This is the difference between doing stuff, which Mitt! does, and talking out your ass, which is what freddie boy does.

You are more than welcome to list freds? doings. And puuulllease, no more references to his rhetoric.

Here are a few of the issues that fred? has been forced to, or accidentally has, put himself on record for and are coming back to bite him in the a$$……..

1) We already know how he feels about Iraq. If his family friends who are serving in Iraq are discouraged, then fred? will be discouraged. fred? also believes that the possibility of unreasonable measures might need to be taken to win the war in Iraq, AND HE WILL NOT USE THOSE MEASURES.

2) Abortion. In 1994 fred? was pro-choice. In 2007 fred? is pro-life, and worse yet, he says he has always been with the pro-life crowd.

3) It has been reported that in 1991 he lobbied for a pro-choice group. When confronted with this, he first had no recollection, then he denied it, now he says it doesn’t matter because of some BS about attorneys and everyones right to representation, etc.

4) fred? again uses the BS attorney/representation line when defending his 20+ year questionable lobbying career, YET, when it comes to the Roberts lobbying, he tosses the attorney/representation line out the window and uses his efforts to prove what kind of Justice he will appoint as POTUS.

fred? is obviously confused with reality and the TV roles he has played. Real life doesn’t work the way his TV show worked. In his TV show, the fans want to believe what they are presented with and suspend believability to make sure that happens. Real people are smarter than that. They can smell a rat a mile away, and the minute fred? has to start taking positions, his ratishness will be clear and his poll numbers will fall faster than a guys erection after one look at a buck naked Helen Thomas!

Rudy Giuliani jumps into the web fray with a column in today’s Pajamas Media on judges and legal reform.Reform must also take place throughout our nation’s courts. A family dry cleaning business was recently dragged through two years of litigation…..

Fred? will announce so soon as the last republican primary debate is over, then run a mad dash campaign in the last few weeks before the vote.

This way he gets to keep his bold “leader” position by hailing his cowardly cop out to the end as what is actually a brilliant “brave, original, unique” strategy, while still being able to smoke some cigars with Hannity and Leno and write more essays. It’s the perfect plan! Fred? gets to avoid tough questions, ride his Law & Order fueled high poll numbers, and come in as the dark horse in the eleventh hour!

Remember kiddies, being a leader means entering a race at the last minute after all the other guys have already beaten each other up in meaningless debates that are designed as dog-and-pony shows, not actual forums where candidates answer tough questions relevant to the job of President of the United States.

Vote for the Eleventh hour dark horse with the Fifth hour shadow: Vote Fred? Thompson.

You want me to vote for any crap the GOP serves up, even if I don’t find it appetizing? James Dobson gets to draw lines in the sand. How come I don’t?

Allahpundit on July 17, 2007 at 4:37 PM

Amen and Amen. The base is moving toward a tent the size of a pup tent. May be for different reasons than you but getting spoon fed that we just must support someone who might be the next Reagan is insulting.

I think the Republicans are lining themselves up for a royal beating next year. The base can blame all the so called RINOS and Independents who sat out, but at the end of the day the results will be stunning. Maybe then, more than opinion or view will be acceptable to the base again.

Dude… no one who utters the words “cop killer bullets” or “undetectable weapons” has any idea what the debate is about or has a clue about firearms. Leave the matter to those who do.

Dude-

Would you like me to be more specific?

Why do you support weapons that can pass through metal detectors?

Why do you support teflon coated bullets?

Why do you support armor piercing bullets?

How are any of these conservative or better yet, protected by the 2nd Amendment? I breathlessly await your answer as does the Supreme Court.

Since you clearly have no idea about the 1st Amendment, I don’t expect your answer to this to be any more logical than “I want my guns!”.

Compelling.

the best Republican president of all time

Lincoln.

I think there is a lot that remains to be seen about Fred Thompson. Whatever the case, it will all sort out soon enough.

Weber48IDA on July 17, 2007 at 11:51 PM

Part of the problem is that his supporters, and to some extent the candidate himself, have made it about Fred Thompson, instead of about issues that are of great importance. He spends just as much time making announcements about announcements as he does outlining policy positions. The discussion has started, and other candidates are fighting it out. It’s OK to decide late, but once you have made your decision (as he said he has, and I assume it’s that he’s running), why not just go for it?

