Oh my God!
Shep is reporting from the bridge collapse doing an interview with a little black girl. Here we go again with a Katrina moment.

The big question is will he blame the collapse on George Bush or global warming.

OBX Pete on August 2, 2007 at 3:11 PM

I think the racial thinking in this case was yours.

As my buddy Carlos Mencia would say “Ti tiri”. Just because you chose to be retarded doesn’t mean anyone has to respect your opinions.
Let’s see, to you some “thing” which is one fifth of the whole has the same effect on the whole as some “thing” which is one millinth of the whole. WOW. How enlightened of you.
Next, no one is talking about methane because it is an even smaller fraction of a percentage than CO2.
Well I stand corrected. Obviously, if you mistakenly drank a glass of water that was 21% Chlorine, it would have the same effect as if the water only had 1 millionth of 1% chlorine. How could I be so blind?
Last but not least, evolution and quantum physics are settled, only, to a closed mind. As the old saying goes, “the mind is like a parachute, when it’s not open it doesn’t work”. Try pulling the rip cord you “RETARD”
Pardon all the sarc everybody but I really dislike condescending scammers.

GOD BLESS AMERICA!
paratisi

It is the sun which drives the Earth’s temperature, whose fluctuations neatly correspond with historical variations in Earth’s climate. It’s no accident that Mars is experiencing a warming trend just like the Earth. Perhaps the global warming cult would like to blame hot days on Mars on mass industrialization on Earth.

The big question is will he blame the collapse on George Bush or global warming.

You know what’s going to drive me crazy? Now that the Sun is in it’s lesser-sun-spot phase, the Earth is going to start cooling (by about a degree or so, like the increase) and the same idiots and iceholes who are screaming about global warming are going to get all smugly-superior when talking about the coming ice age. And they’ll never, ever, ever admit they were wrong about global warming and will never, ever, admit that the Sun is the greatest cause of any temperature on the Earth.
It’s hubris to an extreme to declare that any climate change is caused by man even though the climate is always changing. Always.

As for Shep, I think he’s been hanging out with Geraldo too much lately. He has the same style as Geraldo.
Plus, Shep is about stupid. Every time I watch him he gets some simple fact wrong. He’s the poster boy for my phrase, “Remember, they’re not just biased, they’re lazy, stupid and ignorant.”

Well Shep, old buddy, don’t waste your time. I plead not guilty. I can’t be guilty of a crime that has never happened. I hereby charge you with being a liberal, pompous jerk who doesn’t know anything about global warming except what the likes of Al Gore has told you. I can prove that you are a liberal, pompous jerk though. All one has to do is watch your silly outbursts of rage on Fox, our favorite cable network, and the case is closed.

Does anybody know how I can contact this schmuck by e-mail so I can tell him directly? I’m sure he would chuckle about getting another nasty e-mail from a fan!!

We may be heading for the greatest environmental disaster of humankind, if this false science succeeds in instituting global climate control measures.

The scientific community, fueled by massive hysteria and the subsequent funding bonanza is already heading down this path.

At the Gas Technology Center, a cooperative research effort between the Norwegian University of Science and Technology (NTNU) and SINTEF, Scandinavia’s largest independent research organization, researchers are hard at work on solving this very problem — capturing CO2 and getting rid of it.

It’s hardly the only company cashing in.

PRCalDude on August 1, 2007 at 10:49 PM

All this and more will be revealed to you in Statistics 10001 at your local University.

starflyer on August 1, 2007 at 10:52 PM

Uh, I’m an electrical engineer. Though I’m probably not as good at it as you, I know a couple of things about statistics, because most of the field is based on statistics. So humor me.

I only have one question for the guy that swam to the north pole: WHY?

mojo on August 2, 2007 at 10:50 AM

Answer: He thought it was the best way to win the “Biggest A-hole of the Year” award. He was right!

The arguments here are obviously between believers and non-believers.
As a child I knew it was futile to challenge the belief of Baptists, same now for the Algore crowd.

Mars

Carry on….

RightWinged on August 2, 2007 at 2:28 AM

You da man, RW! I engage in these debates frequently with people and their reaction is almost identical to Starflyer’s…if you don’t believe in AGW or GW, you are wrong and no amount of evidence or discussion will change that. They have their latest marching orders and they won’t let science and facts get in the way. Submission to a set of beliefs without question is what they are after. If you do not submit, you will feel the pain.

