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	<title>Comments on: Video: Troops are protecting Sunnis, Shias, and Kurds, says Reid &#8212; so let&#8217;s start withdrawing</title>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Hillary to VFW: We&#8217;re making military progress, so let&#8217;s pull out; Update: Dems fret that Petraeus may report progress</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Hillary to VFW: We&#8217;re making military progress, so let&#8217;s pull out; Update: Dems fret that Petraeus may report progress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] scenario: good news from Iraq. I like the euphemisms the AP finds here for Reid&#8217;s notorious Senate-seats defeat dividend. [S]ome Democrats worry that credible reports of even slight improvements in the military situation [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] scenario: good news from Iraq. I like the euphemisms the AP finds here for Reid&#8217;s notorious Senate-seats defeat dividend. [S]ome Democrats worry that credible reports of even slight improvements in the military situation [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The obligatory &#8220;Guardian rat wishes death for Iraqi interpreters&#8221; post</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The obligatory &#8220;Guardian rat wishes death for Iraqi interpreters&#8221; post</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The money quote is the one about who the &#8220;true heroes&#8221; are but the important part is the last sentence. Once you accept that this is &#8220;George Bush&#8217;s war,&#8221; as even Hillary &#8220;Hawk&#8221; Clinton does, then you&#8217;ve got a free line of moral credit for every atrocity that may occur from here on out. 500,000 dead from ethnic cleansing post-withdrawal? Charge that to George Bush&#8217;s account and redeem the points you earn for Senate seats. In fact, if you regard Iraq, as the left does, as a paradigm Teachable Moment about intervention and warmongering and American hubris, then the more dead there are, the more teachable the moment becomes and the better off we are in the long run. That&#8217;s precisely where the turd who wrote the Guardian piece ends up, albeit via the circuitous route of condemning Iraqis who&#8217;ve assisted coalition troops in assisting the democratically elected Iraqi government as traitors to the mindless cause of &#8220;resistance.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The money quote is the one about who the &#8220;true heroes&#8221; are but the important part is the last sentence. Once you accept that this is &#8220;George Bush&#8217;s war,&#8221; as even Hillary &#8220;Hawk&#8221; Clinton does, then you&#8217;ve got a free line of moral credit for every atrocity that may occur from here on out. 500,000 dead from ethnic cleansing post-withdrawal? Charge that to George Bush&#8217;s account and redeem the points you earn for Senate seats. In fact, if you regard Iraq, as the left does, as a paradigm Teachable Moment about intervention and warmongering and American hubris, then the more dead there are, the more teachable the moment becomes and the better off we are in the long run. That&#8217;s precisely where the turd who wrote the Guardian piece ends up, albeit via the circuitous route of condemning Iraqis who&#8217;ve assisted coalition troops in assisting the democratically elected Iraqi government as traitors to the mindless cause of &#8220;resistance.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Video: Matthews, St. Cindy have meeting of the minds on Iraq</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/09/video-troops-are-protecting-sunnis-shias-and-kurds-says-reid-so-lets-start-withdrawing/comment-page-1/#comment-564218</link>
		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Video: Matthews, St. Cindy have meeting of the minds on Iraq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 23:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] He starts off with the tough questions &#8212; why did the neocons take us to war, are Bush and Cheney war criminals, etc. &#8212; then segues into the obligatory Libby question with the equally obligatory &#8220;PNAC&#8221; answer from Mother Sheehan. But the real chemistry comes at the end, when Chris expresses his sympathy for her position before summarizing the Democrats&#8217; dilemma: sure, cutting the funding is the right thing to do and will save countless lives &#8212; but what if Bush blames them and it costs them votes? What about those Senate seats they were promised? St. Cindy, bless her bleeding hippie heart, doesn&#8217;t much care about that, which proves she&#8217;s by far the more principled of the two here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] He starts off with the tough questions &#8212; why did the neocons take us to war, are Bush and Cheney war criminals, etc. &#8212; then segues into the obligatory Libby question with the equally obligatory &#8220;PNAC&#8221; answer from Mother Sheehan. But the real chemistry comes at the end, when Chris expresses his sympathy for her position before summarizing the Democrats&#8217; dilemma: sure, cutting the funding is the right thing to do and will save countless lives &#8212; but what if Bush blames them and it costs them votes? What about those Senate seats they were promised? St. Cindy, bless her bleeding hippie heart, doesn&#8217;t much care about that, which proves she&#8217;s by far the more principled of the two here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Video: Teddy &#8220;slips,&#8221; refers to Iraq as Vietnam</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/09/video-troops-are-protecting-sunnis-shias-and-kurds-says-reid-so-lets-start-withdrawing/comment-page-1/#comment-563528</link>
		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Video: Teddy &#8220;slips,&#8221; refers to Iraq as Vietnam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Via the C-SPAN-recordin&#8217; madmen of BTN. It&#8217;s an honest slip, I think. Years of &#8220;spirited living&#8221; have done strange things to Teddy&#8217;s mind, and besides, he&#8217;s off-message: the party line is that Iraq is much, much, much worse than Vietnam no matter what Peter Pace might tell you. It has to be. The VC can&#8217;t win you a presidential election anymore but jihadis good for plenty of Senate seats. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Via the C-SPAN-recordin&#8217; madmen of BTN. It&#8217;s an honest slip, I think. Years of &#8220;spirited living&#8221; have done strange things to Teddy&#8217;s mind, and besides, he&#8217;s off-message: the party line is that Iraq is much, much, much worse than Vietnam no matter what Peter Pace might tell you. It has to be. The VC can&#8217;t win you a presidential election anymore but jihadis good for plenty of Senate seats. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Audio: Kristol rips NYT, Senate &#8220;jackasses&#8221; on Iraq</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/09/video-troops-are-protecting-sunnis-shias-and-kurds-says-reid-so-lets-start-withdrawing/comment-page-1/#comment-546694</link>
		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Audio: Kristol rips NYT, Senate &#8220;jackasses&#8221; on Iraq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I like his plan for McCain and his point about letting Petraeus, whose appointment Congress ratified, being given a fair chance to implement his strategy is naturally well taken. But does anyone think things are going to be so vastly improved ten weeks from now that it might change the naysayers&#8217; minds about whether to begin a drawdown soon or not? The improvement would have to be so dramatic and impressive to the public that it would actually be in Harry Reid&#8217;s interest &#8212; which begins, of course, with those precious Senate seats he&#8217;s been dreaming of &#8212; to switch his vote? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I like his plan for McCain and his point about letting Petraeus, whose appointment Congress ratified, being given a fair chance to implement his strategy is naturally well taken. But does anyone think things are going to be so vastly improved ten weeks from now that it might change the naysayers&#8217; minds about whether to begin a drawdown soon or not? The improvement would have to be so dramatic and impressive to the public that it would actually be in Harry Reid&#8217;s interest &#8212; which begins, of course, with those precious Senate seats he&#8217;s been dreaming of &#8212; to switch his vote? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Video: All we are saying, says Bush, is give Petraeus a chance</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/09/video-troops-are-protecting-sunnis-shias-and-kurds-says-reid-so-lets-start-withdrawing/comment-page-1/#comment-545711</link>
		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Video: All we are saying, says Bush, is give Petraeus a chance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] B-H is the best he&#8217;s going to do now and he knows it. So does Reid, apparently, because he&#8217;s backing off his own explicit endorsement of B-H from five days ago (and implicit endorsement just yesterday) and calling now for the Democrats to &#8220;put some teeth in&#8221; to their withdrawal proposals above and beyond what B-H calls for. So it&#8217;s a three-way debate: &#8220;B-H now&#8221; for the Republicans, &#8220;B-H in September&#8221; for Bush, and &#8220;B-H Plus&#8221; for the Democrats. If they compromise and do what the public wants, Petraeus will get his two months &#8212; followed by an almost total withdrawal by April. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] B-H is the best he&#8217;s going to do now and he knows it. So does Reid, apparently, because he&#8217;s backing off his own explicit endorsement of B-H from five days ago (and implicit endorsement just yesterday) and calling now for the Democrats to &#8220;put some teeth in&#8221; to their withdrawal proposals above and beyond what B-H calls for. So it&#8217;s a three-way debate: &#8220;B-H now&#8221; for the Republicans, &#8220;B-H in September&#8221; for Bush, and &#8220;B-H Plus&#8221; for the Democrats. If they compromise and do what the public wants, Petraeus will get his two months &#8212; followed by an almost total withdrawal by April. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The State of Things at Can't See the Center</title>
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		<dc:creator>The State of Things at Can't See the Center</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The state of things...&lt;/strong&gt;

