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posted at 12:35 pm on July 27, 2007 by Bryan
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The GOP presidential candidates would be making a huge mistake in running away from their 9/17 CNN/YouTube debate. Just ask Big Brother.

(huge thanks to Chris R.)

Patrick Ruffini has set up a campaign site, Save the Debate. If you agree that the Republicans shouldn’t run away from this debate, head over there and make yourself heard.

And here’s a poll for our readers: Should the candidates attend the debate or not?

Everyone ought to keep this in mind.

Update: Wizbang’s Lorie Byrd:

Republicans should not be afraid to answer questions from a YouTube audience — even if some of them are a bit, er, loopy. They couldn’t be that much worse than some of the past debate moderators (Tinfoil Olbermann comes to mind).

Update: Save the Debate has an embeddable petition you can sign and send to others to encourage them to keep the GOP candidates in the debate.

Update: Robert Bluey reports that a date change may save the debate.


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I refuse to vote in any poll that doesn’t have Ron Paul as an option!

Religious_Zealot on July 27, 2007 at 1:12 PM

worst poll ever. the script is the worst coding i think i’ve ever seen :P

lorien1973 on July 27, 2007 at 1:12 PM

I’ve changed my mind. They should attend.

amerpundit on July 27, 2007 at 1:15 PM

This is precisely the type of response we should have. We need to meet and beat them at their own game.

It’s not like you have to set up your own myspace page, but each of us really should be prepared to mobilize and coordinate in the digital world.

The Race Card on July 27, 2007 at 1:16 PM

I personally think that the youtube debate is nothing but an exercise in controlling the debate. All the questions to the dems were set up to be easy. The repubs will be blasted with nothing but ultralib accusations. It will be a joke and I believe it just demeans the Presidential election process. Can you imagine Reagan agreeing to be lambasted by a snowman?. Seriously, I will have more respect for a candidate who will make a stand against this foolishness than a candidate who will be willingly led to the slaughter like a good little sheep. We don’t need sheep. We need sheepdogs.

Guardian on July 27, 2007 at 1:19 PM

The Race Card

How do we beat them at their own game when they have full control over it? It’s the equivalent of agreeing to a football game where your opponent is issued helium filled footballs and your ball is filled with concrete.

Guardian on July 27, 2007 at 1:23 PM

lorien1973 on July 27, 2007 at 1:12 PM

There are worse.

A media giant like HA should have their own branded php/flash poll. Then let other’s embed an HA php/flash poll on their sites.

The Race Card on July 27, 2007 at 1:26 PM

Of course they should attend the debate.
There is no good reason for them not too.

terryannonline on July 27, 2007 at 1:30 PM

How do we beat them at their own game when they have full control over it? It’s the equivalent of agreeing to a football game where your opponent is issued helium filled footballs and your ball is filled with concrete.

Guardian on July 27, 2007 at 1:23 PM

We beat them by having bodybuilder player that can run with two concrete-filled footballs under each arm and pop the opposing side’s helium ones. THAT’S how we win.

ScottMcC on July 27, 2007 at 1:32 PM

I’m in complete agreement with the Viral Video.

But this will be an impossible decision for many of the Hot Air posters to ponder:

“Gee…Michelle, Bryan and AP think that the Republicans should participate in the debate. And I always agree with their opinions. But wait a minute…the Republicans like Mitt and Rudy are saying they don’t want to participate, and I always agree with what the Republicans say. What am I going to do? My head is going to explode! This is so unfair!!”

asc85 on July 27, 2007 at 1:32 PM

Guardian on July 27, 2007 at 1:23 PM

To quote Firefly:

Zoë: Don’t think it’s a good spot, sir. She still has the advantage over us.
Mal: Everyone always does. That’s what makes us special.

We beat them by being better than them. So what if they lob softballs to them, and pitch fastballs to us? Our candidates oughta be able to hit every pitch.

apollyonbob on July 27, 2007 at 1:33 PM

The ‘pubs will cave and I’ll be looking forward to listening to Michael Savage’s live commentary and ridicule of every one of them.

MrC_5150 on July 27, 2007 at 1:33 PM

Republican candidates are right to snub CNN’S proposed youtube debate.

