Scary isn’t it. When will Minnesota declare sharia law?

Kini on July 16, 2007 at 11:27 PM

Keith
Ellison encourages crowd to push for justice: “Allahu akbar” was the reply of many in the crowd

MB4 on July 17, 2007 at 8:42 AM

Disgusting.

sublime on July 17, 2007 at 8:57 AM

The time is almost at hand where we will be forced by those that think Islam is a peaceful religion to take drastic action in order to preserve our freedom. Everyone better be getting ready.

Kowboy on July 17, 2007 at 9:08 AM

Thank You Mr. Spenser for another fine report.

So, if Rep. Ellison (D) thinks 9-11 was akin to the Reichstag fire, then wait until we have our version of the Night of the Long Knives. I just wonder who will be carrying the knives. And then there is Krystal Nacht. Who does he suppose will carry out that scenario? Hmmmm.

JohnnyD on July 17, 2007 at 9:25 AM

Good job, Robert. Here is an excellent article by Walid Phares.

Preventing the West from Understanding Jihad

Connie on July 17, 2007 at 9:39 AM

We are watching the end of the world and this (a crowd yelling “alla akbar!!” in support of a US congressman) is just the latest sign of it. It sickens me. And believe me, this government is not going to protect us when the s**t hits the fan-that’s going to be up to us…

JWS on July 17, 2007 at 9:40 AM

We are watching the end of the world and this (a crowd yelling “alla akbar!!” in support of a US congressman) is just the latest sign of it. It sickens me. And believe me, this government is not going to protect us when the s**t hits the fan-that’s going to be up to us…

JWS on July 17, 2007 at 9:40 AM

Truer words have never been spoken.

TheSitRep on July 17, 2007 at 9:50 AM

Patrick Henry: “It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship.”

Samuel Adams: The Rights of the Colonists 1772, “The rights of the colonists as Christians…may be best understood by reading and carefully studying the institution of the Great Law Giver and Head of the Christian Church, which are to be found clearly written and promulgated in the New Testament.”

FRAME OF GOVERNMENT, PENNSYLVANIA, (1682)
to develop “…laws as shall best preserve true Christian and civil liberty in opposition to all unchristian licentious and unjust practices, whereby God may have His due, Caesar his due, and the people their due..” by William Penn. Note the influence of “render to Caesar” from the bible.

MASSACHUSETTS BODY OF LIBERTIES, (1641)
“The free fruition of such liberties, immunities and privileges as humanity, civility and Christianity call for as due to every man in his place and proportion without impeachment and infringement hath ever been and ever will be the tranquility and stability of churches and commonwealths.” This provided for protection of life, liberty, property, and reputation. Life, property, and reputation, come from the influence of the Ten Commandments, and were understood to begin with conscience and God given rights.

Samuel Chase: signer of the Declaration of Independence, Justice of the US Supreme Court, and Chief Justice of the State of Maryland, 1799 ( Runkel v Winemiller): “By our form of government, the Christian religion is the established religion… .”

Nathaniel Freeman: 1802 charged “The laws of the Christian system, as embraced by the Bible, must be respected as of high authority in all our courts… . [Our government] originating in the voluntary compact of a people who in that very instrument profess the Christian religion, it may be considered, not as republic Rome was, a Pagan, but a Christian republic.”

John Quincy Adams “From the day of the Declaration…they [the American people] were bound by the laws of God, which they all, and by the laws of The Gospel, which they nearly all, acknowledge as the rules of their conduct”

John Jay : Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court, “Providence has given to our people the choice of their ruler, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.”

Justice Joseph Story: US Supreme Court 1829, “The real object of the First Amendment was not to countenance, much less to advance Mohammedanism, or Judaism, or infidelity, by prostrating Christianity, but to exclude all rivalry among Christian sects and to prevent any national ecclesiastical patronage of the national government”.

John Adams: “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government or any other.”

Thomas Jefferson: “The reason that Christianity is the best friend of government is because Christianity is the only religion that changes the heart.”

James Madison: “The future and success of America is not in this Constitution but in the laws of God(certainly not Sharia law) upon which this Constitution is founded.”

And on and on and on…

Why have we allowed the liberal Godless minded to destroy us?

NRA4Freedom on July 17, 2007 at 10:07 AM

Minnesota deserves exactly what it gets! Idiots!

