Comments on: Hitchens on Pace U prosecution: “This has to stop, and it has to stop right now” http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/ The world’s first, full-service conservative Internet broadcast network Sun, 27 May 2012 22:42:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: ANOTHER ONE OF ISLAMIC CAIR’S HATE CRIMES, Again the pro Jihad (or at best apologetic for Islamic terrorism) CAIR, persecuting non Muslims who practice freedom « Arab racism Islamo fascism http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/comment-page-1/#comment-605167 ANOTHER ONE OF ISLAMIC CAIR’S HATE CRIMES, Again the pro Jihad (or at best apologetic for Islamic terrorism) CAIR, persecuting non Muslims who practice freedom « Arab racism Islamo fascism Thu, 02 Aug 2007 03:00:32 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/#comment-605167 [...] Hitchens on Pace U prosecution: “This has to stop, and it has to … Hot Air http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now [...] [...] Hitchens on Pace U prosecution: “This has to stop, and it has to … Hot Air http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now [...]

]]> By: countywolf http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/comment-page-1/#comment-600848 countywolf Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:01:44 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/#comment-600848 KStreet you're absolutley right about them wanting us dead. By 'separation' I was trying to be diplomatic. Of course it would be with proper borders and FENCING, which our current Feds don't believe in, with patrols to keep it secure. I feel there's jerks in this country that actually want this so-called sharia law. Once this group becomes big enough, there might be violence, just like in Iraq. I was just hoping for a way to be left apart and hopefull safe from these 6th century creatures. I suppose it's just a dream, and history will repeat itself. We'll have to fight and defeat these 'people' all over again, hopefully for good. KStreet you’re absolutley right about them wanting us dead. By ‘separation’ I was trying to be diplomatic. Of course it would be with proper borders and FENCING, which our current Feds don’t believe in, with patrols to keep it secure. I feel there’s jerks in this country that actually want this so-called sharia law. Once this group becomes big enough, there might be violence, just like in Iraq. I was just hoping for a way to be left apart and hopefull safe from these 6th century creatures. I suppose it’s just a dream, and history will repeat itself. We’ll have to fight and defeat these ‘people’ all over again, hopefully for good.

]]> By: NightmareOnKStreet http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/comment-page-1/#comment-600733 NightmareOnKStreet Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:54:56 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/#comment-600733 <blockquote>"...but by a separation from the problem. People will say, ‘alright, you want muslims and illegals in your neighborhood, fine, WE DON’T...’ countywolf on July 31, 2007 at 2:20 PM</blockquote> I'm not sure I understand what you're suggesting by "separation from the problem", do you mean divide up the area (block/city/county/etc)? Like they did in a classic episode of "I Love Lucy" (when Lucy refused to clean up after Ricky so they divided their apartment down the middle with masking tape)? I'm pretty sure that didn't work for them and it won't/can't work here either. Not when radical Muslims want us D-E-A-D no matter which side of the tape/ocean we find ourselves.

“…but by a separation from the problem. People will say, ‘alright, you want muslims and illegals in your neighborhood, fine, WE DON’T…’
countywolf on July 31, 2007 at 2:20 PM

I’m not sure I understand what you’re suggesting by “separation from the problem”, do you mean divide up the area (block/city/county/etc)? Like they did in a classic episode of “I Love Lucy” (when Lucy refused to clean up after Ricky so they divided their apartment down the middle with masking tape)? I’m pretty sure that didn’t work for them and it won’t/can’t work here either. Not when radical Muslims want us D-E-A-D no matter which side of the tape/ocean we find ourselves.

