Open thread: The CNN YouTube freak show debate; Update: Private jet show of hands video added; Update: Biden tells gun owner he “needs help”; Update: I’ll meet with Castro, Chavez, Ahmadinejad, says Obama

posted at 6:36 pm on July 23, 2007 by Allahpundit

7 p.m. ET. God help me, this one might actually be worth watching. So relentlessly and absurdly have they been hyping it that CBS’s Public Eye blogger had to resort to a Buckwheat analogy to explain it. Behold the cherry on top of the doofus sundae.

Given the inevitable leftwards tilt to the questions and her rock solid status as frontrunner, Hillary may be in for a rough night. Speaking of which, have a look at this post by Kos and consider the possibility that she’ll be attending Yearly Kos while skipping the upcoming annual DLC “national conversation.” Why is that significant? Because not only is the DLC the flagship centrist Democratic nonprofit group, not only did Kos vow last year to destroy it, but it’s been a key supporter of the Clintons dating back to Billy Jeff’s presidency — to the point where the Glacier herself is the current chair of the group’s Dream Initiative. She attended the “national conversation” in 2005 and 2006 and gave the keynote address in 2002 but as of this writing she’s still not listed as one of the speakers next week. If she skips it to please the nutroots it’ll be a total capitulation, a de facto admission that the hard left and not the center owns the party now. And I know a special lady whom I’ll be reminding of that fact at every opportunity.

Anyway. No “John Doe” rules here: if you’re watching and you see something that merits clipping, say something by sending us an e-mail. I leave you with Lonewacko‘s fearless predictions. Play along at home.

Q: How many video questions will feature people wearing masks? (My answer: 3)

Q: How many will feature either a puppet, a muppet, an animated character, or similar? (My answer: 1)

Q: What are the chances that my entry will be shown? (My answer: 1/infinity)

Q: How many questions will not be greeted with a sigh of relief by the candidates, as they go on to say “Good question!” followed by their standard stump speech? (My answer: none).

Update: They actually ran this crap.

Update: That’s a whole lotta hands.

Update: Greasy Joe shows his appreciation for the Second Amendment.

Update: Here’s a little something else for those “Republicans for Obama” to snack on. World Apology Tour ’08, baby.


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Ah, military intervention in Darfur but not Iraq. I was waiting for that.

JackStraw on July 23, 2007 at 7:42 PM

That’s a popular camp. Biden’s been there. Richardson’s been there. Kucinich was was there in a previous life, as a jazzy leopard on the hunt.

yo on July 23, 2007 at 7:42 PM

Still haven’t heard a single answer on any issue…….. if this were baseball, it’s a no hitter!

synycalwon on July 23, 2007 at 7:42 PM

‘a sense of global governance’- Mike Gravel.

Ron Paul’s head just exploded.

Drew on July 23, 2007 at 7:42 PM

how is dafur ok but iraq not

kara26 on July 23, 2007 at 7:43 PM

“Accelerate UN peacekeeping forces …” Hillary.

Of course. Those poor young women aren’t going to rape themselves.

yo on July 23, 2007 at 7:43 PM

If Anderson ambushed Silky on the gay marriage thing, he seemed to slither out of it without much harm, but if he catches any heat on it I’m sure Elizabeth can clean it up for him tommorrow.
This show rocks, I wish I had a TIVO.

Dork B. on July 23, 2007 at 7:43 PM

“Our responsibilities to the global form of government”?

Clinton’s against American soldiers in Darfur. Good answer…seriously.

amerpundit on July 23, 2007 at 7:43 PM

“seeing as how there are no proposals for complete withdrawl of u.s. troops from iraq, how soon after the onset of your administration can we expect a transition from our current “war for oil” policy to a “humanitarian support” mission, and will this require a material modification of the current surge strategy?”

jummy on July 23, 2007 at 7:43 PM

how is dafur ok but iraq not

kara26 on July 23, 2007 at 7:43 PM

you have to drink the kool aid first. then it all makes sense.

TexasDan on July 23, 2007 at 7:43 PM

hilary just saying we are loseing in afgan

kara26 on July 23, 2007 at 7:43 PM

stop clap you bastards

kara26 on July 23, 2007 at 7:44 PM

Oh, here we go with the troops…When will they be asked about “Killitary”?

amerpundit on July 23, 2007 at 7:44 PM

“(In Afghanistan) where we are loosing the fight to bin Laden and al Qaeda”-Hillary Clinton

Really? bin Laden and AQ are winning in Afghanistan? What world do they live in?

Drew on July 23, 2007 at 7:44 PM

the only thing “jazzy” about Kucinich is his wife.

