Hot Air reports that support for homicide bombers is dropping in the Mooselimb world.  Could finally accepting Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior be far behind?
I say no.  Sadly.  The terrorists are a tricky bunch.  And we all know what a terror…

The fact is that the only true and universal war crime is LOSING.

Like it or not the targeted killing of civilians is not a part of war. In fact, it is a war crime. (See, the Fourth Geneva Convention)

tommylotto on July 26, 2007 at 6:13 PM

Mutually Assured Destruction has been our stated defense strategy for decades. That strategy includes the incineration of every man, woman, child, and pet of the enemy. Are you still going to hold to the idea that we do not consider killing civilians to be part of war?

I would not have lost WWII, because the Fourth Convention would not have been adopted yet. So, I would still have fire bomb Dresden and nuked Japan. However, it sounds like you would get our troops today arraigned on war crimes charges.

Charges that are pressed by whom? Who enforces the 4th Geneva Conventions? …

You are not seriously going to claim that the nature of war changes because someone decides to put a rule book up – which we violate with our MAD strategy, along with many other normal operations of state?

However much I would like to “take the gloves off”, we cannot, because we are signators to the Conventions.

As I said, explain MAD in the context of the 4th Geneva Conventions.

But, if you think that things like 4th Geneva Conventions work, why not just amend them to make all war illegal? Problem solved.

Maybe we should amend the Conventions to take into consideration Islam’s de-centralized war against the West. Their nations sign on to the conventions, but then they support non-state groups that do not follow the conventions. They cheat. Once again its Taqiyya.

No. Just make war illegal. Why bother with anything less?

We have never followed the conventions, and neither has anyone else. They represent nothing but wishes that were wished after WWII. They are nothing but a dream without any attachment to reality – in same vein as those who called WWI “the war to end all wars”. Another nice thought that is totally divorced from reality.

I would not have lost WWII, because the Fourth Convention would not have been adopted yet. So, I would still have fire bomb Dresden and nuked Japan. However, it sounds like you would get our troops today arraigned on war crimes charges.

However much I would like to “take the gloves off”, we cannot, because we are signators to the Conventions.

Maybe we should amend the Conventions to take into consideration Islam’s de-centralized war against the West. Their nations sign on to the conventions, but then they support non-state groups that do not follow the conventions. They cheat. Once again its Taqiyya.

tommylotto on July 26, 2007 at 12:43 PM

Killing civilians, innocent or not, is part of war. If you don’t think so, then you would have lost WWII for us.

The point about muslim attitudes is whether they want to kill us, not their tactic of choice – and, quite frankly, it doesn’t matter if they want to kill our soldiers or our civilians, as either is an act of war against us and requires the same response.

As far as I am concerned, anyone who did not answer NEVER is a terrorist or terrorist sympathizer or supporter. The problem is I bet many of the Muslims that said Never are also in that category. Ever hear of “kitman” or “Taqiyya”.

Has anyone thought that this is on par with the abortion issue. They are aborting (blowing themselves up) in numbers that will not allow their word/work to proliferate.

If you see it back off and report it.

Just because we’re pro-American doesn’t mean it’s OK to bust on the whole country of Mexico

G. Charles on July 25, 2007 at 11:16 PM

I hadn’t been busting on Mexico (not in this thread, at least) but I think you may not have seen the point that 44% of the Mexicans viewed the US as the biggest threat to them. I’m not sure how that would rank on your respect-o-meter. If the real number is anything close to that …

Let’s keep America great by respecting other cultures and by not thinking we’re the only ones who can think our own culture/heritage is praiseworthy.

I don’t dole out respect just because something exists. I think that respect must be earned. I have not seen Mexico do anything to earn any sort of respect. They have demonstrated, so far as I have seen, nothing but an utter contempt for the US and our culture. We are not the ones screaming slurs about Mexicans in our sports stadiums … and beauty contests …

If we are bound to respect the Mexicans (which we are NOT), then the Mexicans should be bound 1000 x’s more tightly to having to respect us. But we know how Mexico and Mexicans treat the US, don’t we?

Reciprocity is the rule of fairness. When Mexico starts showing some respect to the US then I will begin to consider respecting Mexico, if they earn it. And not a second before.

As to Mexican culture, I don’t care for it. But that’s a matter of taste.

Because I’m a “build the fence first!” and “deport the criminals” kind of guy, I think there is greater temptation to real prejudice and that comes out in some of the above comments. Just because we’re pro-American doesn’t mean it’s OK to bust on the whole country of Mexico–that is foolish and small-minded, and sometimes even shameful. Let’s keep America great by respecting other cultures and by not thinking we’re the only ones who can think our own culture/heritage is praiseworthy.

They should have asked it with the two disclaimers if they wanted a SIGNIFICANT number.

#1 support for suicide bombing against muslims
#2 support for suicide bombing against non-muslims

I bet these numbers would show a startling contrast. THAT would be BAD news that Albright would not want to report. Instead, she used the civilian/military distinction.

I bet the actual question went something like this ‘you don’t really support suicide bombing to kill innocent muslims do you?’

nice poll taken to support a preconceived/misguided thesis.

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For example where is Saudi Arabia, all the -stan countries, India (which ain’t Muslim but with a billion people a wee bit are Muslim), Iran, the Sheik countries, Syria.

I mean all the countries listed in the Poll have good reason not to like suicide bombers, because their the ones getting blown up (save maybe Palestine which is why the percentage there is so high).

Furthermore Pakistan, Turkey, Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt… all of those countries have a great deal of Western influence in them.

If you take a look I believe you will find that it was the Moors and the Jews who were responsible for much of the intellectual progress that later took root in Western Europe – mostly but not exclusively in the sciences.

What makes you think so? No doubt that the Jewish Culture is particularly fascinated with education but the Moors? Are you sure? The Moors were around for a long time and you are sure that they all were dedicated to advancing knowledge? What role did the Greeks play? What role did the Romans play…??
The war is not about Palestinian Rights

This poll does not show a shift in opinion but rather is exploring different corners of the same rigid orthodox belief system. Muslims have not changed their mind about suicide bombings. They believe, as they always have, that such violence should be directed against infidels, not Muslims. It all boils down to Muslim bigotry: Dead infidels = good. Dead Muslims = bad.

And finally this one, which is predictable in the aggregate and shocking in the specific instance of which country it is that places highest for satisfaction. Exit question: Is that because all the people who are dissatisfied have already crossed the border and are living here now?

In attempting to understand Mexico’s results, it’s probably important to consider that, according to reports, Mexican immigrants send much of their earnings to their families in Mexico. If money helps make human beings feel satisfied, free money probably works better.