Feds plan durable new electric fence to keep out foreigners

posted at 12:44 pm on July 9, 2007 by Allahpundit

It’s long overdue, say experts. And naturally, it’s already over budget.

But can we afford not to prevent this Great Lakes reconquista?

The voracious carp, which can grow to 50 pounds, are within 50 miles of the lake, and the only thing stopping them from completing the journey is an underwater “electric fence,” which the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers constructed under the canal. It was activated in 2002 — the first such barrier ever installed in a navigable waterway…

The Corps is planning to replace the original barrier with a new, more powerful one capable of lasting at least 20 years, but that project is in limbo because of funding shortfalls and safety concerns…

To finish the job … the Corps needs an estimated $6.9 million beyond the original $9.1 million price tag. The funding is included in the Water Resources Development Act, which is in the hands of a congressional conference committee.

Joel Brammeier, associate director of the Alliance for the Great Lakes, said congressional action to finish the barrier is desperately needed, but it is already too little, too late.

“This should have been built and turned on years ago, but it’s still a temporary solution to a permanent problem,” he said.

Bush is proposing a “virtual carp fence” involving hundreds of Carp Patrol Agents to monitor the fish’s movement. Tune in tonight to “The O’Reilly Factor” when Bill will debate the subject with noted pro-carp advocate Geraldo Rivera, who says he’s “stricken” by public support for the fence and regards carp eaters as “no better than camp guards at Auschwitz, really.”

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Keep out Carp! How nice! Just what we need a Crapfense!

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on July 9, 2007 at 12:47 PM

They do the jobs American fish won’t do…

Carp Amnesty Now!

JetBoy on July 9, 2007 at 12:49 PM

Trent Lott’s goats are not pleased.

Slublog on July 9, 2007 at 12:49 PM

Amazing that a fence protecting against fish can get built but not one that will protect us against terrorists.

Spacen on July 9, 2007 at 12:58 PM

We have terrorists, drug traffickers and other criminal elements crossing over the southern border with impunity and the government is worried about FISH?

I’m Outraged!

Forget the Fish! It’s the illegals stupid!

Bush is proposing a “virtual carp fence” involving hundreds of Carp Patrol Agents to monitor the fish’s movement.

I’m waiting for Bush to call citizen fisherman “vigilantes”.

Guardian on July 9, 2007 at 12:59 PM

Who knew we had an Underwater Electric Border Patrol?

CP on July 9, 2007 at 1:00 PM

That last line is hilarious!

Clark1 on July 9, 2007 at 1:00 PM

But can we afford not to prevent this Great Lakes reconquista?

Ah, but it’s only fair, we took the lakes from them first…if you believe in the world according to carp.

James on July 9, 2007 at 1:03 PM

That last line is hilarious pathetic!

Clark1 on July 9, 2007 at 1:00 PM

FTFY

Guardian on July 9, 2007 at 1:03 PM

Everybody knows that fences don’t work. Mike CherkOff says so. In fact when you look at a prisons, those fences are just ornamental. The prisoners are exercising the honor system.

TheSitRep on July 9, 2007 at 1:07 PM

What a load of Carp

wecoyote6969 on July 9, 2007 at 1:08 PM

Hold on now, I live in Michigan and one of the MAJOR threats to the great lakes is invasive species. The salmon and lake trout populations are already on the decline because these carp eat all the food that the slamon and trout feed on. Hence the fence. Michigans economy is in the crapper because of the domestic auto industry woe’s,and a moronic democratic governor, we dont need to lose tourism dollars and our fishing industry. Otherwise we will just shut off the water tap adn watch the rest of you sucker go thirsty

deadbackpacker on July 9, 2007 at 1:08 PM

A chef in Taiwan is in hot water with animal lovers for serving deepfried carp – while their heads are still twitching.

This may be a better solution.

At least we’ll offset some of the costs associated with the fence.

