Also, Go Romney! Support the man who’s actually in the race whose worst scandal is apparently a dog on top of a moving vehicle.

That poor pooch!

logis on July 6, 2007 at 10:57 PM
Still not ready for the adult table are you? Look up the word “recalcitrant”. Take.it.to.heart.

csdeven on July 7, 2007 at 1:52 AM

It means “disobediant.” So, now what? The act of proving that I know how to speak English will now magically make you stop being an egomaniacal sociopath?

Or, wait a minute…. The nutjob is trying to say that I’m not doing what he tells me to, and that somehow makes me a “child?”

Yikes.

Vol, consider my request for that link expired. There is no way you’re ever proving that point now. Don’t even bother trying.

logis on July 6, 2007 at 10:57 PM

Still not ready for the adult table are you? Look up the word “recalcitrant”. Take.it.to.heart.

That might’ve been me. Csdeven does post good common conservative sense on other threads. She just doesn’t like Fred.

Even after six years of constant ginning, some moonbats have STILL not reached this level of apoplectic bile toward George Bush.
True enough, but the fact remains that fred? has reached that level in describing himself.
csdeven on July 6, 2007 at 10:16 PM

OK, a little help here: somebody said this guy once typed something (on a different subject) that didn’t sound like something a deranged third-grader would say.

I’m going to have to ask for a link to that. Sorry, but I find it just a tiny bit hard to believe this has NOTHING to do with a head injury and/or or chemical imbalance.

Otherwise, it’s asking a bit much for me to believe that a more-or-less ordinary person instantly turns into this gibbering pile of spasmodic reflex at the mere mention of one name, but not for any other reason.

Just not buying it here.

Even after six years of constant ginning, some moonbats have STILL not reached this level of apoplectic bile toward George Bush.

True enough, but the fact remains that fred? has reached that level in describing himself. He brags on the fact that his TV character is what lots of people are supporting him for.

How do you square that with your accusation here:

I know it seems impossible anyone could be this mind-bogglingly stupid, but did you know there are actually retards out there who assume he’s achieved this because of a bit part he played in a marginally popular TV show?

Take it up with fred? dude. He’s the one who is suckling that teat.

I wonder if fred? knows he is mind-bogglingly stupid?
csdeven on July 6, 2007 at 7:39 PM

Even after six years of constant ginning, some moonbats have STILL not reached this level of apoplectic bile toward George Bush. And now it’s happened within just a couple of months with Fred Thompson.

I’ve often wondered whether, deep down inside, any of the moonbats knew that their handlers had absolutely no intention of wasting all of that time and money, and the plan had always been to transfer the scent as soon as a new conservative front-runner came about.

Obviously, even now it, would do no good to ask. But it doesn’t really matter anyway. Whether or not they know is irrelevant; I’m convinced they don’t even have the capacity to care why they’re feeling what they’re feeling.

jdawg on July 6, 2007 at 7:42 PM

jdawg…I agree with you….. how can I not agree with a brother at arms,.. yet I feel that this one issue can cover and solve most of the other problems we are facing as a nation..and putting together a good cabinet,..and he’ll do just fine..

You know, for a guy whos waaay out there, he’s right. His freedom message may take it a bit far, but i think he’s on to something here. Alot of typically apolitical citizens casually agree with SOME of what he says. Especially the youth.

Now what you have is a message, albeit an underdeveloped one, with a) a small but HARDCORE diehard base, b) an apolitical mass who in passing tends to agree with a libertarian slant, and c) a slow meltdown of the peoples trust in the 2 party system.

Now of course Paul isnt a candidate who could do anything serious, but its a powerful message at a time when something like 65% of Americans think a 3rd party could do good here. Someone should ask the official libertarian party how they plan on developing this, now that we kno Paul can raise a couple mil.

Sorry sweetie, I’ll be buying you that drink. ;-)

csdeven on July 6, 2007 at 6:07 PM

Either way w/b wonderful. I’d be the best drink I ever had, as I’m not that fond of them.

However, I don’t view Rudy as reliably conservative, even excluding his social views. He’s a RINO… or “moderate” if you prefer.

I view him as a reliable conservative on defense and terrorism, economic issues (including taxes), health care and welfare issues, education, crime and public decency, and numerous international policy areas.

I view him as moderate to liberal on immigration, gun control, abortion, and gay rights.

If you haven’t lived in New York City, and watched his battles with the liberal establishment here, you might not appreciate his attitude, but rest assured that he would not accommodate leftist silliness if he were President.

The general formula for most of his positions is more liberty plus more security. There has been some friction between these two priorities Re: gun control in the past, but overall, I don’t think that disqualifies him as a Republican.