[people] will forget there was a time when Fred wasn’t a candidate.

They’ll also forget about his oh so perfect announcement of candidacy, so he should just get it over with and say something useful. If he’s as awesome as some people say, it won’t matter.

And for all you conservatives who yap about gun grabbers, Ronald Reagan:

Never said I idolized Reagan either. Even if I thought he was the best Republican president of all time (and I am not saying that I do)that doesn’t mean I think he was perfect. He had some good points, so do the others, Including Rudy.

When looking at any politician I always envision an old fashioned balance scale with the good points on one side and the bad points on the other. Each point is weighted. For me it takes a whole heap of good points to even come close to compensating for a gun grabbing history.

Since the 2nd is at the very core of our liberties, you mess with it and you are messing with the very thing that this nation is about. A person can’t preach liberty and gun control at the same time without having some critical contradictions in their thinking. This is not an area that I am willing to compromise on.

If you don’t agree, oh well.

Dude… no one who utters the words “cop killer bullets” or “undetectable weapons” has any idea what the debate is about or has a clue about firearms. Leave the matter to those who do.

Well said Hollowpoint!

Also, machine guns are not entirely illegal at the federal level. Such weapons were first regulated in the National Firearms Act of 1934 and required a federal excise tax of $200 to transfer ownership. Generally, these are known as Title II or Class III weapons. This was followed by the Gun Control act of 1968, which basically made it illegal to import any Class III weapons (only sporting weapons could be imported).

Then the Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986 basically made it illegal for a civilian to own any Class III gun made after 1986. Actually, using their typical sneaky methods, the law did not exactly outlaw the ownership of the newer Class III weapons. Instead it prohibited the BATFE (knows at the ATF at the time) from accepting the tax for the transfer of ownership of a machine gun, an automatic sear, or any other mechanism that would allow for automatic fire. So the transfer isn’t illegal, just they won’t accept payment so the paperwork can’t get processed.

Gotta love them boys in DC.

As far as the older Class III firearms go, anybody who meets some basic criteria (no felonies, not insane, etc.) and who can pay the tax can own one – provided you live in a state that allows them, such as Nevada or Mississippi. Other states (for example California) do not permit ownership at all.

I know several people in Nevada who legally own machine guns, including a totally awesome restored Tommy gun.

Hollowpoint on July 17, 2007 at 7:00 PM

Can’t say this gently. You’re wrong, and foolishly so. Did you not read the full comment? 15 months. ANYBODY is electable, if Clinton was. Don’t believe the hype.

California elected Arnold because they didn’t believe Mcclintock was electable, even though virtually every conservative asked preferred him. And what did California get? A RINO on steroids. Don’t believe the hype.

Not enough. I think you just need to come to the realization that I’m stupid. It will help you cope.

Oh cry me a river. This place has been a non-stop Fred reach around for months. Not one person has ever said a single substanative thing in his favor but it never stops them, or you, for pointing out the flaws of ever other candidate. And thats the point.

Every other candidate has had the stones to throw his hat in the ring and get tested. Every other candidate has been willing to put his record on the line and get hammered by his fellow Republicans, the media and their opponents. Everyone but Fred.

He isn’t testing the water. It’s not a shock that their is an election coming up in 2008. This is his strategy, stay out as long as possible and not have to defend his crappy record and build his myth in the press through podcasts and speechs. Amd most of the people here are buying it and have been calling the other candidates and those who support them garbage for months. Boo hoo for you.

If Fred doesn’t have the stones to face his primary opponents and run on his record he will get destroyed in the general. And given his record, I could care less.

Big S on July 17, 2007 at 11:15 PM

You might be right but unfortunately I don’t think we will lack for “critical issues” anytime soon. That day will come soon enough and then people will find something else to be in crisis mode about and will forget there was a time when Fred wasn’t a candidate. I think there is a lot that remains to be seen about Fred Thompson. Whatever the case, it will all sort out soon enough.

‘We’ve just come from celebrating the 4th of July. For me, it was parades in Iowa and fireworks in Idaho. You know, the kind of celebrating the Democrats usually reserve for April 15th.’”

fred? “empty suit” Thompson:

but I want to do some things that only a president can do.”

hahaha What’s that freddie boy? Sleep in the Lincoln bedroom? Slide down a banister? Ride in Air Force One?