]]> By: countywolf http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/comment-page-1/#comment-600658 countywolf Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:20:19 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/#comment-600658 The only way to deal with it is to do a variation of why our first settlers came to this country in the 1600s. They came to avoid religious persecution. Remember, 50% of this country right now support varying degrees of the Left, as evidenced by our deadlocked Presidential and congressional elections, and support for the persecution of Christians and Jews by the ACLU. As far as 'illegals', currently we have a few citys and countys enacting ordinances to deal with the 'illegals' - in essence trying to get rid of them to keep their communities as they were, in defiance of the worthless Federal G, thereby, creating 'islands' free of these 'illegals' denegrating their lives. The same thing will happen with the 'muslim problem'. Communities, maybe as large as states, will do the same thing, freeing themselves from religious persecution by the islamists. I put it this way, because I don't think the problems will be solved by violence, as they were in the past, the Civil War, etc., but by a separation from the problem. People will say, 'alright, you want muslims and illegals in your neighborhood, fine, WE DON'T'. Just as there is a big migration from European communities to New Zealand to get away from their 'muslim problem' changing (ruining) their communities. Of course, this is all just a thought. As a wise man once said 'we shall see what we shall see'. The only way to deal with it is to do a variation of why our first settlers came to this country in the 1600s. They came to avoid religious persecution. Remember, 50% of this country right now support varying degrees of the Left, as evidenced by our deadlocked Presidential and congressional elections, and support for the persecution of Christians and Jews by the ACLU. As far as ‘illegals’, currently we have a few citys and countys enacting ordinances to deal with the ‘illegals’ – in essence trying to get rid of them to keep their communities as they were, in defiance of the worthless Federal G, thereby, creating ‘islands’ free of these ‘illegals’ denegrating their lives. The same thing will happen with the ‘muslim problem’. Communities, maybe as large as states, will do the same thing, freeing themselves from religious persecution by the islamists. I put it this way, because I don’t think the problems will be solved by violence, as they were in the past, the Civil War, etc., but by a separation from the problem. People will say, ‘alright, you want muslims and illegals in your neighborhood, fine, WE DON’T’. Just as there is a big migration from European communities to New Zealand to get away from their ‘muslim problem’ changing (ruining) their communities. Of course, this is all just a thought. As a wise man once said ‘we shall see what we shall see’.

]]> By: NightmareOnKStreet http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/comment-page-1/#comment-600592 NightmareOnKStreet Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:52:41 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/#comment-600592 <blockquote>So let me get this straight. This is crime because he did not own the Korans. This is a “hate crime” because the Korans were flushed with “malice”. Flushing two might seem to support some malice. <em>What if I flush four Bibles a dictionary and some Shakespeare</em>, in a demonstration of my disdain for the Koran and Islam and the contrast of their values, that I declare as a repudiation of the Koran and Islam? Agrippa2k on July 30, 2007 at 4:44 PM</blockquote> <blockquote><strong>...That’s not really our style, because unlike the left, we aren’t a bunch of yammering sh*theads.</strong> <strong>So, how do we deal with this?</strong> georgej on July 31, 2007 at 9:22 AM</blockquote> <strong>STYLES CHANGE. Maybe we need to adjust ours just a little?</strong> Here's a suggestion starting with "Performance Art": (this is easier if one imagines Joe Pesci in his role as Leo Getz in Lethal Weapon 2)"Okay, okay, how about we get <strong>a Koran, a couple of pork chops, a copy of Hustler Magazine and the Danish cartoons of Mohammed, put them all in a blender </strong>with some red paint and write 'F*ck Terrorism' all over the <strong>new foot baths installed at Pace University</strong>... "

So let me get this straight.

This is crime because he did not own the Korans. This is a “hate crime” because the Korans were flushed with “malice”. Flushing two might seem to support some malice.

What if I flush four Bibles a dictionary and some Shakespeare, in a demonstration of my disdain for the Koran and Islam and the contrast of their values, that I declare as a repudiation of the Koran and Islam?

Agrippa2k on July 30, 2007 at 4:44 PM

…That’s not really our style, because unlike the left, we aren’t a bunch of yammering sh*theads.

