrong with him in their eyes. He can’t be one of “their” gays.

Kowboy on August 3, 2007 at 12:24 PM

Enrique on August 3, 2007 at 11:23 AM

Military reports take some time before they’re cleared for public release. It’s just the nature of the beast.

James on August 3, 2007 at 12:30 PM

Regardless of whether or not this Sanchez fellow was in pr0n at one point in his life – What evidence is there supporting his claim that an Army investigation refuted Beauchamp’s stories?

Bryan, did you jump the gun on this post? :)

Enrique on August 3, 2007 at 12:34 PM

Let me go on record as another conservative lady who thinks Matt Sanchez is way hot.

KelliD on August 3, 2007 at 12:35 PM

James on August 3, 2007 at 12:30 PM

Point taken, but why is this a HA top story based only on Sanchez’s say-so?

Enrique on August 3, 2007 at 12:36 PM

What evidence is there supporting his claim that an Army investigation refuted Beauchamp’s stories?

Enrique, what part of this are you having a problem understanding?

The official investigation the 4th IBCT Public Affairs Office qualified as “thorough and professional” concluded late August 1st.

Unless you’re suggesting that Sanchez just made up that the investigation has concluded and the PAO has confirmed it. Is that what you’re trying to say?

Pablo on August 3, 2007 at 12:41 PM

Point taken, but why is this a HA top story based only on Sanchez’s say-so?

Enrique on August 3, 2007 at 12:36 PM

Come on, man. The PAO at FOB Falcon refuted the stories. Confederate Yankee emailed him also. Why don’t you email the PAO yourself and ask?

PRCalDude on August 3, 2007 at 12:42 PM

In re the reactionary left’s spin:

“The reason any conservative’s failing is always major news is that it allows liberals to engage in their very favorite taunt: Hypocrisy! Hypocrisy is the only sin that really inflames them. Inasmuch as liberals have no morals, they can sit back and criticize other people for failing to meet the standards that liberals simply renounce. It’s an intriguing strategy. By openly admitting to being philanderers, draft dodgers, liars, weasels and cowards, liberals avoid ever being hypocrites.”

-Ann Coulter

N. O'Brain on August 3, 2007 at 12:48 PM

“Hypocrisy!”, they explained.

PRCalDude on August 3, 2007 at 1:01 PM

My Guess:

TNR is in shock that this story hasn’t gone away in the doldrums of August. They are still playing the game that all will be forgotten if they just ignore the “Jesus freaks” long enough. Throwing out non-sequitors like the past of the bloggers who have reported what the US Army has determined is merely chumming the waters in the hopes that the “Jesus freaks” will be distracted. No cigar.

highhopes on August 3, 2007 at 1:31 PM

The most sobering aspect of this whole mess–and others like it–is the question of how often this sort of scam has been successful in steering public opinion because the means were not at our disposal to find out the truth.

It’s frightening, actually.

Bob's Kid on August 3, 2007 at 1:32 PM

For now, here’s a report sent to WS’s Michael Goldfarb from Camp Buehring, where TNR has attempted to re-locate the melted woman story.

Sorry, what’s WS in this context?

aengus on August 3, 2007 at 1:35 PM

Well this weekend the Dems are with the Kos Kids and they are scheduled for the HRC sponsored debate down the road.

Wonder if the gay debate will ask about the left bashing an gay porn participant?

CommentGuy on August 3, 2007 at 1:35 PM

The most sobering aspect of this whole mess–and others like it–is the question of how often this sort of scam has been successful in steering public opinion because the means were not at our disposal to find out the truth.

It’s frightening, actually.

The famous quote from Vietnam “We had to destroy the village to save it” has never been attributed to anyone. It is quite possibly fabricated, unsourced at the very least.

aengus on August 3, 2007 at 1:37 PM

The left loves the “hypocrisy” charge, because they feel they’re immune – after all, how can someone without principles be a hypocrite?

It’s also quite hilarious how their first thought when someone opposes them is to grab a shovel and dig for dirt – and when they find something they would normally excuse in an ally, they go after it with rabid intensity.

If it wasn’t for MSM complicity, the left wing would have destroyed itself decades ago.

Merovign on August 3, 2007 at 1:45 PM

I dont get it (as apparently the left doesnt) about Matt’s past has any relevance in this story.

That doesnt make what Beauchamp did correct. It doesnt make TNR’s story any more true.

