Not to say that his best is effective.

The progress on the ground (and there is a lot of it) has to be touted from the bully pulpit loudly and constantly by the administration in order to achieve victory in this thing.

Bush has done a great disservice to our men by not doing his part to win this war on the home front.

Dubya needs to address the nation in primetime with charts and graphs. We need visuals to “see” the progress we’ve made.

I only wish President Bush had been more vocal and informative from the very beginning. Many of us can see what he envisions, has told us briefly from time to time, a stable society in the Middle East that won’t allow criminals like AlQeada to exist, or at least be effective. Instead, he has allowed the opposition to frame the debate, and has been running behind trying to correct the record, very pitifully I might add.

If the public had been informed of everything going on from the beginning, aside from classified and need-to-know ops of course, good bad or otherwise, I think we might have a different situation now. I daresay Iraq would probably be much farther along in that vision.

And the moonbats would be considered the moonbats they are.

We. Have. To. Win. This. To walk away now would likely being total chaos to the region, and we and the civilized world will have decades of work to try to clean it up, at an exponetial rising cost of life and property.

Sorry, felt I had to rant!

Our best hope is to expose the motives of the loyal Democrats, and convert them.

Well – that logic looks sound but the chances of success are slim.

Screw em, and screw the for-profit ginormously rich oil companies. Pull out, now. Then pull out of every other Middle Eastern country we’re in and let em all have it out. In the meantime, we can secure and procure our oil needs from domestic supplys and other (currently) friendly providers

And how exactly, after screwing the oil companies, and with our current political climate towards new exploration, do you plan to sort out new sources of oil?

Thanks a whole bunch, Keller, you f*cking traitor! Why don’t you publish our entire order of battle, while you’re at it? Why don’t you publish Petraeus’ personal travel schedule as well?

I don’t know if General Petraeus will get the opportunity to implement any plan for 2008. I’m hoping that the current effort will be extremely successful (as it appears to be right now). I’m hoping that the uprising against Al Qaeda will be so vast that wavering Republicans will decide that cutting and running will destroy their political future, in the light of apparent victory.

It will take leadership, starting with Bush, and going right down through the Congressional Republicans, to blunt the Traitor Party’s attempt to surrender us to Al Qaeda.

It will take serious pressure on the MSM to start telling the truth about the victory in Iraq.

Bush is going to have to play VERY, VERY hard ball and not be afraid to eviscerate any, including Republicans, who get in his way.

Dems are not going to be able to ignore a bloodbath of their own making.

Why not? They have ignored every other bloodbath they have caused or abetted in the last 60 years.
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No longer do I know who is right and who is wrong about this latest ’strategery’ (other than knowing that the dems are completely wrong., that’s a given). All I know for sure is that AllahPundit and most of the rest of you have managed to seriously depress me.

Between now and Feb ‘08, there will be a lot of pressure to withdraw, but after the primaries are decided the game changes. Instead of kowtowing to their nutty base, Dems will begin the long pivot towards the center. If there is significant progress by then, their stances could moderate.

Finally, all this talk of plans nine months out is fine. If the withdrawal turns into a bloodbath, there will a worldwide call for a re-evaluation. Dems are not going to be able to ignore a bloodbath of their own making.

Why the Commander-in-Chief can’t see that right now, much less 4 years ago, I do not know. El President’ Boosh has lost me for good. I don’t trust him, at all. Nor do I trust his closest advisors, the “Bush Cabal”, if you will.

A preponderance of the Iraqi leaders don’t want us there. The same stands true for a preponderance of the leader(s) of all the other Middle Eastern countries if you look at all of them closely and see them for who they truly are. The Iraqi leaders would rather take a vacation for a month than attend to the situation at hand and deftly address those most urgent matters of life & death for their countrymen, and their country. They don’t care enough and they’re too archaic and childish in their ways to come together.

Screw em, and screw the for-profit ginormously rich oil companies. Pull out, now. Then pull out of every other Middle Eastern country we’re in and let em all have it out. In the meantime, we can secure and procure our oil needs from domestic supplys and other (currently) friendly providers. When the dust settles, we can examine what’s left of the Middle East and proceed from there.

I’m way past caring about the Middle East and it’s preponderance of truly barbaric savage inhabitants. God/Allah/Whomever/Whatever Bless that fraction of Middle Eastern inhabitants who have some semblence of sincere civility and are stuck in the cross-fire.

What they’re describing sounds too involved to be pro forma contingency planning but Petraeus and his team can’t seriously believe they’ll have a chance to put it into action with Republicans already itching for September to roll around so they can abandon ship.

Ah, Mr. Pundit, sir.

This is “the plan” for “the surge”, and it is working. What did you expect to be accomplished with “the surge”?

This was the new idea, all along; push in additional US troops and squeeze the gangster thugs out of the neighborhoods, and out of the cites, and provices. Protect the civilian population, those not involved in the violence, from those gangster thugs, and encourage the local tribal leaders to form a local governing council that would work with other local tribal leaders at the national level.

In this plan for “the surge” was the understood condition that it would not happen overnight, thus the 2008-2009 dates.

The democrats in congress, however, since November have concluded that the war is lost, and the troops have to be withdrawn from the battlefield, which has resulted in the assumption that the September progress report on “the plan” for “the surge” will be ignored by the Democrats, no matter what is reported, and the Democrats will demand troop reductions.

This is not a new, new plan, this is not a “continengency plan” this is what is going on now. In contrast, it was pointed out in the NYT article that Gen. Casey’s plan (or his instructions) were to let the Iraqi Army/police take over, so we could get out of Dodge. That plan didn’t work.

this will never be allowed to be implimented

Defector01 on July 24, 2007 at 1:17 AM

Maybe. Maybe not. All I can tell you is that in contractor world, there are some strange openings popping up. Strange considering that people in both parties are trying their worst to make us pull out yesterday. Some of them I’m sure can be simply be chalked up to ‘proceed as SNAFU until told different.’ Others I’ve seen on the job lists however, really make me wonder what that company knows that I don’t.

I think I like Petraeus’ plan better.

BTW thanks for the neat title- you do Kosovo posts in the same light?