If we can&#039;t make the world safe for democracy, at least we can make it safe for the iPhone....</description>
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<p>If we can&#8217;t make the world safe for democracy, at least we can make it safe for the iPhone&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: volsense</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/09/video-troops-are-protecting-sunnis-shias-and-kurds-says-reid-so-lets-start-withdrawing/comment-page-1/#comment-544898</link>
		<dc:creator>volsense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 13:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This just proves one of life&#039;s lessons:  Never trust a talking cadaver.  Would any sane person turn the national security of our nation over to these cowardly democrats?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This just proves one of life&#8217;s lessons:  Never trust a talking cadaver.  Would any sane person turn the national security of our nation over to these cowardly democrats?</p>
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		<title>By: lynnv</title>
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		<dc:creator>lynnv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 12:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone told Dirty Harry that what he described our troops &lt;em&gt;should&lt;/em&gt; be doing is just what they &lt;em&gt;are&lt;/em&gt; doing?  And just when was the last time that Dirty Harry visited Iraq and asked our troops what they think should be done?  Has this liberal idiot &lt;em&gt;ever&lt;/em&gt; been to Iraq?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone told Dirty Harry that what he described our troops <em>should</em> be doing is just what they <em>are</em> doing?  And just when was the last time that Dirty Harry visited Iraq and asked our troops what they think should be done?  Has this liberal idiot <em>ever</em> been to Iraq?</p>
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		<title>By: georgej</title>
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		<dc:creator>georgej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Constitution gives members of Congress, both Houses, immunity for their behavior as legislators. The exact language is: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;They shall in all cases, &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;except treason&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;/strong&gt;felony and breach of the peace, be privileged from arrest during their attendance at the session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any speech or debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other place. [Article 1, Section 6, paragraph 1]&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Note, treason negates the immunity granted members of Congress. Not since the Civil War has this been an issue.  Until now, that is. What Reid is doing is perilously close to committing treason.  He is advocating and working towards the defeat of the United States during a time of war.

Of course, some think I&#039;m mistaken.  But I&#039;ve performed considerable research on the subject and here is what I&#039;ve found:

The Founders explicitly limited the declaration of war to the Congress. Neither the President nor the Judiciary can declare war. Further, the US Supreme Court has ruled that an authorization to use force passed by both Houses and signed into law as a public act is the same thing as a formal declaration of War.  

