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Open Thread: Michelle hosts The Factor Videos added

posted at 9:25 pm on July 27, 2007 by Bryan
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Lots of good topics tonight. Have at it. Video highlights later.

Update: Here’s the Scott Beauchamp segment.

Update: And here’s the highlight reel from the rest of the show. It’s not often that you see a host turn the tables on PETA, as Michelle did tonight.


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In attempting to state her own personal neutrality with regards to the Mike Vick dog abuse story MM actually said , “Look, I don’t have a dog in this fight.” I love ya Malkin, but that was not a good move.

D0WNT0WN on July 27, 2007 at 8:20 PM

… I love ya Malkin, but that was not a good move.

D0WNT0WN on July 27, 2007 at 8:20 PM

I’ve said worse — right here on HotAir in fact. So I forgive her. (But then, I forgive Annie when she says things that she shouldn’t, too.)

CyberCipher on July 27, 2007 at 8:26 PM

Michelle’s great on the show but, I dont think that the NFL wasn’t taking this lightly before groups like PETA were hammering them.

ajmontana on July 27, 2007 at 8:36 PM

Michelle Rules:
The segment about the Scott Thomas debacle just ended. Michelle did a most excellent job of staying out of the dirt and out of the details, focusing on the intent of the story.

The leave behind for the casual listener is that TNR had bad motives and knowingly published a hit piece. Much better than buying into the assumption that the troops are monsters but the details were wrong.

Well done.

TunaTalon on July 27, 2007 at 8:38 PM

Michelle needs her own show on FOX. I know it’s been said before…she should combine her blog with the broadcast in whatever format works for her, and include a Vent segment from HA. And buy Allah an Iphone.

Dork B. on July 27, 2007 at 8:48 PM

I was really praying for a shredder during the Loha_ story.

On-my-soap-box on July 27, 2007 at 8:54 PM

And buy Allah an Iphone.

Will AP try to replicate the “Iphone in the blender” test? If so, will it be shown in a future Vent?

Bigfoot on July 27, 2007 at 8:54 PM

MM did great, no surprise there.

Jeff guy looked like a young Bill O

The dancing tot is on now.

Dersu on July 27, 2007 at 8:56 PM

“By all accounts she was drunk as a skunk.”

(Did you hear the one about the blind skunk who fell in love with a fart?)

Michelle just keeps getting better and better. She’s ready whenever Fox is.

RedWinged Blackbird on July 27, 2007 at 8:56 PM

Michelle just keeps getting better and better. She’s ready whenever Fox is.

Well, FOX is holding back because, as you know, her site is a “hate site”.

/sarc off

On-my-soap-box on July 27, 2007 at 8:59 PM

How much control does Michelle have over content?

PBoilermaker on July 27, 2007 at 9:00 PM

“Yes, there will be a Lindsay Lohan segment. Don’t blame me. You can always use it to take a bathroom break.”

Whoa, she’s not that hot.

Well, not Lindsay anyway.

Christoph on July 27, 2007 at 9:00 PM

Hey, the way she signed off was just awesome! Tilt of head was just the bomb!

On-my-soap-box on July 27, 2007 at 9:00 PM

Not too volatile tonight, but good nonetheless. Thankfully, the show was 100% Geraldo-free.

PBoilermaker on July 27, 2007 at 9:02 PM

Too many segments, they need to turn MM loose on just
one or two subjects.

She could certainly get any issue in pespective with a little more time, and everyone would understand it then.

Good close MM

“We’re looking after you.”

Dersu on July 27, 2007 at 9:04 PM

Michelle needs her own show. Guess we can call it “Michelle’s Musings”

Need to go from hot air to live on the air.

William Amos on July 27, 2007 at 9:18 PM

I think we call it, “Hot Michelle on the Air“.

Wow… was that the plan all along? Brilliant!

Christoph on July 27, 2007 at 9:22 PM

D0WNT0WN – “In attempting to state her own personal neutrality with regards to the Mike Vick dog abuse story MM actually said , “Look, I don’t have a dog in this fight.””