The candidates would snub a proposed debate at an insane asylum as well, and a debate moderated by inmates at an insane asylum would be only slightly more inane than a Republican debate moderated by CNN.

As Ed Morrisey ably argued over at his CQ site, the CNN youtube format only cheapens the debate, and far better opportunities and venues will present themselves in profusion between now and the Convention.

clark smith on July 27, 2007 at 1:33 PM

Hopefully it doesnt turn into a fiasco with questions like we’ve witnessed from these nuts.

shooter on July 27, 2007 at 1:33 PM

ScottMcC on July 27, 2007 at 1:32 PM

Really? and who would that be?

Guardian on July 27, 2007 at 1:34 PM

Key finding: “Young people react with hostility to the Republicans on almost every measure and Republicans and younger voters disagree on almost every major issue of the day.”

No kidding. All we really have to do to win over the young voters is dissolve the military and legalize drugs.

RedWinged Blackbird on July 27, 2007 at 1:35 PM

ScottMcC on July 27, 2007 at 1:32 PM
Really? and who would that be?

Guardian on July 27, 2007 at 1:34 PM

Hence the point of the debate. Consider it a crucible. This is for Republicans to decide who the strongest candidate is. Then that person will go up against whoever the Democracts pick … but this way, our choice will be stronger because they’ve had to endure more. It’s a benefit to us, and a disadvantage to them.

apollyonbob on July 27, 2007 at 1:39 PM

Again, the medium
is the message
.

The message/medium stated that politics is a joke.

The Republicans that hope to win the primary should make this statement:

“Although we welcome questions from anybody and we have answered and can answer any tough questions, we do not believe that political discussion should be cheapened via a hodge podge of a borderline comedic format.
The questions asked on the YouTube debate were the same kind of questions that we encounter on a daily basis in our community forums across the country.
Therefore the only way we would do a Nationally broadcast YouTube debate is if the producers can promise us the format will not make politics look like a joke”

Then they should go right ahead and open their own YouTube format question/answer forum and broadcast snippets of these on their TV ads locally ahead of the primaries.

I just cannot for the life of me understand how anyone can see a redeeming value in the “joker’s format”.
To me it is a blatant attempt from the MSM to cheapen politics so that people get bored and complacent
.

I’m convinced that the National format is not where the battle for the minds is ultimately won.

Exit question:
Does anybody believe that Hillary and Obama would have lost their momentum by missing out on the YouTube debate?

Mcguyver on July 27, 2007 at 1:41 PM

The UTube debate with the Demos was a complete joke. Puerile idiots asking liberal idiots idiotic questions.
Sometimes grownups (and I thought that Repubs were supposed to be grown-ups) should just resist the urge to act like adolescents–by participating in such an event.
Guardian shoots, and scores.

Christine on July 27, 2007 at 1:44 PM

My head is going to explode! This is so unfair!!”

asc85 on July 27, 2007 at 1:32 PM

So what is your opinion?

How did you vote on the poll above?

You do have a capacity for an independent opinion, don’t you?

Mcguyver on July 27, 2007 at 1:45 PM

Mcguyver on July 27, 2007 at 1:41 PM

The Democrats are held to a different standard by the MSM. It’s not fair, but life rarely is.

apollyonbob on July 27, 2007 at 1:45 PM

It’s a benefit to us, and a disadvantage to them.
apollyonbob on July 27, 2007 at 1:39 PM

I still don’t see how any good can come from it. I seriously doubt they are going to get real questions as opposed to being ridiculed by idiots who most people wouldn’t give the time of day to. I don’t see how they will be able to gain an advantage from it. The G-man will be peppered with references to cross dressing and Mitt will be accused of hating dogs. Mark my words, it will be a joke at best. Just my opinion though.

Guardian on July 27, 2007 at 1:47 PM

It’s the equivalent of agreeing to a football game where your opponent is issued helium filled footballs and your ball is filled with concrete.

Guardian on July 27, 2007 at 1:23 PM

Are we talking politics or sports here?

Let’s stay on the subject… PLEASE!

