Wonkette: Who ordered Pat Tillman’s murder?
posted at 9:05 pm on July 31, 2007 by Bryan
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No, I’m not linking to that smear site either. Doubleplusundead directed me to the post, so that’s where one link goes. Ace has the post, so another link goes there. There: Guttersnipe’s content discussed, but no traffic sent to them in the process. Here’s part of the post, head to Ace’s for the rest.
Dept. of Political Assassinations
Who Ordered the Execution of NFL/Army Hero Pat Tillman?
It’s almost too depressing to mention again, but let’s recap the Pat Tillman revelations from Army medical examiners and internal Pentagon reports released last week and find out what happens when famous football stars turned Army Heroes become anti-war critics:
* He was shot three times in the forehead at close range with an American M-16.
* This was after he was shot in the chest, legs and hand.
* And this was after he screamed to the “friendlies” that he was Pat Tillman and please stop shooting him.
* But they didn’t; they executed him.
* They were Americans.
* There wasn’t even an “enemy” around; not only was nobody shot by “enemy fire,” no equipment was shot by “enemy fire.”
* “Members of Tillman’s unit burned his body armor and uniform in an apparent attempt to hide the fact that he was killed by friendly fire.”
* Army medical examiners tried to get a criminal investigation opened, but they were shut down.
And so forth and so on. First rule of blogging: Link to your sources (or to Ace if your source is as disreputable as Wonkette). Note that there aren’t any links in that. You can go all the way over to Wonkette if you want. Not a single link in the entire conspiracy theory, so readers can’t check their sources.
And never mind that, just today, a three-star general got busted over the Tillman tragedy. He’s retired but he’ll probably lose a star, and it sounds like he should.
The Army censured a retired three-star general Tuesday for his handling of the friendly-fire death of Cpl. Pat Tillman, the former NFL player who gave up a lucrative career to become an Army Ranger.
Army Secretary Pete Geren also said Philip Kensinger, the retired lieutenant general, could be reduced in rank. A panel will decide whether he loses a star. Geren said he had considered “long and hard” whether to seek a court-martial for Kensinger before settling on the discipline announced Tuesday.
“I believe the buck stops with Gen. Kensinger,” Geren said.
I’ll be the last person to argue that the Army has handled Tillman’s death well. It hasn’t handled it well at all. It took a serious tragedy and, first, apparently tried to spin it into a story of heroism and then tried to cover up both the events at center of the tragedy, and cover up its own cover-up. As they say, it’s the cover-up and not the crime that gets you. And here we are.
Ask yourself, if you’re retired LtGen Philip Kensinger and the Army is busting your chops over this situation, but you know that it goes higher than you, are you just going to sit there and take it or are you going to speak out? Especially in today’s environment, when incompetent generals can find a warm home on the left by blaming their poor leadership on everyone in the chain of command above them? If the “conspiracy” goes higher than Kensinger, why isn’t he talking? If your answer is “Because they have dirt on him” or something along those lines, you’ve just added another layer to your conspiracy without a shred of evidence. That’s how these things usually work, though: When you run into a problem with the known facts, invent some new ones.
Part of the problem here is, though a Lieutenant General is a very very big fish in military circles and here’s one taking the rap, he’s not a household name and certainly not a known denizen of BushCo, and Layne’s gang probably doesn’t even know what a Lieutenant General is, so he’s not big enough for them. His censure doesn’t satisfy them and never will. Additionally, Layne and his minions really have no idea just how chaotic battlespaces can get and therefore can’t quite get their little minds around the fact that very very tragic things happen in war without anyone conspiring to make it happen. In fact, given the chaos of today’s battlefields and the sheer number of moving parts one would need to carry off a battlefield murder like that which Wonkette alleges, it’s nearly impossible to pull off the kind of murder they’re theorizing. This isn’t David murdering Uriah to steal his wife on a battlefield consisting of swords, shields and arrows. But the Wonkettes really have no knowledge of anything they’re writing about on this, or anything else of substance or importance. Unfortunately, that never seems to slow them down.