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on July 17, 2007 at 9:06 AM

Hey, now. Ellison was voted in by Minneapolis, not the entirety of Minnesota. Unfortunately, they don’t make that distinction when they identify him: “Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN).” Those of us with common sense and foresight knew he’d be an embarrassment to Minnesota just like every other Democrat from here: e.g. Wellstone, Mondale, Wetterling (who lost, thankfully) and Franken (who will lose, thankfully).

Personally, I just can’t figure out why he would be speaking to atheists and why atheists would let him speak to them. Muslims and atheists are like oil and water.

JinxMcHue on July 17, 2007 at 10:11 AM

God I miss Jihad Watch’s videos on HotAir.

KCtheKat on July 17, 2007 at 10:21 AM

We already are. Muslim taxi drivers won the right to ban liquor and pork (and probably whatever they want) from being carried in their cabs.

Grafted on July 17, 2007 at 9:52 AM

No one is forcing them to drive cabs, they should not be allowed to dicate what or soon whom they are hired to transport. When will the the lunacy stop.

kathleen on July 17, 2007 at 10:25 AM

Americans better get familiar with the concept of Taqiyyah, since we’re being fed a steady diet of it from sources like Ellison and CAIR.

infidel4life on July 17, 2007 at 10:33 AM

i would love to know what you people who make statements by this really mean…why not just be open instead of cryptic? are you saying at some point american muslims like keith ellison will have to be interred? deported?( to where?) and if theyt refused to leave what are you saying should be done? is the drastic measure you mention preparing to take up arms against the muslims in america??

zane on July 17, 2007 at 10:26 AM

Ok, here ya go.

My grandfather told me that there would be another Civil War in this country. He said not in his lifetime(And he was right), but probably in mine. The more I see these events unfolding in this country, the more inclined I am to think he was right.

And to your next question, no I don’t want to see it happen. But if we keep letting other people impose their cultures on us, instead of making them assimilate into ours, things are going to come to a head.

Kowboy on July 17, 2007 at 10:39 AM

zane on July 17, 2007 at 10:26 AM

Not to put words in Kowboy’s mouth, but to me it means resistance to the imposition of totalitarian Sharia law here in this country, up to and including taking up arms to fight for our freedom.

That clear enough?

infidel4life on July 17, 2007 at 10:43 AM

Not only that, but also those who say they want to take back parts of this country that are “rightfully” theirs.

ok here im guessing you mean Mexico and not muslim?

and just to be clear your idea of resistence will be taking any muslim and imprisoning etc? or will there be a trial system to weed out good muslims from bad muslims, is that a distinction recognised by you?

i am just curious, i read alot of the time here and on other blogs cryptic messages like “we must prepare to retaliate at home”
“the day is coming” “muslims beware” etc all in context not of international state warefare but in the context of relations with american muslims.

zane on July 17, 2007 at 10:55 AM

If that’s what it may take, then we will. Time will tell.
bernzright777 on July 17, 2007 at 10:43 AM

thanks that answers my question, you do believe the day will come where you will be willing to go out and kill? imprison? beat? etc any muslim you suspect.

zane on July 17, 2007 at 10:57 AM

thanks that answers my question, you do believe the day will come where you will be willing to go out and kill? imprison? beat? etc any muslim you suspect.

zane on July 17, 2007 at 10:57 AM

No, just the armed ones.

Kowboy on July 17, 2007 at 11:03 AM

thanks that answers my question, you do believe the day will come where you will be willing to go out and kill? imprison? beat? etc any muslim you suspect.

zane on July 17, 2007 at 10:57 AM

The point is, CAIR, Ellison, and people like him want the Qu’ran as the premier authority in America, as Spencer so accurately expressed. I’ll fight to the death to make sure it doesn’t happen. That makes me a radical, right wing nut job?
I support any Muslim who honors the Constitution and this country’s values. But for them to do that, they have to reject the Suras they must blindly follow….. not likely.