Mcguyver on July 27, 2007 at 1:48 PM

The Democrats are held to a different standard by the MSM. It’s not fair, but life rarely is.

apollyonbob on July 27, 2007 at 1:45 PM

The f*****g MSM does NOT run the Republicans!!

The MSM does not run the country!!

The only reason you have such a biased view of WHO RUNS THE COUNTRY is because we (collectively) have allowed the straw men MSM to influence us into thinking they run the majority view!!!

Mcguyver on July 27, 2007 at 1:53 PM

It’s the equivalent of agreeing to a football game debate where your opponent is issued helium filled footballs soft easy questions and your ball questions are filled with concrete senseless malice.

Guardian on July 27, 2007 at 1:23 PM

Are we talking politics or sports here?

Let’s stay on the subject… PLEASE!

Mcguyver on July 27, 2007 at 1:48 PM

Better?

Guardian on July 27, 2007 at 1:54 PM

Stop bemoaning the youth vote going to Dem’s. They don’t vote that much.

Youtube is not a part of the media. It’s memory and servers.

JiangxiDad on July 27, 2007 at 2:08 PM

Youtube is not a part of the media. It’s memory and servers.

And videos of skateboarders getting hit in the crotch.

Nethicus on July 27, 2007 at 2:11 PM

Not attending will simply send the wrong message, regardless of whether the Republicans will get harder questions then the Dems. I do agree with the sentiment that a presidential candidate should be treated with more dignity than being asked a question by a snowman. However, during the debate would be a good time to express that view. If a snowman asks you a question, state how ridiculous it is that something as serious as the presidency of the United States is treated with such irreverence. Then you answer the question seriously and knock the ball out the park.

Running away only makes people think you’re weak. That’s what I thought about the dems when they ran away from Fox News. This is about showing the people that you’re the right person to lead the nation and getting the undecided individuals in your camp. Leadership is about strength and personality. EVERY opportunity to show these qualities should be taken.

FireDrake on July 27, 2007 at 2:12 PM

Excellent video, Bryan!

Mindcrime on July 27, 2007 at 2:16 PM

Hopefully it doesnt turn into a fiasco with questions like we’ve witnessed from these nuts.

shooter on July 27, 2007 at 1:33 PM

Awww come on. Aren’t you looking forward to a global warming question from the Mrs. and Mrs. Lezlee Dykestrom “snowman” [sic] family?

MrC_5150 on July 27, 2007 at 2:17 PM

Better?

Guardian on July 27, 2007 at 1:54 PM

Much better.

Thanks!

Mcguyver on July 27, 2007 at 2:22 PM

Seriously… don’t kill us Bryan. Trying to appeal to pathos is nice and all, but let’s use another piece from the rhetorical triangle. 1)PRIMARY DEBATE: it’s like Alien vs Predator- whoever wins, I still had my life force sucked out of me 2)IT’S CNN: Does anyone watch it? FNC still won out the night 3) WHAT NEW IDEAS WILL THERE BE?: This isn’t going for the regular public as much as the politicos generalissimos out there

End the Torture, Stop the Debates!

I question the timing.

TheEJS on July 27, 2007 at 2:24 PM

If a snowman asks you a question, state how ridiculous it is that something as serious as the presidency of the United States is treated with such irreverence. Then you answer the question seriously and knock the ball out the park.
FireDrake on July 27, 2007 at 2:12 PM


Great independent opinion!

So…. there is more than one way to skin

a cat

snowman.

Mcguyver on July 27, 2007 at 2:25 PM

So…. there is more than one way to skina cat

snowman.

Mcguyver on July 27, 2007 at 2:25 PM

Mcguyver on July 27, 2007 at 2:25 PM

How do we beat them at their own game when they have full control over it? It’s the equivalent of agreeing to a football game where your opponent is issued helium filled footballs and your ball is filled with concrete.

Guardian on July 27, 2007 at 1:23 PM

My balls are filled with concrete. That’s why I’m not afraid to face them on their own turf.

I mean, here we are exchanging ideas on one of the most influential forums in the country. Yet, some of us want to ignore the draw of youtube.

Does interactivity end with HotAir? The logic does not follow. We need to venture further. I look forward to seeing a video from a HotAirer in the debate.