Sammy316 on July 23, 2007 at 7:45 PM

Yahooo! Troops and nation building in the Sudan! Let’s vote Democrat!

jaime on July 23, 2007 at 7:45 PM

Of course. Those poor young women aren’t going to rape themselves.

yo on July 23, 2007 at 7:43 PM

i wish that joke didn’t have so much truth to it

jummy on July 23, 2007 at 7:45 PM

Nows we support our troops, before we abandon them

Stinking traitors

Dersu on July 23, 2007 at 7:45 PM

do they know why they are clapping?

TexasDan on July 23, 2007 at 7:45 PM

yo on July 23, 2007 at 7:43 PM

Bringing the funny tonight.

JackStraw on July 23, 2007 at 7:45 PM

How do we get out now???

Now we’ll see them dance.

ctmom on July 23, 2007 at 7:46 PM

“We can be as careless getting out, as we were going in.” Good idea.

amerpundit on July 23, 2007 at 7:46 PM

oooooh. We created the sectarian violence. Bit unclear on the concept are we, obama?

TexasDan on July 23, 2007 at 7:46 PM

“Diplomatic surge”

Now, THAT is f’in’ hilarious.

yo on July 23, 2007 at 7:47 PM

How do we get out now?

Oh, this should be good!…….

synycalwon on July 23, 2007 at 7:47 PM

Interesting answer from Biden.

amerpundit on July 23, 2007 at 7:47 PM

I am sure Iraqis are happy to hear Joe Biden has a plan for their country…he’s the friggin’ James Madison of Iraq.

Drew on July 23, 2007 at 7:47 PM

Biden proposes partition?

TexasDan on July 23, 2007 at 7:48 PM

Obama…

Phased withdrawal

bash bush

general blathering

csdeven on July 23, 2007 at 7:48 PM

Screw this. I am switching to the Red Sox-Tribe game on The Deuce.

basically every leftoid pandering, bush hating meme we thought would be given prominence has been. Where are the TOUGH question??? Oh wait. sorry, those are for the GOP debates.

Yawn.

Mike D. on July 23, 2007 at 7:48 PM

The 2006 election was a mandate to get out of Iraq but the Democrats are politically afraid to do it.

How does that make sense?

Drew on July 23, 2007 at 7:49 PM

VRWC spin machine.

The Iraqi’s fail to take charge?

Clinton is a dope.

csdeven on July 23, 2007 at 7:49 PM

“diplomatic surge”

Like from the UN? Like they’ve done in North Korea, Iran, Darfur, and previously Iraq under Saddam? Oh, that all went well.

Nice jab by Anderson on the 7 months and nothing done thing.

amerpundit on July 23, 2007 at 7:50 PM

Dennis is the only honest fool up there

Dersu on July 23, 2007 at 7:50 PM

The reparations question seems to have touched a nerve even with CNN’s commenters.

Big S on July 23, 2007 at 7:51 PM

Dodd wants to try to manipulate the Iraqis with a threat? What if the Iraqis don’t blink?

Fool.

csdeven on July 23, 2007 at 7:52 PM

they asked these questions in the wrong order. Get ‘em all on the table to bring the troops home, then hit them with the aftermath question.

TexasDan on July 23, 2007 at 7:52 PM

They sandbagged Gravel.

csdeven on July 23, 2007 at 7:53 PM

When did the ’06 election become a referendum on the war? None of those ninnies even ran on the war, yet now it’s constantly asserted that the Dem victories were because they promised to end the war.

Are all these people delusional, or am I the one? Either way, I really need to know.

Kensington on July 23, 2007 at 7:53 PM

If you can get a Baskin Robins in Vietnam …, sounds like a capitalistic victory to me.

yo on July 23, 2007 at 7:53 PM

Who is this John Mike Gravel keeps talking to? His invisible friend?

Oh, and he’s a shit who should be kicked off the stage.

Drew on July 23, 2007 at 7:53 PM

“Withdraw withing 6 months”. And how do you intend do that Mr. Richardson? And you’ll accept full blame for any genocide?

amerpundit on July 23, 2007 at 7:53 PM

eat their own is starting…….

ctmom on July 23, 2007 at 7:54 PM

I have to hand it to Kucinich. He completely calls his own party on their b.s. regarding getting the troops home – if they’re so friggin’ concerned about getting the troops home from a so-called failed war, just cut the funding….

Dork B. on July 23, 2007 at 7:54 PM

Point for Silky. The troops NEVER die in vain.

csdeven on July 23, 2007 at 7:55 PM

so, obama is going to have a crystal ball for making all his decisions. how cool is that? You’ll know exactly how to end it before you begin. and everything will always go according to plan.

