The Fredheads have a fever and the only prescription is more … Ron Paul? Update: Paul has more cash on hand than McCain
posted at 1:04 pm on July 6, 2007 by Allahpundit
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They took a hard look at their options and realized there’s only one Man Who Can Save America, and that’s the capital-p Patriot with two first names and two lips to chap on the collective ass of America’s Truthers.
No, actually, it seems to be some sort of elaborate parody site. An amusing one, too: poke around the forums (here, for example) and note the posts by “Neocon4Fred” and “NeoConsRule”. Exit question: Is “Jason Francis” an actual Fredhead or just a foil for the Pauline hordes?
45-45, by the way, in case you’re keeping track.
Update: Tremble before the fundraising power of the Truther hordes! No, actually, that’s as much a testament to the feebleness of St. John’s campaign as to Paul’s grassroots support. How bad has it gotten? He’s firing staffers in Florida, where the first truly major primary will be held in January.
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…need more COWBELL!
tickleddragon on July 6, 2007 at 1:08 PM
Yeah, gotta love “GoFred”’s signature:
amerpundit on July 6, 2007 at 1:11 PM
After all the stupid poll spamming, this effort from the Ron Paul supporters actually made me smile.
frankj on July 6, 2007 at 1:15 PM
Just like you, Fred puts his pants on one leg at a time. The difference is, when his pants are on, he saves America.
bmac on July 6, 2007 at 1:15 PM
Yeah, it looks a bit bogus to me. Not worth spending any time on.
jdawg on July 6, 2007 at 1:16 PM
Now we know what csdeven’s been up too! ;)
KelliD on July 6, 2007 at 1:16 PM
This is interesting, too. Apparently, “Fred08″ likes Ron Paul.
MMikeyJ responds:
amerpundit on July 6, 2007 at 1:17 PM
“gnats swarming around the warhorse”, as it were.
Schweggie on July 6, 2007 at 1:19 PM
Wasn’t Fred! supposed to announce on July 4th? Did I miss it?
bambam on July 6, 2007 at 1:20 PM
One commenter says:
I came here looking for information on Fred Thompson, but you people sound like the hitler youth.
I am totaly disgusted! And you people should be ashamed of yourselfs. After reading these posts I think i’ll go find another candidate to support.
GoFred responds:
“Alabama” responds:
Yep. Looks like a Fred supporter smearing site by Paulites.
amerpundit on July 6, 2007 at 1:20 PM
KelliD on July 6, 2007 at 1:16 PM
Heh.
jdawg on July 6, 2007 at 1:22 PM
I just want to know one thing: where can I get my own cult? It seems like that would be pretty handy, people worshipping you like mindless zombies. Sure, they’re weird people, but that wouldn’t prevent them from washing my truck or mowing my yard.
ReubenJCogburn on July 6, 2007 at 1:27 PM
Hilarious! The lengths that some people will go to… :)
DCJeff on July 6, 2007 at 1:32 PM
I certainly hope this is a Ron Paul supporter site…I’d like to think any FredHeads out there would not act like that.
Thanks Frank for delving into this…
JetBoy on July 6, 2007 at 1:36 PM
Selling pot is profitable. I guess; if RP has 2.4 million on hand.
lorien1973 on July 6, 2007 at 1:36 PM
He pushed it back to the 15th or something. Guess he needs more time to figure out if he wants to run or not :/
lorien1973 on July 6, 2007 at 1:37 PM
Damn, I got my Fred! thank you for your donation letter today. To think I could have donated elsewhere to really make a difference. Sorry Ron, I’ll forever kick myself for not supporting you, or Rudy, or Mitt, or McCain, or Brownback, or Huckabee, or Hunter, or Tancredo. What could I have possibly been thinking?
Limerick on July 6, 2007 at 1:38 PM
Fred!mania IS starting to seem a little bit like Paulmania. You guys should turn it down a notch or two.
Big S on July 6, 2007 at 1:38 PM
Let’s cut to the chase: Ron Paul is a douche.
