Video: the Mondays with Michelle and Kirsten segment
posted at 10:29 pm on July 30, 2007 by Bryan
O’Reilly hammered Kirsten for the Dems’ kowtowing to Kos, and then congratulated the NYT for publishing cautiously optimistic editorials on Iraq. The boss makes Bill’s salient point better than he does in the first part, namely, that it’s not commenters who are the primary problem at Kos. It’s the man himself and his “featured diarists” who make the site a hateful place most days.
Now, anticipating the reaction of free speech absolutists, there are degrees of offense and degrees of response. No one here is arguing that anyone at Kos deserves felony charges along the lines of what’s going on at Pace, and no here is going to argue for that. What is reasonable, though, is to expect better judgment from Democrat presidential candidates than to attend YearlyKos and post on that site given its track record and consistent content.
The second portion of the segment deals with the NYT’s optimistic editorials on Iraq.
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Exactly! No one over there is policing the comments, because the “man himself” supports the vile discourse. Papa Bear is right that the candidates who attend the debate are legitimizing that trash. They really are afraid of the far-left, and this should show us all that the far left is in control of the Democrat party. Recall how the Dems gained control in the last election. It was by pandering to these very people. Impeach Bush; bring the troops home now; convene a war crimes trial for Cheney, et. al., it never stops. And it’s amazing they learned absolutely no lesson from their shameless pandering when these trolls start demanding payback from them. Senator Clinton is a complete fool for lending credence to that site after the manner(s) in which they have smeared her lately. Ugh! They get what they deserve.
thedecider on July 30, 2007 at 10:42 PM
why do these videos constantly stop to buffer?
wryteacher on July 30, 2007 at 10:46 PM
Yeah, the very crucial “Kos swing voters” were obviously a huge reason the Dems won Congress.
Seriously though, I’d think the main reason that Dems shouldn’t attend the Kos Karnival is that its wasting time preaching to the choir. They’ve got the leftist vote all locked up, because nobody on Kos is at risk for voting for Mitt.
This is a win for the right: play up the Dems preaching to a convention of truthers, mock them like they deserve it, and away we go.
e-pirate on July 30, 2007 at 10:49 PM
Just think of the campaign commercials. Rudy won’t even say the word “democrat”. He’ll just say, “I’m running against the liberals. The liberal party. Socialism. Socialized medicine. When he campaigns in Jewish areas of NY, NJ, and Florida he just has to point to this stuff and the Koran case at Pace and use the phrase “self hatred”. It will resonate with that community. This kooky left wing stuff will turn off all the midwestern, mountain and plains states Dems. The Jon Tester crowd. This is exactly what needs to happen. The McGovernites are back and in charge and they will lead the dems off a cliff.
D0WNT0WN on July 30, 2007 at 10:51 PM
Slow connection? What are you on?
TheBigOldDog on July 30, 2007 at 10:51 PM
I believe within the past two weeks I seen something on one of the CSPANs that the guy from Brookings was on, he basically was part of a panel for strategy in Iraq. His strategy was to get out NOW.
I guess he was not such a genius was he?
WoosterOh on July 30, 2007 at 10:55 PM
Wrong! “These very people” mean the far left anti-war movement, of which the Kos crowd are card-carrying members.
However, I will agree with you on this:
If the GOP doesn’t grab as many sound bites as it can from this convention, they really do deserve to lose the next elections.
thedecider on July 30, 2007 at 11:00 PM
why do these videos constantly stop to buffer?
wryteacher on July 30, 2007 at 10:46 PM
If you have a slow connection, Like I have where I am right now, just hit the pause, open a new window and read or look at something else, depending on your preference, then come back when it is loaded.
MalkinFan on July 30, 2007 at 11:02 PM
Sevenload requires a downstream speed of at least 500 kbps to run right. Perhaps your ISP had a hiccup.
steveegg on July 30, 2007 at 11:05 PM
All I can say mate is that, Michelle makes Bill look stale.
Mcguyver on July 30, 2007 at 11:06 PM
A five minute clip and not a single “Well, I agree with Michelle”.
I feel robbed. It’s almost like going to a Lynyrd Skynyrd concert and not hearing “Freebird”.
Mike Honcho on July 30, 2007 at 11:10 PM
I missed the beginning of the opening segment. What was the picture from Kos that O’Reilly showed?
aunursa on July 30, 2007 at 11:12 PM
Kirsten really needs to quit swimming in that Egyptian river.
infidel4life on July 30, 2007 at 11:13 PM
MM on Kos “…it’s a sewer top to bottom…”. Like I said before, it’s a latrine/a sewer filled with lots of rats who love the medium. Now the Democrat candidates are joining the slush. No more, no less.
