Jail time for UK Mohammed cartoon protestors
posted at 11:30 am on July 18, 2007 by Bryan
Six years and four years. Deportation ought to follow, but it won’t. You have to read deep into the Beeb’s account to find out that they weren’t jailed for “protesting,” but for inciting murder.
Four men have been jailed for their part in protests outside the Danish embassy in London, against cartoons satirising the Prophet Muhammad.
Mizanur Rahman, 24, Umran Javed, 27, and Abdul Muhid, 24, were each jailed for six years for soliciting to murder after telling a crowd to bomb the UK.
A fourth man, Abdul Saleem, 32, was jailed for four years for stirring up racial hatred at the protest in 2006.
The men, from London and Birmingham, were convicted at the Old Bailey.
Judge Brian Barker said their words had been designed to encourage murder and terrorism.
Their very justifiable prison time is already a cause celebre.
Outside the sentencing hearing, a group of around 40 demonstrators waved placards with slogans including “Muslims Under Siege”.
Over/under on how long it takes some group of miscreants to stage an attack on the prison to free these guys?
Just to get it into the record here, here’s what earned them prison time:
Rahman, from Palmers Green, north London, was filmed at the rally talking over a loudspeaker and calling for UK soldiers to be brought back from Iraq in body bags.
He said: “We want to see their blood running in the streets of Baghdad.
“We want to see the Mujahideen shoot down their planes the way we shoot down birds. We want to see their tanks burn in the way we burn their flags.”
Javed, from Birmingham, was filmed by police shouting: “Bomb, bomb Denmark. Bomb, bomb USA.”
Father-of-five and BT engineer Saleem was cleared of soliciting murder at his trial in February, but convicted of stirring up racial hatred.
Saleem, from Poplar, east London, chanted, “7/7 on its way” and “Europe, you will pay with your blood”.
Finally, Abdul Muhid, 24, said to be the leader of the demonstration, chanted “Bomb, bomb the UK” and waved placards with slogans such as “Annihilate those who insult Islam”.
I found this story on Jihad Watch, which notes how the Beeb treats its references to Mohammed.
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Well at least America isnt the only place where sick bastards in the media think they know what is best for the rest of the world.
doriangrey on July 18, 2007 at 11:46 AM
This report will hopefully become very common and sentencing these hateful people is just, and past due.
There seems to be no end to the ‘youths’ and ‘offenders’. ( i.e. islamofascist terrorists)
shooter on July 18, 2007 at 11:49 AM
Prison time huh?…whats the new chant gonna be “Hey hey I’m not gay, please no I don’t like it that way!”
EnochCain on July 18, 2007 at 11:52 AM
The Koran is not clear as to whether the 72 virgins are female or male.
JiangxiDad on July 18, 2007 at 11:54 AM
I doubt it. They’ll go after civilian targets for attack, a prison is out of their league.
Bad Candy on July 18, 2007 at 11:54 AM
Jere’s candidate for Quote of the day
Alas he’s not talking about their news coverage, but rather phone in games
http://tinyurl.com/ywu48f
tmitsss on July 18, 2007 at 11:56 AM
deport them to where?
zane on July 18, 2007 at 11:57 AM
Bryan,
I am somewhat surprised that these miscreants-haters-blood thirsty thugs were actually prosecuted at all.
I also won’t expect them to actually serve their full sentence in prison. Whether it is the result of protests, or Parliament writing some bill which would retroactively release them and make their actions protected under the law, or whether surrendering to outrage by leftists, Muslims, and even to Jihadi threats of violence, I expect these thugs free and reenacting their rant in short order.
I also expect them to be made out to be folk heroes, poster boys for “The Religion of Peace,” for justice, for freedom, and as a thumb in the eye for the Great Satan and her minions, the little Satans, such as Great Britain, Europe, Australia, and the West.
William
William2006 on July 18, 2007 at 11:57 AM
Good! More of this please
Keli on July 18, 2007 at 12:01 PM
Some imams talk about having homosexual sex in heaven with boys. R. Spencer covers it in his book about Islam. No foolin’.
Hey, why make ‘em wait!
Mojave Mark on July 18, 2007 at 12:01 PM
The center of an active volcano.
Mars on the next Mars probe, with a one way ticket to the planet’s surface, armed with their prayer rugs, their Q’ran, and their hatred.
Alpha Centuri.
The middle of a shark infested area in the Pacific.
Right smack in the middle of Antartica, armed, again, with their paryer rugs, their Q’ran, and their hatred.
Bill Maher’s mansion.
Nancy Pelosi’s headquarters.
Harry Reid’s headquarters.
Michael Moore’s home.
Just a few ideas.
William
William2006 on July 18, 2007 at 12:01 PM
Repatriate them to a Muslim paradise.
Why waste money feeding these crocodiles?
Parachute them into Darfur on the wrong side.
This “waste the infidels treasure through legal harassment” is a tactic of the slo-mo jihad.
To bankrupt us with lawsuits if they cannot do it through overbreeding on the dole.
