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I read stuff on this site every day that should be major news.

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A Muslim will give his life to go to hell. Without eternal life through Jesus, a Muslim has only this life. Next stop, eternal death.

saved on July 25, 2007 at 5:58 AM

I’ve been reading Dante’s Inferno recently. Were his recounting true, all those Suicide bombers will end up as tree stumps in Malgebolge, for those who voluntarily discarded their bodies are not given them back in the second coming.

bootheel on July 25, 2007 at 12:14 AM

A Christian will give his life to help send you to heaven.
A Muslim will give his life to help send you to hell.

I’ve been praying for them and encourage anybody reading this thread to do so as well.

I’m not saying this ‘civil war’ is going to start now, or in 10 years, or even 20 years. But I BET the minute that some redneck Christian in the south (Bible Belt) is woken up EVERY night by the blasting of a call to prayer due to their protection of ‘freedom of religion’, no spiked story is going to keep them from being upset. The story will definitely be the reaction from said redneck Christian at the imposition on his pursuit of happiness.

My best friend and his dad (a good man) were being harassed by a muezzin call to prayer. They went up to the man to confront him, a road up. He said it was his religious duty to sound it (despite the fact that he was the only Muslim in that area). My friend said okay, play your call to prayer and I’ll blast my Metallica CD at full volume during your prayer time. The man smiled and agreed to cut out the noise. A year later I read in the paper that man was arrested for connections to terrorism.

aengus, we are on the same page. I think I went over the top on a post or two. I don’t advocate violence, but I know my neighbors pretty good.

Fair enough. A certain amount of civil disorder is quite possible but a full-blown civil war does not seem likely in my opinion. I see the point you’re making: blowback from this war is always assumed to come from Muslims but nobody ever considers that citizens who are fed up with Muslim agression will provide some blowback of their own. Here in Ireland support for the IRA is more widespread than a lot of people want to admit. Some very good friends of mine have a weakness for the IRA even though they should know better.

I think this government AND MEDIA has an agenda that doesn’t necessarily fit AMERICAN culture. In other words, every culture is important to the media and government except AMERICAN culture.

I’m not saying this ‘civil war’ is going to start now, or in 10 years, or even 20 years. But I BET the minute that some redneck Christian in the south (Bible Belt) is woken up EVERY night by the blasting of a call to prayer due to their protection of ‘freedom of religion’, no spiked story is going to keep them from being upset. The story will definitely be the reaction from said redneck Christian at the imposition on his pursuit of happiness.

I don’t think it is a problem with the people of Islam, and I’m not advocating violence at all. I think there IS a problem with the ideology. AND I think that a major solution is the Gospel. They know ‘of’ Christ, they just don’t understand Him. They ‘love God’ and I appreciate their devotion to ‘God’, but the ideology of forcible world domination under the religious state of Islam has got to go.

There will be another civil war in America, and the media is going to be the last ones to know about it.

I don’t buy that for a second. Considering this civil war is somehow inevitable (according to you) could you give a more detailed explanation as to why this will occur?

They are a blight on humanity who should either reform or be wiped out.

I wouldn’t go that far myself. If they could be weakened and contained to the extent that they were during the period 1800-1960 (roughly) that would be fine. There’s no need to wipe them out. A friend of mine suggested the same thing and I asked him what about the 25 million Kurds who aren’t on a jihad against the West, or non-violent Sufis or ordinary folk who have no interest in killing anyone. Sorry to be so nuanced about it (paging John Kerry) but just because we are constantly being told that it’s a tiny minority of extremists doesn’t means that instead we’re facing 1.2 billion extremists.

dingbat on July 24, 2007 at 2:51 PM

I find nothing wrong with hating people who want to kill me because I don’t bow down to the religion of their warrior prophet. Their leaders chose their religion, it was a defective, backward, hateful one. They desiced to follow the dogma without a shred of mercy. Their religion indoctrinates children to kill themselves in the name of their warrior prophet and his vengeful God.

They are a blight on humanity who should either reform or be wiped out.

Prejudices in America are going to well up in SPITE OF the media attempts to downplay things like this. Eventually Americans with guns are going to develop prejudice BECAUSE OF incidents like this that the media refuse to cover and because the media refuse to cover it (of course they’ll cover any ‘backlash’ as major news).

ThackerAgency, I understand and agree with your meaning/intentions in this comment. However, I caution you in the use of the word Prejudice. If you mean outrage or anger, yes. Prejudice isn’t something you develop because of a story, and surely not because of the lack of a story, so your point could be misunderstood. Christians are accused far too often of being wrongly prejudiced as it is, it wouldn’t help to mistakenly add to that. Again, however, I appreciate your point, that outrage over spiked stories may eventually demand a response.

That South Korea doesn’t allow missionaries to legally go to a certain country means nothing to me. Government cannot control religious conscience. I know quite a few missionaries who are undercover in countries that would kill them for their presence. See the Scripture passages referred to by PRCCalDude at 1:21PM

How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

- Romans 10:14, 15

I will pay my vows unto the LORD now in the presence of all his people. Precious in the sight of the LORD is the death of his saints. O LORD, truly I am thy servant; I am thy servant, and the son of thine handmaid: thou hast loosed my bonds.

- Psalm 116:14-16

Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints; And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel, For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.

- Ephesians 6:10-20

This is Christianity in shoe leather, not the plastic-Jesus-on-the-dashboard version most would restrict us to.

I was completely unaware of the situation too, which is a sad commentary on both the media AND me, considering that I’m a news junkie.

Any chance Michelle can bring this up next time she hosts or guests on O’Reilly?

Prayers already said for the hostages.

Why doesn’t the media in America cover this? Publicizing attacks on Christians will only get in the way of the ongoing media effort to portray America as being the deplorable target of the righteous indignation of Islam. As far as the media is concerned, America should pay for its transgressions. America must pay – that is the media message. The true target of Islam – the destruction of Christianity – is irrelevant.

It isn’t the media’s job to make judgements on how the news they report will affect the population (I know they do it all the time, but it still doesn’t make it their job). Their job is to report the TRUTH
ThackerAgency on July 24, 2007 at 3:20 PM

What world do come from?

Just kidding…you are right, but it ain’t going to happen. Journalists don’t see the truth, they want to change the direction of the world. They want their beliefs to be read and adopted, that is what they see. The truth gets in the way, their belief in the truth is what is important what they think is the truth, and they will find the stories to support it.

Christians are in the way, and these Christians are loving, giving, faithful, in other words, they don’t fit the Christian profile as being as radical as Jihadists, therefore they are not important.

My Prayers for them.

Reasonable people sometimes have unreasonable ideas. There is nothing wrong with discussing varrying points of view. But if madne0 turns out to be a troll it will be revealed soon enough and the conversation will be over.

12thman on July 24, 2007 at 3:51 PM

Understood.