MNDavenotPC on July 17, 2007 at 11:12 AM

thanks that answers my question, you do believe the day will come where you will be willing to go out and kill? imprison? beat? etc any muslim you suspect.

zane on July 17, 2007 at 10:57 AM

Where in the hell did you interperet that from???
I’m (well) armed as granted by the Constitution to defend myself and my loved ones from tyranny. Sic Semper Tyrannis
pal, look it up, then go away.

bernzright777 on July 17, 2007 at 11:12 AM

Wow. So Minnesota has given us the gaza strip right here at home. I wonder how Mr. Ellison will be on the assault weapons laws; I mean, you can’t have a good ‘alluh akbar’ cheer without at least a dozen AK-47’s firing into the air. I do so look forward to spending my twilight years with those wonderful religious wars of the middle east being fought in my neighborhood. Thank you Jimmy Carter. Thank you Minnesota.

austinnelly on July 17, 2007 at 11:16 AM

zane on July 17, 2007 at 11:12 AM

Ok. let me see if I can make it simple for you.

Minn. ALREADY has sharia law. Just what exactly is it that makes you think they aren’t going to try and expand that to other states until it exists throughout the entire country? If you are naive enough to believe they aren’t going to, I’m wasting my time here.

Kowboy on July 17, 2007 at 11:22 AM

Minn. ALREADY has sharia law. Just what exactly is it that makes you think they aren’t going to try and expand that to other states until it exists throughout the entire country? If you are naive enough to believe they aren’t going to, I’m wasting my time here.

i think in your attempts to make things simple for me you struggling, MN has sharia law? as in the state law is now sharia? or are you talking about muslim cabbies who have beenn given dispensations?

the state of MN has sharia law…

uh no it doesnt.

zane on July 17, 2007 at 11:28 AM

the state of MN has sharia law…

uh no it doesnt.

zane on July 17, 2007 at 11:28 AM

Let me struggle just a bit more.

And just what laws were applied when granting these cabbies their “dispensations”?

I’d love to keep burning down these straw men as you build them, but I have to go get some sleep. Hopefully some of my friends here will be able to make you see the light of day.

But I highly doubt it…..

Kowboy on July 17, 2007 at 11:36 AM

Ellison was able to partake in a free election, Yes…… it was the people who voted him in…… that has nothing to do with his regard for free society only his ability to use it. I as a Catholic with a Masters in Religious Studies would not succeed in such a venture in ANY Islamic country.

MNDavenotPC on July 17, 2007 at 11:37 AM

zane on July 17, 2007 at 11:13 AM

is a congressman who was elected by an american elctorate through direct democracy not honouring the constitution? as for his comments on bush, really no different to what many many people say non muslim and muslim alike.

Hate to be the one to break this to you but Adolph Hitler was also elected through direct democracy and I seriously doubt anyone would be foolish enough to suggest that he was honoring the German constitution. Those that do not learn from history, are damned to repeat mistakes.

doriangrey on July 17, 2007 at 11:47 AM

What really great blogging! It’s wonderful to see others feel the same way about protecting our way of life in this country. To the range & practice! Keep your powder dry, boys, you never know when you might need it.

countywolf on July 17, 2007 at 11:47 AM

Damn right Wolf!

bernzright777 on July 17, 2007 at 11:58 AM

I hope someone puts together a campaign ad that shows clips from terrorist sniper videos, bombing videos, stoning videos, etc, where the killers are gleefully allahu akbaring, cut in with the clip of ellison standing there making weird boxing gestures while his audience yells allahu akbar.

RushBaby on July 17, 2007 at 12:15 PM

MNDavenotPC on July 17, 2007 at 12:04 PM

Wonder how long a liberal would last under Sharia..

Hmm, good question, how long could a lying little amoral ethic less liberal crawl on their stomach before their new lords and masters? Probably a hell of a lot longer than any stand up for what is right no compromise conservative Christian.

doriangrey on July 17, 2007 at 12:19 PM

doriangrey on July 17, 2007 at 12:19 PM

Yep, I agree having not to bow down to Sharia or pay the dhimminitude tax not a bad alternative in my mind….. keeping my powder dry, though.

MNDavenotPC on July 17, 2007 at 12:35 PM

Marvelous report. I wish every American could watch it.

Try to think of individuals who were more antithetical to each other than the founding fathers of the United States of America and the founding father of Islam. MB4

Our freedoms were mandated by the belief system of the Judeo-Christian Bible amd were encoded into our laws because of this understanding.

The religious reasons for requiring man to live in liberty are antithetical to the requirements of the Koran. The Koran outlines a goal of submission, not independence, for the entire world.

The nation state of America that exists to protect its boundaries from assaults upon the liberty protected therein is an impediment to the goals of the Koran which sees only one state, the state of islam.