Entelechy on July 30, 2007 at 11:14 PM
Malkin definitely makes the argument much better than O’Reilly who doesn’t seem to fully understand what he’s talking about when it comes to blogs.
You can’t meet with the KKK just because some people there support you and you shouldn’t meet with the DailyKos crowd.
frankj on July 30, 2007 at 11:23 PM
The irony of ironies is that while KP is attending a DLC meeting, Kos had formulated a super secret plan to destroy the DLC back in 2005.
Mike Honcho on July 30, 2007 at 11:23 PM
KP’s hair looked a little flat tonight. Out of conditioner perhaps?
Dirthead on July 30, 2007 at 11:28 PM
jambus59 on July 30, 2007 at 11:32 PM
Interesting comment from someone calling themselves ‘Dirthead.’
;-)
infidel4life on July 30, 2007 at 11:35 PM
14.4 modems just don’t cut it anymore
tlynch001 on July 30, 2007 at 11:35 PM
My thought exactly. Ought to be fun “chumming” the waters.
Tennman on July 30, 2007 at 11:52 PM
“This may come as a shock to you Bill… we just don’t care.” The Democrats slogan and #1 creed. Except they do care about one thing… lining their pockets with taxpayer dollars.
Griz on July 31, 2007 at 12:11 AM
Kos already had on his site that O’Reilly planned a “Hit Piece” on him
Im still waiting for Martyr Kos to strap on his explosive vest and blow himself up to show he believes in what he says
Wait that takes courage something he completely lacks in.
He will do what he always does whine and complain about the conspiracy that has taken over the US and seeks to stop him
William Amos on July 31, 2007 at 12:23 AM
infidel4life on July 30, 2007 at 11:35 PM
HA! How could I have missed the irony…
Dirthead on July 31, 2007 at 12:40 AM
Kos is an arse, but KP is a doll and she’s right. Freedom of expression is going to stir up some nasty stuff unfortunately augmented by the nature of the net. Kos is one of those places where the nasty congregate.
While it is true it might be ideologically better for the candidates to go to the DLC, the $ is for the Dems is in the net, in the Kos crowd. It’s not realistic to expect them not to go and not to play to their base for $.
That happens to me from time to time too…maybe a matter of # of simultaneous views. Not sure.
Spirit of 1776 on July 31, 2007 at 1:19 AM
The look on Michelle’s face while Kirsten is defending Kos is just priceless.
Kirsten must have a pretty conflicted conscience, because she seems too smart to be a liberal and probably is aware of that at some level.
Halley on July 31, 2007 at 2:23 AM
I felt O’Reilly was an early Iraq-defeat-ite.
I think he models his views so people will like him.
But he’ll sometimes take a contrarian view solely to feign independence.
TheSitRep on July 31, 2007 at 6:25 AM
Kirsten is for free speach.
Was that her position about the Ann Coulter/CPAC issue?
peacenprosperity on July 31, 2007 at 7:08 AM
Something creepy I noticed about dKos the other day.
flipflop on July 31, 2007 at 7:48 AM
It is not really a problem is that the Democrat candidates are going to the Kos thing. In primaries, candidates talk to their party’s extremists, because they are large block. For instance, I would be shocked if any candidate for the Republican Party doesn’t go talk at fundamentalist Christian colleges–even the candidates who are slightly more moderate.
The problem is that the Kos thing does represent the extreme of the Democratic Party, and that a significant percentage of Democratic congressmen appear to be influenced by Kos-like thought. In the political junkies’ dreamworld where people actually paid a small bit of attention to politics, we could use the Kos-thing against Democratic congressional candidates and quite a few Democratic Senators. Sadly, this point is too hard to communicate to the public in the existing political world.
Kristen should be asked directly about how Democrats in Congress have views identical to what one finds in Kosistan. My perception of how she would answer the question is that she’ll claim the Congressional Democrats don’t listen to the Kos Kids or think like them. Yet, the Congressional Democrats voting records suggest something quite more nuanced.
thuja on July 31, 2007 at 8:04 AM
Kristen and her spewing the pitiful lefts talking points. Come on, Kristen get some of your own ideas. BTY, is Kristen putting on some pounds or is that just a fat camera?
Wade on July 31, 2007 at 8:44 AM