So, how do we deal with this?

georgej on July 31, 2007 at 9:22 AM

STYLES CHANGE. Maybe we need to adjust ours just a little? Here’s a suggestion starting with “Performance Art”: (this is easier if one imagines Joe Pesci in his role as Leo Getz in Lethal Weapon 2)”Okay, okay, how about we get a Koran, a couple of pork chops, a copy of Hustler Magazine and the Danish cartoons of Mohammed, put them all in a blender with some red paint and write ‘F*ck Terrorism’ all over the new foot baths installed at Pace University… “

]]> By: politicalpartypoop.com » Blog Archive » Which of these is a crime in America? http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/comment-page-1/#comment-600026 politicalpartypoop.com » Blog Archive » Which of these is a crime in America? Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:36:27 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/#comment-600026 [...] Snoop July 31st, 2007 Update: LGF has background about the arresting officer. Allah has more legal analysis based on the complaint. And Christopher Hitchens weighs in: Before me is a recent report that a student at Pace University in New York City has been arrested for a hate crime in consequence of an alleged dumping of the Quran. Nothing repels me more than the burning or desecration of books, and if, for example, this was a volume from a public or university library, I would hope that its mistreatment would constitute a misdemeanor at the very least. But if I choose to spit on a copy of the writings of Ayn Rand or Karl Marx or James Joyce, that is entirely my business. When I check into a hotel room and send my free and unsolicited copy of the Gideon Bible or the Book of Mormon spinning out of the window, I infringe no law, except perhaps the one concerning litter. Why do we not make this distinction in the case of the Quran? We do so simply out of fear, and because the fanatical believers in that particular holy book have proved time and again that they mean business when it comes to intimidation. Surely that should be to their discredit rather than their credit. Should not the “moderate” imams of On Faith have been asked in direct terms whether they are, or are not, negotiating with a gun on the table? The Pace University incident becomes even more ludicrous and sinister when it is recalled that Islamists are the current leaders in the global book-burning competition. [...] [...] Snoop July 31st, 2007 Update: LGF has background about the arresting officer. Allah has more legal analysis based on the complaint. And Christopher Hitchens weighs in: Before me is a recent report that a student at Pace University in New York City has been arrested for a hate crime in consequence of an alleged dumping of the Quran. Nothing repels me more than the burning or desecration of books, and if, for example, this was a volume from a public or university library, I would hope that its mistreatment would constitute a misdemeanor at the very least. But if I choose to spit on a copy of the writings of Ayn Rand or Karl Marx or James Joyce, that is entirely my business. When I check into a hotel room and send my free and unsolicited copy of the Gideon Bible or the Book of Mormon spinning out of the window, I infringe no law, except perhaps the one concerning litter. Why do we not make this distinction in the case of the Quran? We do so simply out of fear, and because the fanatical believers in that particular holy book have proved time and again that they mean business when it comes to intimidation. Surely that should be to their discredit rather than their credit. Should not the “moderate” imams of On Faith have been asked in direct terms whether they are, or are not, negotiating with a gun on the table? The Pace University incident becomes even more ludicrous and sinister when it is recalled that Islamists are the current leaders in the global book-burning competition. [...]

]]> By: Hot Air » Blog Archive » WashTimes can’t find any hate-crime prosecutions related to destroyed Bibles http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/comment-page-1/#comment-599887 Hot Air » Blog Archive » WashTimes can’t find any hate-crime prosecutions related to destroyed Bibles Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:44:42 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/#comment-599887 [...] Surprise. A Lexis-Nexis search isn’t foolproof as it might not turn up cases that were tried by jury and not appealed, i.e., where there were no rulings issued from any bench recounting the facts of the case, but you’ve got to figure the ACLU would have climbed aboard and left a record somewhere if anyone had been charged with Bible-flushing. As it is, and as I hinted yesterday, the problem here has less to do with the statute than with how the statute is being selectively enforced by the D.A. and NYPD. Prosecutors have wide discretion in choosing whom to charge and whom not to charge; absent extreme proof of bias, there’s not much a court can do to make them be more evenhanded. That’s why the next Lexis-Nexis search should be to see if any other Koran desecrations have been prosecuted or if this is the first. Do they have a pattern of arbitrary enforcement, in other words? If so, it’s good political leverage even if it’s not legally actionable. [...] [...] Surprise. A Lexis-Nexis search isn’t foolproof as it might not turn up cases that were tried by jury and not appealed, i.e., where there were no rulings issued from any bench recounting the facts of the case, but you’ve got to figure the ACLU would have climbed aboard and left a record somewhere if anyone had been charged with Bible-flushing. As it is, and as I hinted yesterday, the problem here has less to do with the statute than with how the statute is being selectively enforced by the D.A. and NYPD. Prosecutors have wide discretion in choosing whom to charge and whom not to charge; absent extreme proof of bias, there’s not much a court can do to make them be more evenhanded. That’s why the next Lexis-Nexis search should be to see if any other Koran desecrations have been prosecuted or if this is the first. Do they have a pattern of arbitrary enforcement, in other words? If so, it’s good political leverage even if it’s not legally actionable. [...]

