Bold new voice emerges to lead anti-amnesty movement!
posted at 9:22 pm on August 2, 2007 by Allahpundit
You can thank Fred for this, I guess. Look: changes of heart are always welcome, but when they’re this transparently calculated to help rescue a floundering campaign they’re not going to earn you much goodwill. He was Mr. Amnesty when he was the frontrunner; now that he has to carry his own bags, he’s a conservative again. Given that track record, why would anyone install him in a position of exalted power like the presidency where he’d really be free to screw us over?
Republican presidential hopeful John McCain on Thursday backed a scaled-down proposal that imposes strict rules to end illegal immigration but doesn’t include a path to citizenship.
The move away from a comprehensive measure is an about-face for the Arizona senator, who had been a leading GOP champion of a bill that included a guest worker program and would have legalized many of the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants living in the U.S. It failed earlier this year…
Observers said McCain’s switch was political. “He recognizes his position on the issue is killing him,” said Steven Camarota, research director at the Center for Immigration Studies, which favors vigorous immigration enforcement.
Even today, the extent of McCain’s leftward shift during and after his last presidential run remains underappreciated. When he last ran for president, McCain denounced Bush’s tax cuts as unaffordable and unfairly tilted toward the rich. He described a GOP corrupted by business lobbyists and hostage to “forces of evil” like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson. After his return to Congress, he went even further, championing a patients’ bill of rights despised by the HMO industry and the Bush administration; pushing through a sweeping campaign finance reform bill that Bush signed unwillingly; enraging the NRA by pushing legislation to close the “gun show loophole”; and sounding the alarm over global warming. McCain even contemplated ditching the GOP altogether. In 2001, he discussed with Senate Democratic leaders the possibility of joining their party and mulled an independent presidential bid.
That same TNR piece mentions presciently that while McCain’s shifting right on immigration, Mitt will be shifting left on the war. Is this the first tilt in that direction? Via greenmountainpolitics1:
That’s so vague and platitudinous that it’s hard to critique, but to the extent that he’s saying with the narrator thinks he’s saying — that a good progress report from Petraeus in six weeks means it’s time to pull back — then it sounds like he’s tilting towards a “let’s declare victory and go home” retreat. Petraeus’s long-term plan involves U.S. troops providing security in Baghdad and elsewhere until next summer, in no small part because the Iraqi Army isn’t yet up to the task. Maybe that’s Mitt’s plan too, but keep an eye on him possibly trying to inch towards the exit under cover of “we’re winning!” The eventual GOP nominee is going to have to inch that way too but let him at least be honest about what he’s doing when he does.









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As politicians go, Romney is ussually pretty good at saying what he means and meaning what he says. He has totally jumped the shark on that in this clip.
As for McCain, he isn’t even in the realm of actually saying what he means.
Resolute on August 2, 2007 at 9:32 PM
Looks like we’re beating him to it, at least the “grassroots” are. “Fool me
oncetwicewhatever, shame on you …”IrishEyes on August 2, 2007 at 9:36 PM
McCain has done nothing for the border his entire career. And he won’t now. Pure lies and BS.
roninacreage on August 2, 2007 at 9:40 PM
John McCain has now become BJ Clinton. By that, I mean that he is taking positions based on which way the poll is tilting. What does he really have going for him that a Republican would want to vote for him? An R behind his name! He can’t fool me and I haven’t been fooled by Fred and I’m souring on Mitt. Rudy is good on the WOT, but he’s not an acceptable candidate to me on 2nd amendment and other socially conservative issues. I want to know more about Duncan. I’ve heard that he is both socially and fiscally conservative, but hardly anyone knows anything about him.
TruthToBeTold on August 2, 2007 at 9:41 PM
To my ear, what Mitt is saying is what’s been said for a long time. We’ll stand down when they stand up.
TheBigOldDog on August 2, 2007 at 9:42 PM
Still, I want to like McCain because he’s been so solid on the Iraq war.
Well, he get my support in his reelection bid for Senate!
frankj on August 2, 2007 at 9:48 PM
Well, from the sound of it, McCain didn’t make it all the way over on that flip-flop and landed on his head.
Kowboy on August 2, 2007 at 9:49 PM
I literally laughed out loud at this headline with that pic of McShame.
infidel4life on August 2, 2007 at 9:50 PM
John the McInsane, Him and Geraldo need to be committed to a nut house..