Zaire67 on July 9, 2007 at 1:11 PM

re: last post it should read; because these invasive species eat all the food that the salmon and trout feed on.

deadbackpacker on July 9, 2007 at 1:11 PM

Couldn’t we use high-tech surveillance instead?
You know something comprehensive.

TheSitRep on July 9, 2007 at 1:12 PM

What are you all carping about?

captivated_dem on July 9, 2007 at 1:24 PM

Brings a whole new meaning to “catch and release”!

Let me know when two Border Patrol Fisherman are jailed for failing to report hook damage of a “really big fish” to the Department of Natural Resources.

db on July 9, 2007 at 1:25 PM

What about the Zebra Snails?

Griz on July 9, 2007 at 1:25 PM

Here’s video of illegal alien carp at a day-labor hiring site…eating the stale bread American carp just won’t eat.

saint kansas on July 9, 2007 at 1:25 PM

Carp Amnesty bill in 5,4,3,2,…

Guardian on July 9, 2007 at 1:26 PM

All fish have a right to travel freely. It’s just pathetic that certain bigots would prevent these fish from attempting to make a better life for their children. These are good, hard working fish.

Gregor on July 9, 2007 at 1:27 PM

What about the Zebra Snails?

The Wall Street Journal just ran an article on zebra mussels, and Michigan State Senator Patty Birkholz (a Republican) is on the case. They’ve been sneaking across the border in ballast tanks.

The WSJ also just ran an article on poor Slovak teens struggling to find summer jobs in the U.S. — jobs that American teens just won’t do anymore. Boo effing hoo.

saint kansas on July 9, 2007 at 1:33 PM

“What a load of Carp”, said Dyslexic Boy.

PatrickS on July 9, 2007 at 1:40 PM

The real answer to this problem is to go after the folks that are employing these carp. If they can’t get jobs are social services they will go home.

conservnut on July 9, 2007 at 1:43 PM

And naturally, it’s already over budget.

So what? It’ll still be a fraction of the budget, despite being one of the most important issues facing America today.

AlexB on July 9, 2007 at 1:48 PM

Check this out. This is what happens when the federal government fails to enforce immigration laws.

Thanks John McCain, Lindsy Graham, teddy, Arlan Specter and the rest of you worthless flunkies. Wake up and do your job..You took an oath so deal with it.

saiga on July 9, 2007 at 1:59 PM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19466978/from/ET/

Watch the video.

saiga on July 9, 2007 at 2:01 PM

Flash: Carp found to be tunneling under lake boarder fencing…

Brings new meaning to: Carpal Tunnel Syndrome

soulsirkus on July 9, 2007 at 2:55 PM

This is actually vey series. Considering that the initial release of these carp came in Arkansas, I wonder if a certain Presidential candidate and her husband are involved.

steveegg on July 9, 2007 at 3:25 PM

Come on, already. Everyone knows that if we build a 20-foot fish fence, some fish will build a 21-foot fish ladder.

Bigfoot on July 9, 2007 at 3:39 PM

All carp already inside the country will be issued with an ID card and are to pay 1$ within 2 years, after 5 years in the country, they are to pay another 3$ and will be issued with a full green card. This will encourage other carp that are waiting to get in to apply through the proper channels. If you ask “why would they do this, if they can just swim in for free?!” then you are a bigot.

Aylios on July 9, 2007 at 4:09 PM

Bush and the senate are trying to push a bill to implement an electronic fence so that we know how many of the carp reaches the lake.

SIJ6141 on July 9, 2007 at 5:21 PM

Don’t Whiz On The Electric Fence! :D

Ryan Gandy on July 9, 2007 at 5:34 PM

The solution—carpooling.

saved on July 9, 2007 at 9:30 PM

Guys, guys ..

There’s no way we can round up 12 million carp and deport them all, especially not without destroying carp families and destroying the lives of all the little carp fry.

Besides, they just hang out in still water pools waiting for work, they’re not hurtng anybody.

Herikutsu on July 9, 2007 at 10:53 PM