Vitter: I diddled, and now I burn; Update: “Some people disappoint you,” says Rudy

posted at 9:25 am on July 10, 2007 by Allahpundit

Oh, how he burns.

Sen. David Vitter, R-La., apologized Monday night for “a very serious sin in my past” after his telephone number appeared among those associated with an escort service operated by the so-called “D.C. Madam.”…

“This was a very serious sin in my past for which I am, of course, completely responsible,” Vitter said in the statement. “Several years ago, I asked for and received forgiveness from God and my wife in confession and marriage counseling. Out of respect for my family, I will keep my discussion of the matter there — with God and them. But I certainly offer my deep and sincere apologies to all I have disappointed and let down in any way.”

Too bad this is newsy enough to warrant a post or else I’d have saved this for quote of the day:

Palfrey’s attorney, Montgomery Blair Sibley, told the AP, “I’m stunned that someone would be apologizing for this.”

It happened years ago, his wife’s apparently already forgiven him (but at what price?), and he wears the golden laurel of an anti-shamnesty gladiator. He shouldn’t have much to worry about when he runs in 2010, although this’ll give La Raza a little something to work with. Captain Ed notes something I hadn’t realized, though: Vitter is Giuliani’s southern campaign chair, which means in the span of about three weeks Rudy’s been linked to a john and (allegedly) a cokehead. From one New Yorker to another, Mayor: Keep away from the southerners. They do things differently down there. Meanwhile, between Duke Cunningham (again, allegedly), Foley, and now Vitter, we’ve got two Republicans visiting hookers and another preying on young boys in the span of 15 months. It’s starting to smell in here, boys. Not to mention that you’ve deprived us of the right to make Clenis jokes in good conscience. Does the party need to add sex crimes to its vetting list for candidates going forward?

If only he’d known there are alternatives — alternatives unmuscled men learned of long ago. Thanks to the well-muscled Ed Driscoll for this:

Update: The guy who dumped his last wife at a press conference sounds disappointed.


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If ya wanna hear the music, ya gotta pay the piper.

Unless you are a democrat.

TheSitRep on July 10, 2007 at 9:29 AM

Has anyone seen the whole list yet? Because, ya know we can always count on the MSM to spotlight both sides of the aisle when they do something wrong.

amerpundit on July 10, 2007 at 9:31 AM

This is just about sex. The personal lives of politicians are none of our business. Let Congress get back to doing the work of the American people.

/carville

Slublog on July 10, 2007 at 9:32 AM

Have no fear amerpundit, this will be a feeding frenzy and no side of the isle will be spared!!!! And it will be interesting to see if any female office holders are on her list as well.!!!

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on July 10, 2007 at 9:35 AM

The translators voice on that video is just a freaky as that guy. And couldn’t he just get a real russian bride for a $100,000 grand?

Complete7 on July 10, 2007 at 9:35 AM

Well, I think I’m going to have to see a photo of the hooker before passing any further judgement.

WisCon on July 10, 2007 at 9:37 AM

It was unusual that he had addressed this with his wife and church several years ago. It kinda takes a little out of the stinger to know he had atoned for the transgression and knew it was a mistake when he did it. The revelation is embarrassing, but not near the fatal blow to him and his family as the media would’ve liked.

volsense on July 10, 2007 at 9:39 AM

He sinned vigorously!

EnochCain on July 10, 2007 at 9:39 AM

The best part of those dolls is the silence. I’m not saying I’m going to run out and buy one, but I understand.

sunny on July 10, 2007 at 9:41 AM

[Complete7 on July 10, 2007 at 9:35 AM]

That 100k is earnest money. It’d probably be that much a month once you get the ring on her.

Dusty on July 10, 2007 at 9:41 AM

ya know we can always count on the MSM to spotlight both sides of the aisle when they do something wrong.

LMAO!

The double standard on “private” sexual conduct has been around for a long time. Back in 1989, when Bush the Elder nominated John Tower for Secretary of Defense, the Dem-led Senate rejected the nomination, citing Tower’s drinking and womanizing. Barbara Mikulski (D-MD) went so far as to say that adultery is “conduct unbecoming an officer”, and thus unacceptable from the person at #2 in the chain of command. She would later vote against convicting Mr. Bill, even though his adultery was committed on the job, with a co-worker, and compounded with perjury. As Commander-In-Chief, he would have been #1 in the chain of command. A change of heart during the intervening years, Senator, or a double standard?

