Does the US have intelligence on the plans of our enemies?

Is the Surge really there for Iraq?

Or is it also an excuse to get more combat troops in Theatre?

krabbas on July 10, 2007 at 8:17 AM

Close, but I think its also a bit more than that.

The Left learned the wrong lesson from Viet Nam.

They engineered a defeat, and used that defeat to attain power here. They don’t see the consequences of the Viet Nam defeat… all they see is us loosing, and still winning the Cold War, with them getting more power.

They have internalized the idea that we can loose with no real consequence to America… after all, they being anti war and such, there are FEW on the left with kids in the military now. They don’t see that the best way to NOT get attacked, is to be feared.

Bin Laden wrote, based on Gen. Giap’s writing, how to defeat America… and the Dems are playing by his script… not intentionally, but by their very outlook they become predictable.

Something big is up in Lebanon

Oh sorry, I just got a little excited.

Iran has got to feel a little pinched. With Afghanistan on their east and Iraq on their west, we really have two FOBs to launch from if we took action against them.

The idealistic notion of democracy building was good in theory. Having two happy and prosperous democratic nations on either side of Iran could have inspired their moderates and liberals to rise up. In theory, it was a sound idea. In practice… well, we see how that’s going.

You might give the dems too much credit. Although, the consequences of their actions are helping to secure defeat for the US in the middle east, I don’t think their motivation is to have the country lose. I think their problem is that they somehow think that they can seperate the country from the president. I think they have a narrow tunnel vision that focuses on George Bush. Anything to cut him down is a victory, regardless of the consequences to national security.

We both agree on the consequences, which is a no brainer. It’s their motivation that’s the difference. I think you question their patriotism a little bit more than I do… Their actions are disgusting either way.

It’s going to be a wild ride over the next few years. And I am afraid it will be spun to benefit the democrats.

The surge looks like more like an attempt to secure our six before the start of hostilities with Iran and Syria. the most damage Iran and Syria can do when the balloon goes up is in Iraq and Isreal.

There are many things moving out in the night. Hopefully the White House is up to the task.

unseen on July 9, 2007 at 10:00 PM

Bingo, give unseen a prize Allah P, perhaps an iPhone with an extra battery? A friend of mine (a former Marine) told me several years ago before we went into Iraq (he served in the first Gulf war) that going after Saddam and his WMD’s was only a small part of the overall strategy, rather, Iraq is to be our FOB to get to Iran and Syria. So it would seem the 4 carrier groups (which in of itself is a whole lotta whoop ass) is there to cover our six (as unseen mentioned) as well as to give us a whole lot of other options!

Iran and Syria are attempting to thin out our military resources, this is why Iran is so involved in the insurgency in Iraq and the Hezzbolah incursion and scrap with Isreal last Summer was to probe the Isreali response.

Also, the Iranian mullahs may be insane, but they’re not stupid, they’ve known all along that our invasion of Iraq wasn’t soley to remove Saddam and his WMD’s, it was mainly to provide an FOB for later operations against them and Syria! This is precisely why it makes sense that Syria (with Iran) are going to start some S**T within Lebanon to further distract and thin our our military, but as someone else pointed out, they obviously don’t know their history becaue if they did they would heed Yamamotos telling and cryptic words, so I’ll go ahead and update Yamamotos words with a more current analogy that the mullahs should heed, “F**K with the best and you die like the rest!”

So hold on everyone, things are about to get crazy on “Mr. Jihad’s Wild Ride!!”

It’s time to harden the fark up, mates.

Alden Pyle on July 9, 2007 at 8:43 PM

LOL…I watched that video for the first time today…hilarious!

The more I see and read the more I tend to agree with you. While all Dems are not enemies, it appears that the Dem leadership is openly siding with our enemies. the rest appear to be following “orders” of these “leaders”

I say its time the White House investigate some of these peoples connection with regrads to national security.