I’ve worked in more than one newsroom. Yes, there is a hard left tilt. But the new media platforms are primarily user driven. That means we control our role within.

Think about the amnesty bill. Talk radio and blog genius killed it. If we treat this next debate as an opportunity to expand our party platform, then we will win.

If we stand down here, its tantamount to walking around plugging our ears. We look like prime candidates for the fairness doctrine and probably deserve it.

The Race Card on July 27, 2007 at 2:29 PM

Attention All CNN/YT apologists:

This is how we should have debates.

TheEJS on July 27, 2007 at 2:34 PM

it would be wicked retarded to not attend. why are republicans so ascared of the internets? how about y’all send in your own questions? there’s plenty of ya here and if they get all them “real” questions there’s a lot less chance of them using the un-”real” ones. but then you’d have to actually do something so i don’t know.

sansabelt on July 27, 2007 at 2:34 PM

First of all, the questions will be selected by CNN and NOT the You Tube questioners. So why bother with the You Tube crap to begin with. They will cherry pick all the usual suspect questions dealing with the GOPs BS racism, homophobia, sexism, bigotry etc. Then they will throw in the other BS questions concerning abortion. We could write the script in advance for CNNs crapfest of a debate. If you want to get your video on the debate, just make one claiming that you were a former republican who switched parties because of Bush, Katrina, Plame, Libby, Gonzales, blah, blah, blah. Guaranteed to get on. Ask what they will do to get you back. If they do go on, they should go on offense big time and slam all the cookie cutter crap that gets thrown at them.

roninacreage on July 27, 2007 at 2:41 PM

If a Republican candidate is afraid to appear on CNN and/or participate in a You Tube Debate, how can any of the candidates stand-up to Terrorism?

Oxybeles on July 27, 2007 at 2:42 PM

Everyone ought to keep this in mind.

No offense to anyone intended, but I have almost no faith that a Youtube debate will change the minds of people in my generation. After all, this is the same group of people listening to System of a Down and Rage Against the Machine while looking up to people like Leonardo Di Caprio.

Plus, people my age, and younger, don’t necessarily care anyway. Until they can see how it effects them personally, either through taxes or a draft, they’ll prefer to stay home and do an American Idol call-in vote from the comfort of their couches.

Esthier on July 27, 2007 at 2:44 PM

Stop bemoaning the youth vote going to Dem’s. They don’t vote that much.

Youtube is not a part of the media. It’s memory and servers.

JiangxiDad on July 27, 2007 at 2:08 PM

Yeah from my own experience I can attest to that.
I thought I was a liberal until I was 28, then about a year after 9/11 I suddenly realized that conservatives were the only ones making sense. I’ve voted conservative in every election since too, while I don’t think I had ever voted before. How does the saying go? Young people aren’t conservative because they don’t have anything to conserve yet?

Keli on July 27, 2007 at 2:44 PM

My head is going to explode! This is so unfair!!”

asc85 on July 27, 2007 at 1:32 PM

So what is your opinion?

How did you vote on the poll above?

You do have a capacity for an independent opinion, don’t you?

Mcguyver on July 27, 2007 at 1:45 PM

Ummmm…did you read the first line of that post??

asc85 on July 27, 2007 at 2:44 PM

Am I alone in thinking that the responses to that poll(the 18 to 29 year olds)reflected the pap that the MSM regularly and relentlessly spouts? Only a very few seemed able to think for themselves when they gave answers, the majority seemed “programmed” to reflect what they must hear and read in the media. As for the “debate”, I still feel it’s a waste of time. But….those candidates that might/will participate will need to be prepared for anything and if they’re up for it, who am I to shoot it down. Not going to sign the petition though.

jeanie on July 27, 2007 at 2:45 PM

The ‘pubs will cave and I’ll be looking forward to listening to Michael Savage’s live commentary and ridicule of every one of them.

MrC_5150 on July 27, 2007 at 1:33 PM

I don’t mean to pick on you, MrC, but I’m in a mood and anyone who claims that the commentary of populist nitwit Mikey Savagstein is something to listen to deserves it.

No, I certainly do not want the GOP candidates debasing themselves to CNN and the You Tube monkeys. Unless 14 year olds can vote, You Tube doesn’t hold much promise for the election. And if any 18 year olds are still getting their opinions from that cess pool, they probably aren’t smart enough to register.

