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Shocka: Half of foreign jihadis in Iraq are Saudi

posted at 7:59 pm on July 15, 2007 by Allahpundit
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They’re paying for the jihad; they might as well help staff it too. No one in the Saudi government knows anything about it, of course, notwithstanding the sophistication of their security apparatus and the fact that mass-casualty attacks inside Iraq coincidentally serve the Saudi end of delegitimizing the Iranian-friendly Shiite government.

Although Bush administration officials have frequently lashed out at Syria and Iran, accusing it of helping insurgents and militias here, the largest number of foreign fighters and suicide bombers in Iraq come from a third neighbor, Saudi Arabia, according to a senior U.S. military officer and Iraqi lawmakers…

He said 50% of all Saudi fighters in Iraq come here as suicide bombers. In the last six months, such bombings have killed or injured 4,000 Iraqis…

“To suggest they’ve done nothing to stem the flow of people into Iraq is wrong,” said a U.S. intelligence official in Washington, who spoke on condition of anonymity. “People do get across that border. You can always ask, ‘Could more be done?’ But what are they supposed to do, post a guard every 15 or 20 paces?”…

Others contend that Saudi Arabia is allowing fighters sympathetic to Al Qaeda to go to Iraq so they won’t create havoc at home…

With its own border with Iraq largely closed, Saudi fighters take what is now an established route by bus or plane to Syria, where they meet handlers who help them cross into Iraq’s western deserts, the senior U.S. military officer said.

He suggested it was here that Saudi Arabia could do more, by implementing rigorous travel screenings for young Saudi males. Iraqi officials agreed.

“Are the Saudis using all means possible? Of course not…. And we think they need to do more, as does Syria, as does Iran, as does Jordan,” the senior officer said. An estimated 60 to 80 foreign fighters cross into Iraq each month, according to the U.S. military…

U.S. officials remain sensitive about the relationship. Asked why U.S. officials in Iraq had not publicly criticized Saudi Arabia the way they had Iran or Syria, the senior military officer said, “Ask the State Department. This is a political juggernaut.”

Per the first boldfaced part, Steyn likes to say that the global war on terror is really just a case of the Saudis having exported their own civil war, of which this certainly would be a piece. But looking the other way while jihadis slip into Iraq is only half the equation; the other half is the decision made by the the mujahedeen themselves or their superiors to terrorize Iraq instead of their country of origin. The Telegraph has an ominous piece out today about a new estimate from MI5 that 3-4,000 Brits have trained at AQ terror camps in Afghanistan. Are they in or on their way to Iraq, too? Probably not:

Some of those who came back to Britain from Afghanistan may since have given up terrorist activities. Others may have left the UK to fight in Iraq.

MI5 and MI6 are working on the assumption, however, that al-Qaeda sees its British Muslim recruits as too valuable to be used in Iraq, and that most are ordered to return to their communities in Britain to establish autonomous terrorist “sleeper cells”.

They’re well educated and fully assimilated. Why treat them like the jihadi equivalent of cannon fodder by sending them off to Baghdad? That follows the general pattern of the 9/11 hijackers too, incidentally: although 15 of the 19 were Saudi, only one of the four pilots was. The rest were “muscle” hijackers trained simply to keep the passengers at bay while the westernized professional types among them like Atta and Ziad Jarrah took care of business in the cockpit.

Meanwhile, the British counterpart of the Baker-Hamilton group is telling Gordon Brown it’s time to go home — even if that means things in Iraq getting worse “for a bit.”


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Surprise of the century

Yoshi on July 15, 2007 at 8:08 PM

Yuck. I’ve watched the deliberations of the Iraq Commission on Channel 4 – the UK’s B-H – and they haven’t got a clue what they’re talking about. Start treating the Saudis as a quasi-enemy at least.

aengus on July 15, 2007 at 8:19 PM

Everyone in the area has a part in Iraq, just waiting for us to leave. Then all hell breaks loose as they fight for the oil.

Wade on July 15, 2007 at 8:21 PM

They’re well educated and fully assimilated. Why treat them like the jihadi equivalent of cannon fodder by sending them off to Baghdad?

No, those embedded M.D.s are much more valuable for last minute suicide runs to the local airport. Harder to spot, until the bomb goes off, or not. That is, while PC’ers refuse to allow (whispers) profiling.

IrishEyes on July 15, 2007 at 8:26 PM

Nuke Mecca and take the oil for Cheney’s friends….

I still can’t understand why we act like we are fighting Hitler, but not Germany….

Tim Burton on July 15, 2007 at 8:37 PM

If any of our polticians had a brain and a real hope for American survival , any egress from Iraq would be contingent upon drilling in Alaska, the Gulf of Mexico, etc. We have enough oil to tell the tics to bug off, but we just have our hands-tied in getting it out.

bbz123 on July 15, 2007 at 8:39 PM

The Saudis sealed their borders I’ll give them that.

aengus on July 15, 2007 at 8:48 PM

Before the Bush Invasion, the Saudi’s pleaded with Bush not to go in, just to leave it alone. The Saudi’s were right.