You have got to be kidding!

MB4 on July 27, 2007 at 9:25 PM

Michelle was awesome as usual.

xplodeit on July 27, 2007 at 9:25 PM

I thoroughly enjoyed the show.

realVerse on July 27, 2007 at 9:30 PM

I’m just happy she got the Beauchamp story out there.

Bad Candy on July 27, 2007 at 9:38 PM

Off topic for this open thread?

Muslim nurse found shot – failed to show at an Atlanta mosque.

I haven’t seen this posted anyplace. I bet this lady knew a few doctors.

faraway on July 27, 2007 at 10:08 PM

The Malkin Factor is on tonight again. Excellent.

Egfrow on July 27, 2007 at 10:16 PM

I’m really glad to see that coverage in the MSM and with Johannes and Emanuel getting some national exposure, no less. Great work by Michelle.

Dusty on July 27, 2007 at 11:00 PM

I like Michelle on the Factor, but I have to say that it was interesting to hear her say, “I don’t have a dog in this fight” while speaking about the Vick case. Not good or bad, but interesting.

progressoverpeace on July 27, 2007 at 11:14 PM

Of course the moonbats on the youtube site of this vid have already raised the level of debate

Kapan60

Since when do we rely on “bloggers” to determine the psychological makeup of a military soldier? These are reputable resources for the news media to turn to?

I find it odd Fox News considers them reputable when we have Billo trying to convince everyone and everybody that the Daily Kos is the new Nazi regime in America.

Why can’t they just go after the military for refusing to pay up on soldier’s medical benefits? That would actually do something for our troops.

William Amos on July 27, 2007 at 11:15 PM

Oops. Already said on the first post. Face! How embarrassing. I should have read the posts … and watched the 8:00 show.

progressoverpeace on July 27, 2007 at 11:17 PM

So how about micheal Vick ?

William Amos on July 27, 2007 at 11:35 PM

Bravo! Bravo!!

As I mentioned on MM.com, these past few 8pm hours on Friday Nights have become “patio events”, the grill going full bore, favorite wine(s), rain or shine! I hope this will be a permanent feature on the Factor just like Friday night’s Special Report with someone sitting in for Brit…

Zorro on July 27, 2007 at 11:36 PM

D0WNT0WN – “In attempting to state her own personal neutrality with regards to the Mike Vick dog abuse story MM actually said , “Look, I don’t have a dog in this fight.””

You have got to be kidding!

MB4 on July 27, 2007 at 9:25 PM

THIS is the problem today and why the Liberals are able to hijack discourse so easily… An effective pun, such as that, is a sign of an excellent sense of humor and extraordinary intelligence. I’m an avid animal lover (especially dogs and horses) and enjoyed the remark, THOROUGHLY.

Rugged Individual on July 27, 2007 at 11:36 PM

You know, Michelle, I adore you. I have to disagree with your approach to the Mike Vick story. While I despise all things PETA, the dog fighting thing is truly disgusting and Vick deserves the censure he’s getting for it.

thedecider on July 27, 2007 at 11:57 PM

Great job as always Michelle.

Beauchump picture-does he look like Chad Lowe, or is that just me? I just noticed that.

Peta we kill animals because there’s too many. Good thing they don’t care about the human population

PowWow on July 27, 2007 at 11:59 PM

It seems to me that MM comes across with too much smirky contempt on the factor. She really does us a disservice when she lets her passion overwhelm her craftsmanship.

unamused on July 28, 2007 at 12:01 AM

It seems to me that MM comes across with too much smirky contempt on the factor. She really does us a disservice when she lets her passion overwhelm her craftsmanship.

unamused on July 28, 2007 at 12:01 AM

As Bill O’R. is fond of pointing out, much of the host’s personality tends to be heavily colored by the format. You simply must get a guest to finish up, for example, by the end of their scheduled segment(s), because there is a finite, yet defined amount of material to cover in a limited amount of time. It’s not because the host is necessarily rude or uncouth; they simply tend to come across that way in the course of doing their job.