However, the Founders gave the President the exclusive and plenary power to wage war, not Congress. Included in the &quot;war powers&quot; is the exclusive Presidential determination of what strategy to use, when to use it, and the sole power to determine when hostilities have ended.  &lt;em&gt;Congress, according to the Constitution and case law has no say in HOW the war is waged.&lt;/em&gt;

That bears repeating: CONGRESS is not empowered by either the Constitution or by US Supreme Court decision to make decisions or policy on how to wage war.  That is the exclusive power of the President.  

Some, including some in government say that Congress is left with, or is reduced to, the power of the purse. That is to say, Congress can defund the war and, thus, prevent the waging of war.  Except, that this has never been done by ANY Congress, not even during the Vietnam War.  Then, Congress cut off funding after all combat and training troops had been removed from the country, not while our troops were still fighting.

Arguably, given the precedents, there is a view that once Congress has declared war (or authorized military force), that they cannot &quot;go back on their word&quot; and defund it because it would interfere with the President&#039;s ability to fight a war they authorized.  Declaring war, the Founders felt, was of such a serious nature -- one that would consume the blood and treasure of the (then) newly formed nation -- that they wanted Congress to be absolutly sure of the necessity AND, as representatives of the People and the States, to be the sole power to commit the nation to fighting.  But the Founders did not mention ONE WORD about Congress being able to end wars.  Not by &quot;the power of the purse.&quot;  Not by public law.  Not by statutory curtailment of the President&#039;s war powers, either. The Founders clearly limited Congress&#039;s role to that of determining when to go to war and only that.

The plain fact is that Congress cannot modify the Constitution by resolution.  It has to be formally amended. Passing funding cutoffs, after war has been declared (or the military use of force authorized) is not one of the powers Congress has because it is ursurping the ability of the President to wage war, a power that is his and only his.

Therefore, what Reid (and Levin) are doing is not only unconstitutional, but the act of doing so effectively sabotages the ability of the country to wage the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, and that borders on treason.  This is, I admit, a fine and close reading of the Constitution, but the logic is clear.

As near as I can tell, ONCE WAR HAS BEEN DECLARED, Congress no longer has the power to defund that war as it ursurps the powers of the plenary power of the President to wage it. Once war has been declared, Congress&#039;s role, as defined by the Constitution, is to (1) raise money to pay for it, (2) raise armies and provide training, (3) outfit the militia and train when necessary, (4) issues letter of Marque and Reprisal, (5) appoint courts to determine the disposition of prizes, and so on.  If Congress refuses to appropriate funds to fight the war, then they would betraying the troops fighting it and would be making decisions (de facto) concerning the waging of it (i.e., forcing the President to STOP waging war).  Causing the country to lose a war in progress is, clearly, treason.

Bush and Gonzales don&#039;t have the stones to do it, but they could indict Pelosi for violating the Logan Act for her visits to Syria, and Reid (and others, including Pelosi and Murtha) for treason.

Congress does have one method of dealing with a war they do not like (or do not like how it is being waged) -- they can &lt;strong&gt;FIRE the President &lt;/strong&gt;if they are unhappy about the way the war has been waged.  The process is called impeachment and removal by the Senate. To the best of my knowledge, this is the ONLY way Congress can disapprove of the way a war is run after approving the waging of it.  