I’ve never met Fred Thompson. But I do know that no matter what I say it won’t be enough for you. Conservative Union rating? Not enough. Views on Federalism? Not enough. Calling out Radical Islam for the threat that it is to our way of life? Not enough. I think you just need to come to the realization that I’m stupid. It will help you cope.

I think CFR was a big mistake but I also understand what they were trying to do. I think he got mud on his face and he knows it. And I think when he steps into the spotlight he will need to explain it. FYI… Reagan was a Democrat. People make mistakes. Except, I suspect – “your guy”.

NASCAR Dad’s don’t count. Ron Paul could win those.

Weber48IDA on July 17, 2007 at 11:13 PM

Really? Tell me all you know about Fred. I’m dying to hear.

Please especially tell me why you favor someone who has assaulted the 1st Amendment. It’s kind of important. That’s why it was 1st.

“How dare he not declare!”

My point still stands regarding the other candidates. They’ve had plenty of time to seize the day. It may be that Fred isn’t up to the test. He will be questioned more about CFR – as well he should be from my conservative perspective.

Weber48IDA on July 17, 2007 at 11:01 PM

If there were not a stunning paucity of leadership in the country these days, I’d say that timing one’s campaign wouldn’t matter. In that case, I wouldn’t care if he announced in December. However, there are some fairly critical issues on the table right now, and by not declaring his campaign, participating in debates, etc. he’s willingly avoiding some of his opportunities to provide the kind of leadership that’s needed. Maybe he can’t do so, but it’s worth a try. Isn’t it?

Weber48IDA on July 17, 2007 at 11:01 PM

You’re missing the point. fred? wants it both ways and that is an affront to conservative ideals.

fred? brags about his poll numbers. Ya know what? fred? sounds like a AA ball player bragging that he has more homers than a major leaguer.

fred? lies about his pro-choice/pro-life flip-flop.

fred? fakes out his supporters with a fake red pickup trucked he leased.

fred? was a major player in CFR.

fred? lobbied against American citizens who had been victimized by unscrupulous companies.

fred? lobbied for a dictator.

fred? lobbied for a failed nuclear power plant that cost the tax payers 1.7 billion dollars.

fred? has no executive experience.

fred? did next to nothing in the senate. Except CFR.

fred? cannot speak extemporaneously.

fred? is clueless when it comes to the Cuban immigration issue.

So, that IS freds? record and the question still stands…..WHAT exactly has the guy done except give speeches?

Wouldn’t it have just saved time to say you have no idea what his record is but you hear he is way cool?

JackStraw on July 17, 2007 at 11:03 PM

Jack:

I didn’t know Bush was going to try to give away the country to illegals. What do any of us know when it comes to politicians?

Here’s what I do know:

I know Rudy is a liberal that likes a strong defense. I know Mitt will sway in the wind. I know Ron Paul is nuts. I know that if Duncan Hunter can hang in there he might get another look. I know that of any of them, Fred Thompson has the best mix of representing my views and beating Hillary Clinton.

Winning matters. Whining doesn’t.

Sources close to Fred Thompson say the former senator’s official entry into the presidential race with a Tennessee announcement day is “in flux.” Joining the presidential contest could “slip into early September” as advisors describe a Septem…

Weber48IDA on July 17, 2007 at 11:01 PM

Wouldn’t it have just saved time to say you have no idea what his record is but you hear he is way cool?

Tell me what gets you all hot and bothered about Fred. I’m so sick of people who have no idea who this guy is and what he has done talk about the shortcomings of other candidates. Nobody has made a serious case for this guy other than he just sounds so nifty on Law and Order.

JackStraw on July 17, 2007 at 10:25 PM

Jack:

I appreciate the fact that you know what I don’t know and why I may or not know it. Fred is taking many deliberate steps to share what he thinks. So far I like everything I am hearing. My point was the near level of outrage (thanks for your post) that people seem to have for a guy that hasn’t even declared. “How dare he not declare!”

My point still stands regarding the other candidates. They’ve had plenty of time to seize the day. It may be that Fred isn’t up to the test. He will be questioned more about CFR – as well he should be from my conservative perspective.

I’m sorry you are so upset. My buddy is a White Sox fan and he feels the same way about the Cubs.