Bigfoot on July 10, 2007 at 9:42 AM

Un-muscled beta males will eventually rule the world. I think it’s a presumptuous for him to announce God forgave him. He refers to it as a “sin” as in the singular. I wonder how many times he employed the escort service and how much money he blew being blown. I wanna know!!

Blake on July 10, 2007 at 9:42 AM

Fred! doesn’t have to go to prostitutes. Women pay him for sex.

Mike Honcho on July 10, 2007 at 9:42 AM

From one New Yorker to another, Mayor: Keep away from the southerners. They do things differently down there.

Admit it. You wrote that in order to receive a tongue lashing from MKH.

Blake on July 10, 2007 at 9:47 AM

I think it’s a presumptuous for him to announce God forgave him.

Why?

Esthier on July 10, 2007 at 9:48 AM

Taking to the calculator, this guy could have gone to a massage parlor nearly every day for 10 years vs buying 100 love dolls, and not even have to call and leave a record.Just saying…..

bbz123 on July 10, 2007 at 9:51 AM

I think it’s a presumptuous for him to announce God forgave him.

Why?

Because God told me that he said no such thing.

Blake on July 10, 2007 at 9:54 AM

The only scandal that can hurt a politician in Louisiana is being found in bed with a dead woman or a live man.

pjcomix on July 10, 2007 at 10:02 AM

Vitter is Roman Catholic and therefore, he presumes nothing:

Absolution proper is that act of the priest whereby, in the Sacrament of Penance, he frees man from sin. It presupposes on the part of the penitent, contrition, confession, and promise at least of satisfaction; on the part of the minister, valid reception of the Order of Priesthood and jurisdiction, granted by competent authority, over the person receiving the sacrament. That there is in the Church power to absolve sins committed after baptism the Council of Trent thus declares: “But the Lord then principally instituted the Sacrament of Penance, when, being raised from the dead, He breathed upon His disciples saying, ‘Receive ye the Holy Ghost. Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them, and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained.’ By which action so signal, and words so clear the consent of all the Fathers has ever understood that the power of forgiving and retaining sins was communicated to the Apostles, and to their lawful successors for the reconciling of the faithful who have fallen after baptism” (Sess. XIV, i).

TheBigOldDog on July 10, 2007 at 10:06 AM

As long as the hooker was good looking, I’m cool with it.

brak on July 10, 2007 at 10:06 AM

Because God told me that he said no such thing.

Blake on July 10, 2007 at 9:54 AM

I’d be careful if I were you Blake. That’s way past the bounds and not funny at all. God’s in the business of forgiving, and that’s a good thing for all of us.

y2church on July 10, 2007 at 10:08 AM

Vitter: I diddled, and now I burn

I’m told they have stuff for this problem.

JackStraw on July 10, 2007 at 10:09 AM

4 kids and an adoring wife

Don’t let your senate door slam on your zipper Ritter

EricPWJohnson on July 10, 2007 at 10:11 AM

y2church on July 10, 2007 at 10:08 AM

Then wouldn’t God forgive Blake for saying that?…just sayin…

EnochCain on July 10, 2007 at 10:12 AM

Vitter is Roman Catholic and therefore, he presumes nothing:

It presupposes on the part of the penitent, contrition . . .

Well there ya’ go . . . presupposition. God said there was no deal.

I’d be careful if I were you Blake. That’s way past the bounds and not funny at all.

God told me I’m as funny as hell. Bite me.

Blake on July 10, 2007 at 10:14 AM

Don’t really care about his personal sex life but this is a serious lapse in judgment and I’ll not support him in the future. It’s the same way I felt about Clinton.

How could a congressman think that he could keep this quiet?

roux on July 10, 2007 at 10:19 AM

Back in ’99, when David was running for Bob Livingston’s US House seat, he was warned that his dalliances, quite conceivably, could come back to haunt – just query Bob, David – and was asked to stand down. Obviously, he didn’t.

