Leftists on the march against Fox
posted at 2:09 pm on July 28, 2007 by Bryan
They don’t believe in the First Amendment. Keep that in mind.
Liberal activists are stepping up their campaign against Fox News Channel by pressuring advertisers not to patronize the network.
MoveOn.org, the Campaign for America’s Future and liberal blogs like DailyKos.com are asking thousands of supporters to monitor who is advertising on the network, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp.
Once a database is gathered, an organized phone-calling campaign will begin, said Jim Gilliam, vice president of media strategy for Brave New Films, a company that has made anti-Fox videos.
The groups have successfully pressured Democratic presidential candidates not to appear at any debate sponsored by Fox, and are also trying to get Home Depot Inc. to stop advertising there.
At least 5,000 people across the U.S. have signed up to compile logs on who is running commercials on Fox, Gilliam said. The groups want to first concentrate on businesses running local ads, as opposed to national commercials.
“It’s a lot more effective for Sam’s Diner to get calls from 10 people in his town than going to the consumer complaint department of some pharmaceutical company,” Gilliam said.
Enviro-thuggery makes an appearance.
Groups like the Sierra Club have targeted Home Depot because they believe it’s inconsistent for the company to promote environmentally friendly products while advertising on a network that has questioned global warming.
Question their orthodoxy, and they’ll try to shut you down.
MoveOn.org is campaigning against Fox because it says the network characterizes itself as a fair news network when it consistently favors a conservative point of view, said Adam Green, the organization’s spokesman.
“We’re not trying to silence anybody,” Green said. “(Conservative radio talk show host) Rush Limbaugh has a right to be on the air — he admits his point of view. Fox doesn’t.”
Then what’s all the Fairness Doctrine pressure about, eh? Green’s a liar. Whether you’re talking about “campaign finance reform” or the Orwellian Fairness Doctrine or this effort to take Fox down, these leftists just don’t believe that you ought to be free to question them.
Blowback
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William Amos on July 28, 2007 at 2:12 PM
Will add KOS is cryoing because Jetblue pull on them. SO he thinks to pull the same on fox.
Umm sorry kossie but you donyt reach millions of people. Your sad little group might have sway with weak democrats but that is the extent of your “Empire”
William Amos on July 28, 2007 at 2:14 PM
Its their station…whoever pays for the time, gets the slot…but I’m sure the Kos crowd won’t make a point of that unless we’re talking about Mikey’s recent Sicko commercials.
Ryan Gandy on July 28, 2007 at 2:14 PM
For more on this see LGF.
Kos and MoveOn Harass Fox News.
Is Kos trying to pull a fast one by claiming they got Lowe’s to pull their ads or is it Lowe’s that wants Kos to think that?
lowandslow on July 28, 2007 at 2:17 PM
What these lefty morons don’t take the time to consider is that fearing debate on one’s point of view only shows how little your views stand up under scrutiny. The left’s intolerance for opposing views and fighting freedom of speech for everyone will doom them in the end.
katieanne on July 28, 2007 at 2:19 PM
I think trying to boycott Fox News is wrong, but how is this different from the boycott against JetBlue that MM was trying to start over YearlyKos?
Number 2 on July 28, 2007 at 2:20 PM
Because of the garbage that Kos places on his site. His anti american and anti jewish hate speech is like visiting white supremicist site
William Amos on July 28, 2007 at 2:26 PM
eating here are going to stop listening to Fox News.
Or stop eating at Sam’s diner, for that matter.
Let’s set up a poll with questions pertinent to this issue and send the results over to these targeted business’s.
Mcguyver on July 28, 2007 at 2:26 PM
I suggest we organize a counter, counter boycot and boycot any boycotters that respond to the boycott that was initiated by the boycotted group.
JayHaw Phrenzie on July 28, 2007 at 2:27 PM
Personally, I think there is a big difference between advertising and openly supporting something like the YearlyKos by there contributions.
lowandslow on July 28, 2007 at 2:29 PM
People get way more upset when you tell the truth about them than when you lie about them. That’s why the left wants truth to be a relative thing, so they can shift their ‘truth’ to be whatever suits their agenda.
infidel4life on July 28, 2007 at 2:31 PM
All Fox needs to do is advertise this… once word gets out as to WHY this is happening, and who is behind it, Americans will support Fox…
Romeo13 on July 28, 2007 at 2:32 PM
Hey that makes perfect sense. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. When someone from HA takes a look at the DailyKKK or any other of these hateful marxist/liberal/socialist/pro-regressive sites, please make a note of any advertisers and post it at HA so we can start the calls.