]]> By: georgej http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/comment-page-1/#comment-599832 georgej Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:22:20 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/#comment-599832 A lot of venting here (how appropriate (grin)). I enjoy a good rant myself, every now and then. But nobody is talking about really working to stop CAIR (an arm of Hamas, after all) from continuing on with this kind of stuff. Pissing on Korans and flushing them down toilets doesn't get CAIR (and all those "muslim student associations" AKA "College Jihadists") to cease their activities. Their imams are practicing hijacking an airliner. So, they are suing because some people complained. They're collecting money to kill innocent people in the middle east, and scream with umbrage when caught. <strong>NO DOUBT </strong>they are planning terrorist strikes here at home. So, we need a nation-wide plan to stop these people. CAIR is a small group (as umbrella advocacy groups go). They can be bankrupted. The FBI could put them out of business if ordered to do so. And their terrorist connections could earn them prison terms at Gitmo. Note, I am not talking about Muslims in general. I am specifically referring to an organization that IS PART OF A TERRORIST FRONT, that is working very hard here in the USA to institute an "Islamic Republic." I'm not advocating breaking the law, but Hitchens is right. This back-door sneaking shaira law into the USA has got to stop. But I don't know how to do it besides filing a whole bunch of expensive law suits against CAIR. I suppose we could pony up dollars and run full page ads denouncing CAIR and their behavior in the major Sunday papers -- assuming that they leftist MSM would allow us to. Which I doubt they'd do. We could put up billboards with the same message. Unlike the unemployed "students" of the left, it's hard for us to organize a nationwide protest, complete with signs and so on. That's not really our style, because unlike the left, we aren't a bunch of yammering sh*theads. So, how do we deal with this? A lot of venting here (how appropriate (grin)).

I enjoy a good rant myself, every now and then.

But nobody is talking about really working to stop CAIR (an arm of Hamas, after all) from continuing on with this kind of stuff. Pissing on Korans and flushing them down toilets doesn’t get CAIR (and all those “muslim student associations” AKA “College Jihadists”) to cease their activities.

Their imams are practicing hijacking an airliner. So, they are suing because some people complained. They’re collecting money to kill innocent people in the middle east, and scream with umbrage when caught. NO DOUBT they are planning terrorist strikes here at home.

So, we need a nation-wide plan to stop these people. CAIR is a small group (as umbrella advocacy groups go). They can be bankrupted. The FBI could put them out of business if ordered to do so. And their terrorist connections could earn them prison terms at Gitmo.

Note, I am not talking about Muslims in general. I am specifically referring to an organization that IS PART OF A TERRORIST FRONT, that is working very hard here in the USA to institute an “Islamic Republic.”

I’m not advocating breaking the law, but Hitchens is right. This back-door sneaking shaira law into the USA has got to stop. But I don’t know how to do it besides filing a whole bunch of expensive law suits against CAIR.

I suppose we could pony up dollars and run full page ads denouncing CAIR and their behavior in the major Sunday papers — assuming that they leftist MSM would allow us to. Which I doubt they’d do. We could put up billboards with the same message. Unlike the unemployed “students” of the left, it’s hard for us to organize a nationwide protest, complete with signs and so on. That’s not really our style, because unlike the left, we aren’t a bunch of yammering sh*theads.