I warned him, again, in ’04, when he ran for the US Senate, and was assured, “That’s all behind me, now.” I remained unconvinced and, unfortunately, have been proven right. Dalliances, like chickens, have a way of coming home to roost.

Aunt B on July 10, 2007 at 10:19 AM

So what’s the debate, here? Can God make Blake so sinful that even he couldn’t forgive him?

James on July 10, 2007 at 10:19 AM

amerpundit on July 10, 2007 at 9:31 AM

I thought the judge squelched the publishing of the list. I could be wrong, but she is a Clinton appointee I think, but again that’s been a few weeks and I wasn’t paying that close of attention.

Spirit of 1776 on July 10, 2007 at 10:21 AM

Al Gore just said “It’s a praavate matter”.

Hillary repeated “that’s what you get from the vast right wing conspiracy gang”.

And the great Fragility “hypocrisy is human”.

Not to leave out the Nonfactor with “red heering”.

Move on in peace and tranquility now.

Entelechy on July 10, 2007 at 10:28 AM

God told me I’m as funny as hell. #@%$ #&.

Blake on July 10, 2007 at 10:14 AM

I don’t disagree with you Blake. The problem is, Hell ain’t funny, and God is a subject that should never be taken lightly.

As I mentioned earlier, Enoch, God’s in the business of forgiving and that’s something that ALL of us can be thankful for.

LOL James, but let’s not even go down that avenue of logical fallicy, shall we?

y2church on July 10, 2007 at 10:29 AM

Another tragic victim of CZS.

Clinton Zipper Syndrome.

profitsbeard on July 10, 2007 at 10:29 AM

You know, I have absolutely no sympathy for an idiot who would do something this stupid, and actually think he could get away with it. Maybe there is still time for the people of his state to initiate a recall and get his dumb butt tossed out of his Senate seat.

pilamaye on July 10, 2007 at 10:33 AM

Rehab and then he will be a MSM darling and savior for all future Johns.

Wade on July 10, 2007 at 10:34 AM

God told me I’m as funny as hell. Bite me.

Blake on July 10, 2007 at 10:14 AM

Sorry, I thought you had something mature to add instead of just the tired same old insults that are all too common here.

Carry on.

So what’s the debate, here? Can God make Blake so sinful that even he couldn’t forgive him?

James on July 10, 2007 at 10:19 AM

By definition, God has nothing to do with sin whatsoever. That’s the meaning of the word holy, set apart from sin. So God doesn’t “make” anyone sinful.

Sin is merely the vehicle by which we pull ourselves apart from God, just as hell is nothing more than the ultimate separation of man from God. It’s not a pleasant experience, but being away from God, even in the midst of sin, never is.

Esthier on July 10, 2007 at 10:35 AM

Rehab and then he will be a MSM darling and savior for all future Johns.

NOT! He is a republican. Hang him high!

Wade on July 10, 2007 at 10:36 AM

y2church on July 10, 2007 at 10:29 AM

y2, I assume you’re new around here… You’re gonna have to develop an ability to recognize harmless humor, without feeling the need to preach.
Blake was making a joke, and as a long-standing member here, and a Christian myself, I understood it as a joke.

With all due respect, please chill.

tickleddragon on July 10, 2007 at 10:36 AM

Maybe there is still time for the people of his state to initiate a recall and get his dumb butt tossed out of his Senate seat.

pilamaye on July 10, 2007 at 10:33 AM

I’ve been given the impression that the madam has many, many names to reveal. I’m not convinced that we can boot them all.

Voting them out when their term is up shouldn’t be too difficult though.

Esthier on July 10, 2007 at 10:37 AM

As a former Democrat, I can’t overstate how much this mean-spiritedness about Vitter’s sin kept me out of the Republican Party for a long time. It still deeply repulses me. Aren’t there enough politician who take bribes to keep us busy during our two minute hates?

If I hadn’t awoke to the threat of Islam, I probably never would have become a conservative, despite being quite to the right of the Republican Party on many economic issue. I doubt I’m unique about this. When people say Republicans are mean-spirited, they mean that they have stopped listening to Republican, because of this behavior.

thuja on July 10, 2007 at 10:39 AM

Sorry, I thought you had something mature to add instead of just the tired same old insults that are all too common here. Carry on.