The left wants to shoot the messenger to hide the message. We just need to keep focusing on the message and ignore their strategy.

William Amos on August 3, 2007 at 1:49 PM

aengus:

Re: that quote. It was Peter Arnett, the journalist, who said that about Ban Tre.

Ban Tre was destroyed by the Viet Cong, not the US.

The soldier Arnett quoted was asked later if he’d said that, he replied he’d said “it was a shame that village was destroyed.”

A lot of research has been done on that quote, you can search for it (the story tends to come out in pieces). Obviously Arnett hasn’t admitted the screw-up.

On the other hand, do you think the left actually cares if what it says is true? Come on, it’s all about ends, to hell with means!

Merovign on August 3, 2007 at 1:50 PM

The comments over at TNR are all “way to go”, “thanks for telling the truth”, “when will the right wing blogosphere apologize to you?” It’s insane…they accept more lies to refute the earlier lies. Are liberals really mentally retarded, or is this the end result of years of training children that “there is no objective truth”?

JustTruth101 on August 3, 2007 at 11:00 AM

Liberalism isn’t a form of mental retardation, but it is a mental disorder. Any underlying mental state that requires its victims to avoid reality with such fanaticism can’t be healthy.

When you were a kid, did you ever let something go undone for so long – cleaning your room, or emptying the cats’ litterbox, for example – that after a while, when confronted with the prospect of having to get it done, the task now seemed so monstrous that you didn’t even know where to begin? So you just kept on avoiding it?

That’s where liberal are at when it comes to honestly answering why it is that they always seem to feel so angry, hateful, bitter, afraid, jealous, superstitious and vengeful. To undertake such a self-inventory, they’d finally have to take responsibility for how they feel, and how they got to feeling that way. And they’ve left that task moldering in their mental closet for so long that they don’t dare open the door anymore.

Watching TNR and its apologists shaking their fists in defiance as the “SS Beauchamp” founders beneath them is reminiscent of a Bill Cosby routine from the early 1960s, in which Cosby and his brother have just broken the bed they shared by jumping on it. Their father comes in to investigate, and Cosby insists that “A man came in the window, jumped on and broke the bed, and ran out again.”

Cosby’s father tries the “Fear of God” approach:

“Do you know what happens to little boys who lie? They go straight down, and they burn! You eyes are burning, your hair is burning, your teeth are burning –”

“Stop it dad!”

“Do you want to burn?!?”

“No, dad!”

“Then tell the truth!”

The man came in here, dad!!

This is what it’s like, and will always be like, to confront child-like TNR True Believers about this “story.” They’ll never give it up, no matter how ridiculous their avoidance mechanisms become, because they’re convinced they’ll be even worse off if they admit the truth.

Spurius Ligustinus on August 3, 2007 at 1:51 PM

Sorry, what’s WS in this context?

Weekly Standard.

Pablo on August 3, 2007 at 1:53 PM

TNR is behaving true-to-form. They did the same thing during Vietnam when they tried to cover up Pol Pot’s genocide.

They need a lesson.

Franklin Foer’s career needs to be destroyed. He, Beauchamp, and Beauchamp’s wife (TNR’s version of Valerie Plame) need to be unemployed (and unemployable), the way Steve Glass is. None of these 3 should every be allowed to work for a newspaper or magazine again. Justice demands it.

TNR, because of a repeating pattern of lie telling, needs to be put out of business.

From lying about Pol Pot, to the Steve Glass episode, and now to slandering the US Army, TNR proves the truth of what Ann Coulter wrote about in Slander: Liberal Lies About the American Right. She wrote that hat liberals are “savagely cruel bigots who hate ordinary Americans and lie for sport.”

TNR should be required to place a warning on their cover and at their website that reads: “The New Republic is a proven liar.” And then they should put a padlock on the office throw away the key.

georgej on August 3, 2007 at 2:11 PM

The PAO at FOB Falcon refuted the stories.

The PAO said they couldn’t find anyone to back Beauchamp up. That’s not the same as a refutation.

I just don’t want us to have egg on our face if it turns out Sanchez doesn’t have his shit together.

Enrique on August 3, 2007 at 2:15 PM

At least with his background, Sanchez knows when he is getting f***d.

The left always thinks us conservatives want to destroy everyone with a “past”. Nothing could be further from the truth. We all have a past, and we all are better for it. It is not a shame, but a path.