Gingrich has it right.

Jaibones on July 27, 2007 at 2:45 PM

Frankly, I’m dying to see a GOP candiate (most likely Rudy will jump at it) do a live smack down of anyone from CNN/YouTube if they dare present him a question delivered by an animated snowman.

dm60462 on July 27, 2007 at 2:52 PM

How do we beat them at their own game when they have full control over it? It’s the equivalent of agreeing to a football game where your opponent is issued helium filled footballs and your ball is filled with concrete.

Guardian on July 27, 2007 at 1:23 PM

We do two kinds of plays: One where we place the concrete football in front of us and use the additional weight to plow through other players. The second play involves throwing a short pass where the ball archs up and then crashes down on an opposing teams helmet. If they complain we just say “some idiot filled our ball with concrete, what do you want us to do?”

And actually, the helium football would probably be worse. It’d be hearly impossible to run anything other than Hail Mary passes, because any overarching would make the reciever a sitting duck. But whatever.

BKennedy on July 27, 2007 at 2:57 PM

If a Republican candidate is afraid to appear on CNN and/or participate in a You Tube Debate, how can any of the candidates stand-up to Terrorism?

Oxybeles on July 27, 2007 at 2:42 PM

Uhhh. What?!

MrC_5150 on July 27, 2007 at 2:57 PM

I wrote about the Democratic Youtube debate here http://mark24609.blogspot.com/2007/07/youtube-meets-democrats-in-land-of-oz.html

It would be a grave mistake if the GOP backed out of the Youtube debate. The Democratic debate may have been silly, but it was the first time we heard about their ideas on nuclear power, gun control, etc. The GOP should do embrace the Youtube debate. We need to be different than the Democrats.

Mark
http://mark24609.blogspot.com/

Juventud, divino tesoro, ¡ya te vas para no volver! Ruben Dario

mark24609 on July 27, 2007 at 2:58 PM

Ummmm…did you read the first line of that post??

asc85 on July 27, 2007 at 2:44 PM

Of course I did. Just didn’t repost it for brevities sake.

So what part of, “you do have a capacity for an independent opinion,” question did you not want to answer?

Don’t mean to sound rude.
Just want to know your opinion.

Mcguyver on July 27, 2007 at 3:06 PM

Oh please. That poll of young adults needs to be taken with a mine full of salt. Furthermore a lot of them don’t vote. And finally, appearing in this debate will change nothing. The debate simply validates the MSM’s double standard and encourages more of the same.
American politics is a blood sport, and you won’t win letting the other guy set the agenda, rules, and traps.
Maybe a little backbone now will ensure more serious debate venues next year.

Randy

williars on July 27, 2007 at 3:12 PM

BKennedy on July 27, 2007 at 2:57 PM

Fine. But you can count on a lot of broken feet and no field goals

Guardian on July 27, 2007 at 3:15 PM

I said the same thing over at Michelle’s blog but… Yes, it would be a great opportunity for the Republican candidates to go out there and really tell it how it is. Of course, after reading that sentence, you should know how completely impossible that notion really is. These guys aren’t going to play the ’straight talk express’ because it doesn’t exist. God bless them if it did, but I just don’t see it happening. None of these guys have the kahones to tell truth to… youtube. So skip it. No one really cares, and the majority of people who are posting youtube videos will not agree with our side out of teenage angst principle.

NeoConNews on July 27, 2007 at 3:26 PM

Rare is the 18-25 year old, with raging hormones and an untested concept of what it is really like out in the world beyond high school or college, that can embrace the sophistication of conservative principles and ideals. Heck, less than half the nation manages to. I don’t care much for Trent Lott, but his analogy of “herding cats” fits pretty well, in describing the response to efforts to encourage the young to participate in the conservative movement.
I’m still cringing over the Democratic Youtube debate. Do the Republicans really want to go through that?

captivated_dem on July 27, 2007 at 3:38 PM

The GOP candidates should tell CNN that they would love to do a debate, but not with that asinine format.