I was making a point but obviously you are too immature to understand it. Let me spell it out for you: Just because another politician got caught with his pants down and announces that God has forgiven him does not make it true and it is irrelevant to the issue that anyone else has to, too.

Blake on July 10, 2007 at 10:46 AM

Hey tickle,

As a long time reader of MM.com, I signed up with Hotair the very first day it launched. I’m no newb.

I don’t appreciate humor when it claims to know the will of God and wield it in such a manner as to deny a third party the forgivness that we all so richly need and deserve.

It wasn’t funny, and it was far from harmless. It was offensive and out of line.

Thanks for the advice, but I was never un-chilled. I apologize if I appeared to preach. I was simply offering Blake some kindly advice, as you have just done to me. The fact that my advice related to religious matters shouldn’t make it any more or less “preachy” than your advice.

We’re just sharing opinions here, which we’re all entitled to – even Blake.

y2church on July 10, 2007 at 10:47 AM

By definition, God has nothing to do with sin whatsoever. That’s the meaning of the word holy, set apart from sin. So God doesn’t “make” anyone sinful.

I guess you don’t recognize the ‘Could God make a burrito so hot that even He couldn’t eat it’ question about defining omnipotence.

Or jokes.

James on July 10, 2007 at 10:48 AM

Anyone among us without sin? Here’s the stone. Toss away.

saved on July 10, 2007 at 10:48 AM

Blake was making a joke, and as a long-standing member here, and a Christian myself, I understood it as a joke. With all due respect, please chill.
tickleddragon on July 10, 2007 at 10:36 AM

tickleddragon, thanks! However, I think anyone who substitutes bite me with #@%$ #& isn’t going to lighten up in the foreseeable decade.

Blake on July 10, 2007 at 10:48 AM

thuja on July 10, 2007 at 10:39 AM

You have no problem with politican’s using whores?

Wade on July 10, 2007 at 10:51 AM

y2church-

Blake’s point is that no one can presume to know the mind of God.

Or claim God did anything they wanted (forgave them, etc.) just because they want it to be so.

Coming from a politician caught with his pants makes it that much more dubious, self-serving and smarmy.

profitsbeard on July 10, 2007 at 10:51 AM

I was making a point but obviously you are too immature to understand it.

What’s this? I know you are but what am I?

You’re the only one making the statement an issue. You’re acting like people will read that God forgave him and thus decide it’s settled.

Maybe not all of us can be as intelligent as you are, but to assume that we’re all that dense is to assume a hubris that leads to melting wings.

God grants forgiveness when sincerely asked for it. By saying, “God has forgiven me,” the man’s saying nothing more than “I sincerely asked for forgiveness.”

Theologically, it’s simply not presumptuous. Either he asked sincerely and was thus forgiven, because that’s just how it works, or he wasn’t sincere or didn’t ask and thus was not forgiven.

But again, you’re the only one worrying about that part.

The bigger assumption might simply be his wife’s forgiveness. As a woman, I can only say that it’s almost impossible to forgive something like that. She may have said the words, but she’ll never be able to forget and move on completely. Considering her own comments about infidelity, he should sleep with one eye open.

Esthier on July 10, 2007 at 10:55 AM

If only Vitter had used one of the Japanese Sex Dolls in the Reuters story below the main story he wouldn’t have these problems. Now THAT story was freaky.

Sin is merely the vehicle by which we pull ourselves apart from God, just as hell is nothing more than the ultimate separation of man from God. It’s not a pleasant experience, but being away from God, even in the midst of sin, never is. Esthier on July 10, 2007 at 10:35 AM

Well put. Vitter has reconciled with his wife and has confessed to his inner circle so that takes a lot of the sting out of the Madam’s hit list. “That which is whispered in secret will be shouted from the roof tops.” Now he has to deal with the public humiliation.

On the subject of hell; God only creates eternal beings. Men and angels are eternal and have to exist SOMEWHERE for eternity. Hell contains and confines evil so that the rest of the universe is free from it. Now me, I’d rather be on the outside of hell free from evil and sin as opposed to trapped inside with all the evil and sin.

Mojave Mark on July 10, 2007 at 10:55 AM

Blake, hehe, gotcha.