The truth is the truth, and if Huffpo and the rest of the idiots can state where he (Sanchez) lied, or where Beauchamp was correct, then I will listen.

Meanwhile, they can continue their message of destruction, but no instruction.

(I refuse to give permission for Jessie Jackson to use that last quote)

right2bright on August 3, 2007 at 2:23 PM

Thanks Bryan,

I figured as much. Btw, I am stealing this line from you:

the left loves the sin but hates the sinner (if the sinner is a Republican).

It is simply too perfect. I will use it often.

Rightwingsparkle on August 3, 2007 at 2:31 PM

The PAO said they couldn’t find anyone to back Beauchamp up. That’s not the same as a refutation.

I just don’t want us to have egg on our face if it turns out Sanchez doesn’t have his shit together.

Enrique on August 3, 2007 at 2:15 PM

Beauchamp has the burden of proof, not the PAO. Beauchamp brought the indictment in his Diary. Therefore, he has to provide the evidence, as does TNR. It used to be that you’re innocent until proven guilty. It would be absurd not to give the military the same benefit of the doubt.

PRCalDude on August 3, 2007 at 2:31 PM

Incidentally, the left’s attempts to discredit Sanchez’s reporting on this story by mentioning his past in porn have already started at HuffPo and elsewhere.

I personally think it’s penis envy, even on arianna’s part. ESPECIALLY on arianna’s part.

TheEJS on August 3, 2007 at 3:07 PM

After a thorough investigation that lasted nearly a week the 4th Infantry Brigade Combat Team, 1st Infantry Division has concluded that the allegations made by Private Thomas Scott Beauchamp, the “Baghdad Diarist”, have been

“refuted by members of his platoon and proven to be false”

I’d be really interested to know how they “proved” Beauchamp’s story to be false. It reads likes the investigators didn’t go any further than asking Beauchamp’s platoon member’s if they ran over dogs, desecrated children’s remains, and mocked a disfigured woman. It’s sort of like getting murder charges dismissed for telling the police you didn’t do it.

Hopefully there’s some “smoking gun” detail in the investigation that will come out in a published report by the military. For that matter, hopefully TNR shares what it is that makes them so confident Beauchamp’s story is true. Beauchamp is out already, it’s not like they have to protect his anonymity.

In any case, it’s a bit early to say TNR’s credibility has been destroyed. Their credibility is seriously in question, I’d say. It’ll be interesting to see how they respond to the military report after it’s been published in its entirety.

RightOFLeft on August 3, 2007 at 4:11 PM

eh… I don’t think I gave TNR enough credit in my post. Per TNR’s statement on Beauchamp-

Most important, we spoke with five other members of Beauchamp’s company, and all corroborated Beauchamp’s anecdotes, which they witnessed or, in the case of one solider, heard about contemporaneously.

Three soldiers with whom TNR has spoken have said they repeatedly saw the same facially disfigured woman. One was the soldier specifically mentioned in the Diarist. He told us: “We were really poking fun at her; it was just me and Scott, the day that I made that comment. We were pretty loud. She was sitting at the table behind me. We were at the end of the table. I believe that there were a few people a few feet to the right.”

More important, two witnesses have corroborated Beauchamp’s account. One wrote in an e-mail: “I can wholeheartedly verify the finding of the bones; U.S. troops (in my unit) discovered human remains in the manner described in ‘Shock Troopers.’ [sic] … [We] did not report it; there was no need to. The bodies weren’t freshly killed and thus the crime hadn’t been committed while we were in control of the sector of operations.” On the phone, this soldier later told us that he had witnessed another soldier wearing the skull fragment just as Beauchamp recounted: “It fit like a yarmulke,” he said. A forensic anthropologist confirmed to us that it is possible for tufts of hair to be attached to a long-buried fragment of a human skull, as described in the piece.

The last section of the Diarist described soldiers using Bradley Fighting Vehicles to kill dogs. On this topic, one soldier who witnessed the incident described by Beauchamp, wrote in an e-mail: “How you do this (I’ve seen it done more than once) is, when you approach the dog in question, suddenly lurch the Bradley on the opposite side of the road the dog is on. The rear-end of the vehicle will then swing TOWARD the animal, scaring it into running out into the road. If it works, the dog is running into the center of the road as the driver swings his yoke back around the other way, and the dog becomes a chalk outline.” TNR contacted the manufacturer of the Bradley Fighting Vehicle System, where a spokesman confirmed that the vehicle is as maneuverable as Beauchamp described. Instructors who train soldiers to drive Bradleys told us the same thing.