Time was, a very long time ago, Ken Layne seemed like a stand-up guy. He coined the anti-MSM “this is the internet and we can fact-check your as$” line, which was so brilliant we all parroted it and started up our own blogs to follow it. But that seems like a hundred years ago now.
Somewhere along the way, like so many on the left, Layne reverted to form and then cranked his leftardedness up to 11. Now, I really can’t find a clean word to describe his work accurately so I won’t bother. Just note that his pseudoblog Wonkette is floating a gross conspiracy theory centered on just how high must the plot to murder Pat Tillman go, and the lefty blogs are eating it up. These conspiracies, with more moving parts than a Rube Goldberg device and less internal narrative logic than a Scott Thomas diary, provide a balm for leftists in a confusing world. For most on the left, the conspiracies are really about self-empowerment. It’s a scary world out there, but if all our problems start in DC, well then the world is rational and they might have some power to fix everything by voting the bums out or impeaching them. But if the scary world is as irrational and the frights are as widespread as they appear, then the left is completely and totally powerless to do anything about anything. It’s a world where strength, resolve, and action are necessary to preserve our liberty and civilization. Do any of those qualities describe the average leftist today?
Wonkette’s motives in floating the Tillman conspiracy are probably more mercenary though: They know that leftists love them some conspiracy, so posting this one will drive up traffic. Traffic means revenue. And the pity is, it’s working.
Update: I stand corrected. The Laynettes had one link in their conspiracy theory. It goes to Max Blumenthal, last seen infiltrating Osama’s camp in outer Waziristan. That’s just how he rolls.
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Heh, sorry I didn’t get back to you sooner Bryan. I always cite my source, even for a cesspit full of bipedal roaches like Wonkette, so its linked, but you don’t have to click to Wonkette.
Bad Candy on July 31, 2007 at 9:10 PM
Here’s my copy of Wonkette’s post.
Bad Candy on July 31, 2007 at 9:11 PM
And since you mention Beauchamp, here’s a detailed dissection of Beauchamp’s blog for anyone who wants it for future reference. Its got nearly every potentially important comment and post.
Bad Candy on July 31, 2007 at 9:16 PM
You know Byran, I respect and appreciate your going to all the toruble to point out what a bunch of idiots run Wonkette and just the obvious problems with their slanders for inter-hits – but this is Wonkette were talking about…Wonkette! The same bright lights who were so excruciatingly PUNKED in the sinister Sleestak Email “conspiracy” – not exactly mental giants over there anyways.
Topsecretk9 on July 31, 2007 at 9:19 PM
I strongly urge an objective investigation into the incident leading to Tillman’s death. After seeing the interviews with those involved in the incident and myself having led men in combat in three countries for our country, I think the friendly fire was plausible. Premeditation of murder is promoted by those who do not have the combat experience to understand how the situation of life and death evolves. The 3 round grouping, if true, is an unknown. The left exploits what it does not understand. Regardless we all need to know what happened and to this date we don’t.
volsense on July 31, 2007 at 9:21 PM
Not technically true Bryan, you may wanna revise this. They did have a link to Max Blumenthal at HuffPo on the last bullet point. Not that that’s proof of anything, but even stupid little semantic crap like that gets used. You can see the entirety of the post at my place, as you can see it at Wonkette.
BTW for those that don’t know doubleplusundead is my blog.
Bad Candy on July 31, 2007 at 9:30 PM
A 5.56 ball ammo round fired from an M-16A2 has a muzzle velocity of 975 m/s.
At close range things like heads pretty much explode.
Having a stable target remaining for the subsequent shots is unlikely
and superfluous.
TheSitRep on July 31, 2007 at 9:30 PM
Is it Wonkette or Wankette?