I knew that you couldn’t let that pass. Why does it frustrate you so that I ommitted your obscene phrase?

y2church on July 10, 2007 at 10:56 AM

Is it possible for the poor sick Republican Party to find any other way to destroy themselves?

rplat on July 10, 2007 at 10:57 AM

Blake’s point is that no one can presume to know the mind of God.

I hate to pull out the Bible on this, but the Bible says the exact opposite.

Esthier on July 10, 2007 at 10:59 AM

James on July 10, 2007 at 10:48 AM

Of course I did. Or the “rock so heavy He can’t lift it…”

The difference is, those are logical fallacies. The person so sinful one is not a logical fallacy. It has a perfect logical answer, hence I responded with that answer.

Esthier on July 10, 2007 at 11:04 AM

Good lord, folks…you’re sounding like Extremist Muslims.
Offended soooooo easily.

And don’t try to tell me that it’s NOT like Muslims reacting to cartoons.

tickleddragon on July 10, 2007 at 11:05 AM

Blake, hehe, gotcha. I knew that you couldn’t let that pass. Why does it frustrate you so that I ommitted your obscene phrase?

So, you acted like a bigger nut in order to get a response from me? It worked! Act as crazy as you wish. But don’t cry foul when I and others comment on it. Oh, and bite me.

Blake on July 10, 2007 at 11:07 AM

Blake’s point is that no one can presume to know the mind of God.

Or claim God did anything they wanted (forgave them, etc.) just because they want it to be so.

profitsbeard on July 10, 2007 at 10:51 AM

I appreciate what you’re saying prof, but I humbly submit that you’re basic premise is wrong. We CAN know the mind of God as it relates to a great many issues because He has revealed His mind to us in the Bible. One such issue is the one at the heart of this debate – God’s willingness to forgive us.

1 John 1:9 – If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to firgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

So I can know that God “did something I wanted” when I ask Him to forgive me – because He said He would.

And Vitter can know the same.

Coming from a politician caught with his pants makes it that much more dubious, self-serving and smarmy.

You are absolutely right about that. Had Blake issued a statement saying that he didn’t trust Vitter’s word as far as he could throw him, I would have whole-heartedly agreed.

y2church on July 10, 2007 at 11:07 AM

Blake, hehe, gotcha. I knew that you couldn’t let that pass. Why does it frustrate you so that I ommitted your obscene phrase?

So, you acted like a bigger nut in order to get a response from me? It worked! Act as crazy as you wish. But don’t cry foul when I and others comment on it. Oh, and bite me.

Blake on July 10, 2007 at 11:08 AM

Esthier on July 10, 2007 at 10:59 AM

1 Corinthians 2:11-13

For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man’s spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us. This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.

Esthier on July 10, 2007 at 11:11 AM

Had Blake issued a statement saying that he didn’t trust Vitter’s word as far as he could throw him, I would have whole-heartedly agreed.

No you wouldn’t. You would have come out with some lame religious doctrinaire about who are we to questions Vitter’s faith blah blah blah. Since you and esther are all about giving advice, I don’t think you are going to last posting here. But, you will start many long flame wars of a religious nature that the big A loves.

Blake on July 10, 2007 at 11:11 AM

And don’t try to tell me that it’s NOT like Muslims reacting to cartoons.

tickleddragon on July 10, 2007 at 11:05 AM

What?

I don’t want to kill Blake over this. I don’t want to protest over this. I don’t even want an apology.

Yes, I was offended. Am I not allowed to be offended when someone mocks God? Am I not allowed to respond online even when I don’t use threatening words or even name-calling?

To compare this to the Danish protests is to make light of the fatwa on the cartoonists heads.

Esthier on July 10, 2007 at 11:15 AM

y2church on July 10, 2007 at 10:29 AM

Lighten up, Francis.

Bad Candy on July 10, 2007 at 11:16 AM

LOL Blake. So I’m a nut for not quoting obscenity? Oh, and I’m not acting, I just don’t care for obscenity.

I’m reminded of a movie I watched recently where one character was freaking out because another character “swore” by spelling out “H. E. double hockey sticks.” Her reaction was “What kind of grown woman doesn’t swear!!!!” A third character’s response was “the kind that has a kid.”