The Founders crafted the Constitution to insure the survival of the nation, and thence liberty. The last thing they wanted is runing a war by committee as happened during the Revolution.  So they deliberately REMOVED the war powers from Congress and gave them to the President.  And they made sure that there was no language in the Constitution to allow Congress to change its mind once war was delcared.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Constitution gives members of Congress, both Houses, immunity for their behavior as legislators. The exact language is: </p>
<blockquote><p>They shall in all cases, <strong><em>except treason</em>, </strong>felony and breach of the peace, be privileged from arrest during their attendance at the session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any speech or debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other place. [Article 1, Section 6, paragraph 1]</p></blockquote>
<p>Note, treason negates the immunity granted members of Congress. Not since the Civil War has this been an issue.  Until now, that is. What Reid is doing is perilously close to committing treason.  He is advocating and working towards the defeat of the United States during a time of war.</p>
<p>Of course, some think I&#8217;m mistaken.  But I&#8217;ve performed considerable research on the subject and here is what I&#8217;ve found:</p>
<p>The Founders explicitly limited the declaration of war to the Congress. Neither the President nor the Judiciary can declare war. Further, the US Supreme Court has ruled that an authorization to use force passed by both Houses and signed into law as a public act is the same thing as a formal declaration of War.  </p>
<p>However, the Founders gave the President the exclusive and plenary power to wage war, not Congress. Included in the &#8220;war powers&#8221; is the exclusive Presidential determination of what strategy to use, when to use it, and the sole power to determine when hostilities have ended.  <em>Congress, according to the Constitution and case law has no say in HOW the war is waged.</em></p>
<p>That bears repeating: CONGRESS is not empowered by either the Constitution or by US Supreme Court decision to make decisions or policy on how to wage war.  That is the exclusive power of the President.  </p>
<p>Some, including some in government say that Congress is left with, or is reduced to, the power of the purse. That is to say, Congress can defund the war and, thus, prevent the waging of war.  Except, that this has never been done by ANY Congress, not even during the Vietnam War.  Then, Congress cut off funding after all combat and training troops had been removed from the country, not while our troops were still fighting.</p>
<p>Arguably, given the precedents, there is a view that once Congress has declared war (or authorized military force), that they cannot &#8220;go back on their word&#8221; and defund it because it would interfere with the President&#8217;s ability to fight a war they authorized.  Declaring war, the Founders felt, was of such a serious nature &#8212; one that would consume the blood and treasure of the (then) newly formed nation &#8212; that they wanted Congress to be absolutly sure of the necessity AND, as representatives of the People and the States, to be the sole power to commit the nation to fighting.  But the Founders did not mention ONE WORD about Congress being able to end wars.  Not by &#8220;the power of the purse.&#8221;  Not by public law.  Not by statutory curtailment of the President&#8217;s war powers, either. The Founders clearly limited Congress&#8217;s role to that of determining when to go to war and only that.</p>
<p>The plain fact is that Congress cannot modify the Constitution by resolution.  It has to be formally amended. Passing funding cutoffs, after war has been declared (or the military use of force authorized) is not one of the powers Congress has because it is ursurping the ability of the President to wage war, a power that is his and only his.</p>
<p>Therefore, what Reid (and Levin) are doing is not only unconstitutional, but the act of doing so effectively sabotages the ability of the country to wage the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, and that borders on treason.  This is, I admit, a fine and close reading of the Constitution, but the logic is clear.</p>
<p>As near as I can tell, ONCE WAR HAS BEEN DECLARED, Congress no longer has the power to defund that war as it ursurps the powers of the plenary power of the President to wage it. Once war has been declared, Congress&#8217;s role, as defined by the Constitution, is to (1) raise money to pay for it, (2) raise armies and provide training, (3) outfit the militia and train when necessary, (4) issues letter of Marque and Reprisal, (5) appoint courts to determine the disposition of prizes, and so on.  If Congress refuses to appropriate funds to fight the war, then they would betraying the troops fighting it and would be making decisions (de facto) concerning the waging of it (i.e., forcing the President to STOP waging war).  Causing the country to lose a war in progress is, clearly, treason.</p>
<p>Bush and Gonzales don&#8217;t have the stones to do it, but they could indict Pelosi for violating the Logan Act for her visits to Syria, and Reid (and others, including Pelosi and Murtha) for treason.</p>
<p>Congress does have one method of dealing with a war they do not like (or do not like how it is being waged) &#8212; they can <strong>FIRE the President </strong>if they are unhappy about the way the war has been waged.  The process is called impeachment and removal by the Senate. To the best of my knowledge, this is the ONLY way Congress can disapprove of the way a war is run after approving the waging of it.  </p>
<p>The Founders crafted the Constitution to insure the survival of the nation, and thence liberty. The last thing they wanted is runing a war by committee as happened during the Revolution.  So they deliberately REMOVED the war powers from Congress and gave them to the President.  And they made sure that there was no language in the Constitution to allow Congress to change its mind once war was delcared.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 08:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harry Reid is a snarky little prick!</description>
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		<title>By: JM Hanes</title>
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		<dc:creator>JM Hanes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 06:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I finally found an article that listed the wavering GOP Senators by name. According to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/07/09/ap3896474.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Forbes&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;Congressional Republicans, including most of those calling for a new Iraq strategy, were expected to oppose Levin&#039;s proposal to set a timetable for troop withdrawals. But various members were expected to propose alternative measures, including legislation calling on Bush to adopt as U.S. policy recommendations by the Iraq Study Group, which identified a potential redeployment date of spring 2008.

So far, six GOP senators - Lamar Alexander of Tennessee, Judd Gregg of New Hampshire, Robert Bennett of Utah, Susan Collins of Maine, John Sununu of New Hampshire and Pete Domenici of New Mexico - support such legislation.

Other prominent Republican senators, including Richard Lugar of Indiana, George Voinovich of Ohio, Chuck Hagel of Nebraska and Olympia Snowe of Maine, also say the U.S. should begin redeployments.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I know that Snowe is major RINO material, but it still shocked me to find a Republican, other than Chuck Hagel, saying (per the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.projo.com/news/johnmulligan/iraq_debate_07-10-07_R66AO7G.35ec65e.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Providence Journal&lt;/a&gt;), &quot;Obviously, the surge has not worked.&quot;  Even John Edwards wouldn&#039;t hazard such a statement three weeks into a major operation, if he were still a Senator from North Carolina.

Does anyone here know where I can find out how many guys from Maine are serving in Iraq?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I finally found an article that listed the wavering GOP Senators by name. According to the <a href="http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/07/09/ap3896474.html" rel="nofollow">Forbes</a>:<br />
<blockquote>Congressional Republicans, including most of those calling for a new Iraq strategy, were expected to oppose Levin&#8217;s proposal to set a timetable for troop withdrawals. But various members were expected to propose alternative measures, including legislation calling on Bush to adopt as U.S. policy recommendations by the Iraq Study Group, which identified a potential redeployment date of spring 2008.</p>
<p>So far, six GOP senators &#8211; Lamar Alexander of Tennessee, Judd Gregg of New Hampshire, Robert Bennett of Utah, Susan Collins of Maine, John Sununu of New Hampshire and Pete Domenici of New Mexico &#8211; support such legislation.</p>
<p>Other prominent Republican senators, including Richard Lugar of Indiana, George Voinovich of Ohio, Chuck Hagel of Nebraska and Olympia Snowe of Maine, also say the U.S. should begin redeployments.</p></blockquote>
<p>I know that Snowe is major RINO material, but it still shocked me to find a Republican, other than Chuck Hagel, saying (per the <a href="http://www.projo.com/news/johnmulligan/iraq_debate_07-10-07_R66AO7G.35ec65e.html" rel="nofollow">Providence Journal</a>), &#8220;Obviously, the surge has not worked.&#8221;  Even John Edwards wouldn&#8217;t hazard such a statement three weeks into a major operation, if he were still a Senator from North Carolina.</p>
<p>Does anyone here know where I can find out how many guys from Maine are serving in Iraq?</p>
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		<title>By: JM Hanes</title>
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		<dc:creator>JM Hanes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 06:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>smellthecoffee:

I still can&#039;t believe that I&#039;d acidentally double post the one comment I was too tired to edit for either clarity or length.   It&#039;s probably just as well that we appear to be the only ones here! The point that I managed to obsure was originally pretty straightforward:  As long as we&#039;re picking at somebody else&#039;s argument/narrative instead of promoting our own, we&#039;re loosing.  The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/08/opinion/08sun1.html?_r=2&amp;hp&amp;oref=slogin&amp;oref=slogin&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;New York Times&lt;/a&gt; laid out the competition&#039;s best case, and if we can&#039;t come up with a better story, the jig is up.</description>
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<p>I still can&#8217;t believe that I&#8217;d acidentally double post the one comment I was too tired to edit for either clarity or length.   It&#8217;s probably just as well that we appear to be the only ones here! The point that I managed to obsure was originally pretty straightforward:  As long as we&#8217;re picking at somebody else&#8217;s argument/narrative instead of promoting our own, we&#8217;re loosing.  The <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/08/opinion/08sun1.html?_r=2&amp;hp&amp;oref=slogin&amp;oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">New York Times</a> laid out the competition&#8217;s best case, and if we can&#8217;t come up with a better story, the jig is up.</p>
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		<dc:creator>smellthecoffee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 03:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A friend of mine just started this-- www.win-the-war.com  Check it out.  Refer some people.  We have to go viral in our opposition to this crap that&#039;s being shoved down our throats.  

I remember thinking, and I&#039;m sure many other have done the same, why didn&#039;t they stop Hitler while there was still time?  How could they fail to see what was coming?  We are watching the answers to those questions being played out right now.  Maybe when a nuclear Iran has control all the way through Syria into Lebanon, people will wake up.  At the eleventh hour, of course.  11:59, to be precise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend of mine just started this&#8211; <a href="http://www.win-the-war.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.win-the-war.com</a>  Check it out.  Refer some people.  We have to go viral in our opposition to this crap that&#8217;s being shoved down our throats.  </p>
<p>I remember thinking, and I&#8217;m sure many other have done the same, why didn&#8217;t they stop Hitler while there was still time?  How could they fail to see what was coming?  We are watching the answers to those questions being played out right now.  Maybe when a nuclear Iran has control all the way through Syria into Lebanon, people will wake up.  At the eleventh hour, of course.  11:59, to be precise.</p>
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		<dc:creator>smellthecoffee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 03:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, JM Hanes.  I&#039;m not sure I understood it all, but I agreed with what I did understand.  I&#039;m still stuck on this.  &quot;We shouldn&#039;t be in the middle of a civil war.&quot;  Ok, ok, side A is fighting side B, and we&#039;re in the middle--gotcha.  &quot;We should bring our troops home and end the war now.&quot;  Ok, got it.  So we get out of the middle and then side A and side B, um, hmm, they, what--stop fighting--oh dang it, you lost me, better start over again.  Ok Side A, and Side B, us in the middle, ok . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, JM Hanes.  I&#8217;m not sure I understood it all, but I agreed with what I did understand.  I&#8217;m still stuck on this.  &#8220;We shouldn&#8217;t be in the middle of a civil war.&#8221;  Ok, ok, side A is fighting side B, and we&#8217;re in the middle&#8211;gotcha.  &#8220;We should bring our troops home and end the war now.&#8221;  Ok, got it.  So we get out of the middle and then side A and side B, um, hmm, they, what&#8211;stop fighting&#8211;oh dang it, you lost me, better start over again.  Ok Side A, and Side B, us in the middle, ok . . .</p>
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		<title>By: JM Hanes</title>
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		<dc:creator>JM Hanes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 03:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, don&#039;t know how I double-tapped that one.  I blame &lt;strike&gt;Bush&lt;/strike&gt; Nancy.</description>
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		<title>By: JM Hanes</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/09/video-troops-are-protecting-sunnis-shias-and-kurds-says-reid-so-lets-start-withdrawing/comment-page-1/#comment-543842</link>
		<dc:creator>JM Hanes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 02:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;We simply don’t have the numbers.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

And that&#039;s the acid test for the conservative blogosphere, as it is for any minority, because we&#039;ll almost &lt;i&gt;never&lt;/i&gt; have the numbers.  Sure, we can rally public opinion, but can we actually influence it?  We spend most of our time preaching to the converted instead of figuring out how to challenge conventional wisdom where it counts.  There&#039;s plenty of intelletual firepower on this side of the argument; if we&#039;re not equpped to negotiate the rock &amp; the hard place we now confront, it&#039;s the template, stupid! 

Liberals didn&#039;t start out with the numbers either, but what they do have is a compelling &lt;i&gt;narrative&lt;/i&gt; which is almost impervious to the kind of fact checking endeavors we&#039;re all so good at.   Debunking is easy, and when we were in the majority on the war it may have seemed suffiicient, but we&#039;re still fisking away instead of developing a competitive narrative of our own.  If the pullout Democrats are looking for occurs, it won&#039;t just be an Adminstration failure, it will be ours too.

Make no mistake about it, there is a White House failure here, and no help on the way from that quarter.   They never understood the role of story telling in politics on the first place.  Folks may take offense, but they were selling immigration the same way they&#039;ve sold pretty much everything else, including Iraq.  Plan B is even simpler than Plan A:   You pull up the drawbridge and try to present the smallest, hardest target you can manage. You replace Rumsfeld with the lowest profile guy you can persude to take the job, and then create a war czar to confuse the field.