Is Hotair publicly accusing TNR of fabricating quotes from from military personnel who served with Beauchamp?

RightOFLeft on August 3, 2007 at 5:01 PM

I’m glad that SOMEBODY is finally investigating the Scott Beauchamp story. But you couldn’t find anybody other than a former gay porn star to lead the investigation? Come on. You should have known that liberals would have a field day with that.

SoulGlo on August 3, 2007 at 5:10 PM

So what does Mr. TNR Marty Peretz have to say about all this? Nothing in his blog “The Spine” about it at all. On one hand he hasn’t leaped up to defend Foer, but on the other the silence on this latest Stephen Glass episode is noticeable. I would expect him to take a strong stand on this either way. Seems like a good time to show some “Spine.” Interesting that the “Contact the Spine” email address is worthless.

MikeHu on August 3, 2007 at 5:14 PM

Is Hotair publicly accusing TNR of fabricating quotes from from military personnel who served with Beauchamp?

TNR never said how the confirmations took place. For all we know, TNR could be getting emails from Beauchamp saying, “Here’s what my buddies say,” followed by messages that may or may not be written by Beauchamp himself. Slapdash, for sure, but then again, so was the initial fact-checking. As Hanlon’s razor states, “Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.” Or laziness.

By the way, AP, if you think things are bad on the left-wing sites, they’re just as bad in Wikipedia, where the Beauchamp article had accusations of illegal activity against Sanchez but no mention of his role in the Beauchamp scandal, other than to say he was a “primary source.” Ironically, this was because someone “removed reference to gay porn actor Matt Sanchez, whose veracity about several matters is in dispute.” Why mention homosexuality if that’s not a slur against him? Bigots.

calbear on August 3, 2007 at 5:15 PM

TNR never said how the confirmations took place

In case it wasn’t clear what I meant, I meant that it was unclear how TNR was confirming the identities of the witnesses. I wasn’t suggesting that TNR didn’t say that it was emailed, phoned, etc.

calbear on August 3, 2007 at 5:26 PM

Matt Sanchez has a past he isn’t proud of and oh yes he’s GAY. Gay gay gay gay gay gay GAAAAY. Yes we get it. he also turned his life around and served his country with distinction. For that I give him my thanks and I honor his service.

And what does this have to do with the Beauchamp story? NOTHING which is why its all the left wants to talk about. They know they have been caught red handed making up the news as usual.

Etain P on August 3, 2007 at 5:39 PM

SoulGlo on August 3, 2007 at 5:10 PM

And why didn’t you…huh?…just asking. What is in your past.

right2bright on August 3, 2007 at 7:31 PM

Let me go on record as another conservative lady who thinks Matt Sanchez is way hot.

KelliD on August 3, 2007 at 12:35 PM

Co-sign

baldilocks on August 3, 2007 at 8:06 PM

…which is one of the reasons that the homosexuals on the Left are PO’d at him.

baldilocks on August 3, 2007 at 8:09 PM

re: Sanchez

He served our country as a Marine, and now he’s serving it better than most as a civilian.

When the gay porn story first broke, there was a quote from Sanchez (at mm’s I believe); something to the effect that ‘involvment in porn flattens the soul.’

That one phrase spoke volumes about someone who’s learned a hard lesson and moved on. Too bad the left (and some on the right) won’t.

Beauchamp remains a dirtbag, and his pals at TNR are no better.

cyrano on August 4, 2007 at 1:02 AM

When the gay porn story first broke, there was a quote from Sanchez (at mm’s I believe); something to the effect that ‘involvment in porn flattens the soul.’

cyrano on August 4, 2007 at 1:02 AM

See AP’s link in one of the updates.

baldilocks on August 4, 2007 at 1:31 AM

baldilocks: Thanks.

cyrano on August 4, 2007 at 10:23 AM

Confederate Yankee has more – turn out the lights, the party’s
over:

corona on August 4, 2007 at 1:58 PM

trying link again

corona on August 4, 2007 at 1:58 PM

aargh!

http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/235889.php

corona on August 4, 2007 at 1:59 PM