TexasDan on July 23, 2007 at 7:55 PM

Breck girl always knows what the real question is.

Bash Bush some more

Dersu on July 23, 2007 at 7:55 PM

Kucinich has nothing to loose.

yo on July 23, 2007 at 7:56 PM

How about WINNING the war!!!!! Not stopping the war!

synycalwon on July 23, 2007 at 7:56 PM

so edwards, when you’re president, you’ll put pressure on bush?

TexasDan on July 23, 2007 at 7:56 PM

So Edwards doesn’t believe Presidents should take vacation?

ctmom on July 23, 2007 at 7:56 PM

I actually agree with Biden on the partition issue. Decentralize the government into three separate but equal states where HUMAN RIGHTS are recognized.

In the USA our federal government wasn’t supposed to be that strong either. Set up the different states like we have here in the USA. California has different laws than say Texas, and it works well that way even though we are the same nation.

That is the practical democratic solution. Representative democracy with decentralized power into three states with a weaker federal government controlling the military and distribution of oil revenues.

That sounds good to me.

ThackerAgency on July 23, 2007 at 7:56 PM

One last shot before I have to tear myself away from this train wreck:

Does Hillary’s ass just look friggin’ enormous?!

yo on July 23, 2007 at 7:57 PM

Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader is coming on right now. They ought to toss some of those questions to these clowns on CNN.

RW_theoriginal on July 23, 2007 at 7:57 PM

I like the idea of shared service with no deferment.

csdeven on July 23, 2007 at 7:57 PM

“We need a way for every American to serve”…Chris, it’s called volunteering, we don’t need government programs for everything.

Drew on July 23, 2007 at 7:57 PM

Why do the Cadets look bored out of their mind?

amerpundit on July 23, 2007 at 7:57 PM

Chris, it’s called volunteering, we don’t need government programs for everything.

Drew on July 23, 2007 at 7:57 PM

seconded

TexasDan on July 23, 2007 at 7:58 PM

Mike Gravel is clearly insane. Why is he out without a keeper let alone running for president?

JackStraw on July 23, 2007 at 8:00 PM

That lady Fighter Pilot with Elizabeth is a beauty.

Dork B. on July 23, 2007 at 8:00 PM

Hey, they took Pelosi seriously in Syria, right?

TexasDan on July 23, 2007 at 8:01 PM

According to Muslims, as first Lady, you stupid broad, you are in your place. As the president you are not in your “place”.

csdeven on July 23, 2007 at 8:01 PM

that was a really dumb question. Several muslim states have had women presidents. Pakistan and Indoneisa. Others?

TexasDan on July 23, 2007 at 8:02 PM

Comparing the Soviet Union to terrorist states is completely asinine!

csdeven on July 23, 2007 at 8:03 PM

ooh. a double reagan/jfk reference.

TexasDan on July 23, 2007 at 8:03 PM

Sure, let’s meet with Chavez, Ahmadenijad, Kim Jong-Il, Assad, et all. Sounds fun. Like one big Jew-bashing fest.

amerpundit on July 23, 2007 at 8:03 PM

That question to Hillary! was fairly insulting. There’s tons of reasons not to vote for her but what the leaders of misogynistic thugs in Muslim cease pools might think isn’t one of them.

Drew on July 23, 2007 at 8:03 PM

Nice answer by Hillary.

amerpundit on July 23, 2007 at 8:03 PM

Is this Dancing with the Stars? or a Presidential debate?

synycalwon on July 23, 2007 at 8:03 PM

OH, a job for Billy Boy.

Dersu on July 23, 2007 at 8:04 PM

right. letting them know that the cookie jar will be available to them will make them striaghten right up and act nice. They’ll start taking the rights of Iraqi citizens to heart. Obozo

TexasDan on July 23, 2007 at 8:04 PM

Ooh, she’s getting into it now. “We’re not just going to have our President meet with Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, the leaders of North Korea, Iran and Syria”.

amerpundit on July 23, 2007 at 8:04 PM

I give Hillary credit. That was a sane answer with little pandering.

JackStraw on July 23, 2007 at 8:04 PM

Democrats: “If we just talk to (outside) “PRAISE ALLAH! DEATH TO AMERICA!”

Democrats: “If we just talk to…”

BKennedy on July 23, 2007 at 8:04 PM

Hillary! sounding more manly and sensible than the Messiah and Silky.

Drew on July 23, 2007 at 8:04 PM

“We need a way for every American to serve”…Chris, it’s called volunteering, we don’t need government programs for everything.