Before the &#039;06 election, we could get away with ignoring a defection by someone like Richard Lugar.  Unfortunately, with the President in full Turtle Mode, there&#039;s only one storyline in town.  It&#039;s Baker/Hamilton, the liberals &lt;i&gt;own&lt;/i&gt; it, and we have a decision to make.  We can keep on talking amongst ourselves, or we can work on figuring out how to engage the opposition where it counts.   The snark, and the ridicule, and the outrage we share are no substitute for a coherent argument, and they don&#039;t make an unpopular argument any easier to sell.

It&#039;s true that we can&#039;t just channel public opinion into Congress this time around, but if being in the minority is an unsurmountable obstacle, why are we even here? The war effort is at risk because of Republican defections, and that&#039;s something we &lt;i&gt;should&lt;/i&gt; be able to do something about.   Democrats have successfully made this George Bush&#039;s war, and that&#039;s a double whammy we&#039;ve got a lame duck President whose popularity has also tanked.  Maybe it&#039;s actually a stroke of luck that the Prez seems to have given up campaigning for the war, because Republicans need something to defend that is &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; Bush&#039;s war.  What they desperately lack  are cheat sheets on the Democrats &quot;facts&quot; and a comprehensive not-Bush set of talking points that knock your socks off.   

And guess what!  The New York Times just handed us that storyline on a silver platter.  They&#039;ve done the one thing that almost no Democrat but Murtha has been dumb enough to do till now:  they gave us an actual plan in all its misguided glory to build upon.  We&#039;re not talking WMD any more.  At long last, the Times has fully admitted to the consequences of withdrawing now, and the genocide they&#039;re virtually predicting takes the modest concept of acceptable collateral damage to dizzying new heights.  They&#039;ve collected every misbegotten assumption we&#039;ve been debunking piecemeal for years.  We can fisk it point by illogical point, or we can use it as new template.  They&#039;re not just showing us what we&#039;re fighting; they&#039;re also showing us how.   Will we rise to the challenge? The chips are down, and we&#039;re about to find out who is really in the game and who is &lt;i&gt;realistically&lt;/i&gt; just carping from the sidelines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;We simply don’t have the numbers.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>And that&#8217;s the acid test for the conservative blogosphere, as it is for any minority, because we&#8217;ll almost <i>never</i> have the numbers.  Sure, we can rally public opinion, but can we actually influence it?  We spend most of our time preaching to the converted instead of figuring out how to challenge conventional wisdom where it counts.  There&#8217;s plenty of intelletual firepower on this side of the argument; if we&#8217;re not equpped to negotiate the rock &amp; the hard place we now confront, it&#8217;s the template, stupid! </p>
<p>Liberals didn&#8217;t start out with the numbers either, but what they do have is a compelling <i>narrative</i> which is almost impervious to the kind of fact checking endeavors we&#8217;re all so good at.   Debunking is easy, and when we were in the majority on the war it may have seemed suffiicient, but we&#8217;re still fisking away instead of developing a competitive narrative of our own.  If the pullout Democrats are looking for occurs, it won&#8217;t just be an Adminstration failure, it will be ours too.</p>
<p>Make no mistake about it, there is a White House failure here, and no help on the way from that quarter.   They never understood the role of story telling in politics on the first place.  Folks may take offense, but they were selling immigration the same way they&#8217;ve sold pretty much everything else, including Iraq.  Plan B is even simpler than Plan A:   You pull up the drawbridge and try to present the smallest, hardest target you can manage. You replace Rumsfeld with the lowest profile guy you can persude to take the job, and then create a war czar to confuse the field.</p>
<p>Before the &#8216;06 election, we could get away with ignoring a defection by someone like Richard Lugar.  Unfortunately, with the President in full Turtle Mode, there&#8217;s only one storyline in town.  It&#8217;s Baker/Hamilton, the liberals <i>own</i> it, and we have a decision to make.  We can keep on talking amongst ourselves, or we can work on figuring out how to engage the opposition where it counts.   The snark, and the ridicule, and the outrage we share are no substitute for a coherent argument, and they don&#8217;t make an unpopular argument any easier to sell.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true that we can&#8217;t just channel public opinion into Congress this time around, but if being in the minority is an unsurmountable obstacle, why are we even here? The war effort is at risk because of Republican defections, and that&#8217;s something we <i>should</i> be able to do something about.   Democrats have successfully made this George Bush&#8217;s war, and that&#8217;s a double whammy we&#8217;ve got a lame duck President whose popularity has also tanked.  Maybe it&#8217;s actually a stroke of luck that the Prez seems to have given up campaigning for the war, because Republicans need something to defend that is <i>not</i> Bush&#8217;s war.  What they desperately lack  are cheat sheets on the Democrats &#8220;facts&#8221; and a comprehensive not-Bush set of talking points that knock your socks off.   </p>
<p>And guess what!  The New York Times just handed us that storyline on a silver platter.  They&#8217;ve done the one thing that almost no Democrat but Murtha has been dumb enough to do till now:  they gave us an actual plan in all its misguided glory to build upon.  We&#8217;re not talking WMD any more.  At long last, the Times has fully admitted to the consequences of withdrawing now, and the genocide they&#8217;re virtually predicting takes the modest concept of acceptable collateral damage to dizzying new heights.  They&#8217;ve collected every misbegotten assumption we&#8217;ve been debunking piecemeal for years.  We can fisk it point by illogical point, or we can use it as new template.  They&#8217;re not just showing us what we&#8217;re fighting; they&#8217;re also showing us how.   Will we rise to the challenge? The chips are down, and we&#8217;re about to find out who is really in the game and who is <i>realistically</i> just carping from the sidelines.</p>
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		<dc:creator>JM Hanes</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;We simply don’t have the numbers.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

And that&#039;s the acid test for the conservative blogosphere, as it is for any minority, because we&#039;ll almost &lt;i&gt;never&lt;/i&gt; have the numbers.  Sure, we can rally public opinion, but can we actually influence it?  We spend most of our time preaching to the converted instead of figuring out how to challenge conventional wisdom where it counts.  There&#039;s plenty of intelletual firepower on this side of the argument; if we&#039;re not equpped to negotiate the rock &amp; the hard place we now confront, it&#039;s the template, stupid! 