Legions on July 15, 2007 at 9:01 PM

I still can’t understand why we act like we are fighting Hitler, but not Germany….

Tim Burton on July 15, 2007 at 8:37 PM

First time I have heard it put that way. Very, very apt analogy!

deepdiver on July 15, 2007 at 9:02 PM

MSM is spinning this as opposed to the Bush narrative.

Shhhhhhhhhhh. Bin Laden is a Saudi. The foreign fighters in Iraq are Bin Laden’s.

Anil Petra on July 15, 2007 at 9:03 PM

Death to oil!

WisCon on July 15, 2007 at 9:11 PM

Oil rules…

As does the House of Saud…

Before the Bush Invasion, the Saudi’s pleaded with Bush not to go in, just to leave it alone. The Saudi’s were right.

The Jordanians (King Abdullah especially ) warned about the inevitable civil war knowing that the three “sects” in Iraq would end up destroying each other thus opening the doors to Iran, Syria and even Turkey in the north. Like it or not Sadaam WAS a stabilizing force albeit it an evil one.

ZZ Bachman on July 15, 2007 at 9:13 PM

I could be misguided but aren’t these the same people that crashed into the twin towers?

canopfor on July 15, 2007 at 9:23 PM

It comes as No Surprise that the Saudi’s are Bullet Proof as long as a George Bush is in the Whitehouse.

Afterall, Like Father, Like Son isn’t completely meaningless. Especially when they’re both Old Friends of America’s enemy.

SilverStar830 on July 15, 2007 at 9:34 PM

If anything I’m surprised the number is 45% of foreign jihadis are Saudi. 15 of the 19 terrorists who carried out 9/11 were Saudi afterall.

Yakko77 on July 15, 2007 at 9:36 PM

If the news I’ve heard all my life can be trusted at all, then in some respects, the men in muslim countries are at considerably greater liberty than the men in the liberal democracies. From reports, men in muslim countries seem to consider themselves free lances, able to join private organizations, go off, and fight whom they wish, where they wish. Meanwhile, men in America appear to have two broad choices. One is to join the American arm forces and be sent off to do almost anything except kill America’s enemies or take their stuff. The other is to stay home and take sides in arguments about whether the Americans’ rulers have good intentions or evil intentions, there being little disagreement about their ineffectuality.

I don’t envy muslims their stupid theology or their servility toward that hairy, hunchbacked god of theirs. I do envy them their awesome liberty to organize to destroy and supplant the people they despise.

Kralizec on July 15, 2007 at 9:40 PM

Hmm, That’s odd! Most of the Jihadis who did 9/11 were Saudis also. I wonder if there is some kind of pattern we can get out of this?

Egfrow on July 15, 2007 at 10:15 PM

Huh. Somebody said nuke Mecca and wasn’t summarily banned or confronted with censure in the comments that followed.

Must be good beer, AllahPundit. Slainte Mhath!

RushBaby on July 15, 2007 at 10:41 PM

And yeah, I get it. I hope I have enough cred around here by now.

RushBaby on July 15, 2007 at 10:46 PM

Look to the State Department.

RushBaby on July 15, 2007 at 11:31 PM

If only we Americans had a vast untapped oil reserve in a scarcely populated region, you’d so be dead wahabist dicks.

Zach on July 15, 2007 at 11:41 PM

Egfrow on July 15, 2007 at 10:15 PM

My first thought when I saw this on TV earlier today. Wonder if the truthers will try and pin this on Bush too.

PowWow on July 15, 2007 at 11:53 PM

This is — to use a Clinton-favored phrase — “old news.” The Brookings Institution’s Iraq Index has been carrying these stats for years. But it’s convenient for the MSM to bring it up now, because of the stories about Iran and Syria. The MSM doesn’t want to address who is training the Saudis, arming them with EPPs, etc.

Karl on July 16, 2007 at 12:57 AM

For something cheering, Brigitte Gabriel talking to our soldiers.

It really gets going after the introductory formalities, anout 4 minutes in.

Great questions from the military members in the audience, also.

I’d vote to change the law to permit her to run for president.

The Saudis must quake in fear that such a woman as this is free to rip through their lies.

profitsbeard on July 16, 2007 at 1:43 AM

I thought everyone was supposed to be either with us or against us. Bush shouldn’t issue threats he’s not willing to back up.

VolMagic on July 16, 2007 at 2:02 AM

This isn’t true.

Not to say a significant fraction of the foreign jihadis aren’t Saudi, but not near 47%.

Jason on July 16, 2007 at 2:39 AM

This is good news. Let the Saudi backed Sunni militants continue to fight a long, messy, bloody war in Iraq with the Iranian backed Shia militias. A decade or so civil war will serve the collective West quite nicely.

We just need to get the hell out of the way.

awake on July 16, 2007 at 8:32 AM

If only we Americans had a vast untapped oil reserve in a scarcely populated region, you’d so be dead wahabist dicks.

Zach on July 15, 2007 at 11:41 PM

Ouch!

Kralizec on July 16, 2007 at 10:41 AM

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