Sound familiar?

It is settled that babies are conceived by sperm and egg.

Tell me: Am I closed minded?

starflyer on August 1, 2007 at 10:57 PM

You’re answer is a resounding and definite ‘Yes!’. Redundant as it may be.

Let’s start with a list of scientists opposing mainstream global warming propaganda:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_opposing_global_warming_consensus

Do we need to talk about the state climatologists of Oregon and Delaware who’s jobs may be in jeopardy (perhaps they’ve lost them by now) simply because they don’t agree with their governors position on the issue (yeah, scientists could lose their titles in these states because non-scientist governors, POLITICIANS, don’t like what they’re saying)
To avoid spam filters, I’ll at this time not add links, but if you’re unfamiliar I can provide them.

FACT: Greenland’s glaciers have been receding for over 100 years…. NATURALLY!

FACT: Even if “global warming” were true, Kilimanjaro’s situation would be unrelated… so people need to stop using it as evidence.

FACT: It’s been MUCH hotter in the past, and dinosaurs didn’t drive SUVs my friends.

FACT: In the 1970s, there was “global cooling” hysteria… (I can give you the headlines from the nations top publications if you need ‘em, but it will take some diggin as I used to just copy and paste from my own blog, which isn’t up at the moment). You know why back then it was “global cooling”? Because that was the peak of a few decade long COOLING PERIOD!!! Which followed a warming period. Now we’re in a warming one again!

FACT: Sometimes WARMING leads NATURAL Co2 increases. Meaning the Co2 didn’t cause the warming, it’s the other way around.

Anyway, I’m sure all the “fossil fuels” we’re burning went back in time and caused the drastic changes necessary for beginning and ending ice ages… right?

FACT: Methane, Co2′s evil sidekick (according to global warmists), though much less present in the atmosphere, is UP TO 40 TIMES MORE POTENT A “GREENHOUSE GAS”. Who is putting it out? Well, up to 30% of it comes from plants. Have a giant house Al Gore? Plant a tree and call it an offset! Oh s**t, now you can’t get away with that one either!

etc. etc. ancient arctic was a tropical paradise, etc. etc. Atlantic was a hot tub etc. etc. a group of Russian scientists think we’re on the verge of the next cooling period (which wouldn’t be surprising, since the climate is constantly changing and all we’ve had is a VERY SLIGHT increase over 100 years, which doesn’t correlate with Co2, or it wouldn’t have warmed early in the last century, cooled in the middle, and then warmed again… IT WOULD HAVE CONTINUOUSLY WARMED!!!

etc. etc. we have very limited temperature records…

Oh, and here’s the best part… you know where they get these temperature readings to create their “sophisticated” analysis? From stations set up in a manner that creates unreliable data… sitting on hot rooftops that absorb and emit heat, in parking lots where they not only have cars within feet, but again the parking lot itself taking in and slowly releasing heat…. outside of brick buildings RIGHT NEXT TO air conditioning units… not on the inside of the building where it’s cool, but on the outside where heat is emitted from powering the units.

Start here for more information on this issue:
http://surfacestations.org/

Okay, I’m bored with this again and I barely scratched the surface

Damn, could you drop a couple KOS and DU links in here?

Yeah, way to make my point that this is a political discussion, and not one based on science.

That’s not to say that quoting those sites makes you adhere to all their positions, nor that all their positions are invalid just because some of them are.

It’s just a significant data point. When someone exercises sloppy thinking in one area, they are likely to do so in others. Which is that part of the discussion you don’t want to have.

until the sun expands, burns the earth’s surface up and then collapses in on itself.

Even nuclear explosions will not kill the planet – it will continue, perhaps in a different form, probably with fewer humans and other life forms, but it will survive. the best we can do is adapt – to try to mold the earth into a hospitable terrain and strive to improve our own chances for survival. the whole psychology behind chicken-little syndrome has to be enormously intersting: self-loathing, fear of change, a bit of OCD and trying to make everything nice and tidy, trying to make sense of chaos…. But it’s late and I’m tired and rambling.

http://timlambert.org/2005/05/peiser/

http://www.inkstain.net/fleck/archives/001721.html

re: SPPI

http://scienceblogs.com/intersection/2006/02/a_science_policy_bash.php