Liberals didn&#039;t start out with the numbers either, but what they do have is a compelling &lt;i&gt;narrative&lt;/i&gt; which is almost impervious to the kind of fact checking endeavors we&#039;re all so good at.   Debunking is easy, and when we were in the majority on the war it may have seemed suffiicient, but we&#039;re still fisking away instead of developing a competitive narrative of our own.  If the pullout Democrats are looking for occurs, it won&#039;t just be an Adminstration failure, it will be ours too.

Make no mistake about it, there is a White House failure here, and no help on the way from that quarter.   They never understood the role of story telling in politics on the first place.  Folks may take offense, but they were selling immigration the same way they&#039;ve sold pretty much everything else, including Iraq.  Plan B is even simpler than Plan A:   You pull up the drawbridge and try to present the smallest, hardest target you can manage. You replace Rumsfeld with the lowest profile guy you can persude to take the job, and then create a war czar to confuse the field.

Before the &#039;06 election, we could get away with ignoring a defection by someone like Richard Lugar.  Unfortunately, with the President in full Turtle Mode, there&#039;s only one storyline in town.  It&#039;s Baker/Hamilton, the liberals &lt;i&gt;own&lt;/i&gt; it, and we have a decision to make.  We can keep on talking amongst ourselves, or we can work on figuring out how to engage the opposition where it counts.   The snark, and the ridicule, and the outrage we share are no substitute for a coherent argument, and they don&#039;t make an unpopular argument any easier to sell.

It&#039;s true that we can&#039;t just channel public opinion into Congress this time around, but if being in the minority is an unsurmountable obstacle, why are we even here? The war effort is at risk because of Republican defections, and that&#039;s something we &lt;i&gt;should&lt;/i&gt; be able to do something about.   Democrats have successfully made this George Bush&#039;s war, and that&#039;s a double whammy we&#039;ve got a lame duck President whose popularity has also tanked.  Maybe it&#039;s actually a stroke of luck that the Prez seems to have given up campaigning for the war, because Republicans need something to defend that is &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; Bush&#039;s war.  What they desperately lack  are cheat sheets on the Democrats &quot;facts&quot; and a comprehensive not-Bush set of talking points that knock your socks off.   

And guess what!  The New York Times just handed us that storyline on a silver platter.  They&#039;ve done the one thing that almost no Democrat but Murtha has been dumb enough to do till now:  they gave us an actual plan in all its misguided glory to build upon.  We&#039;re not talking WMD any more.  At long last, the Times has fully admitted to the consequences of withdrawing now, and the genocide they&#039;re virtually predicting takes the modest concept of acceptable collateral damage to dizzying new heights.  They&#039;ve collected every misbegotten assumption we&#039;ve been debunking piecemeal for years.  We can fisk it point by illogical point, or we can use it as new template.  They&#039;re not just showing us what we&#039;re fighting; they&#039;re also showing us how.   Will we rise to the challenge? The chips are down, and we&#039;re about to find out who is really in the game and who is &lt;i&gt;realistically&lt;/i&gt; just carping from the sidelines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;We simply don’t have the numbers.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>And that&#8217;s the acid test for the conservative blogosphere, as it is for any minority, because we&#8217;ll almost <i>never</i> have the numbers.  Sure, we can rally public opinion, but can we actually influence it?  We spend most of our time preaching to the converted instead of figuring out how to challenge conventional wisdom where it counts.  There&#8217;s plenty of intelletual firepower on this side of the argument; if we&#8217;re not equpped to negotiate the rock &amp; the hard place we now confront, it&#8217;s the template, stupid! </p>
<p>Liberals didn&#8217;t start out with the numbers either, but what they do have is a compelling <i>narrative</i> which is almost impervious to the kind of fact checking endeavors we&#8217;re all so good at.   Debunking is easy, and when we were in the majority on the war it may have seemed suffiicient, but we&#8217;re still fisking away instead of developing a competitive narrative of our own.  If the pullout Democrats are looking for occurs, it won&#8217;t just be an Adminstration failure, it will be ours too.</p>
<p>Make no mistake about it, there is a White House failure here, and no help on the way from that quarter.   They never understood the role of story telling in politics on the first place.  Folks may take offense, but they were selling immigration the same way they&#8217;ve sold pretty much everything else, including Iraq.  Plan B is even simpler than Plan A:   You pull up the drawbridge and try to present the smallest, hardest target you can manage. You replace Rumsfeld with the lowest profile guy you can persude to take the job, and then create a war czar to confuse the field.</p>
<p>Before the &#8216;06 election, we could get away with ignoring a defection by someone like Richard Lugar.  Unfortunately, with the President in full Turtle Mode, there&#8217;s only one storyline in town.  It&#8217;s Baker/Hamilton, the liberals <i>own</i> it, and we have a decision to make.  We can keep on talking amongst ourselves, or we can work on figuring out how to engage the opposition where it counts.   The snark, and the ridicule, and the outrage we share are no substitute for a coherent argument, and they don&#8217;t make an unpopular argument any easier to sell.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true that we can&#8217;t just channel public opinion into Congress this time around, but if being in the minority is an unsurmountable obstacle, why are we even here? The war effort is at risk because of Republican defections, and that&#8217;s something we <i>should</i> be able to do something about.   Democrats have successfully made this George Bush&#8217;s war, and that&#8217;s a double whammy we&#8217;ve got a lame duck President whose popularity has also tanked.  Maybe it&#8217;s actually a stroke of luck that the Prez seems to have given up campaigning for the war, because Republicans need something to defend that is <i>not</i> Bush&#8217;s war.  What they desperately lack  are cheat sheets on the Democrats &#8220;facts&#8221; and a comprehensive not-Bush set of talking points that knock your socks off.   </p>
<p>And guess what!  The New York Times just handed us that storyline on a silver platter.  They&#8217;ve done the one thing that almost no Democrat but Murtha has been dumb enough to do till now:  they gave us an actual plan in all its misguided glory to build upon.  We&#8217;re not talking WMD any more.  At long last, the Times has fully admitted to the consequences of withdrawing now, and the genocide they&#8217;re virtually predicting takes the modest concept of acceptable collateral damage to dizzying new heights.  They&#8217;ve collected every misbegotten assumption we&#8217;ve been debunking piecemeal for years.  We can fisk it point by illogical point, or we can use it as new template.  They&#8217;re not just showing us what we&#8217;re fighting; they&#8217;re also showing us how.   Will we rise to the challenge? The chips are down, and we&#8217;re about to find out who is really in the game and who is <i>realistically</i> just carping from the sidelines.</p>
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		<title>By: oakpack</title>
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		<dc:creator>oakpack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 02:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reid&#039;s World, Reid&#039;s World. He really should have a theme song. Where does he come up with this stuff? It&#039;s certainly not from Iraqis or troops on the ground. Precipitous too what. Does he even hear what he&#039;s saying?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reid&#8217;s World, Reid&#8217;s World. He really should have a theme song. Where does he come up with this stuff? It&#8217;s certainly not from Iraqis or troops on the ground. Precipitous too what. Does he even hear what he&#8217;s saying?</p>
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		<title>By: Romeo13</title>
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		<dc:creator>Romeo13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 02:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK... wait a sec...