I like Tancredo as well, but I fear he’s seen as too much of a single-issue candidate, and I doubt he’ll make it through the primaries.

I know it seems impossible anyone could be this mind-bogglingly stupid, but did you know there are actually retards out there who assume he’s achieved this because of a bit part he played in a marginally popular TV show?

You do realize that is what freddie boy thinks also. On the Leno show he bragged that his part in that TV show was why he was so popular. I wonder if fred? knows he is mind-bogglingly stupid?

Sure. They’re called “conservatives.” And Reagan couldn’t have gotten elected, and he couldn’t have governed effectively, without us.

Not everyone who voted for Reagan was a conservative. However, I do agree with you that a coalition is needed.

We just had six years of being able to support a RINO when we agreed with right around half of what he said.

So Bush is a RINO? I don’t think we’ll have a more conservative President that Bush in 2009.

There is not now, there never has been, and there never will be such a thing as “moderate support” or “moderate opposition.” Both of those phrases are oxymorons. People with no coherent political opinion will always be followers – nothing else is possible. And trying to pretend otherwise will accomplish nothing.

Many moderates do have coherent political philosophies, conservative on some issues and liberal on others. For instance, since guns and gay marriage have almost nothing to do with one another, one can have any combination of pro/con and still be consistent. We just like to pick and choose on an issue by issue basis, rather than sticking to some party platform. Who, again, are the followers?

I know it seems impossible anyone could be this mind-bogglingly stupid, but did you know there are actually retards out there who assume he’s achieved this because of a bit part he played in a marginally popular TV show?

Yeah, I’ve seen the threads on the lefty blogs- they’re scared of him while also deriding him as an empty suit who his supporters are simply star-struck by because of his acting career. Projection from the style over substance lefty crowd I guess.

Conservative and social conservative aren’t necessarily the same thing- one can be a social moderate yet still a conservative in my view.

However, I don’t view Rudy as reliably conservative, even excluding his social views. He’s a RINO… or “moderate” if you prefer.

Bush is a social conservative, but otherwise a moderate, and therein lies the trouble- he’s not a true conservative. I’m not willing to risk another “moderate” like Rudy to push amnesty and big government down our throats.

Ever heard of Reagan Democrats?

Sure. They’re called “conservatives.” And Reagan couldn’t have gotten elected, and he couldn’t have governed effectively, without us.

We just had six years of being able to support a RINO when we agreed with right around half of what he said. We weren’t perfect at it, but it was a damned hard job. We have more than earned the right to make sure that never happens again.

Now, since the 2006 elections, George Bush is a lame duck so we have no political stake in him. But, hey, look at the bright side: Bush still has all that tremendous “moderate support” he’s built up by being so wonderfully flexible.

Now, how’s that working out for him?

Newsflash: There is not now, there never has been, and there never will be such a thing as “moderate support” or “moderate opposition.” Both of those phrases are oxymorons. People with no coherent political opinion will always be followers – nothing else is possible. And trying to pretend otherwise will accomplish nothing.

In any case, there’s 6 months to go before Super Tuesday, and without having even announced Fred has in a relatively short time gone from single digit support to first or second depending on which poll you believe. Unfortunately Rudy could still win it, but Fred’s chances are looking pretty good right about now.

I know it seems impossible anyone could be this mind-bogglingly stupid, but did you know there are actually retards out there who assume he’s achieved this because of a bit part he played in a marginally popular TV show?

As crazy as it sounds, the moonbats are utterly convinced it’s everyone else BESIDES them who don’t understand the difference between fantasy and reality.

They were wrong in 1980. And I’d say the odds are pretty darned high they’re wrong this time too.

Your statement that you won’t marginalize people as “RINOs” unless they vote for “RINOs” over conservatives struck me as silly. Whether you like it or not, there are moderates, and dare I say, liberals (libertarians) in the Republican party. The designation of the (R) party as conservatives is a relatively recent phenomenon. Social conservative Republicans make up maybe 30% of the electorate (if that much), so the party needs the others in order to win any kind of majority nationally. Frankly, the more moderate wing of the party gets a bit peeved at the SoCons for always threatening to throw a fit if the nominee doesn’t agree with every one of their collective policy positions. We’re already marginalized within the party, do you really want to chase us off for good? If you really think we’re at a critical point in the country’s history, maybe you should consider building the coalition rather than trying to tear it down. Ever heard of Reagan Democrats? He couldn’t have won without them.

I agree with Dick and more importantly so does fred?. He himself said he was benefiting from his TV character. It’s clear that fred? is starting to believe his own hype and that is just another strike against his character as a person. That’s sad.

He’s another actor?

csdeven on July 6, 2007 at 6:05 PM

No, he’s as real as you are. :)