Our crap politics: GOP says it won House vote, Dems say it didn’t; Update: Cantor unloads
posted at 9:31 am on August 3, 2007 by Allahpundit
I’m lifting the video from K-Lo so I’ll send you over there to find out what happened. Outrageously outrageous! — I think. There seems to be no proof of what the tally actually was when the gavel came down.
You’ll find the three votes at the top of the page here. 814 is the disputed one; 815 and 816, which took place after the Republican walkout, each passed with enough Democrats to win a majority. So assuming the GOP is right in calling shenanigans, wouldn’t they have lost anyway on a motion to reconsider or a vote to repeal or whatever the procedure is for undoing amendments when you know you have enough votes to undo them?
In that case, though, why didn’t Hoyer go that route? Why the tomfoolery with the procedure on 814? 814 was a measure to send the bill back to committee, where the GOP planned to add language denying agricultural benefits to illegal immigrants. Presumably Hoyer didn’t want that to come to the floor where he’d have to try to defeat it, so he was trying here to stop the bill from going back to committee in the first place. Which brings us back to square one: Why didn’t he just offer a motion to reconsider and stop it that way?
There’s some procedural nuance I’m missing here, obviously, but we all just want to watch the video so let’s watch it.
Update: Another lift from K-Lo. Surrrrre would be nice if Eric Cantor added us to his e-mailing list.
Here he is this morning going off on the Democrats. He mentions an apology from the congressman from New York, i.e., Mike McNulty, who held the gavel last night during the contentious vote, but I can’t find anything about it on the wires.
Update: Here’s the whole sordid story from David Freddoso. I’m guessing that there’s some rule that prevents a motion to reconsider after a vote like this one. Otherwise I still don’t understand why Hoyer didn’t simply let the vote past and then move to re-vote.
Update: A little more from the Hill about McNulty’s apology:
McNulty took to the floor Friday morning to apologize for his action.
“I want to express regret that I gaveled the vote too early,” McNulty said and apologized for his role in the confusion that rocked the House floor last night.
McNulty gaveled the motion to recommit closed at 214 to 214, when the final vote tally on the board was 213 to 215 after Florida Republican Reps. Mario Diaz Balart, Lincoln Diaz Balart and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen changed their votes from a “no” to a “yes.”
“We went to the front of the House [to change our votes],”Rep. Mario Diaz Balart said, adding that the board had changed to the count of 213 to 215 in favor of the motion to recommit, and that the gavel went down but McNulty hadn’t seen the change.
“It stayed there for several minutes …then the votes started to change again,” he said, causing the vote to flip. “That’s when there was the meltdown.”