Wade on July 31, 2007 at 9:36 PM
Another tally mark goes on the chalkboard under the “evidence that liberal knowledge of the military stops at crappy Oliver Stone flicks” category.
If a higher up told me to frag a comrade, my next stop would be the inspector general’s office.
Most people understand that.
Liberals do not.
John from OPFOR on July 31, 2007 at 9:38 PM
I’m with you here completely.
Spirit of 1776 on July 31, 2007 at 9:39 PM
Brain dead fools!
rplat on July 31, 2007 at 9:40 PM
That’s what blows my mind on these things. Where is the connection to reality?
Spirit of 1776 on July 31, 2007 at 9:42 PM
I second Topsecretk9. Doesn’t Wonkette carry about as much weight and credibility as The National Enquirer … or less?
jeremiad on July 31, 2007 at 9:45 PM
Where are all those pictures of the lefties marching at peace parades suggesting that fragging is a good thing?
anne on July 31, 2007 at 9:47 PM
You and k9 are missing the big point, first, the insane fixation on conspiracy theories. Second, as Ace and a fellow moroncommenter point out, the left only views the serviceman in two forms, the callous, bloodthirsty savage like Beauchamp describes, or a victim of the malevolent Bush regime, as they are now with Tillman.
Bad Candy on July 31, 2007 at 9:51 PM
I must be psychic. I knew that link was to a Karpinski story. :::spit:::
baldilocks on July 31, 2007 at 9:53 PM
Who needs reality when you can create your own!?
John from OPFOR on July 31, 2007 at 9:54 PM
OK BadCandy – but I still say the Wonkette crowd ain’t got anything on mensa – they aren’t the sharpest of pencils and as Jermaid points out not high on the credibility/weight totem poll – I’d rank the Onion as having more credibility – at least the Onion is an intentional parody.
Topsecretk9 on July 31, 2007 at 9:56 PM
Doesn’t matter, this sort of thing is a good example of what the left is. One of few cards we can play right now is to show how nuts the lefties are.
Bad Candy on July 31, 2007 at 9:58 PM
Somebody felt like a catastrophic jackass for killing a certified sports star / potential war hero.
The cover-up was as goddammned stupid as firing without a clear target.
(Tillman was ill-advised to stand up and wave with gunfire going on. Stay down and wave a shirt on a rifle.
Shirts don’t die.)
A mess, all around.
They should have just admitted that it was a tragedy, immediately, and let everyone understand that warfare is semi-organized hysterical chaos, at best, and well-meaning potential heroes die in idiotic snafus, too.
As the history of every war shows, from The Horns of Hattin disaster during the Crusades to the “amphibious tanks” sinking like stones, crew and all, into the ocean on D-Day.
profitsbeard on July 31, 2007 at 9:59 PM
That’s true and the mindcrimes of Scott Thomas, etc are a fount of this stuff. But somewhere on the line, someone has to buying into the propaganda unless it is done simply for its own sake. Which is possible I guess. Sure seems to apply to Reid and co.
Spirit of 1776 on July 31, 2007 at 10:03 PM
Someone on Riehl world view coined a new one
Community-Based-Reality
Topsecretk9 on July 31, 2007 at 10:07 PM
Bryan, as you write dismissively of Skankette’s journalistic ethics, might I remind you that her big break came as a publicity pimp for a D.C. prostitute to congressional staffers. I admire your clarity of thought on this difficult story, and your clarity of ethics in refusing to stoop to linking to that skank.
Jaibones on July 31, 2007 at 10:16 PM
Good job Bryan.
Griz on July 31, 2007 at 10:25 PM
*This as you so aptly allude to Bryan, explains
theirthe need for a conspiracy theory in any “loony” mind .**In short, “No”
You really have out done yourself again on explaining truth, wisdom, strength, resolve and action.
Mcguyver on July 31, 2007 at 10:47 PM
The libs thinking is so twisted and negative about this country, they can’t understand or comprehend how anyone would support America. Their disturbed minds project their twisted view of a situation onto the participants. Libs think the soldiers in Tillman’s squad fragged him because they support the idea of fragging leaders and assume everyone else does too.