How’s that for a start?
GOD BLESS AMERICA!
paratisi
paratisi on July 28, 2007 at 2:35 PM
Conservatives should boycott all things lib
And
Libs should boycott all things conservative
Basically they can have their economy and we can have ours.
Of coarse libs would have to boycott all things that have been transported in trucks, trains, plain or ships as they use fossil fuels.
TheSitRep on July 28, 2007 at 2:42 PM
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/lowes_pulls_advertising_from_bill_oreillys_show/
Speakup on July 28, 2007 at 2:43 PM
I just fired off a letter to Lowes telling them that they are or my boycott list.
Muahhaahaaa!
TheSitRep on July 28, 2007 at 2:49 PM
They certainly have the right to organize such an effort. The counter is for the right to organize a group to make calls supporting fox. Then they cancel each other out and it is business as usual.
Bradky on July 28, 2007 at 2:51 PM
Lowes was already on my boycott list. I bought a tabletop gas grill there last weekend, brought it home, unboxed it, and found that it was a used and damaged item that they had reboxed and resold as new, at the same price as new. Thankfully I was able to contain my disgust and be civil with the poor girl at the returns counter.
infidel4life on July 28, 2007 at 2:57 PM
I am kinda curious and maybe this comes from being a new Republican and the like but
what makes this any different then O’Reilly going against JetBlue?
Defector01 on July 28, 2007 at 3:04 PM
Is Kos taking credit for something that has nothing to do with him regarding Lowes?
Ripclawe on July 28, 2007 at 3:04 PM
Did Lowe’s really withdraw ads from O’Reily? I can’t imagine why a hardware store would be concerned with liberals complaints or boycotts. After all, the liberal’s idea of “hammer” usually involves either being really stoned or some form of ghey sex act. Do liberals buy a lot of pastel paints? Maybe Lowe’s got excited about the sales prospects about liberals “building bridges” to our enemies?
Guardian on July 28, 2007 at 3:06 PM
That makes a lot more sense than the Kos effect.
Guardian on July 28, 2007 at 3:08 PM
Liberal “women” have been boycotting the makeup counter for decades.
OhEssYouCowboys on July 28, 2007 at 3:10 PM
Modern day Nazis, and Fascists, and we better start calling them what they are.
bmac on July 28, 2007 at 3:11 PM
LOL, pics of Hillary’s non-makeup phase are terrifying.
infidel4life on July 28, 2007 at 3:19 PM
Exactly. They represent the exact opposite of the values that this country was founded on.
WisCon on July 28, 2007 at 3:20 PM
Here’s a prediction – Moveon will conveniently forget about their boycott when it comes time for them and the Democrats to run negative advertising. Negative ads against the GOP only have so much impact when broadcast on MSNBC.
rw on July 28, 2007 at 3:20 PM
Wouldn’t it make more sense to avoid the name calling and show them there are many more people that don’t represent their sentiments by using the same tactics they are?
Name calling only empowers them.
Bradky on July 28, 2007 at 3:23 PM
Boycotts are such a joke against national chains. If these lefties ran the numbers or gave any real thought to this crap, they have to know they’ll never win. Even against smaller advertisers, boycotts are often fruitless. How many people, after all, are going to put their ideology head of convenience, prices, or just a good business to frequent?
People won’t boycott ‘Sam’s Diner’ because he advertises on Fox. If the food and service are good, ‘Sam’ will prosper. Besides, how many extreme liberals will eat at a diner in the first place?
Posturing, the whole thing. I tell you, some of these lefties must have to stay up real late to come up with nonsense like this. If there’s a need to counter them, someone farther up has the best idea: a counter-contact campaign supporting those who advertise on Fox.
God, these liberals are a strange breed. We really need to stop dancing to their tunes, and go on political offensives of our own.
Oh, yeah, we did that–with Shamnesty.
Who’s up for a Round Two?
Liam on July 28, 2007 at 3:27 PM
I really don’t see any problem with supporting the advertisers who sponsor television shows or networks that reflect my values, any more than I see a problem in patronizing those companies whose stocks I own.