Deport them or execute them.
Don’t feed the maniacs.
profitsbeard on July 18, 2007 at 12:03 PM
At the risk of getting thrown off of here. I’m just gonna say what I feel, The ONLY way to end this crap with the Muslim extremists. is….
A MASSIVE DEPORTATION OF ALL MUSLIMS!
Last time I checked, this was a Christian nation, founded on Christian Principles, and not on Muslim Principles. You wanna worship allah, go do it in your homeland.
Now watch Michelle and Bryan throw me off of here. The cowards.
-Chuck
Chuck in Detroit on July 18, 2007 at 12:03 PM
Homosexual behavior is now raised to the level of sainthood in the United States of America, so Muslims who wish to engage in homosexual behavior are actually good, while the US, and heterosexuals, especially heterosexual males, especially Christians and Jews, let alone those heathen, idolaters, the Hindus, are bad and justly targeted by “The Religion of Peace.”
/sarcasm off.
William
William2006 on July 18, 2007 at 12:05 PM
To the Crapistans their families came from. They wouldn’t survive there a minute. No playstations, McDonalds, pizza with pepperoni, A/C etc. These homegrown euro-designermuslims are nothing without a western platform to shout from.
JiangxiDad on July 18, 2007 at 12:11 PM
excecute them for what crime?
what country would take them? they are british citizens. Here in the UK the British National Party have repatriation of Muslims (and others) to their home countries, or to a country of their chosing, but i dont know why any other nation would be obliged to take them.
zane on July 18, 2007 at 12:14 PM
Don’t really think its the behavior that’s worshiped per se. It’s the minority/victim status the Dems. love. The Dem’s aren’t a minority party, but a party of minorities. No one who self-identifies as American first is welcome.
Start a group of people who eat ice-cream through their ears, and the Dem’s will welcome them with open-arms.
JiangxiDad on July 18, 2007 at 12:15 PM
that should read the British National Partyy have it as part of their manifesto.
zane on July 18, 2007 at 12:16 PM
The UK is, at some point, going to have to revamp it’s policy toward it’s Muslim population and put aside their current politically correct stance. These insane attacks are becoming the “thing to do” with the UK’s Muslim young people, more than just a few apparently. I wonder if it could happen here. We are much larger and vastly more diverse. Will this make a diference?
jeanie on July 18, 2007 at 12:18 PM
Love this story. Bout time.
Zach on July 18, 2007 at 12:22 PM
If they’re radical Islamists, they will be welcomed with open arms by the NY Times, Dem. Party, MSM, etc. Their small numbers will be belied by their out-sized influence in the media.
JiangxiDad on July 18, 2007 at 12:22 PM
Like CAIR
JiangxiDad on July 18, 2007 at 12:23 PM
I don’t care who takes them, strip them of the citizenship and send them back to Arab-land… with the rest of them. I’m sick of these idiots ruining my country, let them go ruin Iraq or somewhere else. get them out of the US and UK. They’re not Civilized Human Beings, never have been. We should realize that and revoke citizenship and deport them all.
Chuck in Detroit on July 18, 2007 at 12:28 PM
Chuck in Detroit on July 18, 2007 at 12:03 PM
The only problem with that is where are you going to deport those who are already US citizens??
jdawg on July 18, 2007 at 12:29 PM
i dont know why any other nation would be obliged to take them.
zane on July 18, 2007 at 12:14 PM
You have just nailed a huge part of the problem.
RushBaby on July 18, 2007 at 12:29 PM
zane-
I didn’t mean to execute these small fish, but to use that for the successful terrorists caught during or after their crimes. (Glasgow, etc.)
Deport these smaller fry for sedition, by their calls for terrorism.
Allowing this slo-mo invasion, infiltration and erosion of our infidel nations to go on -out of a blindness to their procalimed violent goals- is suicidal silliness on our part.
They’re serious; we’re not.
Yet.
profitsbeard on July 18, 2007 at 12:29 PM
How far will the British prison bend over to accomdate them and their silly prayers? I’m scared to find out.
SouthernGent on July 18, 2007 at 12:32 PM
ok that makes more sense! i am kinda anti DP but i can see the justification for terrorists who commit mass murder.
zane on July 18, 2007 at 12:32 PM
I’ve heard that the majority of the Arabs in Michigan are Christians. Any truth to that?
i dont know why any other nation would be obliged to take them.
zane on July 18, 2007 at 12:14 PM
You have just nailed a huge part of the problem.
RushBaby on July 18, 2007 at 12:29
JiangxiDad on July 18, 2007 at 12:33 PM
Here’s another version of the same story from the Beeb that EU Referendum linked to. Check out the headline:
forest on July 18, 2007 at 12:33 PM
Give them their own land.
There’s some prime real estate unclaimed in the Marianas Trench.
Declare it “Crapistan”. And send them there.