And my single biggest concern about Fred! seems to have been addressed…
Jaibones on July 6, 2007 at 1:40 PM
So what? It’s all fiat currency.
daveintexas on July 6, 2007 at 1:41 PM
Exit answer: Francis actually appears to be authentic, and thought he was on a real Fred support site. His one comment asks:
amerpundit on July 6, 2007 at 1:41 PM
anyone looked up to see who this site is registered to? some investigative reporting would be nice.
wouldn’t suprise me if this is a Soros funded site. They want nothing more than to divide the repubs.
jp on July 6, 2007 at 1:42 PM
Or, he’s pulling an iPhone. Not necessarily a bad thing.
amerpundit on July 6, 2007 at 1:43 PM
Like I have said many times, having Ron Paul in the race is fun. There is no doubt many people are fed up with the usual political dribble. At least Ron Paul makes people think. I like to listen to him. The rest of the pack is just the SOS.
saiga on July 6, 2007 at 1:43 PM
Oh please let this turn into a Paul vs. Thompson smackdown thread! That would be awesome! Fight! FIGHT!
Big S on July 6, 2007 at 1:46 PM
Evidently that small number of “loud people” standing up against shamnesty were a little bit larger then Sen McCain initially thought. I don’t think it helped John much either to come out yesterday in praise of Sarkozy’s courage to fight… yes global warming. There comes a time when I think John McCain should step back and take a look at the Republican party and recognize the fact that he does not represent us. I just hope he has the wisdom to leave quietly.
Zetterson on July 6, 2007 at 1:46 PM
Whois gives the following data:
It appears to be a fake company. Note the 2 Ts in Thompson. Second, if it’s real, someone went through the trouble of registering a corporation, not just an LLC. LLCs require “Limited”, “Limited Company”, “LTD.”, “Lt. Co,”, “LLC”, or “Limited Liability Company”, behind the name.
amerpundit on July 6, 2007 at 1:46 PM
I agree. Ron Paul makes me think about supporting other candidates.
amerpundit on July 6, 2007 at 1:47 PM
If Paul ever got the nom, I’d be more than willing to switch affiliations.
amerpundit on July 6, 2007 at 1:49 PM
Nothing wrong with SOS or grits for that matter. I prefer them to crepe’-de-la-gucci.
Limerick on July 6, 2007 at 1:49 PM
thanks, if this is a fake site Thompson’s people need to get on it asap.
the other day I googled: “Ron Paul is an Idiot”, and found a site called “ihateronpaul.com” if I remember correctly, somthing like that. anyway, its a pro-paul site playing games. These fools rule the internet and are in an all out dis-information campaign.
jp on July 6, 2007 at 1:50 PM
yep, here it is: http://ihateronpaul.com/
jp on July 6, 2007 at 1:50 PM
If Ron Paul can accomplish one thing by running, I hope it would be to focus as much attention as possible on the welfare state. I think it is the root of many of our problems and it should be re-visited. This current health care discussion could make the problem worse.
saiga on July 6, 2007 at 1:52 PM
Ron Paul is living breathing proof that left wing liberal wackjobs do not hold proprietary rights when it comes to being a looney!
pilamaye on July 6, 2007 at 1:52 PM
He may be a looney, but he can sure get the pie holes flapping.
saiga on July 6, 2007 at 1:56 PM
Also, it looks to me like McCain is the looney one. How else could he explain his position on immigration?
saiga on July 6, 2007 at 1:59 PM
CLASSIC!
msipes on July 6, 2007 at 2:01 PM
Yes; against him. He certainly motivates all of us to donate more to Fred, Rudy, Mitt, etc.
I’m not surprised. I posted a poll on my site, and within 20 minutes, there were over 20 votes for Paul. Surprisingly, it seemed that everyone who visited, voted. Everyone who voted voted for Ron Paul. I checked my incoming traffic, and noticed it came from Technorati searched for “Ron Paul”. If you check Technorati’s front page, he’s the top search.
His supporters use the engine to find Paul related posts, and vote in all of the polls, or defend Paul from criticism. In this way, they can inflate support for Paul, without actually having election votes behind them.
amerpundit on July 6, 2007 at 2:04 PM
You’re a Paul supporter, aren’t you?
amerpundit on July 6, 2007 at 2:05 PM
Ron Paul is the embodiment of Blair’s Law.
That site is pretty ridiculous. Just like Ron Paul and his supporters.
Veeshir on July 6, 2007 at 2:05 PM
Why should he? He’s now tied in a head-to-head match up with Hillary 45%-45% and he hasn’t spent a dime!
My guess is he doesn’t announce until his pole numbers decline. Then he’s going to be forced to juice things up a bit! But until then he can enjoy the free ride!
FredThompson-Redefining campaigning in America!