This is a big big problem. Islam is not just another way to pray. It is a master plan that conflicts with the basis of our nation

Personally, I just can’t figure out why he would be speaking to atheists and why atheists would let him speak to them. Muslims and atheists are like oil and water. JinxMcHue

Because they share the common dogma that the enemy of my enemy is my friend

Mr Ellison also raised eyebrows by telling his audience: “You’ll always find this Muslim standing up for your right to be atheists all you want.”

Yep, as long as you pay the Jizzy-tax and don’t criticize muslim beliefs you atheists can waste your energies on the Christians and Jews and we muslims will take care of you infidel suckers later.. just don’t build any atheist buildings taller than any muslim buildings, and no pork, and no Rushdie books etc etc

So Bush is Hitler? Then what do we call the leader of Iran, who admires Hitler, denies the holocaust, has a master plan to eliminate Israel which seems to involve nukes?

entagor on July 17, 2007 at 12:54 PM

MNDavenotPC on July 17, 2007 at 12:35 PM

keeping my powder dry, though.

And my AR15 cleaned loaded and close at hand.

doriangrey on July 17, 2007 at 1:03 PM

doriangrey on July 17, 2007 at 12:19 PM

Modern-day “progressives” operate on two basic principles. I refer to these as the Nomad Syndrome and the Manson Syndrome.

Nomad Syndrome; The belief that Western Civilization is imperfect, not because of the inherent nature of complex systems like a human culture, but because of the conscious refusal of the majority of its people to accede to the progressives’ demands for absolute power. Therefore, Western Civilization must be destroyed so the progressives can replace it with a perfect society based on their (the progressives’) preferred socioeconomic/sociopolitical theories.

(Source; “The Changeling” [Star Trek; The Original Series])

Manson Syndrome; The belief that, once a non-Western group (Islamists, Communists, etc.) has succeeded in destroying Western Civilization, the victors will be too stupid to run the world by themselves. And accordingly will need the “enlightened intellectuals” of the progressive elite’ to tell them what to do.

(Source; Helter Skelter by Vincent Bugliosi [with Curt Gentry].)

The progressives are all in favor of the Islamists turning the West into yet another example of a failed culture, because they believe that these same Islamists will then genuflect to them and obey their every whim- thus relieving the “elite’” of having to do their own dirty work, or indeed any actual work at all. After all, it is so much easier to play Pharaoh when you have a few brawny overseers to whip the slaves whenever you wave your hand- that way, your arms don’t get tired wielding the whip yourself. (As Duke Wayne said to Ed Asner in El Dorado, progressives don’t like having to get their hands dirty- they always “hire it done”.)

And as for the fact that, based on Sharia law alone, if the Islamists ever did conquer us, the “progressives” would be the first ones to be beheaded as utter and complete, irredeemable “servants of Shaitan”, they simply refuse to believe it. They are utterly convinced that the “stupid” Islamists (whom they regard as close to their ideal of the “noble savage”) will, nevertheless, recognize the progressives’ “inherent superiority”- and respond appropriately. In roughly the way that Nubian slave-masters responded to Rameses II.

These are two more reasons that I rarely bother even trying to make the progressives I know see sense any more. How can you talk sensibly to people who pride themselves on their lack of contact with reality?

cheers

eon

eon on July 17, 2007 at 1:19 PM

Kini - Scary isn’t it. When will Minnesota declare sharia law?”

The Koran tells me so.

MB4 on July 17, 2007 at 3:01 PM

zane - “yes clearly ellison has no regard for free society will use the rights that Infidel America grants to him against them, hence his standing for election and being elected to the United states Congress

MB4 on July 17, 2007 at 3:13 PM

Why did the atheists’ tarnish their reputation by inviting this maroon?

Oxybeles on July 17, 2007 at 3:39 PM

zane on July 17, 2007 at 11:30 AM

Are you Muslim?

Connie on July 17, 2007 at 4:10 PM

Connie,

I’m guessing Zane is Ron Paul.

forest on July 17, 2007 at 4:18 PM

MB4 on July 17, 2007 at 4:25 PM
Yeah I did! I have a copy of both here in my library. Wwho knew it would happen here…… Oh I know! The apologists would say ” You just don’t understand them, learn from them.”…. My ass I will!!