At the same time, should a company sponsor a television program that is totally against my values (the short-lived “The Book of Daniel” comes to mind), I have no problem in writing to that company, and to the network, and telling the executives who made the decision to air or sponsor such filth, in no uncertain terms, that I will not be watching that network or doing business with that firm in the future.
If, in fact, Lowes has canceled their sponsorship of any network or program which I like, for any reason, I have the right (and perhaps duty) to contact that Lowes with the strongest possible message that I will not patronize the company again.
The major networks have descended to the bottom of the septic tank with both their programming and their news coverage. I can either ignore the problem in the hopes that it will go away (which is wishful thinking at best), or complain long and loud to the networks and the sponsors. Perhaps if I (and other conservatives) had started sooner, the major networks and the mainstream media wouldn’t be the mainstream of sludge that both, in fact, are today.
Jonas Parker on July 28, 2007 at 3:29 PM
Liberalism is a disease that spawns intolerance of opposing views to the point that they want them squashed and censored. In lib organizations that don’t have any real authority, this disease manifests itself in boycotts and demonstrations that a network like Fox should be silenced. When libs gain real power, the disease results in the closing of all opposing media and controlling the views of the citizens. See Josef Stalin and Hugo Chavez, for example.
Same thought process from a daily Kossack and Josef Stalin, just a difference in the impact the two can make on a society.
Mallard T. Drake on July 28, 2007 at 3:32 PM
Wouldn’t it make more sense to avoid the name calling and show them there are many more people that don’t represent their sentiments by using the same tactics they are?
Name calling only empowers them.
Bradky on July 28, 2007 at 3:23 PM
Maybe so, but people need to know these are Fascist tactics, and they already control the Democrats, if we don’t start calling a spade a spade, it may be too late.
bmac on July 28, 2007 at 3:32 PM
I can’t believe anybody goes to Lowe’s anymore. I used to go to both Home Depot and Lowe’s before i made a final decision on a purchase, but always ended buying from Home Depot. I don’t even bother going to Lowe’s anymore, the product selection is way below Home Depot.
forged rite on July 28, 2007 at 3:35 PM
Democrats in general are not fascists. It is disingenuous to let the action of 5000 people define several million people. Saying that the Klan’s actions represent the republicans at large is a similar claim without merit.
Name calling accomplishes very little. As I said the easy counter to their efforts is to show there are more people who will boycott if they DO pull advertising on fox.
Bradky on July 28, 2007 at 3:38 PM
The antics of the far left are a sign of desperation. They are a clever bunch, evil, but clever. I doubt their tactics will have any long-term effect. If the locals stop advertising on the most popular cable channel and move those dollars somewhere else, there will be a negative effect on sales. The smart ones will abandon the boycott.
Zorro on July 28, 2007 at 3:41 PM
Bradky on July 28, 2007 at 3:38 PM
I didn’t say the Democrats are fascists. But KOS and Moveon most definitely have a major say in what they do and could very well take over the party completely. KOS and Moveon are fascists, plain and simple, and they get a pass because nobody equates the Left with fascism.
bmac on July 28, 2007 at 3:50 PM
Today’s liberals will fight to the death for your right to agree with them.
But the moment you do your patriotic duty and dissent, whoo boy…
Good Lt on July 28, 2007 at 3:51 PM
umm, i think the majority of Lowe’s and Home Depot’s income is generated by General contractors who happen to be small business\self employed. these people generaly vote republican, so i can only assume that lowe’s has not thought this out to the end. they will only harm themself’s buy supporting the kos kids…
gberez on July 28, 2007 at 3:54 PM
O’Reilly showed jetblue what kind of postings went on a KOS. jetblue disassociated themselves with Kos after that.
Again its fair what kos is doing. Its also fair to call them on it.
Just receintly we had some liberal attack Michelle’s site as a “hate” site. Yet Kos continues to spew his crap day in and day out.
In the end I say lets go to war with them. Kos has much more to hide on this issue than we do.
William Amos on July 28, 2007 at 3:55 PM
I would submit that if the Kos and Moveon took over the party completely the millions and millions of democrats who are decent law-abiding patriotic citizens like you or I would either form a third party or switch altogether.
It’s only my opinion but I think if there were less vitriol(read name calling) from the right and more reasoned persuasion and discourse there would be more “Reagan Democrats” siding with the right.