Dread Pirate Roberts VI on July 6, 2007 at 2:09 PM
No. I like Mitt. I just worry that Americans find the Mormon faith a little too creepy. Also, I hate any form of gun control. I’m worried sick that hillary may get in because of any strong competition. I tend to think Rudy is a one trick pony, and McCain is out. The rest seem rather lightweight to me. Also, newt has too much baggage. Fred sound good, but I just hope he can hang when the sharp knives come out.
saiga on July 6, 2007 at 2:10 PM
My fear is he’s the next iPhone. Lots and lots of hype. Everybody loved the iPhone. Awesome gadget. It finally hit the market, and we’re finding issues with it, which it wasn’t supposed to have.
amerpundit on July 6, 2007 at 2:11 PM
Whatever it is they only have 55 members.
Capitalist Infidel on July 6, 2007 at 2:13 PM
I certainly hope Fred does well, honestly. I’m between him and Rudy. I just worry about how Fred will start doing when he gets live hardballs thrown at him. Rudy let the race, because of what he said in the past, before debates. Now he’s behind Fred, after having been in a few debates. Nothing’s to say that the same can’t happen to Fred.
I’m sure moderators like Matthews will ask about his 1994 survey on abortion, etc.
amerpundit on July 6, 2007 at 2:13 PM
I brought this up yesterday, but since we are talking about Ron Paul fundraising, the spray painted bed sheet supporting Ron Paul is still haning from the pedestrian overpass. I understand grass roots and all, but seriously, a bedsheet? What’s next, a Ron Paul TP party?
BohicaTwentyTwo on July 6, 2007 at 2:13 PM
54 real ones. I registered to see what it was all about.
amerpundit on July 6, 2007 at 2:14 PM
let=led
amerpundit on July 6, 2007 at 2:15 PM
Choice between Mormon Mitt and Been-to-church-for-cash Billary, the base will choose Mitt. Mitt, Rudy, Fred! that is the race. All others looking for cabinet positions.
Limerick on July 6, 2007 at 2:15 PM
Fred has a lot of experience. I just can tell what drives him and if he really has adequate fire in the belly. He is an accomplished politician and actor, but he seems a little wooden in interviews. If he hires the right people, they may craft and focus a unique message. You have to be different to be better, and Fred seems pretty main line conservative with nothing really new. He will need a little more easyness to make inroads across the aisle to get elected.
saiga on July 6, 2007 at 2:16 PM
I know, but he’s been doing a pretty good job of vetting himself and getting all the negatives out early. If he can hold on a bit longer and the rest of the pack start running out of money and a few drop out (JM-TT) and if things don’t look good for Newt (which they don’t) he picks up enough hardcore conservative votes to win the nomination in a cake walk. After that…we’ll see. Besides Hillary can’t get about 45%, she can’t win the South, and she and Bloomberg split NJ/NY/CT it’s over!
Then again, I was sucked in by Perot!!! So disregard everything I ever say!
Dread Pirate Roberts VI on July 6, 2007 at 2:18 PM
about=above
Dread Pirate Roberts VI on July 6, 2007 at 2:22 PM
amerpundit on July 6, 2007 at 2:13 PM
Rudy’s behind Fred? Um, check your math…
Big S on July 6, 2007 at 2:23 PM
It really is hard for me to believe that Hillary is the front runner for President of the United States. That seems like a sad testiment to our population. It is a sad day indeed.
saiga on July 6, 2007 at 2:24 PM
Watching the news these days makes my skin crawl. Imagine having to watch President Hillary every day. That would be proof we are doomed.
saiga on July 6, 2007 at 2:27 PM
saiga on July 6, 2007 at 2:24 PM
She’s only the front runner with people the MSM seek out to poll!
Dread Pirate Roberts VI on July 6, 2007 at 2:27 PM
Yes, but in several key states he’s behind. SC, etc. I’m not trying to put Rudy down, I’m a supporter. I’ve donated to his campaign numerous times.
amerpundit on July 6, 2007 at 2:27 PM
Virtua Fighter is amusing but McBane shot himself with shamnesty.
Also, Go Romney! Support the man who’s actually in the race whose worst scandal is apparently a dog on top of a moving vehicle.
Fred who?
BKennedy on July 6, 2007 at 2:28 PM
amerpundit on July 6, 2007 at 2:27 PM
Remember to check your answers twice!
Big S on July 6, 2007 at 2:31 PM
oops
Big S on July 6, 2007 at 2:31 PM
saiga on July 6, 2007 at 2:24 PM
She’s only the front runner with people the MSM seek out to poll!
