Two can play CAIR’s game.
CAIR and the muslim students are NOT IMMUNE from legal action directed against them for their behavior.

I said this very thing a few days ago, we should file suit against these people and their scare tactic organizations. If only I were a tort lawyer.
Line up thousands of folks that have been harassed and scared and intimidated by CAIR / Islam by muslims, and whamo… HUGE law suit.
This should get started. Who wants to be the clearinghouse?

I found a Qu-ran, Koran, whatever it’s called in an abandoned VW bug. It was old, sun-bleached and abused. Rather than get into trouble by touching it with my infidel hands, I left it where I found it. Who do I call to report this hate crime?

Cair will sell you a Koran, but wants $8.00 to help defray the costs.

You could play ’skip the Koran over the pigwallow mudhole’, (the person that gets it to skip more than once before going under wins). Then there’d be the slam-dunk the Koran into a bucket of pigpoo hung up above the barn door. Who’s pig can eat a Koran the fastest?

… the only limit is the imagination.

In this case, an immediate federal civil rights suit should be filed on by Shmulevich’s lawyers against Pace and the muslim students and CAIR claiming violation of the First Amendment. In addition, a second federal law suit should be filed against the local cops claiming violation of Shmulevich’s rights under color of law.

Maybe the ADF could help with this.

2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

You can see this at work everywhere. Flushing the Koran is hate speech, but putting the cross in urine is art is just one of many many examples.

Even as we stand for the truth, recognize it’s a spiritual battle.

It’s hard to say if CAIR or the muslims on campus issued a “credible threat of violence” to get Pace to file criminal charges against the guy. At least, not without discovery and depositions.

The credible threat of violence is not necessarily linked to a specific act of submission. The threat is implied through previous behavior. This implied threat creates an atmosphere of intimidation in which the infidel is more inclined to submit. The role of the jihadist is to maintain this atmosphere of intimidation through media campaigns punctuated with occasional attacks.

georgej on July 29, 2007 at 6:39 AM

It has nothing to do with God. It has to do with the Muslims in America behaving like Americans. Their choice, not ours or God’s. So far, their so-called leaders are raising the ante.

In all of this, you can see the outlines of a very broad strategy to advance sharia. Terrorists create the credible threat of violence by perpetrating violence on innocents in the name of Islam. Activists, who may themselves disavow violence, nevertheless use the threat and the twin cry that they’re being “oppressed” (either because of the violence from government’s point of view or by individuals who dare say or do anything un-PC) to push weaklings like Pace administrators into doing their bidding, making sharia the de facto standard. CAIR, the strategy’s PR arm, celebrates the wins and wails about continued “oppression.”

It’s hard to say if CAIR or the muslims on campus issued a “credible threat of violence” to get Pace to file criminal charges against the guy. At least, not without discovery and depositions.

I think it be more likely that Pace was actually threatened with a massive law suit if they didn’t go after Shmulevich, rather than a threat of violence and riots. But I won’t rule out a threat of “demonstrations” (spelled “rioting”) by the campus muslims.

But reading thackeragency’s prediction of a coming backlash against Islam in America got me thinking.

Two can play CAIR’s game.

CAIR and the muslim students are NOT IMMUNE from legal action directed against them for their behavior. The imam’s suits should be met by counter suits charging INTENTIONAL infliction of emotional distress against the imams and CAIR. That’s a law suit that the imams WILL LOSE because their behavior was deliberate and it did induce emotional distress.

In this case, an immediate federal civil rights suit should be filed on by Shmulevich’s lawyers against Pace and the muslim students and CAIR claiming violation of the First Amendment. In addition, a second federal law suit should be filed against the local cops claiming violation of Shmulevich’s rights under color of law.

I am of the opinion that Pace, CAIR, the muslim’s and the cops will move quickly to settle these suits because these are law suits that they cannot possibley actually “win.” The adverse publicity gained by filing will expose the attempt to institute Sharia via the back door, and Thackeragency’s backlash could develop. The publicity will be so bad for Pace, that those who endow it with money or send their kids there might reconsider and that hurts them where it hurts most, the pocketbook. So, even if they can suppress Shmulevich’s law suits by court actin, their “win” would be pyrrhic indeed.

But I don’t think Shmulevich’s suits would be tossed out, and if they lose, CAIR (with it’s small membership) will be bankrupted unless they get a massive cash influx from the middle east. That would guarantee homeland security coming down on them with both fee, should that occur. Pace will take a major hit in the endowment fund, and the city will have to pay out big time.

Pace, the city, CAIR, all have “deep pockets.” Add into the equation that Pace, the city, and CAIR DID, in fact, violate Shmulevich’s rights, and that it would be fairly easy to prove it once depositions and discovery start, and Shmulevich will be in the cat-bird’s seat. As the criminal case would almost certainly be dismissed as being without merit anyway, Pace, CAIR, the muslims, and the city would be facing serious odd against prevailing, anyway.