I think that some conservatives are viewed in exactly the same light by the liberals as you described it. It was after all some rather loud voices on the right that started throwing around the word traitor rather freely as an adjective when referring to democrats.
Bradky on July 28, 2007 at 4:00 PM
Political groups funded by George Soros continue their attempts to kick out the conservative competition in the media. What a shock.
thesheesh on July 28, 2007 at 4:01 PM
Net result of this little stunt: nothing. These guys are free to boycott whoever, and pretty much they will be ignored. Businesses that cater specifically to that crowd probably already don’t advertise on Fox News, so big whup.
meep on July 28, 2007 at 4:03 PM
Take a look who owns and runs MoveOn.org and many of the other left wing organizations. Same person who was one of the major venture capitalists behind jetBlue and who to this day owns 3 members of the board of jetBlue.
This isn’t a conspiracy theory. Soros and Peter Lewis fund a huge amount of these organizations both directly and indirectly. You think it’s a coincidence that MoveOn.org is a primary sponsor of YearlyKos?
If you think all that money hasn’t had an effect guess what meeting is taking place this weekend in Nashville? The Democratic Leadership Council, the so called Democratic centerist organization that launced Bill Clinton. Guess which presidential candidates are attending? None.
But they are all going to YearlyKos. Follow the money and you will see who really is driving the Democratic agenda. And you can thank McCain/Feingold and those who supported it for making it all possible.
JackStraw on July 28, 2007 at 4:05 PM
Tell ya what I’m gonna do . I got 5000 brown shirts here I’ll let you have at half price.
sonnyspats1 on July 28, 2007 at 4:09 PM
The difference between this and JetBlue, would be the content of the source. The complaint about JB wasn’t that it sponsored a Liberal site. Itwas that DKos is known for content such as saying “better luck next time” when talking about the attempt assassination of a sitting VP.
Fox News doesn’t have inappropriate content, it’s just that it’s not presented in the bias Kos wants.
amerpundit on July 28, 2007 at 4:09 PM
Wow, Kos is so horribly partisan and stupid he doesn’t even realize he’s an irrelevant douchebag.
Do we still have that “screw them” clip from the Kos King himself? All Fox has to do is post up that clip in an ad. “Morkos Moulitsas runs a far-left hate site. He’s attepting to attack Fox News by threatening our advertisers. This is what Kos had to say when asked about contracters being killed in Iraq: (show clip). Don’t be intimidated by this hateful maniac. When he calls, speak in a language he understands. (show “Screw them” line 3 times).”
It practically writes itself.
BKennedy on July 28, 2007 at 4:11 PM
Well, we will now have a list of who supports FoxNews, so we can now know who to buy from. We should be thanking them for doing all the work for us.
WoosterOh on July 28, 2007 at 4:14 PM
BKennedy – Here you go: Markos “Screw Them” Moulitsas
Michael in MI on July 28, 2007 at 4:15 PM
More grassroots fascism from the left. Disgusting.
RightOFLeft on July 28, 2007 at 4:18 PM
Well said.
Mallard T. Drake on July 28, 2007 at 4:21 PM
Yes, especially considering that it’s the Democrats who actually have a former Klansman as one of their own high-ranking party members, there’s more merit in claiming his actions represent the Democrats at large.
Parley on July 28, 2007 at 4:25 PM
All Fox needs to do is advertise this… once word gets out as to WHY this is happening, and who is behind it, Americans will support Fox…
Romeo13 on July 28, 2007 at 2:32 PM
The left is going for a twofer here. Attacking grass roots businesses and shutting down Fox News. It’s still a free market and a free country. I am confident these factors will prevail. Buy American. Made in the USA with Pride!
sonnyspats1 on July 28, 2007 at 4:26 PM
Well I guess I will start telling the advertisers
“I saw your add on Fox.”
PaKeystoner on July 28, 2007 at 4:27 PM
Will they go after Michael Moore? I’m getting real sick, of that Sicko ad every hour on FOX. Or is he off-limits?