Dread Pirate Roberts VI on July 6, 2007 at 2:27 PM
I hope you are right. It scares the s#*t out of me.
saiga on July 6, 2007 at 2:31 PM
When I see her face I see treachery. All her stuff seems so contrived. Se could really kick our butts with taxes. I have older parents, and I worry about going back to a crazy death tax that could thump me and my kids.
saiga on July 6, 2007 at 2:35 PM
I’m trying to hold back any opinion I have for Fred until I see a lot more from him. I’m looking forward to his first debate alongside Mitt and Rudy. I need to see how he is without a script. I’m sure all of us civics geeks will be on the edge of our seats for that one. I’m also looking forward to seeing how he actually handles real attacks from the left once he has officially declared and they really start to come after him. I’m looking forward to seeing how his poll numbers react once the mystery about his candidacy is removed. I am still concerned that he could win the Republican nomination and then prove himself to be a dissapointing candidate in the general election. I’ve been underwhelmed by some of his speeches so far and am still waiting for something out of him that convinces me that he deserves frontrunner status over Mitt and Rudy. His performance on that late night talk show was terrible in my opinion. Until he proves his merit to me I’m going to have to stick with Mitt. After GW Bush I’m pulling for smarts and there are few quicker and more agile on their feet then Mitt.
Zetterson on July 6, 2007 at 2:41 PM
I liked your summary; well said. I, too, find myself uncomfortably in the anyone-but-a-DemoRat camp, and favoring either Mitt or Fred!. I sense that too many voters will find Mitt to be disingenuous and too staged. He is slick, and I agree with virtually all of his important positions. But his flip-floppery might come off as opportunistic.
As for Fred!, it would be helpful to hear a clear statement on the war in Iraq, and the larger *war on terror*, although it has been amazing to watch his success as the stealth candidate. At this rate, if he remains unannounced in January, he should have the nomination locked and a 20 point lead on Hillarama…
Jaibones on July 6, 2007 at 2:41 PM
45/45 and the Fred! hasn’t even
announcedrespected csdeven yet?The Clinton machine must be in overdrive – what’s there to dig deeper than the Clinton times? I know – filth in the White House. Wait, Fred didn’t leave any there…he’s from the South…wait…he likes women…wait…his wife is younger and pretty…maybe…the media can’t help but like him…problem…the people like him…yikes…”Bill, live up to your political fame if you want to continue your accustomed lifestyle”.
…and his legs are bigger.
Entelechy on July 6, 2007 at 2:42 PM
Correction – should have been “deeper than the Nixon times”
Entelechy on July 6, 2007 at 2:44 PM
I was a firm supporter on the Iraq action, and I understand the danger of global jihad, but Iraq is an ugly ugly ugly situation. My parents were in Saudi Arabia for many years, and when this war broke out,my mom told me “wait and see. Those people there don’t have what it takes to run their own show. Their deal is all about conflict and religious dogma. Ruling themselves democratically is something they just won’t take responsibility for.”
I hate to say it, but I see signes of that over there and have trouble mustering enough faith in them to want to hang there indefinately. It’s kind of a poop or get off the pot kind of thing, and they aint pooping.
saiga on July 6, 2007 at 2:57 PM
I would vote for Ron Paul before John McCain anyday!!!
DCJeff on July 6, 2007 at 3:01 PM
…and the pants have three legs.
RushBaby on July 6, 2007 at 3:13 PM
Oh, that third one’s not a leg. Heh, heh….
CT on July 6, 2007 at 3:15 PM
I’d almost welcome that. While I’ve been leaning toward the Fredmeister, I number of my like-minded friends are Paul supporters. The big difference between the two on the issues seems to be the war. Other than that…
Somebody help me out here.
manwithblackhat on July 6, 2007 at 3:18 PM
I have a similar nightmare scenario: Fred does a “Dole in ‘92″ performance, and, once again, we’re stuck with Shrillary and captain Clenis at the helm.
Mayday! Mayday! Mayday!
common sensineer on July 6, 2007 at 3:21 PM
Well oops on you.
Hollowpoint on July 6, 2007 at 3:26 PM
Bet each of them a case of beer that Paul won’t poll in the top 3 by the end of the year, or that he won’t win a single state by Feb 6th.
Wait.
Enjoy free beer.
