Video: Flying imams stunt may have been set up to provoke lawsuit, says Peter King; Update: CAIR after Rudy now?
posted at 11:15 pm on July 25, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Yeah, that theory’s been floated before. He’s only speculating but his cop pals evidently think there’s something to it. As for who he thinks is behind it, I’ll make you watch the clip for that. A hint: they’re “a terrible organization, they are a disgrace, they support Islamic extremism.” See if you can guess!
The ACLU has already started whining about the “John Doe” provision, incidentally:
“It certainly immunizes anybody who says, ‘I don’t want someone who looks Arab on my plane,’” said Caroline Frederickson, director of the Washington legislative office of the American Civil Liberties Union. “It goes really, really far in legitimizing racial profiling.”
Unless she’s looking at a different statute than I am, no, it certainly doesn’t.
Update: Rudy is next on CAIR’s agenda, reports LGF.
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No, it can’t be? Provocation?
Surely you must be joking…
/okay, okay, I’ll stop calling you Shirley
Bob's Kid on July 25, 2007 at 11:20 PM
I am going to send Peter King money for his campaign whenever he is up for election…he is a true conservative, willing to walk the walk and fight the fight. He may not be able to get everything we want because, quite frankly, in today’s political encironment that just isn’t always possible, but he is the kind of leader that the country needs.
JustTruth101 on July 25, 2007 at 11:27 PM
what no law suits what are the
lawyersbottom feeding worms going to do now .Mojack420 on July 25, 2007 at 11:30 PM
I absolutely think it was a stunt.
Spirit of 1776 on July 25, 2007 at 11:35 PM
Set up? Well, duh! The imans and cair should be taken to the financial cleaners for pulling this crap.
Blake on July 25, 2007 at 11:45 PM
All of the Imam gang changing their seats right before take-off to symetrical six points in the cabin (exit rows)?? Of course it was provocative! It was a blatant stunt to gain even greater victimhood status in the public eye, which V-status is crack for CAIR. Their addiction knows no bounds.
Well, I think they overplayed their hand. I hope so. Moreover, they should be counter-sued for provocative behavior, as should the “wires and timers in the block of cheese” guys. The FBI better be tracking down all known associates of the idiots bringing such dry-run-like stuff through security.
G. Charles on July 25, 2007 at 11:51 PM
I had never even heard of seatbelt extenders until this incident.
These sick f*cks KNEW what they were doing. (and it werent’ good!)
omnipotent on July 25, 2007 at 11:51 PM
If all the eyewitness reports corroborate then it was obvious they were trying to start trouble. Isn’t there a law about interferring with a flight and how come or cowardly government hasn’t filed charges against them?
peacenprosperity on July 25, 2007 at 11:51 PM
Why can,t the Government sue CAIR and its foot soldiers
now that the truth is coming to light.
canopfor on July 25, 2007 at 11:57 PM
Why is “racial profiling” so undesirable? Seems like an efficient and prudent method of making the most of our anti-terror measures.
hillbillyjim on July 25, 2007 at 11:59 PM
Profiling is a natural human survival technique.
Connie on July 26, 2007 at 12:11 AM
Agreed.
Was Alan even paying attention? First he says that CAIR wasn’t involved and that the whistleblowers brought on the lawsuit. Then he says we didn’t act on securing our country. Then he says a majority of Democrats supported the measure.
Does he have access to Google?
amerpundit on July 26, 2007 at 12:12 AM
Rudy for Prez! He’s got the best shot against ol’ Cankles!
The Sinner on July 26, 2007 at 12:15 AM
I never thought I would say this, but my respect for Alan Colmes went up tonight. To be able to take that argument, straight faced, and get so pwned, and still have the guts to keep comming back on national tv…man.
There has to be multiple realities, and libs are liveing in a different one than us.
MalkinFan on July 26, 2007 at 12:18 AM
I wish Peter King was my Congressman. Unfortunately, I live just outside his district and I have a do nothing back bencher lunatic for a Congressman, the “Honorable” Timothy Bishop. Check his recoord. Oh, that’s right, he doesn’t have a record worth checking.
Babs on July 26, 2007 at 12:30 AM
I am told that this is a temporary condition. Now lay down on THE COUCH and tell me: “Am I really this crazy or am I just a Moonbat?”
Good luck with that condition!
hillbillyjim on July 26, 2007 at 12:34 AM
The government suing is called “filing charges” or “indicting”. If what those guys did was intentional, and if all the reported eyewitness accounts are true it is obvious it was intentional, then the government needs to file charges.
I’m not betting money on the government doing that.
Maybe if the imams worked for the border patrol.
peacenprosperity on July 26, 2007 at 12:37 AM
I’ve been calling this a political stunt as opposed to a dry run for a while now, and I think that’s an important distinction to make.
We overreach and give them ammo if we call it a dry run.
see-dubya on July 26, 2007 at 12:45 AM
Forget the arabs, it’s the babies that look suspicious to me!