PowWow on July 28, 2007 at 4:27 PM
Adam Green’s statement is the height of idiocy, but many here seem to be buying into some of his assumptions. Fox News isn’t “on the air,” it’s through the cable and over private satellite. So the Fairness Doctrine doesn’t apply. Conservatives should welcome the Fairness Doctrine, at least on television. Although it goes against the spirit of conservatism (sort of – the broadcast airwaves are public are thus subject to some regulation), on television, giving people the opportunity to oppose the viewpoint of a given show should be a boon to people opposed to the non-conservative points of view espoused on the vast majority of broadcast shows.
Anyway, trying to influence others through actions in the marketplace, rather than through the courts or regulators, is a very conservative thing to do. Shouldn’t we be saying, “Bring it on!”?
Also, if “fair and balanced” Fox not admitting its viewpoint means that they don’t have a right to be on the air, does that mean conservatives should be going tit-for-tat with “objective” CBS?
calbear on July 28, 2007 at 4:44 PM
First of all, advertisers will go WHERE THE VIEWERS ARE! This campaign will fail.
Secondly, I wonder if they’ll be blasting CNN and Michael Moore’s “Sicko”, both of which advertise on Fox News. And HeadOn? You’re going down biatch! We better not catch you applying anything to your forehead on that evil conservative network again.
RightWinged on July 28, 2007 at 5:05 PM
Oh sure. They can march against FoxNews. That’s easy.
But will they talk about turtle RIGHTS? Nooooo.
NO ONE will speak-up for turtle RIGHTS, now will they?
CyberCipher on July 28, 2007 at 5:06 PM
You missed the point entirely.
Bradky on July 28, 2007 at 5:41 PM
?
Who will save the Weee Tuurrttllleeess !
Save me from the Weeee Turtles !
William Amos on July 28, 2007 at 5:59 PM
Boycotts are usually all bark and no bite. They have a right to boycott even if it’s for a very stupid reason.
SouthernGent on July 28, 2007 at 6:02 PM
Your comment implied that the KKK was associated with the Republican Party, when in fact, it’s always been associated with the Democrat party. A few quotes from the KKK wiki page -
Here’s the page. I know you were just drawing an anology, but still , the implication was there.
forged rite on July 28, 2007 at 6:29 PM
At least 5,000 people across the U.S. have signed up to compile logs on who is running commercials on Fox, Gilliam said. The groups want to first concentrate on businesses running local ads, as opposed to national commercials.
“It’s a lot more effective for Sam’s Diner to get calls from 10 people in his town than going to the consumer complaint department of some pharmaceutical company,” Gilliam said.
This is similar to what John Kerry’s campaign and the Dem Party did to Sinclair when they wanted to run “Stolen Valor” – they went after local advertisers, and as I recall they succeeded in the Portland, Maine market. That tactic can actually bankrupt a local company, if successful – not to mention what it can do for a national advertiser.
Deja Vu from Wiki
Reacting to reports that Sinclair was to air Stolen Honor shortly before the election, members of the United States Congress asked the FCC to consider the legality of the planned broadcast. The Democratic National Committee filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission. As this controversy made the news, with a number of Sinclair advertisers pulling their ads and Sinclair stock dropping 17% in eleven days
Buy Danish on July 28, 2007 at 7:04 PM
Every day it looks more and more we will need to enact the purpose of the 2nd Amendment to protect the guarantees of the 1st Amendment and the other 24 included in the US Constitution (I included the 1st & 2nd in the count for all 26). Depending on how the elections go in 2008 we could be looking at another 1860 moment in American history.
KC-135A on July 28, 2007 at 7:04 PM
More past history on largely successful Dem tactics targeting Sinclair Broadcasting and local advertisers from Democrat Underground
Buy Danish on July 28, 2007 at 7:14 PM
KC, since secession didn’t seem to work out way back when, can we buy arms and force certain states from the Union? I’m all for preserving this nation, but if folks want to go batshit insane, they are not really serving the interests of the Union.
American_Jihadist on July 28, 2007 at 7:18 PM
It is way past time for Republicans, businesses like WalMart, Fox News and others, to start service announcements or commercials or some kind of serious advertising campaign to educate and remind the public as to what basic freedoms and liberty are. This is way past due. The people of this country are assaulted each and every day through movies, TV, music, school teachers and college professors as well as the news and advertising,, as to how evil, dangerous and greedy our nation is. The assault on Fox News is an assault on the freedom of speech as well as private property. The assault on WalMart is little different. The core principles that our founders held have been ignored in our schools and mocked in our colleges. Many people have not even heard them, though they are just as powerful today, and able to be understood just as easily if explained in simple terms. The foundations need to be rebuilt. WalMart would do more to protect and expand their business by beginning a creative, clever and fresh ad campaign to educate and remind the public about simple things like the freedom to shop where one wants and the freedom to give the customer what they demand.