Legions on August 2, 2007 at 9:54 PM
I sincerely respect McCain’s past military service. I admire his courage and integrity while imprisoned in Vietnam.
I do not respect his unconstitutional bill to reward law-breakers with the gift of USA citizenship. I saw, and many others did, that bill as a direct assault on the rule of law in America.
It is too late for McCain. Actions speak louder than words. Just like
it is too late for somebody else.
I also hope voters remember that Hagel used to be a “conservative” once upon a time.
ColtsFan on August 2, 2007 at 9:54 PM
John who?
Christoph on August 2, 2007 at 9:56 PM
Silly Rabbit, don’t you know tricks are for kids?
RushBaby on August 2, 2007 at 9:58 PM
This is the first original thought I’ve heard from Romney that I like.
We shouldn’t be in Iraq forcibly mediating sectarian conflicts forever. ( Ha Ha, eventually we’ll want to redeploy our forces to Iran) The Republicans will have to begin a drawdown before the ’08 election or they’ll get swept.
I’ll hold my nose and vote for Romney if I have to. Not McCain.
jaime on August 2, 2007 at 10:00 PM
McVain
tickleddragon on August 2, 2007 at 10:08 PM
Wow, that’s weird…it erased everything I wrote, but McVain??
Let me try this again…
McVain is a gullible dumba$$ if he thinks we’re stupid enough to fall for this. ERRRRRNT!! Wrong answer. Thanks for playin’.
Romney – I’m not a bit surprised. I told y’all I don’t trust any politician drinkin the Mass. water for long periods. It’s simply teeeeeeeming with Kennediococcys or some such disease.
tickleddragon on August 2, 2007 at 10:10 PM
I thought McVain by itself was an excellent comment.
Christoph on August 2, 2007 at 10:18 PM
John McCain coming out against shamnesty is about as believable as Hugh Hefner coming out against sex or Al Gore saying that an ice age is coming.
MB4 on August 2, 2007 at 10:25 PM
The eventual GOP nominee is going to have to inch that way too but let him at least be honest about what he’s doing when he does.
Whomever the Republican nominee is, if he does not do a lot more than inch away from Iraq, he will very likely lose and we will have President/CIC HildaBeast and big Democrat majorities in 2009.
MB4 on August 2, 2007 at 10:30 PM
I too respect John McCain for his military service and his past courage. I also respect him for admitting that he made a mistake on the immigration issue no matter how political his motivations. But, it’s difficult for me to trust him now, I would always wonder what his true feelings are on the issue.
jeanie on August 2, 2007 at 10:36 PM
Jeanie, we know what his true feelings are.
“Americans wouldn’t pick lettuce for even $50/hour”
MB4 on August 2, 2007 at 10:48 PM
I would respect him more if he’d stick with his conviction, even if I disagree with it, than flip-flop for political illusion, while he and so many laughed at Kerry for same.
He’s becoming pathetic. It’s over. The one-man band continues to play, but it’s no orchestra. Time to say good-bye and retire in style. Letting go of power is really an ugly process. Remember how Bill C. couldn’t leave Wash. D.C. on the day of the innauguration? And how he wants to come back, badly?
This is really ugly and painful to observe.
Entelechy on August 2, 2007 at 10:51 PM
tickleddragon on August 2, 2007 at 10:59 PM
Well said, Entelechy.
tickleddragon on August 2, 2007 at 11:03 PM
I can say that was one of a couple GREAT things that came out of the Shamnesty debacle.
1)Got rid of McVain politically
2)Grouped together and made our voices heard in a big way – first time in anyone’s memory.
tickleddragon on August 2, 2007 at 11:05 PM
This is true.
But it is also good to see “democracy in action” when a US voter watches McCain’s poll ratings plummet down the drain all because of a dangerous bill, even though some people (Wall Street Journal, immigration lawyers, La Raza, illegal aliens, American Left,) are disappointed at McCain’s demise.
What really bothered me about the recent Sham-amnesty bill was that its chief supporters, namely, Graham-amnesty of SC, John Kyl (former conservative from AZ??), Trent Lott (former conservative from MS??), Hagel of NE, were pushing Sham-amnesty primarily because it would help McCain politically in the primary.
Remember, McCain initially believed that Sham-nesty legislation would help him in the GOP polls, not destroy him. This was a political move by McCain..
ColtsFan on August 2, 2007 at 11:06 PM
For a future Vent: I’d like to see every presidential candidate who espouses border security heading south wearing a Border Patrol T-shirt and lugging a wet concrete laden wheelbarrow.