(I’ll spring for their snorkels.)
profitsbeard on July 18, 2007 at 12:34 PM
sorry, screwed that up
JiangxiDad on July 18, 2007 at 12:34 PM
I don’t like the “race hate” charges. The threats had nothing to do with race. Sedition would be more appropriate.
forest on July 18, 2007 at 12:43 PM
the reason for the race hate charges i believe is because of comments made about Jews, in britain race hate legislation recognizes two groups as a race, whos religion is integral, these are Jews and Sikhs.
zane on July 18, 2007 at 12:46 PM
Yes, That is true. I wanted to be clear on that too. I don’t wish that all Arabs be tossed out of the country. There are some here, that don’t Pratice that Religion. and I’ve met some of them. But that one’s that do, toss ‘em out. I mean, how the heck arewe supposed to know if they’re redical or not? take their word for it? Yeah, right….
I guess this is what we get for being so open to people of other cultures. The muslims and terrorist took full advantage of that. and now, we’re paying for it.
Chuck in Detroit on July 18, 2007 at 12:47 PM
I didn’t notice any threats directed specifically at Jews, but good enough, keep all the charges and tack on sedition as well.
forest on July 18, 2007 at 12:48 PM
zane-
I like the 19th century French thinker Alphone Karr who agreed that the death penalty was a terrible thing, and he suggested a solution:
“If we want to abolish the death penalty, let our friends the murders take the first step.”“.
profitsbeard on July 18, 2007 at 12:50 PM
They should pray for deportation, seeing what happened to Dhiren Barot recently.
awake on July 18, 2007 at 12:56 PM
Like Spencer, I’ve also noticed for quite some time that the accepted nomenclature of the MSN is “The Prophet Muhammad”. Not “The Islamic prophet Muhammad”, or simply “Muhammad”.
I’m wondering when they’re going to begin exclusively using “The Messiah Jesus”?
KGB on July 18, 2007 at 1:03 PM
As far as deporting these slugs I have a perfect location. About 1000 miles west of California in the middle of the Pacific Ocean… Oh make sure you give them their Qu’rans
MNDavenotPC on July 18, 2007 at 1:03 PM
It will be interesting to see if the convictions hold. Here, the Islamic Thinkers Society, which claims to be non-violent, shows up in a lot of YouTube videos (Google it!)dancing around – and in my opinion crossing – the line between speech and incitement. Unfortunately, it will probably take further domestic terrorism for American authorities to actually enforce that line.
And Chuck in Detroit, insulting the hosts is an unpopular activity around here, and I – for one – would be perfectly happy if your stay was a short one.
eeyore on July 18, 2007 at 1:03 PM
Is there any connection between CAIR and the Islamic Thinkers Society?.. I ask because I agree with eeyore that American authorities will be slow to react. If there is a connection it would only point to a universal organization
MNDavenotPC on July 18, 2007 at 1:07 PM
Interesting link found at Jihad Watch:
Online petition to ban the Qur’an
Connie on July 18, 2007 at 1:21 PM
There really doesn’t have to be any actual connection. The Islamic Thinkers Society wants to see a return to a worldwide Khilafah (Caliphate), but of course in a “non-violent” way. CAIR’s Ibrahim Hooper says he “would…like the government of the United States to be Islamic”. So there isn’t necessarily a “universal organization”, but certainly a universal intent among many, and with teh Interwebs, actual organizational needs are minimal, but disparate groups and individuals can share support – moral or operational – to whatever degree works for them.
eeyore on July 18, 2007 at 2:03 PM
While it is good to see the UK government prosecute and incarcerate these men, I fear that the punishment isn’t sufficient for the crime the were convicted of.
THEIR KIND advocates beheading all who offend Islam.
I say, apply the punishment they advocate to them as well.
After all, it isn’t as if England never used that form of punishment in the past.
It’d be cheaper than sending them off to 4 or 6 years of prison sanctioned sodomy.
georgej on July 18, 2007 at 2:45 PM
so are we going to video tape everything and everyone and when someone says soemthing we don’t like, we’ll lock them up for 6 years? no… they won’t be even more pissed off when they get out will they?
Kaptain Amerika on July 18, 2007 at 4:15 PM
“don’t like”? No. There are lots of things people say that many “don’t like” but don’t warrant imprisonment – like “I think all home designers are the offspring of apes and pigs…” But how would you feel if there was a group in Springfield who, every time you walked down the street, screamed “There’s a designer! Kill him! All designers deserve to die!…”, and this group had a history of killing designers and working to rid the world of designers? Would that make any difference to you?
And, you know, many people who get out of prison are even more pissed off than when they went in – murderers, rapists, etc. Should we avoid imprisoning them just because it might make ‘em mad?
eeyore on July 18, 2007 at 4:46 PM
So, will they get laptops too?
boomer on July 18, 2007 at 8:21 PM
What country would take them? That is why we need to own a crapastan of our own, say Afghanistan. In exchange for material and financial support, we have the right to dump our garbage over there.
jihadwatcher on July 18, 2007 at 9:55 PM
Either you get an amendment passed to revoke it or you declare war on Islam and those who don’t renounce get locked up/exiled.
Tim Burton on July 19, 2007 at 2:03 AM