Drew on July 23, 2007 at 7:57 PM

I agree. Also, the kind of service he likely has in mind might not be the best way for everyone to contribute. For instance, if one were to devote all of one’s time to the study of medicine or something like that, might that be more constructive than spending two years in mandatory service to the government? The best solution is to identify what’s needed and either pay people to do it, or find some sort of non-salary incentives (tax cuts, hint hint) that will get people to make that choice on their own.

Big S on July 23, 2007 at 8:05 PM

Silky, doncha think sending in our military to knock in the head of a dictator lets other nations know what we’re all about pretty damn effectively?

TexasDan on July 23, 2007 at 8:06 PM

Richardson: “We must remove any and all influence and leverage we have over Iran before we talk with them. Otherwise we won’t get anywhere.”

BKennedy on July 23, 2007 at 8:08 PM

Why’d they hold this thing at The Shitadel anyway? Was that some lame attempt at appearing strong on defense?

John from OPFOR on July 23, 2007 at 8:08 PM

Ooh, Biden’s striking them. “You better have helicopters to take out the civilians, or let them die.”

amerpundit on July 23, 2007 at 8:08 PM

I’m jonesin’ for a far, hard left moonbat question…

Dork B. on July 23, 2007 at 8:08 PM

ouch! Biden is on fire!

ctmom on July 23, 2007 at 8:08 PM

Boy, is Richardson pandering to the nutroots big time.

synycalwon on July 23, 2007 at 8:09 PM

I love Biden when he pushes the MRAP funding .

csdeven on July 23, 2007 at 8:09 PM

just because they don’t want to tell you about it, Hillary, doesn’t mean they aren’t. Maybe they just don’t want to see it on the front page of the NYT.

ctmom on July 23, 2007 at 8:10 PM

You don’t plan for withdrawal while you at war!!!!!!!!

synycalwon on July 23, 2007 at 8:10 PM

Hillary, of course they’re planning to withdraw. the only safe, orderly withdrawal will be a)unannounced and b)after some semblance of security has been established in the region

TexasDan on July 23, 2007 at 8:10 PM

Hillary! is still outraged that we aren’t planning to surrender while still fighting.

Biden is wrong but at least he’s sane unlike Dennis Kucinich.

Did Kucinich just say he had a plan to get out of Iraq 4 years ago? Surrender early and often!

Drew on July 23, 2007 at 8:10 PM

I’m a little behind, but I was glad to see the “how do we pull out now?” question. I noticed it at Youtube last night after Allah posted his favorites/least favorites, and hoped they would select it.

Big S on July 23, 2007 at 8:11 PM

Kucinich: “The hell if I’m gonna deal with this war.”

Did I just see Gravel’s Ad say the WoT should be a Police Action?

If any one of these dunderheads get elected we’re all royally screwed.

BKennedy on July 23, 2007 at 8:11 PM

Korea was called a “police action”.

My dad called it a war.

Euphemisms.

Sammy316 on July 23, 2007 at 8:12 PM

Don’t screw with Dennis on the Peace issue, he will rip your heart out of your chest and hit you with it as you fall to the floor.

Dork B. on July 23, 2007 at 8:12 PM

how do we pull out now?”

Sounds like a double entendre question. Maybe himllary knows the answer ?

William Amos on July 23, 2007 at 8:12 PM

Lord. I. had. to. turn. it. off.

BTW, KP and the Boss are on O’Reilly next.

BacaDog on July 23, 2007 at 8:13 PM

Darn, I missed the first hour The TV guide schedule was wrong.

What’s that rash on Edward’s neck? Or just a bad makeup job… But that can’t be. Edwards is the greatest expert on makeup on the stage.

From what I have seen so far, Hillary sounds the most rational and patriotic of the bunch. How scary is that.

So…. A YouTube campaign commercial for Gravel himself is played as part of the debate. Whew. Are they doing that for all of the candidates?

LegendHasIt on July 23, 2007 at 8:13 PM

That just shows you how out of touch the dem voter is. They think they have a constitutional right to know every step the military makes or will make.

Liberalism is certainly a psychological disorder.

csdeven on July 23, 2007 at 8:13 PM

Are they doing that for all of the candidates?

yes

TexasDan on July 23, 2007 at 8:14 PM

Liberalism is certainly a psychological disorder threat to freedom.

csdeven on July 23, 2007 at 8:13 PM

There, fixed it for you.

BacaDog on July 23, 2007 at 8:15 PM

Oh, I guess they ARE playing campaign commercials as part of the program.

LegendHasIt on July 23, 2007 at 8:15 PM

Who is your favorite teacher? Who will be the first to say Ghandi or something?

Drew on July 23, 2007 at 8:16 PM

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