Look, I’m a Christian and I’ve got four kids. I have sworn in front of them before, and I’m ashamed of it. I try to be a good example and not use obscene words or phrases. If it makes me a nut that I wouldn’t want them to read a post of mine with the phrase you used in it, then I hope I’m a roasted, salty one.

y2church on July 10, 2007 at 11:16 AM

Blake on July 10, 2007 at 11:11 AM

I’ve been here for over a year.

Esthier on July 10, 2007 at 11:16 AM

Does the party need to add sex crimes to its vetting list for candidates going forward?

Well, that will narrow the field. I’m not sure how many Star Trek fans would want to run for office, though.

Krydor on July 10, 2007 at 11:29 AM

Ok Bad Candy, sorry, but I don’t follow the Francis part. I’m a little slow sometimes. Fill me in please.
Thanks

y2church on July 10, 2007 at 11:32 AM

Here you go.

Bad Candy on July 10, 2007 at 11:39 AM

Yeah Blake, Esthier and I have both been here since the beginning. And as for not lasting long here, I’m not the one who launches into obscenities the first time someone disagrees with me.

Blake, you’re just wrong in your last post about how I would have reacted to you saying something like you don’t trust Vitter. I don’t know the man, so I can’t judge him one way or the other, but I too am suspect of politicians and their statements about faith, forgiveness, etc. when it suits their needs. Had you said that, we would be in agreement here, instead of the current regrettable disagreements.

And yeah, I’ve had the misfortune of being in some “religious flame wars” here, several of them involving the Big A himself. But know this, Esthier and I are sincere in our beliefs and will stand up for them as we feel necessary.

I try to keep my inner debater/arguer in check and only post in a kindly manner. If I ever lose control of that and truly “flame” out at someone, then I apologize in advance. I’m only human, but I know where forgiveness can be found.

y2church on July 10, 2007 at 11:41 AM

Why would Blake tell someone to bite him? I thought you didn’t bite the hand that fed you. Never mind. I get it.

captivated_dem on July 10, 2007 at 11:45 AM

Thanks Bad Candy,

I knew I had heard that somewhere before, but I couldn’t place it.

Sorry all, but I must retire at the current location. I have a couple of sons wanting some “daddy time.”

y2church on July 10, 2007 at 11:46 AM

Thanks for that, Bad Candy. Now I have to watch Stripes for the 20th time.

Krydor on July 10, 2007 at 11:48 AM

But know this, Esthier and I are sincere in our beliefs and will stand up for them as we feel necessary.

You’re sincere in inflicting your beliefs on others and in general being the forum sourpusses.

Blake on July 10, 2007 at 11:51 AM

Esthier on July 10, 2007 at 11:15 AM

No…it’s just the whiny “you hurt our feelings” over something so simple as a joke, that makes you like the muslims.

I’m not making light of the fatwas, I’m trying to tell you how much more you’re making of a simple joke.

tickleddragon on July 10, 2007 at 11:52 AM

Krydor on July 10, 2007 at 11:48 AM

HAHAHAHAHA!!

Bad Candy on July 10, 2007 at 11:52 AM

Wow, Bad Candy, if y2 was offended by bite me, God knows what he thought about your link. lol!

Blake on July 10, 2007 at 11:54 AM

I work for a medical billing company here in New Orleans and we did the billing for Vitter’s brother. Apparently, he, too, did some diddling…go figure!

Nolamom67 on July 10, 2007 at 12:00 PM

Blake on July 10, 2007 at 11:54 AM

Dunno. :P

Bad Candy on July 10, 2007 at 12:20 PM

You’re sincere in inflicting your beliefs on others and in general being the forum sourpusses.

Blake on July 10, 2007 at 11:51 AM

I’m inflicting nothing on no one. You inserted your opinion on God’s forgiveness. I explained to you, theologically, how it actually works, and you’ve taken to insults.

No…it’s just the whiny “you hurt our feelings” over something so simple as a joke, that makes you like the muslims.

My feelings weren’t hurt. You’re blowing my reactions out of proportion. All I’ve done is point out an offensive comment, one that was really out of place in this thread and had nothing to do with the subject matter.

I haven’t whined about how it made me feel.