TheSitRep on July 27, 2007 at 3:42 PM

In order to vote you should have to:
Prove you have a working knowledge of government and current issues.
Have an I.Q. above 100
Not be on welfare
Be over 30 years old or a veteran.

TheSitRep on July 27, 2007 at 3:47 PM

It would be a big mistake.

unamused on July 27, 2007 at 3:52 PM

I don’t mean to pick on you, MrC, but I’m in a mood and anyone who claims that the commentary of populist nitwit Mikey Savagstein is something to listen to deserves it.

Jaibones on July 27, 2007 at 2:45 PM

This isn’t the first time you’ve singled me out for posting something about Michael Savage so I’d doubt it that it has anything to do with your…. ummmmm….”mood”.

MrC_5150 on July 27, 2007 at 4:07 PM

In the public’s minds

Running away from Fox = Not wanting to have to prove themselves to a network that does not like them; whipy yes, but understandable.

Running away from YouTube = Not wanting to have to prove themselves to the common man/woman/guy in a viking hat; whipy yes, and not understandable.

- Teh C4t

MirCat on July 27, 2007 at 4:12 PM

Good Lord. Just do it. Show them our side has a big set of gumballs.

What? Oh. Never mind.

BacaDog on July 27, 2007 at 4:12 PM

The candidates should join the debate. And when they do I hope they don’t try to act “cool” in an attempt to appeal to the younger generation. That will be painful. Like Hillary speaking to a Southern Black audience, “Aaa’ve come to farrr y’aalll…”

I can here Rudy talking right now, “It’s – like – you know – sealing the border is – like – really cool man. Know what I mean.”

Please, I hope we don’t hear anything like that.

Zetterson on July 27, 2007 at 4:16 PM

MrC_5150 on July 27, 2007 at 4:07 PM

MrC, believe me — I have no personal quarrel with you, and in fact I don’t recall seeing your name before. So it must be that I have a special place for Mr. Savage, and indeed I do.

I won’t list my view of his failings; it’s pointless. But I have never found him persuasive. I find him relentlessly offensive and angry. I apologize for dropping him on your head, though.

And, anyway, it sounds as though you agree that the candidates should reject the debate format?

Jaibones on July 27, 2007 at 4:19 PM

Actually I think there are more than just 18-25 year olds who would pose questions. They had over 3000 videos from the Democratic Youtube debate. I wonder why Fox doesn’t do a Youtube debate? The CNN debate might be skewed but I don’t think the GOP should run away from it. That would give fodder for the Democrats, and I believe we were carping when the Democrats wouldn’t do the Fox debate. We have to be different than they

Mark
http://mark24609.blogspot.com/

Juventud, divino tesoro, ¡ya te vas para no volver! Ruben Dario

mark24609 on July 27, 2007 at 4:26 PM

And, anyway, it sounds as though you agree that the candidates should reject the debate format?

Jaibones on July 27, 2007 at 4:19 PM

Absolutely.

MrC_5150 on July 27, 2007 at 4:48 PM

So we’re agreed; excellent. And Mr. Savage endorses our position?

Jaibones on July 27, 2007 at 4:49 PM

I am starting to sense that the difference of opinion on this comes down to metrosexuals vs. luddites. I am happily and smugly in the company of the luddites.

Jaibones on July 27, 2007 at 4:52 PM

. I wonder why Fox doesn’t do a Youtube debate?

Don’t believe Google would let them.

JiangxiDad on July 27, 2007 at 5:04 PM

How about the RNC sponsors it’s own vidoe debate. Go around the country and solicit legitimite questions from prominent and reasonable Americans from all political persuasions and then have the candidates answer those. Set up the whole thing and then offer it to any network that wants it. Put it on C-Span if there arent any takers.
George Soros is pumping money into video production as we speak and the CNN ambush will be embarrassing and a nightmare none of the candidates may rebound from.

peacenprosperity on July 27, 2007 at 5:33 PM

I still fail to understand why all of the televised “American Idol” styled Q&A forums are being referred to as “debates”. The candidates aren’t debating each other (or the moderators for that matter). They’re subjected to “gotcha!” questions and then are given 30-90 seconds to give a brief statement to defend themselves. That isn’t true debate in my mind.