- Build the fence;
- Enforce existing laws; or
- STFU!
BJ Phisch on August 2, 2007 at 11:11 PM
That is just wrong, McCain.
You f’ed yourself.
Now live with it.
Oh, and vote for the RINO-killa Tancredo.
Zach on August 2, 2007 at 11:36 PM
McCain (and others) must feel secure in the knowledge that they can slip amnesty past us in the AgJob bill and others like it. They can now appear tough on illegal immigration while voting for amnesty on other bills.
Buzzy on August 2, 2007 at 11:56 PM
This is now the 2nd time somebody has said this. I do not know anything about this “AgJob” bill.
Why is this not being covered by conservative bloggers?
ColtsFan on August 2, 2007 at 11:59 PM
If Lieberman ever switches to (R), McCain would switch to (D) just be “a maverick”.
SouthernGent on August 3, 2007 at 12:11 AM
If you’re against shamnesty, or even for it, this is worth your time. It escaped me during the recent fight, and was put out in 2006.
Entelechy on August 3, 2007 at 12:22 AM
If you choose to watch the video I linked to, above, please wait until the gumballs comparison. Very effective!
Entelechy on August 3, 2007 at 12:24 AM
Entelechy, I watched the video. WOW!!
Very profound!! Yes, I did stay for the “gumballs comparison.”
That video was very persuasive and powerful. I am surprised that YouTube has not banned it since it does not fit well with the American Left.
ColtsFan on August 3, 2007 at 12:37 AM
To be honest with you, my main reasons for opposing illegal immigration are centered around the inherent lawlessness (and direct assault on the rule of law) that accompanies amnesty.
But that video gave a different reason for US citizens to be gravely concerned.
And worried.
ColtsFan on August 3, 2007 at 12:40 AM
Mitts! comment just goes to show you just how far ahead of the pack he is. The purpose of the surge was to establish security so the government can get some stability. If that is working and the government is starting to make progress, it stands to reason that we will do as we promised and draw down. He didn’t say to remove all the troops….he said to replace our troops with Iraqi troops. He said the goal was to eventually get all of our troops out. All statements are true and his meaning is clearly evident when they are in context. I’m not surprised that he is attacked on this.
I get the same accusations from narrow minded people who can’t see into next week, much less next year. Such is the bane for those of us who dare to look to the future with logic and reason that is based on the facts and realistic projections.
csdeven on August 3, 2007 at 12:41 AM
When McCain drives the trucks that DEPORTS 30 million Illegal Aliens, I’ll vote for him. Hey John, you can start in Chicago by picking up Convicted Illegal Alien Felon, Elvira Arellano, and her anchor baby, Saulito. After that, stop on by in Long Beach to pick up Absconder Liliana and her brood on your way to the southern border. That’ll be a good start. Let’s see it!! Shit or get off the pot!! 30 million John! 30 million! You CAN do it! Si se puede!!
DfDeportation on August 3, 2007 at 12:43 AM
What have you really done for us lately, John?
Speakup on August 3, 2007 at 1:00 AM
just a test
fred5678 on August 3, 2007 at 1:52 AM
Keep up to date with NumbersUSA.com
fred5678 on August 3, 2007 at 1:53 AM
Wait a second …. wait juuuust a second here.
I thought we couldn’t have border enforcement without amnesty? I thought the only way we could solve the problem is with a “comprehensive” solution. I thought the only way to secure the border was to give a pathway to citizenship for 12-20 million who came here illegally. I thought the “comprehensive” bill was the best we could get. That’s what they told us … over and over and over and over.
Does this mean they were wrong?!? Were those that called us bigots/racists/hypochondriacs/restrictionists wrong about all of this? Or are their (former?) amnesty heroes McVain, Kyl, Grahamnesty, et al wrong on this one? And won’t this bill alienate Hispanics from the GOP, because lord knows, every single Hispanic in the U.S. is totally in favor of granting immediate amnesty to illegals and thinks that securing the border and controlling who enters the country is the de facto equivalent to anti-Hispanic racism.
Color me confused … how can this be?
That’s funny. That is funny!
thirteen28 on August 3, 2007 at 11:30 AM
I think McCain’s poll numbers just shot up…from an asterisk.
saved on August 3, 2007 at 12:26 PM
He’ll say anything now that he’ walking the political plank. Lots of people find “religion” right before death. He’s finding his.
madmonkphotog on August 3, 2007 at 7:27 PM