And by the way, I only responded to the “presumptuous” comment. How is that meant to be a joke? Where’s the punch line in that one?

Esthier on July 10, 2007 at 12:22 PM

Esthier, lighten up! Blake’s just being a sarcastic smartass and you’re getting all pissy, mellow the f*ck out…

Bad Candy on July 10, 2007 at 12:32 PM

Did he lie about it under oath in front of a federal judge? No? Then who cares? His family and the voters of Louisiana can sort it out later.

Drew on July 10, 2007 at 12:45 PM

Is this why there aren’t any open mic nights at church?

James on July 10, 2007 at 12:45 PM

My feelings weren’t hurt. You’re blowing my reactions out of proportion. All I’ve done is point out an offensive comment, one that was really out of place in this thread and had nothing to do with the subject matter.

I haven’t whined about how it made me feel.

And by the way, I only responded to the “presumptuous” comment. How is that meant to be a joke? Where’s the punch line in that one?

Esthier on July 10, 2007 at 12:22 PM

I call that whining, yes.

And Blake’s joke WAS a joke…and it was funny.

tickleddragon on July 10, 2007 at 12:47 PM

If you’ve ever heard of Doug and Wendy Whiner…That’s the tone of voice I’m hearing when you speak now.

tickleddragon on July 10, 2007 at 12:47 PM

Even Islamic Rage Boy thinks this thread should lighten up.

saint kansas on July 10, 2007 at 12:48 PM

You know, I have absolutely no sympathy for an idiot who would do something this stupid, and actually think he could get away with it. Maybe there is still time for the people of his state to initiate a recall and get his dumb butt tossed out of his Senate seat.

pilamaye on July 10, 2007 at 10:33 AM

Funny, I took a similar attitude, at least in part. Vitter is my Senator; we voted and campaigned for him. BUT I can tell you now a recall will not and should not happen. This was remarkably bad judgment, but it certainly wasn’t *worse* judgment than shamnesty or BCRA, and a number of other bad ideas coming out of Congress that affect the entire country. It was personal bad judgment. Consequences, yes, but not resignation or recall.

Laura on July 10, 2007 at 12:54 PM

Is this why there aren’t any open mic nights at church?

James

That would be a church I would attend.

“What’s the deal with these wafers?”

“Ever notice how Protestants walk like this and Catholics walk like this?”

Krydor on July 10, 2007 at 12:56 PM

Which one is Carrie’s mom, Esthier or y2church?

max1 on July 10, 2007 at 1:02 PM

Good lord, folks…you’re sounding like Extremist Muslims.
Offended soooooo easily.

And don’t try to tell me that it’s NOT like Muslims reacting to cartoons.

tickleddragon on July 10, 2007 at 11:05 AM

Unless someone here is advocating that the other be beheaded for a perceived offense, then it isn’t.

baldilocks on July 10, 2007 at 1:05 PM

Yeah maybe one side is being a little heavy but the other side is starting to stray into HS territory.

EnochCain on July 10, 2007 at 1:11 PM

LoL Blake was funny as H E double hockeysticks!

Psycho 2000, and & Esthier (Mr. I’m not really religious but I always make sure to get involved in any topic remotely religious) Fun Fun! I love this. =D

frreal on July 10, 2007 at 1:30 PM

baldilocks on July 10, 2007 at 1:05 PM

The extreme religious oversensitivity over the smallest of jokes IS like the mussies overreaction. Head chopping or no.

Look, I consider myself religious and have a personal relationship with my Savior…but it doesn’t cause me to jump down somebody’s throat for saying they know the will of God…IN JEST.

tickleddragon on July 10, 2007 at 1:56 PM

Esthier, lighten up! Blake’s just being a sarcastic smartass and you’re getting all pissy, mellow the f*ck out…

Bad Candy on July 10, 2007 at 12:32 PM

Maybe my tone isn’t translating well over the internet, but I’m really not tense about this at all. I’m not angry or upset in any way shape or form.

I couldn’t be any more calm if someone handed me a joint.

If you’ve ever heard of Doug and Wendy Whiner…That’s the tone of voice I’m hearing when you speak now.

tickleddragon on July 10, 2007 at 12:47 PM

That’s your problem, but really I’m not making a big deal here. I made my point, was insulted for it, responded and now people are assuming I’ve gone nuts here.