So, how do we deal with this?

]]> By: awake http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/comment-page-1/#comment-599794 awake Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:05:38 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/#comment-599794 This "hate crime" accusation will never stick. This “hate crime” accusation will never stick.

]]> By: William2006 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/comment-page-1/#comment-599382 William2006 Tue, 31 Jul 2007 08:10:33 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/#comment-599382 Just tie the student to the whipping post and beat him with 100 lashes with a rhino hide whip, or a bamboo cane, or some other excruciatingly painful tool of torture, then sever the student's hands and pluck out his eyes. Isn't that enough to satisfy the lust for vengeance against him, his offense to Islam and Muslims, and his "hate crime?" And that would probably be considered "mercy," or letting him off easy. William Just tie the student to the whipping post and beat him with 100 lashes with a rhino hide whip, or a bamboo cane, or some other excruciatingly painful tool of torture, then sever the student’s hands and pluck out his eyes.

Isn’t that enough to satisfy the lust for vengeance against him, his offense to Islam and Muslims, and his “hate crime?”

And that would probably be considered “mercy,” or letting him off easy.

William

]]> By: sonnyspats1 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/comment-page-1/#comment-598842 sonnyspats1 Tue, 31 Jul 2007 03:07:06 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/#comment-598842 The Hitchman makin copies! The Hitchman makin copies!

]]> By: Tim Burton http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/comment-page-1/#comment-598576 Tim Burton Tue, 31 Jul 2007 01:35:23 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/#comment-598576 I need to find a free Koran and Piss on it....All the while wishing that Mohammed and his followers burn in hell for eternity. I'd make a great piece of artwork.... I need to find a free Koran and Piss on it….All the while wishing that Mohammed and his followers burn in hell for eternity. I’d make a great piece of artwork….

]]> By: NoisyRoom.net » Blog Archive » Noisy News Around the Web - 07/30/2007… http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/comment-page-1/#comment-598452 NoisyRoom.net » Blog Archive » Noisy News Around the Web - 07/30/2007… Tue, 31 Jul 2007 00:23:39 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/#comment-598452 [...] Hitchens on Pace U prosecution: “This has to stop, and it has to stop right now” - Hot Air [...] [...] Hitchens on Pace U prosecution: “This has to stop, and it has to stop right now” – Hot Air [...]

]]> By: canopfor http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/comment-page-1/#comment-598288 canopfor Mon, 30 Jul 2007 23:16:26 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/#comment-598288 So abusing the Koran in the middle east will get you death,and you won,t get the luxury of 15 years of appeals. So are they trying to import this penalty to the West! So abusing the Koran in the middle east will get
you death,and you won,t get the luxury of 15 years
of appeals.
So are they trying to import this penalty to the West!

]]> By: On-my-soap-box http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/comment-page-1/#comment-598137 On-my-soap-box Mon, 30 Jul 2007 22:12:59 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/#comment-598137 <blockquote>Would it be a hatecrime to hate the fraudulent and anti-First Amendment idea of the “hatecrime” itself?</blockquote> How about, since the Constitution is a living document, does it hate itself? Should we hate it and call it intolerant because it mentions GOD? Should we jail anybody who wants to uphold the Constitution? Is that why we now use the Koran to swear in Politicians? I just need some answers. /sarc off

Would it be a hatecrime to hate the fraudulent and anti-First Amendment idea of the “hatecrime” itself?

How about, since the Constitution is a living document, does it hate itself? Should we hate it and call it intolerant because it mentions GOD? Should we jail anybody who wants to uphold the Constitution? Is that why we now use the Koran to swear in Politicians? I just need some answers.