Kevin M on July 26, 2007 at 12:48 AM
Colmsey rarely seems to pay attention, unless it’s something he says. That smirk drives me nuts, when he thinks he “got” someone.
I like what I see from King. There should be more like him. Too many today are worried about being PC and their image. This guy is no BS. And yes I think it was a setup too.
PowWow on July 26, 2007 at 1:03 AM
Anyone who denies that this is a cultural war for our future, is , sadly, misinformed.
hillbillyjim on July 26, 2007 at 1:07 AM
What “race” is Muslim, again?
Oh, right, according to Malcolm X., it is all races.
So we can profile anyone at will.
As long as they’re suspicious.
Drop a dime on ‘em before they drop an airliner.
profitsbeard on July 26, 2007 at 1:18 AM
The Flying Imams sounds like a great name for a circus act.
If only Mohammad had gone into the carnival business instead of religion…
Bozo the jihadist?
profitsbeard on July 26, 2007 at 1:23 AM
Leave it to the Krazy Kos Kidz to make even discussing Islamic extremism a racist act:
The Sinner on July 26, 2007 at 1:53 AM
Combs is really trying to cover and deflect blame from the Democrats intervention here on this issue. Doesn’t Comb watch the news or read the newspapers? King is looking at Combs like he just crawled out from under a rock yesterday. Oh and btw, Screw CAIR.
KCtheKat on July 26, 2007 at 2:20 AM
I haven’t peeked yet. Um, CAIR? I know it’s a long shot.
Kralizec on July 26, 2007 at 2:36 AM
Under the circumstances, the insistence that one is not profiling is also the result of a natural, human instinct that promotes survival.
Kralizec on July 26, 2007 at 2:39 AM
Thank you Peter King!!!
oakpack on July 26, 2007 at 5:57 AM
see dubya, They were kicked off the plane for good reason, not just because they were a bit odd. There was a prudent concern that some sort of terror connection was a possibility, whether “dry-run” or worse.
Therefore, I think your point is that now, in retrospect, after conversation and investigation, we shouldn’t be insisting that it was a dry-run, otherwise we would be showing ourselves to be prejudiced. If so, fine.
But at the time, their provocation was creating great uncertainty as to their intentions. That purposeful provocation is essentially indestinguishible from true “dry-runs” like the wires-in-cheese/clay may prove to be. Both should ban people from flight, at least, and prosecution where such actions are demonstrably pre-meditated.
Behavior that shouts, “fire!” in theater or airplane is wrong, whether one is just a practical joker, a political victim addict, an “investigative” reporter, a dry-run arsonist, or an arsonist in the act.
G. Charles on July 26, 2007 at 6:15 AM
I also wanted to clarify, it doesn’t matter whether they were provoking in order bring an actual lawsuit or provoking just in order to just claim they were victims in the court of public opinion, or even just to assert their victimhood in their next imam slumber-party; their provocations were deliberate, and post 9/11, illegally disruptive.
G. Charles on July 26, 2007 at 6:30 AM
CAIR must stop picking on our vice-presidential candidate.
saved on July 26, 2007 at 7:50 AM
So if you are walking across the african veldt and looking past the gazelles to keep your eye on the lions, are you profiling?
peacenprosperity on July 26, 2007 at 8:07 AM
There is absolutely no question that this was intentional provocation meant to generate the exact response it did, and it was meant to be followed by legal manipulation. It is part of the large Islamic plan to subvert the US legal system (and subjugate feeble minded Democrats, but I repeat myself)and turn it upon itself for their own ends.
drjohn on July 26, 2007 at 8:07 AM
The airline (I forget which one it was) and the passengers need to sue the muslims who were on the plane and caused delays and headaches and unnecessary terror for the people on the plane.
SouthernGent on July 26, 2007 at 8:19 AM
I have no doubt they were provoking the incident to intimidate people against reporting suspicious activity, thus opening the door for easier terrorist attacks. I have no doubt their guidance on this action came from abroad. I hope all of their correspondence, their families’ correspondence, their friends’ correspondence and even communications made by strangers they meet on the street are being scoured by federal authorities. They are criminals and legislation is neede to make their actions punishable by prison and deportation.
doufree on July 26, 2007 at 8:21 AM
And here I thought I was the only one who heard the “Sabre Dance” music whenever someone said or wrote that.
James on July 26, 2007 at 8:28 AM
Flying imams stunt may have been set up to provoke lawsuit
Ya think?
morganfrost on July 26, 2007 at 8:36 AM
Gee, I always thought that the media refused to use the word ‘provocateurs’ because the high dollar news readers couldn’t pronounce the word.
The day it happened it took me about ten minutes to conclude “intentional provocation” after reading the raw police reports.
Yes the incident was intentional.
Yes CAIR wants Sharia here in the good old U.S.A.
It will be a long war.