Really, I don’t know how to make it any clearer, but I am not trying to turn this into anything other than what it was.

(Mr. I’m not really religious but I always make sure to get involved in any topic remotely religious)

It’s actually Mrs., and yeah, I generally do. I’m not much of a practicing Christian, but it’s as much a part of my identity as my gender or my political beliefs.

But to be clear, I don’t initiate these religious topics. I only respond when people feel the need to mock something they disagree with.

No one has to agree with me, but I really don’t get the need here for some to make these comments against Christians every time a topic has a two word or more mention of God.

That was my entire point. Some people here can’t let a single thread go by without making one of those comments and yet I’m being labeled the rabid one.

Again, I’m not pissed. I don’t even care to change anyone’s mind here. I just don’t get the desire to insult Christianity.

Esthier on July 10, 2007 at 1:58 PM

tickleddragon on July 10, 2007 at 1:56 PM

I didn’t jump down his throat, and that wasn’t even the comment that started this anyway.

If anything, you’re jumping all over me for something that should have been over long ago.

I asked a question; he made a sarcastic response which I called immature and have since been jumped on for calling immature.

Esthier on July 10, 2007 at 2:02 PM

(Mr. I’m not really religious but I always make sure to get involved in any topic remotely religious)
It’s actually Mrs., and yeah, I generally do. I’m not much of a practicing Christian, but it’s as much a part of my identity as my gender or my political beliefs.

Esthier, I knew you were female, but had no idea, based on the comments, that y2church was male. (Sounded like a woman to me. And I am one.)

The original “jump upon Blake” was not you, but y2church…so I imagine most of this was geared to him. I was reacting to the “jump upon Blake” for the joke…so if your comments were part of the pile on, then you deserve the comments. If not..my apologies. I agree with your religious sentiments…Just don’t agree with the need to preach to someone for a harmless joke.

tickleddragon on July 10, 2007 at 2:06 PM

God is a subject that should never be taken lightly.

y2church on July 10, 2007 at 10:29 AM

What do I do with this then?

Nonfactor on July 10, 2007 at 2:06 PM

Let’s be clear here. The MSM will deep-six any facts coming out about DEMOCRATIC politicans involved. It will take considerable research by the RNC to track down the DEMOCRAT Johns. I hope they do so and expose them, because you can bet that Rahm Emmanuel and Chuck Schumer already have teams of people identifying other Republicans.

So the Republicans had better start playing the same game.

georgej on July 10, 2007 at 2:07 PM

Just don’t agree with the need to preach to someone for a harmless joke.

tickleddragon on July 10, 2007 at 2:06 PM

And I was trying to preach. I was just expressing my disappointment.

What do I do with this then?

Nonfactor on July 10, 2007 at 2:06 PM

Whatever you want to do with it. Unlike the Koran, which has rules for nonMuslims to follow, Christian doctrine only applies to Christians.

Considering that a large portion of the earth’s population believes in some sort of spiritual experiences, it might be wise to think seriously about such matters as a way of edifying yourself, but that’s not a dictate for you to live your life by.

You are perfectly free to call God a zombie. If Christians are right in their beliefs, it’ll be the very least of your problems anyway.

Esthier on July 10, 2007 at 2:24 PM

If Christians are right in their beliefs, it’ll be the very least of your problems anyway.

Esthier

Imagine how crappy it would be if the Muslims are right…

Krydor on July 10, 2007 at 2:30 PM

a large portion of the earth’s population believes in some sort of spiritual experiences, it might be wise to think seriously about such matters as a way of edifying yourself

“Everyone else is doing it, common!”

You are perfectly free to call God a zombie. If Christians are right in their beliefs, it’ll be the very least of your problems anyway.

Esthier on July 10, 2007 at 2:24 PM

I’m banking on the fact that intergalactic leprechauns rule over our lives and that when we die our spirit (considering there is a bit of Irish in everybody) ascends to their kingdom of rolling green hills and waterfalls of whiskey. If the afterlife is anything but that I will be disappointed.

Nonfactor on July 10, 2007 at 2:30 PM

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