Hollowpoint on July 6, 2007 at 3:34 PM
Technically, it’s not called “parody” when you falsely post something in public with a specific agenda and no discernable sense of humor.
That’s called “fraud.”
If somebody happens to like Huckabee, more power to him. But I’m sick and tired of hearing people defend the rabid anti-Frederalists.
Newsflash: those guys don’t just have a different preference. They are totally batshit CRAZY!
logis on July 6, 2007 at 3:40 PM
Hollowpoint on July 6, 2007 at 3:26 PM
Dude, that’s one poll, within the M.O.E. Don’t get too excited. I had seen that (It’s included in the RCP average), and I respect Rasmussen, but really, it’s one freaking poll! You Fredheads aren’t too good with the quantitative analysis.
Big S on July 6, 2007 at 3:40 PM
Yep. And that’s where Guiliani and Romney are headed this weekend. Wonder if Big John will even show up?
BacaDog on July 6, 2007 at 3:42 PM
Anybody as out of touch with his base to the extent Big John was needs to be thumped out. What was he thinking? Oh well, be gone.
saiga on July 6, 2007 at 3:50 PM
Big S on July 6, 2007 at 3:40 PM
No, it’s four polls in a row by Rasmussen- who’s traditionally had the most accurate results- that show Fred tied or ahead of RINO Rudy, although by a small margin.
The reason for the discrepancy is that others in the RCP stats you linked (like Fox) simply poll registered voters while Rasmussen polled likely primary voters who tend to be amongst the more conservative party base… and are the ones who actually count with regards to the primaries.
How’s that for the quantitative analysis, RINO-lover? Or how about this quantitative analysis- if RINO Rudy wins the nomination, I’ll stay home or vote 3rd party, and I won’t be the only one.
Hollowpoint on July 6, 2007 at 4:04 PM
saiga on July 6, 2007 at 4:06 PM
Call me crazy but if RINO Rudy wins the nomination I think it will be in our country’s best interest to push him between Hillary and the White House. If you are starving to death and forced to choose between an elephant poop sandwich and a donkey poop sandwich your best option is to choose the one that will fill you up the most.
Zetterson on July 6, 2007 at 4:15 PM
Short term? Probably.
Long term? Maybe not. The Republican party is falling apart, and nominating RINO Rudy may just lead to an irreparable breakdown of what the party is supposed to stand for.
Hollowpoint on July 6, 2007 at 4:30 PM
Some of them have, problematically, forgotten to adopt pro-Fred names. There are still a few RONPAULOMG2008!!1!! screen names, which give away the whole thing.
E. M. on July 6, 2007 at 4:36 PM
Darn those Ron Paul supporters, spamming his donation box like they do Internet polls.
rho on July 6, 2007 at 4:39 PM
Hmm, a Fred thread and csdeven hasn’t showed up yet to derail it thus ensuring that no genuine dialog regarding Fred takes place, somebody better call the emergency medical technicians and have them run over to csdeven house or work or whatever and make sure he’s ok, I would really hate to find out something unfortunate had happened to him, like his head exploding from all the unexpressed rage he has for Fred…
doriangrey on July 6, 2007 at 4:44 PM
Hollowpoint
Do you really trust Rasmussen’s “secret formula” that much? Each polling firm has their own methods and weights likelihoods depending on their various registration numbers and past voting patterns. Sure, it’s a few weeks in a row, but it’s only one polling firm, and still within the MOE. Determining “likely voters” is a crapshoot anyways, and changing political landscapes change likelihoods. As you yourself have said, the likelihood that you will vote changes depending on who the nominee(s) is/are. I can only hope that you and those like you continue to marginalize yourselves by trying to exclude those you call “RINOs.”
Big S on July 6, 2007 at 4:44 PM
It depends upon which issues he breaks from the base. If he pulls a Bush on illegal immigration, yes that will be very bad for our party both long term and short term. But if he only breaks from the base via a few social issues (homo marriage, abortion, stem cells, etc) the damage will be more minimal. If he proves to be a good leader on the WOT as is the image he is trying to portray then all will be forgiven and he will be a net benefit. We have to realize that we will rarely get everything we want. When it does come around we need to be prepared to grab it. When its not there we should almost always take the next best option unless you want to be prepared to rarely win elections.
Zetterson on July 6, 2007 at 4:44 PM
In related news, marijuana prices dropped significantly; reduced demand cited. Ron Paul supporters no longer able to afford weed after throwing away their pizza delivery money in support of the dead horse known as Ron Paul.