JellyToast on July 28, 2007 at 7:44 PM
I’ve said this before, and I’ll say it again.
For the extreme left:
Dissent they agree with = the highest form of patriotism.
Dissent they don’t agree with = hate speech
Bigfoot on July 28, 2007 at 8:28 PM
Dang! I was just about to advertise on FOX News with my new company. Berets and Noserings Are Us.
oakpack on July 28, 2007 at 8:39 PM
If you knew I was drawing an analogy why the need to get defensive about it?
The original comment by me said specifically
Bradky on July 28, 2007 at 8:48 PM
So revolution is in order if the elections don’t go as desired? Surely you jest.
Bradky on July 28, 2007 at 8:52 PM
Your analogy still doesn’t wash Bradky.
RightWinged on July 28, 2007 at 9:50 PM
The “Left” is so far left in this country, that what used to be considered by most to be the middle is considered far right by them. The TRUE political middle in this country is actually anything that strictly aligns with and adheres to the Constitution. The real far right is where you find anarchy, radical theocracy, rampant bigotry, caste society, vigilantism, and the like.
All levels of our government have sufficient power to keep far right proclivities in check, but We the People have far too few and mostly weak choices with our sources of power to keep leftist hegemony(overgrown, intrusive government) at bay until, of course, those in that government get so far out of line that our one definitive power – revolution – becomes viable or necessary.
Our voices have been targeted and hit squarely by such as the McCain-Feingold atrocity; all but destroying the Freedom of Speech when it is…Heh!… or rather WAS… most effective; specifically, right before an election. The power necessary to revolt is under attack as much if not more than our Freedom of Speech. Y’all better be as adamant of the Second Amendment protected right as you are of the First Amendment protected freedoms and rights. Unless, of course, you like being a child of the state, or one of its helots…
Woody
Be careful who you choose to stand behind and support. If you are unwilling to take care of yourself, you must take whatever care that comes along. I’ve yet to see a flock of sheep, no matter how well cared for and tended, that doesn’t get fleeced from time to time and eventually end up on the dinner table. Not many sheep die a natural death.
woodcdi on July 28, 2007 at 9:57 PM
Oh it washes just fine.
In your case it rubs a sore spot you don’t like to acknowledge. But I’ve schooled you on that enough and won’t get caught up in an exchange of diatribes from you.
Find someone else to throw your manifestos at.
Bradky on July 28, 2007 at 10:21 PM
I continue to marvel over the failed business model that is MSM TV and news print. As two decades of national elections have attested, the American population is clearly split approximately 50/50 liberal/conservative. In what other commercial enterprise would owners intentionally exclude 50% of their potential customers? Fox News isn’t perfect, but I believe it makes a much better effort than any other network to present “fair & balanced” reportage.
Fox’s audience is solid, secure and assured. Let the self-deluded Kos creeps, MoveOn, etc. do their thing. Their impotence will once again be revealed by real-world results (of course their failed efforts will (again) go unreported by any TV network other than Fox).
BJ Phisch on July 28, 2007 at 10:30 PM
Meanwhile, my effort to induce sponsors to boycott Fox News until they have Julie Banderas do newscasts in a bikini has not born fruit.
radjah shelduck on July 28, 2007 at 10:38 PM
Lol, you’ve schooled me? You’re so pathetic I can’t differentiate you from the other libs around here. You get caught up in lying or pretending you know something about statistics and making fools of yourselves, or diverting every issue at every chance you get. I can’t remember which of these tools are your favorite, but I want to say you’re the bonehead who tried to come up with some statistics based on the assumption that the country is 50/50 Republican/Democrat.
That said, I wasn’t even in your discussion, but I did happen to read what forged rite said in response to your stupid comment:
You completely ignored forged rite’s point, that if the institution that is the KKK were to associate with one party, it wouldn’t be the Republicans dude. That is why your analogy doesn’t wash.
You can say “don’t let the actions of 5000 people speak for all Democrats, the same way we don’t let the actions of Ron Paulites speak for all Republicans”, or something else.. but the KKK example is simply flawed, and you repasting it doesn’t change that.