MNDavenotPC on July 17, 2007 at 4:31 PM

Face it: this “religion” is not compatible with the American way of life. Period. Full stop. If we can start to say that out loud, we MAY have a chance to survive…

JWS on July 17, 2007 at 5:11 PM

so who will they be? surley there will need to be a significant number correct? and by the point they are knocking on my door it would be a safe bet to say the US govt and Law enforcement agencies will have been destroyed, who will have destroyed them and how? Nuclear attack? dirt bomb? if thats how, then in the nuclear winter that followed are you suggesting a massive muslim infantry will have invaded the US? perhaps from the mexican border? i still dont see how i will have a mullah knocking on my door demanding i convert.

good question. I’d also be curious for some of the posters here to carry their paranoia to its logical endpoint…but they can’t because it would sound insane. If you truly fear Muslim fundamentalists are taking over the entire American state and then converting the remaining non-muslim populace to Islam within our lifetimes then you really must have to sleep with a diaper on to keep from wetting your bed at night. Man up and have some common sense. Or explain to me within reason how and when this could feasibly happen.

crr6 on July 17, 2007 at 6:07 PM

crr6 on July 17, 2007 at 6:07 PM

It’s not the end result people fear, it is the process or the attempted process.

A bombing here, a bombing there, here a building there a building old McDonald had a…

It reminds me of a relative who smoked and said “who cares if I die 10 years earlier, at least I am doing what I want”, then she got lung cancer and the last 10 years of a 10 year shortened life was hell. It wasn’t the dying it was the process of death that was so evil.

We will win over these Muslim fanatics, but the process could be painful and deadly.

right2bright on July 17, 2007 at 6:19 PM

crr6 on July 17, 2007 at 6:07 PM

Did liberalism screw up this country all at once or did it creep up on us over the last 40+ years like a disease?

Connie on July 17, 2007 at 7:06 PM

Or explain to me within reason how and when this could feasibly happen.

crr6 on July 17, 2007 at 6:07 PM

Elect Shrillary

Kowboy on July 17, 2007 at 7:57 PM

i would love to know what you people who make statements by this really mean…why not just be open instead of cryptic? are you saying at some point american muslims like keith ellison will have to be interred? deported?( to where?) and if theyt refused to leave what are you saying should be done? is the drastic measure you mention preparing to take up arms against the muslims in america??

zane on July 17, 2007 at 10:26 AM

Nothing cryptic about it zane, myself and many Americans are more than prepared to defend our country’s freedoms and liberties from a non-secular strict religious ideology that is predicated upon no other laws being placed above their strict Sharia religious law!

If you think our current government is trying to limit your freedoms and civil liberties, if we sit back and do nothing and they are successful you haven’t begun to know the meaning of oppression, and if you’re not convinced then I recommend you study up more on non-secular countries governed by Islam/Sharia law.

As far as I’m concerned we should already be rounding up any and all Muslims for deportation that subscribe to this type of non-secular religious ideology as it is absolutely incompatible with the secular ideals and ideology of our nation and what constitutes a free nation where all people regardless of their race, creed, color, or religious beliefs are EQUAL and this precisely where Islam’s strict Sharia non-secular religious ideology is at complete odds with our type of democracy!

Furthermore, if after being deported and we continue to be attacked (suicide bombings of our shopping malls, places of education, etc.) then I have no problems with the people rising up and doing whatever is necessary to protect our way of live, our nation, and our freedoms including use of deadly force!

Freedom isn’t free and sometimes you are forced to fight for what is right against what is wrong and evil, and fascist Islam is EVIL! Hence my blog name, Liberty or Death, live free or die, cause living in chains is no way to live!

But then again you apologist peaceniks/pacifists could never understand this type of mentality; instead you’d be dragged to the death camps trying to “talk” to your overlords before you’d fight back for what is right!

Evil does not go away and leave you alone if you ignore it, instead it only grows stronger and more dangerous…wake up zane and smell your double-mocha-latte-frappachino (with sprinkles) before it’s too late!

Liberty or Death on July 17, 2007 at 10:28 PM

I guess I hit the sumbit button too soon.

Zane,

When the attacks start with a regular basis on our soil what do you plan to do?

boomer on July 17, 2007 at 10:36 PM

Forgot link, sorry, here it is:

http://www.americancongressfortruth.com/ArchDetails.aspx?id=200

Liberty or Death on July 17, 2007 at 11:02 PM