TunaTalon on July 26, 2007 at 9:19 AM
You have your hard power and your soft power. Seems like now you also have you soft terrorism to go along with your hard terrorism.
smellthecoffee on July 26, 2007 at 9:35 AM
I’d go see them….as long as they work without a net….me and my airhorn
ej_pez on July 26, 2007 at 9:47 AM
Monty Python and the Flying Imams:
“What is the airspeed of an African swallow?”
“I don’t care! Allahu akbar!” Kaboom!
Lancer on July 26, 2007 at 10:03 AM
Flying imams stunt may have been set up to provoke lawsuit
Ya think?
morganfrost on July 26, 2007 at 8:36 AM
That statement about sum’s it up, a scam from the start….duh….geez
ajmontana on July 26, 2007 at 10:07 AM
Ya think?
D’oh!
Lawrence on July 26, 2007 at 10:08 AM
I meant to quote morganfrost’s comment, not coppy it.
Lawrence on July 26, 2007 at 10:09 AM
Sean and Congressman King have provided the public the truth that is needed to protect U.S. from those from the dark side that only have one ambition-our extermination.
Those on the left can keep their mouths shut if they want to and bear the consequences of their ignorance. What they need to understand is that the enemy of U.S. do not care which side of the political spectrum ‘YOU ARE OF NO VALUE TO THEIR CAUSE UNLESS YOU ACQUIESCE TO THEIR IDEA OF PEACE’.
If you see bad be good and report it-do not be bullied
MSGTAS on July 26, 2007 at 10:13 AM
Absolutely. Remember, the imams had just finished a 2-3 day meeting and were probably setting this entire thing up. Instant attorneys, instant press releases…
TOTAL SET UP. NO DOUBT.
shooter on July 26, 2007 at 10:59 AM
p.s. That was the best smack down I’ve seen on Colmes…evah.
shooter on July 26, 2007 at 11:08 AM
Maybe someday all of the conservatives will grow up and be like Peter King. As for that stupid show, it’s so over the top it’s laughable. Colmes’ role is simply to take the opposite of anything normal (”isn’t it his right to set kittens on fire and then crush them? Are you saying coservatives have never done that?”) and be “controversial”. What a complete pencil necked dork…
JWS on July 26, 2007 at 11:41 AM
I’ve made this analogy before. The Bride of Monster treats her allergies by periodically injecting herself with small (gradually increasing over time) quantities of the things she’s allergic to. The idea is that it desensitizes her system to these antigens.
The goal of the Flying Imams is to desensitize us to suspicious behavior.
The Monster on July 26, 2007 at 11:54 AM
Wake up lady, this is a post-9/11 world we live in. And since when are these Flying Imams American?
I love it when Alan gets his ass kicked on his own show.
RMCS_USN on July 26, 2007 at 12:10 PM
CAIR is a terrorist organization, let them take on Rudy, then everyone in the United States will finally see just who and what they really are. If you havent been to this website yet then go now, you are in for a very rude awakening with regard to who CAIR really is and what they are really doing.
Proof that CAIR are terrorists…
doriangrey on July 26, 2007 at 12:19 PM
Huh? Of course it was a stunt, is there really still any doubt whatsoever that the Imams pulled this to provoke exactly the chain of events that they did provoke???
Of course it was a stunt! As sure as 2+2=4, this was a stunt. Act like a bunch of terrorists, wait for terrified passengers to complain, wait for the buddies at CAIR to scream ISLAMOPHOBIA and start throwing lawsuits around.
Lol, I mean what can possibly be more obvious? What I can’t believe is that anyone can still possibly doubt that this was a stunt … ah hold on there are still people that believe that 9/11 was an inside job … yeah ok, I’ll admit there’ll always be people that will “doubt”.
Aylios on July 26, 2007 at 12:38 PM
Absolutely, it was worth watching just for that alone. Listening to Colmesey start babbling his pile of BS my jaw dropped and I thought “What is this guy on about???”, so it was doubly gratifying to have King smack him down very systematically on every single BS point he made.
Aylios on July 26, 2007 at 12:41 PM
A PLOY?
YOU DON’T SAAAAAAAAAAAAY.
seejanemom on July 26, 2007 at 3:45 PM
Why is the ACLU lawyer assuming an Arab would be a muslim? What a racist wench!
SouthernGent on July 26, 2007 at 6:05 PM
Colmes=tool. Rarely gets his facts straight, just spewing DNC talking points. Check his tax returns, is he on the DNC payroll?
Snidely Whiplash on July 26, 2007 at 7:42 PM
Really now, you really think it was a stunt? Nah! Change your seats, request seat belt extenders for a 150 pound man? Kneel down in front of all of the passengers and start jabbering to allah. No not a stunt at all! Sure it wasn’t! Believe that and the Easter Bunny will be visiting your homes next Easter!
NEMETI IN SYRACUSE on July 26, 2007 at 7:50 PM
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