The facts will never convince them, but they help show everybody else how disturbed these people are.
Mallard T. Drake on August 1, 2007 at 12:36 AM
Only in America can nonentitites like Wonkette be quote- or noteworthy. Wait, this trait the rest of the world loves about America, and has adopted, without a fight, or the slightest resistance. See euro tabloids.
Entelechy on August 1, 2007 at 12:46 AM
See people can say Wonkette has no credibilty, and don’t bother. But Olby shouldn’t have credibility either. But his word is gospel to the sheeple. They buy in to anything that makes an argument for them. They don’t need facts. All they need is an idea.
PowWow on August 1, 2007 at 12:56 AM
Wonkette is like the Weekly World News, except, of course, that the Weekly World News makes no attempt to portray their stories as serious and they know that their readers know their stories aren’t serious.
JinxMcHue on August 1, 2007 at 1:08 AM
Hopefully they’ll take Weekly World News’ cue and fold.
Bad Candy on August 1, 2007 at 1:14 AM
Bryan and Bad Candy: Good work, one more time the truth beats down the Truthers. In this story the truth did not just come out, it was forced into the open by digging and piling on.
Time to take a breath and then back into the mud filled trenches. Between now and September you will be called on to defend the integrity of General Peteraus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker.
What you’re doing reminds me of stepping on cockroaches. Crunching one seems to have no effect on the others.
TunaTalon on August 1, 2007 at 9:36 AM
Truthers. Paranoia we destroy ya.
smellthecoffee on August 1, 2007 at 9:40 AM
Area 51 escapee.
saved on August 1, 2007 at 9:48 AM
Hell, a .30-06 will do that from a few feet away…like you said, the head explodes when fired upon at close range. I thought even a .22 could do some serious damage to the head when fired point-blank.
Wouldn’t Tillman’s missing head from those 3 M-16 rounds have been mentioned before now? (That’s a rhetorical question, mind you…)
If they don’t want us honoring him for serving his country because of friendly fire & cover-up, that’s one thing…but then to use him as a propaganda tool for the Anti-US crowd?
Typical hypocrisy from the Anti-War Left.
Miss_Anthrope on August 1, 2007 at 10:06 AM
The lesson I draw from this is the difference between the face and mind of the media. When I see Wonkette on the news as a panelist discussing some topic, she presents a rational face to the audience though her take is usually to the left. However, when you read her write something like Pat Tillman was murdered on orders, you realize that she is frigging insane. This is the product of a mind that has little contact with the military and seems to have drawn all its information about the military from made for TV movies. It makes you wonder what madness lurks beneath the reasonable faces of all those other liberal media journalists. A considerable amount, I reckon. When you read Wonkette unplugged, you realize that you are watching the media when it’s on its meds on camera. Off camera, they wallow in an opium den of liberalism.
Friendly fire has always been a fact of war and always will be. In movies, it’s pretty obvious who and where everyone is. In reality, it’s anything but. When you have a bunch of young men with guns being attacked, lots of tragic accidents can happen.
Even in ancient history, when men fought in linear formations with edged weapons, there was inadvertent killing of allies. When the men in line stirred up dust while hacking at the foe in the opposing line, the line could undulate and form a salient, doubling back on itself. The two lines of soldiers, both on the same side, blinded by airborne dust, double back on each other and the soldiers would hack at each other unknowing.
Blue on blue deaths is why they invented uniforms way back in ancient armies.
Tantor on August 1, 2007 at 12:01 PM
more on the “rumsfeld refused to testify” nonsense.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/08/01/tillman.probe/index.html
jummy on August 1, 2007 at 2:42 PM
Caught my comment on the Rowe-back-to-Iraq story, eh?
Freelancer on August 2, 2007 at 6:24 AM
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