That having been said, I really believe that as Michelle gets more experience with this format, she will do beter. She doesn’t ever claim for a split-second to be partial, and that is exactly what I like about seeing her on such a show.

gryphon202 on July 28, 2007 at 12:41 AM

I always love seeing Michelle and hearing her views. It would be nice to get more advance notice of her air time so I can record it if I am not at home.

omegaram on July 28, 2007 at 12:46 AM

How is Beauchamp pronounced? I mean besides a$$hole. I was under the impression it was pronounced Beechum.

Bill C on July 28, 2007 at 12:55 AM

Once again I watched the show with Michelle and again I am confused. What exactly is the Scott Thomas hub bub. Is what he reported false? Is he just making this up? If so, and I know this may be very difficult, what evidence exist it is not true. I have seen a series of personal attacks on both Scott and TNR but is there evidence of falsehood. I’m not judging or taking any position, I just don’t understand. Someone please explain this to me like I am a sixth grader.

scooter on July 28, 2007 at 1:13 AM

Here is the proper way to pronounce his complete name Scott (MY) Thomas (A$$) Beauchamp (Stockade, altnate interpretation is Leavenworth).

Helloyawl on July 28, 2007 at 1:22 AM

How is Beauchamp pronounced?

Ever since I saw his ‘before deployment’ pictures wearing those nancy boy stupid thick frame glasses I’ve been pronouncing it ‘boy chump’. Those glasses work ok for women but men…well, let’s just say the statement you’re making is ‘I’m a giant a**clown.’

austinnelly on July 28, 2007 at 1:27 AM

Of course we could watch Olberjackass to see a TRUE professional would work.

I dont think we would see a smirk more like a snear and looking down his nose at all the unwashed peasants

William Amos on July 28, 2007 at 1:50 AM

thedecider – “You know, Michelle, I adore you. I have to disagree with your approach to the Mike Vick story. While I despise all things PETA, the dog fighting thing is truly disgusting and Vick deserves the censure he’s getting for it.”

You are far more charitable than I am.

I think he deserves a BeeHive round at about 20 paces.

Or maybe he could “do lunch” with some Lions at the zoo.

Tough choice.

MB4 on July 28, 2007 at 2:28 AM

Loved the Scott Beauchamp segment MM always prepared and understands the topic. Always for the truth.

She has got to get her own show.

BobK on July 28, 2007 at 6:47 AM

How is Beauchamp pronounced? I mean besides a$$hole. I was under the impression it was pronounced Beechum.

Bill C on July 28, 2007 at 12:55 AM

In Louisiana it would most likely be pronounced;BOshamp.
With a not quite silent ‘P’, and an enunciation on the ‘a’ that I’ve yet to see represented among pronounciation symbols.

It’s my suspicion that Mr. Beauchamp probably changes pronounciation according to what he believes his audience wants to hear.
KindaJust like his blogging.

soundingboard on July 28, 2007 at 8:06 AM

The problem with criticising PETA’s action is that by doing so MM de facto defends scum like Vicks. Call it trial by media if you like, but come on, who can seriously believe Vicks’ BS about not knowing anything about the dog-fighting at his home?

Aylios on July 28, 2007 at 9:27 AM

Bravo, MM. A great distillation of TNR’s messy diaper; PETAs still a useful idiot, and no one cares about celeb-sluts.

Give this woman her own show!

scooter on July 28, 2007 at 1:13 AM

An excellent analysis can be found here.

locomotivebreath1901 on July 28, 2007 at 9:48 AM

What exactly is the Scott Thomas hub bub. Is what he reported false? Is he just making this up? If so, and I know this may be very difficult, what evidence exist it is not true. I have seen a series of personal attacks on both Scott and TNR but is there evidence of falsehood. I’m not judging or taking any position, I just don’t understand. Someone please explain this to me like I am a sixth grader.
scooter on July 28, 2007 at 1:13 AM

Yes scooter, what Scott Thomas reported was false. Yes he did make up the defaming parts and added them to real situations. There is extensive evidence that his stories were false. Please search this site for the many details and how the diligence of the HA community dug up the facts.