RightWinged on July 28, 2007 at 11:02 PM
Yawn… did you say something? Embrace your bias and quit stalking me.
Bradky on July 28, 2007 at 11:08 PM
Stalinists. Why are we supposed to respect Stalinists?
petefrt on July 28, 2007 at 11:46 PM
30 or 40 years of a leftist liberal biased media monopoly and all they can claim is 50% of the electorate? That doesn’t bode well for the left in this country with the emergence of balanced news(Fox) and conservative biased talk radio and not less than half of the Internet being right-leaning.
I think the left is getting desperate. They are exposed. The only thing that can save them is to silence the competition. Be on the lookout for all manner of derision of conservatives, laws abridging speech(except their speech), infringements on our rights, you name it. It’ll all be done under the guise of getting the money out of politics, or of fighting crime and terrorism.
Just keep the following in mind:
1) Money does not cause corruption. The corrupt are corrupt to begin with, and money is nothing but a tool or an end to the corrupt.
2) “Gun Control” is actually law-abiding-citizen control, not a means to keep arms out of the hands of criminals. That’s merely the “justification”.
3) The “Fairness Doctrine” is nothing more than censorship.
4) “Political Correctness” is alteration of the language to circumvent the strict scrutiny of the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and common sense.
5) Malapropism runs rampant, destroying venerated and time-honored institutions. One such example is “insurgents”, “guerrillas”, and “rebels” being called “Militia”.
The leftist liberals are not that dumb, folks. They think we are, though. They have chosen guile over honor, pretense over veracity, and will attempt to goad you into their bidding because they themselves lack altruism – all the while feigning only they have honor, veracity, and altruism. Want proof? Just look at Al Gore’s “Carbon Footprint”. Look at Rosie O’Donald’s armed body guards. Listen to Harry Reid, or Nancy Pelosi speak for two minuets.
Have a good day.
Woody
woodcdi on July 29, 2007 at 1:13 AM
Get a new line dude… “My bias”? You always act like I’m pretending I don’t have a conservative bias… It’s clear you’ve only recently learned that word and over-use it (and incorrectly). I can’t count how many times you’ve tossed that line out there (because you have NOTHING to say, so you divert… again proving my point). Yeah, good thing I’m hiding my bias behind such a moderate name…. RightWinged!
RightWinged on July 29, 2007 at 2:16 AM
No one watching (well at least not the men) would hear a word she said. Fox really should put out a swimsuit calendar: “The Babes of Fox News”
infidel4life on July 29, 2007 at 3:30 AM
We should just send the FOX advertisers a copy of the “Screw them” comment made by the Daily Kos founder and ask do they really want to cave in to the demands of a jerk like that.
mlong on July 29, 2007 at 4:09 AM
Look Sugar Bear, embrace your bias is about your obsessive need to make snarky comments about ANY issue regarding blacks. “Uh..uh what about Al Sharpton…I mean what about Jesse Jackson….Bill Cosby said… I’m not prejudiced…Bob Byrd…Not me”
And all this time I thought you were at least quick enough to get that. I’ll make sure to dumb it down next time.
Bradky on July 29, 2007 at 8:07 AM
They certainly have the right to organize such an effort. The counter is for the right to organize a group to make calls supporting fox. Then they cancel each other out and it is business as usual.
Bradky on July 28, 2007 at 2:51 PM
Yeah, all we need is George Soros and we’re set to go.
Seriously though, national advertisers should be able to figure out when they are being spammed by activists. And I agree with the idea that WalMart (and others) should run an ad campaign to counter these Leftist (who probably don’t spend money with these advertisers anyway).
Buy Danish on July 29, 2007 at 8:30 AM
What the stupid looney leftists are too dumb to get is that we, too, can use the same tactics. I will never in my life purchase another General Electric product as they own the liberalistic NBC and will do nothing about their unbalanced news reporting. So you see, we can all play that game. As for Fox, it is the only place on television to get my news.
lynnv on July 29, 2007 at 8:37 AM
So let me get this straight… They are doing to FOX what others did to the Dixie Chicks, something which the Kos crowd lamented.
Hypocrisy is still what runs the Left these days, I guess.