Dave Shay on July 27, 2007 at 5:33 PM

That would give fodder for the Democrats,

If on the way to the next debate all the republican candidates rushed into a burning orphanage to save children, the evening news would have an expert estimating what the fire added to global warming and whether the candidates prolonged the fire.

peacenprosperity on July 27, 2007 at 5:35 PM

Don’t believe Google would let them.

JiangxiDad on July 27, 2007 at 5:04 PM

Thus why I keep trying to pimp out FOX NEWS/IFILM debate.

BKennedy on July 27, 2007 at 5:36 PM

Stop bemoaning the youth vote going to Dem’s. They don’t vote that much.

Youtube is not a part of the media. It’s memory and servers.

JiangxiDad on July 27, 2007 at 2:08 PM

Media = plural of medium

If youtube is not a part of this communications complex, then what is HotAir? Foxnews.com, ABC? etc.. If it doesn’t matter, why would half of the candidates running for President of the most powerful nation on Earth have a specific strategy for using this non-medium?

Are Republican candidates the only ones that matter. No. We are in a battle. We ignore the other side to our detriment.

As far as low voter turnout for younger voters, they still cannot be ignored. What happens when all the curmudgeons die off?

Furthermore, some areas of the country have demographic shifts that favor an increasingly younger populus. Ignore those places too?

Are we proud to be seen as running away from a bunch of Democrats?

We should all submit videos waving white flags singing the French national anthem.

The Race Card on July 27, 2007 at 5:40 PM

Absolutely attend….

If you can’t laugh at yourself you might as well ask for a refund.

Come on….If genX isn’t worthy then who is? That is how it will be seen if you don’t show.

Limerick on July 27, 2007 at 5:52 PM

I agree with peacenprospertiy that is true youth don’t vote. I have a son 21 who has no interest in voting, but my daughter 16 wants to. That is good. Most don’t even know the issues. It was the Democrats who got the voting age lowered from 21 to 18 thinking they would pick up a few more votes, but who of us cared about politics at such a young age. I for one cared about one thing – girls

Mark
http://mark24609.blogspot.com/

Juventud, divino tesoro, ¡ya te vas para no volver! Ruben Dario – Nicaraguan poet

mark24609 on July 27, 2007 at 6:25 PM

mark24609 on July 27, 2007 at 6:25 PM

I agree.

I seriously doubt that skipping the Youtube “debate” will make any difference one way or the other.

Are we proud to be seen as running away from a bunch of Democrats?
The Race Card on July 27, 2007 at 5:40 PM

I would view a refusal to participate in a exercise of demeaning the Presidency as a sign of strength and integrity. Not as “running away”. If it is so dang important for the repubs to answer crazy biased questions by CNN picked immature liberal nut jobs, why not ask for the debate to be held by the Daily Kos? IF this “debate” was being held by the Kos Kids would you feel the same way? In the end what’s the difference?

Guardian on July 27, 2007 at 6:52 PM

So we’re agreed; excellent. And Mr. Savage endorses our position?

Jaibones on July 27, 2007 at 4:49 PM

I don’t know that he’s mentioned the republicans doing this or not but after listening to his ridicule of the format the other night with the dems, I have no doubt. I believe the word he used was “debasing”.

MrC_5150 on July 27, 2007 at 6:53 PM

The youth vote is a good reason to attend. The candidates would do themselves a favor if they would wear some phat bling, or a couple hot babes dancing around. A good explosion and some 140 mph motorcycle tricks would do ok too.

Ya gotta fish with the bait the fish like, not what you like.

csdeven on July 27, 2007 at 6:57 PM

Am I the only person to notice that the conventions are still a year away? Even if this was a real debate, it’s ridiculous to buy into the Clintonian permanent campaign. There’s nothing wrong with an adult telling a child, “There’ll be plenty of time for that later.”

Longhorn Six on July 27, 2007 at 7:02 PM

Boycott the YouTube debates. It’s the adult thing to do. Why stoop to the level of the children running the media and Democratic Party?

windbag on July 27, 2007 at 7:20 PM

My collie says:

Why don’t the Republican candidates ask the You-Tubers questions, instead of the other-way-round? THAT would be FAR MORE enlightening, and more entertaining, too.