Hollowpoint on July 6, 2007 at 4:44 PM
I think McCain is the dead horse. Paul will be re-elected to congress. Besides, lighten up. Paul is fun to watch and confounds many dems. You sound bitter like an MS13 gang member.
saiga on July 6, 2007 at 4:48 PM
Hahaha not bad.
Zetterson on July 6, 2007 at 4:49 PM
rho on July 6, 2007 at 4:39 PM
Yep, he raised a staggering 2.4 million, the same thing he raised last quarter…meaning that his base is stagnant i.e. not growing and most likely tapped out for the time being… In other words it’s exactly what we all knew, he has a small and limited support base, which grossly over inflates it size on the internet.
Compare his 2.4 million total fund raising to Obama’s 10.4 million raised solely on the internet, thats not counting the 14.5 million Obama’s raised in the old fashioned traditional glad handed way…
Hell the amount RP has raised so far would even allow him to run a successful campaign for senator here in California.
doriangrey on July 6, 2007 at 4:52 PM
I guess with a name like hollowpoint, you don’t much care for gun control. I like Ted nugents definition of gun control myself. Look up Kalashnikov saiga.
saiga on July 6, 2007 at 4:53 PM
saiga on July 6, 2007 at 4:53 PM
Heh heh…Gun Control=Hitting what you aim at…
doriangrey on July 6, 2007 at 4:55 PM
This is just a reflection of how out of touch these Ron Paul supporters are. Instead of attacking fred? on all his obvious weaknesses they go for the groupies. Well, we all know the groupies are really voting for some character freddie boy played on some TV show he was on, so their cluelessness is obvious.
fred? will have to deal with his failure to understand the Cuban immigration policy, his abdication of Iraq war policy to soldiers attitudes about the war. Also, his absolute dismally pathetic performances in his three softball interviews. His weak senate record, his total lack of executive experience, his questionable work as a lobbyist that worked to cheat American citizens out of the settlements they were due from unscrupulous companies that used asbestos when they knew it was dangerous, will be other issues he will eventually have to answer for. Add to that his pro-choice flip-flop, and his insulting behavior by teasing his announcement date and then changing it AGAIN at the last minute.
Then we have his character issues…..he promoted himself as a DC playboy to the point that congress deemed it necessary to question him on it. He lies about his insider status. He fakes out his supporters by with his BS red pickup truck schtick. Lately he lied to a pro-family group by claiming he has been with them the whole time, while hiding behind his kids in a video. It’s starting to look like freddie boy collected a wife and kids in order to build an image as a family guy and it that video it was clear he was contriving that image.
So yeah, it’s clear that the RP supporters that are trying to make fred? supporters sound stupid, just expose themselves as less than competent in political banter.
csdeven on July 6, 2007 at 4:56 PM
“Secret formula”? Go to their website and see for yourself- Rasmussen polled likely primary voters while Fox et al simply polled registered voters. Given the past accuracy of their results, they’re probably the most trusted political polling organization in the country.
Funny though how after you brought up the RCP link in the first place you suddenly don’t trust polls. Advantage: Hollowpoint.
And no, I wouldn’t try to marginalize everyone who disagrees with me as a RINO, only those who support a RINO over a conservative. Especially a gun-grabbing, sanctuary city loving, authoritarian one-trick-pony like Rudy.
Well, they and the Ron Paul kiddie patrol of course.
Hollowpoint on July 6, 2007 at 4:56 PM
Here’s some quantitative analysis:
RT/Cook poll stats show 36 leaning right, 44 leaning left, and the balance saying they don’t lean either way or refusing to state.
CNN has Rudy at 30% Fred at 19% McCain at 19% Romney at 9% and Newt at 8%… need I say more?
Newsweek? USA today? then.. Fox News & Rasmussen… ???
Considering the fact that I would fairly say the people polled are majority moderate to left leaning, they won’t be voting in the GOP Primary anyway. I think that the fact that the average of all these polls shows Fred! (unannouced) as within 4% speaks volumes about his potential.
Sultry Beauty on July 6, 2007 at 5:03 PM
No need, I know exactly what you’re talking about. Especially considering there’s a Romanian SAR-1 (with double stack magazines of course), SKS, Mosin Nagant M44, M43 and CZ-52 hidden in my closet right now.
Not that they’d be there if RINO Rudy or FlipFlop Mitt had their way…
Hollowpoint on July 6, 2007 at 5:03 PM
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