/sarc off

]]> By: Esthier http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/comment-page-1/#comment-598116 Esthier Mon, 30 Jul 2007 22:03:09 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/#comment-598116 <blockquote>Big takeaway for all future Koran-flushers out there: Get your own copy. You can get free copies online or at almost any regular bookstore. Get the small cheap copies. Perfect flushig size. Thomas the Wraith on July 30, 2007 at 5:43 PM</blockquote> Though I'd also assume if flushing a Koran caused any damage to property that isn't yours, you could still be running a serious legal risk.

Big takeaway for all future Koran-flushers out there: Get your own copy. You can get free copies online or at almost any regular bookstore. Get the small cheap copies. Perfect flushig size.

Thomas the Wraith on July 30, 2007 at 5:43 PM

Though I’d also assume if flushing a Koran caused any damage to property that isn’t yours, you could still be running a serious legal risk.

]]> By: profitsbeard http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/comment-page-1/#comment-598107 profitsbeard Mon, 30 Jul 2007 22:00:36 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/#comment-598107 Would it be a hatecrime to <em>hate</em> the fraudulent and anti-First Amendment <em>idea</em> of the "hatecrime" itself? Is it a crime to object to being hated? By intolerant, misogynistic, vile and violent dogmas in the Koran? Or is it a crime to respond to the threats in the Koran by trying to place such hateful material where it <em>symbolically</em> belongs? Stan S. needs to countersue Islam for promoting hateful, bigoted, and vicious "relgious" tenets via the Koran. Would it be a hatecrime to hate the fraudulent and anti-First Amendment idea of the “hatecrime” itself?

Is it a crime to object to being hated? By intolerant, misogynistic, vile and violent dogmas in the Koran? Or is it a crime to respond to the threats in the Koran by trying to place such hateful material where it symbolically belongs?

Stan S. needs to countersue Islam for promoting hateful, bigoted, and vicious “relgious” tenets via the Koran.

]]> By: fogw http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/comment-page-1/#comment-598080 fogw Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:52:55 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/#comment-598080 <blockquote>There will be a backlash. There will be hate crimes.</blockquote> ..... about three nanoseconds after the next attack occurs here at home. That will coincide with the first time American-Muslims gather the courage to criticize their jihadist brothers, which by then will be too late. When buildings are falling and more innocents are dying again, we will paint them all with the same brush. Sorry. Human nature.

There will be a backlash. There will be hate crimes.

….. about three nanoseconds after the next attack occurs here at home.

That will coincide with the first time American-Muslims gather the courage to criticize their jihadist brothers, which by then will be too late. When buildings are falling and more innocents are dying again, we will paint them all with the same brush.

Sorry. Human nature.

]]> By: Keli http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/comment-page-1/#comment-598066 Keli Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:45:13 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/#comment-598066 He raises a good point. Muslims cry that the danish cartoons insulted and enraged a billion Muslims. Well how many billions of Christians and Jews are outraged by 9/11 and suicide bombings in Israel and all over the world? We have a right to be enraged and insulted by the continuous bloody slaughtering of innocents in the name of Islam. I think those crimes are a little worse than cartoons or books in toilets. He raises a good point. Muslims cry that the danish cartoons insulted and enraged a billion Muslims. Well how many billions of Christians and Jews are outraged by 9/11 and suicide bombings in Israel and all over the world? We have a right to be enraged and insulted by the continuous bloody slaughtering of innocents in the name of Islam. I think those crimes are a little worse than cartoons or books in toilets.

]]> By: Thomas the Wraith http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/comment-page-1/#comment-598061 Thomas the Wraith Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:43:59 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/#comment-598061 Esthier - yes, the key to the Pace U case is that the Korans were university property. That was Shmulevich's big mistake. He should have spent the $5 at Barnes and Noble and gotten his own Koran. Then he could do whatever he wanted. The clearest parallel I can think of is the flag burning case a few months ago when the moonbats burned a flag - attached to someone's else's house. You can burn you own flag or flush your own Koran but not mine. Big takeaway for all future Koran-flushers out there: <strong>Get your own copy</strong>. You can get free copies online or at almost any regular bookstore. Get the small cheap copies. Perfect flushig size. Esthier – yes, the key to the Pace U case is that the Korans were university property. That was Shmulevich’s big mistake. He should have spent the $5 at Barnes and Noble and gotten his own Koran. Then he could do whatever he wanted. The clearest parallel I can think of is the flag burning case a few months ago when the moonbats burned a flag – attached to someone’s else’s house. You can burn you own flag or flush your own Koran but not mine.