Stupid dog.

CyberCipher on July 27, 2007 at 8:02 PM

I’d like to see a Republican YouTube debate if it is moderated by the Outdoor Life Network or some other non-partisan channel.

CNN would just do their best to make Republicans look bad.

jaime on July 27, 2007 at 8:16 PM

I disagree that we should try to force the GOP candidates to do this idiotic You-Tube debate. The Dem one was entirely farcical and foolish. We already have little enough respect for the presidency, this idiotic effort just makes it worse.

Sink the You-Tube debates!

Warner Todd Huston on July 27, 2007 at 8:54 PM

Im all for raising the level of the debate and not sinking to the lowest IQ level on youtube.

William Amos on July 27, 2007 at 9:35 PM

Im all for raising the level of the debate and not sinking to the lowest IQ level on youtube.

William Amos on July 27, 2007 at 9:35 PM

The lowest IQ level that CNN will show. The CNN/YouTube debate will be just another circus act put on by a bunch of people who hate us more than Al-Qaeda and who’s only goal is to make the Republicans look more stupid than the dems did.

Some of you out there ask why not beat them at their own game? I have a better question: why play their stupid f****** game in the first place? WHY?

TwinkietheKid on July 27, 2007 at 11:26 PM

We can’t bash the Dems for not going on FOX then excuse the Republicans for not going on CNN..yes their going to be set-up that goes without saying ..but make that work for you guys..if you know what kind of left leaning type of Questions your going to get ahead of time then you got time to prepare a proper response..hell this could work and backfire on CNN..if the Republicans are prepared with great comebacks to the biased Questions then they could come out of this with great ad spots.

mlong on July 27, 2007 at 11:35 PM

IF this “debate” was being held by the Kos Kids would you feel the same way? In the end what’s the difference?

Guardian on July 27, 2007 at 6:52 PM

If you are going to compare CNN to the DailyKos, then why is it wrong for the left to say that Fox News is in the bag for President Bush?

Has every reporter’s package from CNN been biased? Is it possible for bias to enter into every report? If so, then can the same be said for Fox? This mantra about liberal bias is blinding us.

We sound like a bunch of Girl Scouts standing outside of a cave. “No, you go in.” “No, you.”

Actually, Girl Scouts would probably be more game. Imagine how bad its gonna be by the time the debates roll around.

Sounds like the Flat Earth Society in here debating whether to keep their 8-track tapes or upgrade to cassettes.

The Race Card on July 27, 2007 at 11:43 PM

If you are going to compare CNN to the DailyKos, then why is it wrong for the left to say that Fox News is in the bag for President Bush?

The Race Card on July 27, 2007 at 11:43 PM

I don’t see how one can compare anonymous snowmen who can not be questioned to Fox News commentators who would be held accountable for any outright stupidity. There not even close to being in the same league. Hell, their not even close to being on the same planet!

Guardian on July 27, 2007 at 11:57 PM

Democrats are afraid to go on Fox because they would be asked about immigration and the war on terror

Republicans are hesitant to go on YouTube because the dont want to be asked if they think Bush is a chimpemperor or if Dick Cheney should have a real heart instead of a pacemaker.

So someone tell me why we are comparing Fox = YouTube ?

William Amos on July 28, 2007 at 1:44 AM

Why does my gut tell me that the YouTube questions rejected for the Democrats are going to be the ones offered to the Republicans?

Helloyawl on July 28, 2007 at 3:37 AM

Thinking it over…

Aren’t the questions available to anyone who goes to Youtube before the debates, meaning that candidates and their campaigns can see what may or may not be asked? In such a case, instead of simply pointing out the bias or silliness of a question (as has been suggested), a candidate could come armed with knowledge of actual important questions that were asked in submitted video clips, and ask “why didn’t you pick that one?” Just a thought.

Big S on July 28, 2007 at 3:51 AM

The only ‘fair’ way to handle this is for Fox to host the uTube debate. That way Fox can cherry-pick the questions for the Reps just like CNN cherry-picked them for the Dems.

Even then the dems still have the advantage due to the uTube leftist demographics.

Aylios on July 28, 2007 at 9:53 AM

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