If Bryan is correct and Pace did knuckle under to a “credible threat of violence” for not pursuing criminal charges, then Pace will have knuckled under to extortion — which would be a defacto admission that they did violate the civil rights of Shmulevich. Plus, Pace’s action just might cross the threshhold of being a CRIMINAL act (conspiracy to violate the civil rights of Shmulevich), not just a civil one. If that is the case, the people in Pace’s administration who made the decision could face jail time, along with the muslims on campus and CAIR, and police officials.

The federal government has already declared CAIR an unindicted co-conspirator and associate of HAMAS, a terrorist front. That’d be red meat to any jury hearing any case where CAIR was a defendant, if it can be shown that CAIR did actually intervene (as we all think they did).

Now, that (suing the pants of them) would be my preferred way of dealing with Pace, the muslims on campus, and CAIR.

But I had another, darker thought. You know, what goes around supposedly comes back around. And Pace, the muslims and CAIR are not immune to violence directed against them in retaliation (beyond a “backlash” that thackeragency described) to violence that they perpetrate. We’re a nation of 300 million people, 85 million of whom are also gun owners. All it takes is just one wacko/sicko to decide “enough is enough” and the end result could be a blood bath, forcing the federal government to react to muslims the way they did to the west coast Japanese after Pearl Harbor. God forbid it ever happening, though.

Let me be quite clear that I certainly do not advocate such behavior and I’d disavow it if it should happen. But any realist has to acknowledge that the 1 or 2 million muslims living in the United States would face long odds should the rest of the nation rise up against them and seriouly decide to put an end to their shenanigans. One of the things that everybody feared after the 9/11/01 attack was violence directed against the muslim community. It didn’t happen (fortunately!), but only because Americans were convinced that the attacks were orchestrated, directed, and launched by foreigners. If, on the other hand, a domestic group of muslims begin “jihad,” and succeed….well, Katy bar the door. The federal government would have to intern them for their own safety, the way they did the Japanese in early WWII. Or watch them be assaulted or worse.

Pray to God that it doesn’t happen….

If only he had called it art, the media and the school would have protected him…

…Tim Burton on July 28, 2007 at 3:53 PM

…the NEA would have funded him.

So, if someone throws a copy of the Koran across a room – is that desecration ? If they toss it in a garbage bin – is that desecration ? If you spill beer over an open Koran – is that desecration ? If a Pace student uses a piece of bacon in a copy of the Koran that he owns – is that desecration ?

London Boy on July 29, 2007 at 1:50 AM

If the Koranimals have their way all those things will be crimes. It will be a crime to simply not obey the Koran, that is the essence of Sharia.

If so… good job Muslims. You now sound like like an elderly woman. I’m impressed.

gekkobear on July 29, 2007 at 2:29 AM

ahhh… I see you finally get it…

Lets see… no sex outside of marriage…
Girls gotta cover up…
Sexual segregation…
No booze…
Gotta follow the rules or get whipped….
Gotta follow your elders….

Yep… sounds like my Grandma all right…

GRAFFITI.

Have you ever seen graffiti in a bathroom before? That’s a breakdown of social order right there requiring arrests of those contributing to the lessening of society.

Those of you with “piercings” not on your ears, expect to be next. And don’t get me started on the low-rider pants and tattoos.

Or something… I’m making this all up as I go.

And I sound about 80 here I think… was that their goal? To sound like someone’s great-grandma whining about society and how it was when she was a gel?

If so… good job Muslims. You now sound like like an elderly woman. I’m impressed.

Desecrating a Koran is now a Crime…it’s time fold, spindle and mutilate Koran’s in protest!

…desecration!!..? … holy book…?

Pretty strong words

Agreed, it seems to me that if the STATE determines that this is a ‘holy book’, then the separation of church and state ‘requirement’ has been violated.

The state should not be in the business of punishing based on religious overtones. That by definition would require the state to declare what is and is not ‘holy’.

If that is the case, wouldn’t Hindus be offended by McDonald’s? Aren’t those cattle ranchers in Texas going to be upset when they are hauled off to jail for a ‘hate crime’ against the Hindus? Georgie W. boy? what say ye Mr Texas?

God I need to be a lawyer. I’d make a fortune. . . I can’t sleep.

These jackbooted PC thugs running Pace, Columbia, Rhodes and many other universities have nothing against hate if it accomplishes their ends. How many times would they look the other way if a student desecrated a Bible? Or if a campus publication called for black-on-white racism?

Take a good guess… I thought so.

You can burn an American flag on campus no sweat, but if you burn a terrorist flag you can get your butt in serious trouble.

It sickens me to my stomach. When is this going to stop?

I left the UK to get away from the pathetic, liberal PC pandering to the Islamofascists and now it’s in the USA too…..beam me up, Scotty !!!

Pace classified the first desecration of the holy book as an act of vandalism, but university officials later reversed themselves and referred the incident to the New York Police Department’s hate crimes unit.

…desecration!!..? … holy book…?

Pretty strong words, I keep trying to picture these words being used if the same incident had involved a Bible. Don’t see it happening.