Big takeaway for all future Koran-flushers out there: Get your own copy. You can get free copies online or at almost any regular bookstore. Get the small cheap copies. Perfect flushig size.

]]> By: infidel4life http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/comment-page-1/#comment-598056 infidel4life Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:42:08 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/#comment-598056 <blockquote>The Islamofacist police is going to create hatred in this country before it is over...........There will be a backlash. ThackerAgency on July 30, 2007 at 4:45 PM</blockquote> Yes there will. And the backlash will be <em>in response to Islamist hatred of <strong>us</strong></em>, not the other way around as they would have everyone believe. Hate begets hate, war begets war, and the patience of the American people will not last forever.

The Islamofacist police is going to create hatred in this country before it is over………..There will be a backlash.

ThackerAgency on July 30, 2007 at 4:45 PM

Yes there will. And the backlash will be in response to Islamist hatred of us, not the other way around as they would have everyone believe. Hate begets hate, war begets war, and the patience of the American people will not last forever.

]]> By: On-my-soap-box http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/comment-page-1/#comment-598053 On-my-soap-box Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:40:33 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/#comment-598053 <blockquote>Can someone explain the difference here? Please???????? bloggless on July 30, 2007 at 5:24 PM</blockquote> 1. Insulting Christians 2. Called it art That makes it ok!

Can someone explain the difference here? Please????????

bloggless on July 30, 2007 at 5:24 PM

1. Insulting Christians
2. Called it art

That makes it ok!

]]> By: Esthier http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/comment-page-1/#comment-598032 Esthier Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:34:21 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/#comment-598032 <blockquote>Can someone explain the difference here? Please???????? bloggless on July 30, 2007 at 5:24 PM</blockquote> The crucifix was his own and bought with his own money? I'm guessing.

Can someone explain the difference here? Please????????

bloggless on July 30, 2007 at 5:24 PM

The crucifix was his own and bought with his own money? I’m guessing.

]]> By: JadeNYU http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/comment-page-1/#comment-598024 JadeNYU Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:31:17 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/#comment-598024 <blockquote>MadisonConservative on July 30, 2007 at 4:50 PM</blockquote> I had a similar though after the big controversy over the Pope's statements about Islam. I started thinking, if everyone (or at least, a good majority of people) around the world said something considered and insult to Islam, wouldn't we all be back on an even playing field? The Pope wouldn't have been more or less incendiary than anyone else. Furthermore, perhaps they'd start to get used to hearing adverse things about their religion so it wouldn't be such a riot-provoking shock to them anymore.

MadisonConservative on July 30, 2007 at 4:50 PM

I had a similar though after the big controversy over the Pope’s statements about Islam.

I started thinking, if everyone (or at least, a good majority of people) around the world said something considered and insult to Islam, wouldn’t we all be back on an even playing field? The Pope wouldn’t have been more or less incendiary than anyone else. Furthermore, perhaps they’d start to get used to hearing adverse things about their religion so it wouldn’t be such a riot-provoking shock to them anymore.

]]> By: right2bright http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/comment-page-1/#comment-598021 right2bright Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:30:51 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/30/hitchens-on-pace-u-prosecution-this-has-to-stop-and-it-has-to-stop-right-now/#comment-598021 So if I state that it is against Christian law to deface a bible or verbally attack it, I can get someone thrown in jail on a hate crime? As a felony, meaning they can't vote? Okay, I think I have an idea on how the right can win for sure next election. So if I state that it is against Christian law to deface a bible or verbally attack it, I can get someone thrown in jail on a hate crime? As a felony, meaning they can’t vote?

Okay, I think I have an idea on how the right can win for sure next election.

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