Turn the FBI, NSA and CIA loose on these people and see what bugs scatter.

There is some serious geopoltics going on, with it appears the Dems siding with our present enemies. unseen on July 10, 2007 at 12:35 AM

That’s ’cause the Dhems are our present enemies.

I’m not sure. This is too neat. What possible advantage do the dems see in a USA defeat in the Middle East. Yes I can see an advantage for them in a Bush defeat but this has gone beyond the borders of Iraq. The Dems are now playing with the whole Middle East. The meetings with Syria and the Muslim brotherhood by top Dems and their insistent push to hand us a defeat in Iraq are signs of an agreement made. Do they think they can work with the jihadists?

There is some serious geopoltics going on, with it appears the Dems siding with our present enemies.

No matter how often the gov’t in Israel claims to “consider it,” they never really will.

Oh they are considering it. They just consider it to be a suicidal act, but they are considering it.

More likely the Dems made a deal with Bush, you give us our immigration amnesty bill and we will give you time in Iraq. Bush failed to deliver the immigration amnesty and now the Dem’s are getting revenge.

It wouldn’t surprise me if Syria tries to take over Lebanon and promptly massacres the remaining Christian population. Assad’s been eyeing that up for years.

Oh, and there is absolutely NO way in heck that the Israelis will give up the Golan – no matter how often it’s brought up in the media as a precursor to peace. Those are some big hills overlooking the Sea of Galilee and Syria used to shell Kibbutzes from them. That’s what would happen if the Israelis gave the Golan up again. No matter how often the gov’t in Israel claims to “consider it,” they never really will. Oh, and there’s still Land Mines up there from before 1967.

I wouldn’t question the timing too much. The Dems laid off the pres for a month or so because he was on the same side as them on amnesty. Now that it’s defeated, they can go back to attacking him daily and undermining him in anyway they can.

and Yes i know “question the timing ” has become a catch phrase of the left but in these events any reasonable person has to admit that the timing is very suspect.

Yes the dems always over compensate. But this IMO goes beyond simply being dupes. At the exact time that all our enemies are moving into forward offensive positions the dems decide to launch a frontal attack on the White house? The timing is just too suspect. It is almost has if they are working together. Maybe some of the anti-war groups pushing the dems are really wolves in sheep clothing.

It would not be a surprise. The USSr used antiwar groups to push their war aims. Would not the jihadists do the same?

I know it’s not PC but shouldn’t the White House start some invesigations of its own on the congress?

Exit question two: If Syria pulls it off, can Israel afford not to act?

So what do we do when the desert turns to glass? Where glass skates?

boomer on July 9, 2007 at 10:29 PM

I actualy read it a bit differently.

There is a large portion of America, or any democracy for that matter, who make decisions based on Emotion, self interest, and whats “popular”.

Right now its the environmental movment… Lots of power, lots of money, and totaly short sited.

Thing is, if you actualy SCARE those people, they get downright unreasonable.

Do you know that there was mass panic on the West Coast of the US after Pearl? No way they could invade us, but we had panic anyway.

Key was that the emotional folks got scared, and demanded that the rational folks do what they wanted to do in the first place…. luckily we got it done before the emotional reaction had really worn off (although it was very close, we were almost bankrupt, and an antiwar peace movement was starting).

IMO if we had been hit within a year of 9/11 we wouldn’t be in this spot with Congress… in fact the Dems would be screaming that we do MORE to protect them.

It’s between the brothers, Kate.

It’s time to harden the fark up, mates.

Alden Pyle on July 9, 2007 at 8:43 PM

Unfortunatly, our govt. has been castrated.

Tell me… wasn’t it a DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT (FDR) who interred the Japanese here in America? Who bombed Hiroshima?

Romeo13 on July 9, 2007 at 10:25 PM

Ya, well that was when this nation had resolve. WWI had not really been long before. Even then we did try to stay out of it but, that great generation knew what had to be done. You see back then people actually loved their country.