We&#039;re gonna leave troops to fight Al Q and terrorism...

And train Iraqis....

and support....

Uh... isn&#039;t that what we are doing now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK&#8230; wait a sec&#8230;</p>
<p>We&#8217;re gonna leave troops to fight Al Q and terrorism&#8230;</p>
<p>And train Iraqis&#8230;.</p>
<p>and support&#8230;.</p>
<p>Uh&#8230; isn&#8217;t that what we are doing now?</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas the Wraith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas the Wraith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 02:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may be old news but I hear that Sen Olympia Snowe will call for withdrawal from Iraq. So Bush is losing a Republican Senator every 5 days. How long can this last?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may be old news but I hear that Sen Olympia Snowe will call for withdrawal from Iraq. So Bush is losing a Republican Senator every 5 days. How long can this last?</p>
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		<title>By: PowWow</title>
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		<dc:creator>PowWow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 01:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On-my-soap-box on July 9, 2007 at 6:30 PM

&lt;/blockquote&gt;It succeeded. That&#039;s the only time I&#039;ve seen a smile on that clown&#039;s face since they took over the house. Scary when a corpse smiles. Also, people like this can get elected, but St. Cindy shouldn&#039;t be taken too seriously? hmmm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On-my-soap-box on July 9, 2007 at 6:30 PM</p>
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<p>It succeeded. That&#8217;s the only time I&#8217;ve seen a smile on that clown&#8217;s face since they took over the house. Scary when a corpse smiles. Also, people like this can get elected, but St. Cindy shouldn&#8217;t be taken too seriously? hmmm</p>
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		<title>By: aengus</title>
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		<dc:creator>aengus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 01:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Who are “they” that dropped the bomb? Is he blaming us and couldn’t say it or them and admitting we have a job to do.

Then, he smiled about the town being disintegrated!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In a way both. He thinks that Iraqis dropped the bomb but that every action and reaction in this conflict is traceable to the US. In other words he is denying the Iraqis human agency. This attitude is more contemptible than that of the colonial class that ran British India. It&#039;s a product of liberal narcissism and self-loathing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Who are “they” that dropped the bomb? Is he blaming us and couldn’t say it or them and admitting we have a job to do.</p>
<p>Then, he smiled about the town being disintegrated!</p></blockquote>
<p>In a way both. He thinks that Iraqis dropped the bomb but that every action and reaction in this conflict is traceable to the US. In other words he is denying the Iraqis human agency. This attitude is more contemptible than that of the colonial class that ran British India. It&#8217;s a product of liberal narcissism and self-loathing.</p>
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		<title>By: Insomniac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Insomniac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 01:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arrrrrrrggghhh!!!!!

*WHAM WHAM WHAM*

I just strangled my monitor...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arrrrrrrggghhh!!!!!</p>
<p>*WHAM WHAM WHAM*</p>
<p>I just strangled my monitor&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: tomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>tomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 00:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He comes out with these statements right after a bunch of innocent people have been slaughtered...no shame.  They aren&#039;t some sound bite dick head</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He comes out with these statements right after a bunch of innocent people have been slaughtered&#8230;no shame.  They aren&#8217;t some sound bite dick head</p>
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