In the six minute segment last night Michelle did exactly the right thing focusing on the facts that the stories were false, who was responsible, and what bias influenced the publication. Pretty impressive effort since her time was so short and the intended audience needs a sixth grade level presentation.

Had Michelle focused on minutiae (such as Humvees having run flat tires) the audience would have gone away with the understanding that American troops may be some kind of monsters, but the details were in dispute. She did good. The focus was left squarely on the guilty party.

For what it’s worth, TNR tried hard to focus the debate on the details and force the offended party to prove a negative.

TunaTalon on July 28, 2007 at 9:58 AM

locomotivebreath1901 on July 28, 2007 at 9:48 AM

Sorry Loco I didn’t mean to ignore your link, I was composing while you were commenting. From now on I will refresh just before submitting.

scooter, Just click on locomotivebreath1901’s link. Much closer to a sixth grade level direction.

TunaTalon on July 28, 2007 at 10:06 AM

While it could have been a slip, Michelle is smart enough to have intended “no dog in this fight” to be a witty thow-off.

I agree, however, that choosing to attack PETA came off as favoring and defending Vick, even though I think a longer segment would have shown Michelle to be more balanced.

G. Charles on July 28, 2007 at 10:09 AM

I like Michelle on the Factor, but I have to say that it was interesting to hear her say, “I don’t have a dog in this fight” while speaking about the Vick case. Not good or bad, but interesting.

I thought it was subtle yet hilarious. And it’s nice to see PETA get a dose of what for on their own hypocritical actions.

Pablo on July 28, 2007 at 10:34 AM

I don’t mind Michelle taking an opportunity to attack PETA. I despise what Vick was done, but that certainly doesn’t make me a friend of the PETA nuts, and it’s uncomfortable to think they’ve taken the forefront in a fight that reasonable people can wage.

What I suspect Michelle might be missing in the Vick story, however, is that the real story isn’t dogs–it’s the ongoing infiltration of the NFL by practitioners of the gangster “thug life.” Michael Vick might not be a rap star or a gang member, but he’s an active part of the same degenerate counter-culture that spawns both.

I don’t think any of us want an antisocial character like that in a position that aspiring young athletes (or anyone else) will admire.

Blacklake on July 28, 2007 at 11:31 AM

Michelle is great in an interview format. She can get people to talk by turning on the charm, then seamlessly shift gears into pointed attack mode to confront intellectual song-and-dance artists. This combination makes her excellent as a FOX News contributor, and it shone in both videos.

At FNC, I think there’s already an anchor chair pulled out for Michelle; she just won’t sit down.

There must be a nice sense of satisfaction that comes from knowing that the course she has chosen – all those long hours, and putting up with a lot of nonsense as well as verbal/written abuse – has earned her two options, the choice being which is the better one –

Continue with a successful career as a columnist/blogger/book author/TV and radio guest contributor; or become a combination of television journalist/celebrity?

Would that we all could have such decisions to make.

Spurius Ligustinus on July 28, 2007 at 2:19 PM

Wow. Michelle seems to be getting even better at this TV thing. She could always hold the viewer’s attention and maintain the flow, but there’s a real sense of accomplished professionalism coming to the fore, fortunately without any dimunition of her signature passion. Remarkable highlights that make me wish I’d seen the whole thing.

I know you said she doesn’t have much influence over topics (is that still true when she hosts?), but it’s great to see the Beauchamp story getting this kind of exposure. Like you, I think that story matters, but I’m starting to think it matters most as an exposure of the ways that the media does business, the way that facts that fit the preconceived narrative are precisely the ones that aren’t checked, and the bigger underlying story that the blogosphere’s way of handling errors (other people finding the errors and pointing them out and obligating you to respond) is actually superior to the MSM’s puffed-up but thin “layers of fact checking” that supposedly take place behind those closed doors.

Splunge on July 28, 2007 at 11:39 PM

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