Mitt? A Mormon going to war? Seriously asking a Mormon to drop the big one in a time of crisis?
EricPWJohnson on July 31, 2007 at 1:58 AM

Bwahahahahahaha!!

WHERE do you people come up with this crap?

Keep this one fact in mind, Hillary has been running for President for the last 5 15 years or more.

doriangrey on July 30, 2007 at 2:36 PM

Pardon the fix.

The basic problem between the two parties is this

One thinks peace is a thing that can be legislated

The other one thinks peace is when your enemies cry “enough” and leave you alone

I Lump everyone but Fred and Huckabee in the peace is a state of mind group

Rudy, Mitt

Honestly they are unproven, Freds’ votes and his statements on the war on terror are there long before the election process.

Rudy? come on seriously he has sooo many personal flaws that the strength to run an unpopular war is not in his genre.

Mitt? A Mormon going to war? Seriously asking a Mormon to drop the big one in a time of crisis?

A nuke running around the US we getting islamic backmail whose going to relatiate or more important order the first strike?

Amazing! I guess you’re not familiar with where the big campaign money comes from. Oh how cute. You actually thought it came from individual citizens like you and me, didn’t you?

I then documented that, in fact, 94% of the money Rudy has raised did, in fact, come from “individual citizens like you and me”:

The source of presidential campaign donations are a matter of record, and Rudy’s are documented right here.

94% ($33.3M) came from individual contributions
1% ($219K) came from PACs

Having been proven to be simply making sh*t up, Gregor tries a non-sequitur to wriggle out:

Uh … and you think “individuals” is limited to ‘only Americans who don’t own businesses?’ Is Bill Gates an “individual?” Is George Soros and “individual?” Are corporate officials “individuals” or are you saying that they don’t count?

Who said anything about owning businesses? You said the money didn’t come from individuals. I proved it did.

Yes, Bill Gates and George Soros are individuals, and they are each allowed to donate up to $2K to each and every candidate they wish, just like you and I.

$33 million from average middle class Americans. Right. Do the numbers on that, why don’t you.

What is your point, Einstein? This is all a matter of record. Based on the last reported figures (July 15), about 26,500 people have donated to Giuliani’s campaign. Of those, 18,200 (about 2/3’s) have donated $200 or less. Obviously, anyone who can afford to donate a significant sum to a political campaign is likely to be relatively well off.

Are you aware how many PACS and organizations George Soros is involved with? Do you believe that George Soros only accounts for the minimum individual donation to the Democratic Party?

Again, you just don’t know what you’re talking about. Soros and other big spenders (and their organizations) donate millions in *soft money* to the DNC, no doubt. But it is against the law for any person to donate more than a few $K to a *specific candidate*, and it is against law for any campaign to accept it.

In 2004, I maxed out early on donating to President Bush (no, I don’t own, operate, or even work for, a business…but I donated about 5% of my pre-tax annual salary).

Close to the election, I got a call from the Bush campaign soliciting another contribution. I told them I thought I was maxed-out, and they said no, so I said OK and wrote them another check for about $1K. A couple weeks later, out of the blue, they returned my donation to me in the form of a check from the Bush campaign, with a cover letter explaining that I *was* maxed out, and therefore they couldn’t accept any more money from me.

where did the excitement even come from?

Resolute on July 30, 2007 at 9:31 PM

Some TV show he was on.

Darnell Clayton on July 30, 2007 at 10:17 PM

Darnell, tsk, tsk, tsk. You need a better scoreboard. ;-)

Simple if the RNC wanted Hunter to be the front runner, he would be.

The RNC has already been proven willing to take the hit in elections in order to continue their own agenda and screw being in compliance with Conservative Americans much less Conservative ideology.

Rudy is the front runner because he’s a wool covered RINO and it appears Fred! is right there too.

Speakup on July 30, 2007 at 1:30 PM

The second pargraph above is sadly accurate. Tancredo has been persona non grata through the entire Bush Presidency precisely because of his very public stand against open borders. Tancredo is persona non grata to the MSM for the same reason and because they do not want to promote a Republican who might connect with the masses. So when both the GOP powerhogs, and the MSM tsk-tsk brigade dismiss Tancredo they have the same motives. It has worked well.

If the party bigs wish to promote a total unknown they can do so easily in a bait and switch convention. Such conventions brought us both Jimmy Carter, and Bill Clinton. The camera technique is simple, bring out the ugly ones first, and give them bad lighting. When the mood has been set, bring in the palatable snack and watch the crowd roar.

This won’t happen with Tancredo right now because the GOP Border Busters hate his guts. Of course, the conservative citizens now thoroughly hate the GOP which is why the GOP cannot raise money from the ‘little people’ anymore. Until shamnesty, the GOP out raised the DEMs with the masses.

I will not give the GOP a plug nickle

The question: if the GOP gives a party and the little people don’t come, can they still get the little people to vote for the mime the GOP selects this election?

I am not interested in the ‘Tancredo doesn’t have a chance’ argument. At this time, Tancredo doesn’t have a chance with the party big shots. He always has a chance with the masses but it takes a party to run a campaign.

This is not a typical election. The GOP top has proven they were just using the little people. They have revealed they despise the hicks and religies at the bottom. They tried to break bones to force in amnesty and end border control. It won’t go away. If they offer a half baked RINO it will not fly. They have to offer an outsider who did not participate in the gangster actions memorial day weekend.

They have lost my trust completely. Except Tancredo. If Rove hates him, Tancredo must be OK

Guilliani is very capable. However he did make that flip remark about loving illegals and if they pay taxes we need more of ‘em.

How does it feel to be declared the winner? ;-)

It’s Mitt! all the way baby! That is, if he can change his mind about the YouTube thing.

I think alot of you are missing one of Gregor’s important points which is that electing RINOs actually hurts the party. It doesnt make it more electable which seems to be the unfortunately flawed conventional wisdom. Polls showing things like decrease in the number of self-identified (R) are the result of the public being unable to distinguish policy wise between the two parties. Which party is actually tougher on immigration? Who knows its a toss up. It has nothing to do with the country moving left. There seems to be alot of evidence 2004 was punishment for R moving to far left. Those of you advocating electing a center-moderate are missing the boat tactically. Hillary will eat anyone for breakfast who is “moderate” like she pretends to be. Someone who is a sharp contrast is needed.

Now all that said Gregor is off his Rocker when he calls Romney a RINO. Once again complaints about Romney fail to look at his actual record. You really take a quote on his website that you say shows he is weak on enfocement as more important then his actual record where he got State troopers involved in enforcement?

I think Fredmania has run out of steam without leaving the station. His non-awnsers to softball questions from day 1 really leaves me wondering where did the excitement even come from?

That doesn’t leave much. Clearly not enough to give him the nomination.
csdeven on July 30, 2007 at 7:12 PM

Again, back to the “things done.” Only “things said” qualifies anyone to run, except ex-presidents. And they aren’t running.