Seixon on July 29, 2007 at 8:38 AM
I suppose all is fair in love and ideological warfare, but I rather don’t like political groups dictating what is and is not acceptable. I’d rather argue substantively rather than dirtily.
Sadly, even after my turn to the dark side (becoming Republican) I still feel that it is the right that is more likely to set some ridiculous boundary about what is and is not appropriate to say; for instance, the proposed Flag Burning Amendment, where we come off like a bunch of loser muslims who just had their prophet insulted. We will look like a bunch of fools if after voting on a flag burning amendment we turn around and denounce the fairness doctrine. Why should anyone listen?
thuja on July 29, 2007 at 8:40 AM
Wow, I always preferred Lowes to Home Depot because the service and layout of the store was better. (around here anyway) But if Lowes did pull ads from O’Reilly, and it pisses off the Sierra club, I guess I will go back to Home Depot from now on.
Where do I sign up to support this?
conservnut on July 29, 2007 at 9:21 AM
So let me get this straight… They are doing to FOX what others did to the Dixie Chicks, something which the Kos crowd lamented.
Hypocrisy is still what runs the Left these days, I guess.
Seixon on July 29, 2007 at 8:38 AM
Seixon,
What happened with the Dixie Chicks was spontaneous combustion. There was no organized, financed effort to censor them – it began with Country music fans calling the stations and telling them they didn’t want to hear from the Chicks, and took off from there.
Buy Danish on July 29, 2007 at 9:47 AM
Gee thats funny because I was thinking about starting a calling campaign against the left leaning MSM. This is not about FOX News. It is more about attacking capitalism and bringing down the economy. One thing Move On isn’t counting on is push back from the business comminity. There will be push back. Soros is not dealing with a bunch of corporate cowards when you attack small business. These are innovative creative people who are interdependant on each other for their survival. They are in the real world creating tangeble goods and services, unlike the keyboard jockeys who are attempting this coup. This bogus campaign can not and will not prevail. The sword of dissent cuts both ways.
sonnyspats1 on July 29, 2007 at 10:17 AM
I’d modify that just a bit: It’s not so much that they don’t like being questiond as much as they can’t stand “diversity” when it extends to anything beyond skin color, gender or sexual preference.
The distinction between the self-styled “liberal” mind and that of the conservative is on stark display: When confronted with what they see as pervasive liberal bias in the major broadcast and print media, conservatives walk away and form their own alternative information channels: AM talk radio, FOX News, conservative blogs.
When liberals see media they perceive as having a conservative bias, they try to silence it.
It’s not so much that they object to conservatives having access to “biased” media of their own; what they don’t like is that there is any conservative means of media expression at all.
A good definition of hypocrisy isn’t so much saying one thing and doing another (which may reflect weakness as opposed to cynicism), as much as taking a position or making a statement without believing in it.
Liberals often react to conservative complaints about media bias with, “Why don’t you change the channel?” But when conservatives create a new channel and turn to it, liberals confronted with an information source they disagree with don’t “change the channel” but react with, “Hey, you can’t do that! You need to be silenced!” That’s hypocrisy.
Scratch a liberal, and you’ll find a totalitarian underneath.
Spurius Ligustinus on July 29, 2007 at 10:46 AM
Bradky, how do you spell T-R-O-L-L?
Jonas Parker on July 29, 2007 at 11:32 AM
So as I suspected, you’re using the term incorrectly… You should be saying “prejudice” not “bias” genius… but either way, you’re making (as liberals, especially you, love to do) a strawman arguments. You’re putting words in my mouth because (as usual, and as predicted) you can’t defend your own claims and analogies. YOU made the stupid analogy that forged rite busted you on, you tried to brush it off so I spelled it out for you, and you have to turn it in to the childish thing you have because you have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to add and no way to defend or support your initial statement… if you did, you’d have stated it and we’d have moved on.
RightWinged on July 29, 2007 at 3:13 PM
Suppressing free speech is a standard tactic of the Left and deeply un-American. They tried to shut down Rush Limbaugh by harassing his advertisers. I’ve seen the lefty protestors attack counter-protestors at rallies here in DC. They protested Fox News during the Republican convention in New York.
These are brownshirt tactics which deserve no respect and put to the lie the Left’s professed love for the Bill of Rights. They want a monopoly on speech in the public forum. Just like Stalin and Mao.
Tantor on July 29, 2007 at 7:09 PM