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	<title>Comments on: Guess what: You can&#8217;t be a Muslim and a Christian and a priest at the same time after all</title>
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		<title>By: crushliberalism</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/06/guess-what-you-cant-be-a-muslim-and-a-christian-and-a-priest-at-the-same-time-after-all/comment-page-1/#comment-538135</link>
		<dc:creator>crushliberalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 19:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Christian, isn&#039;t she an infidel? 

As a Muslim, isn&#039;t her duty to kill infidels?

Therefore, by logical extension, shouldn&#039;t she kill herself?

Ugh...I need an aspirin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Christian, isn&#8217;t she an infidel? </p>
<p>As a Muslim, isn&#8217;t her duty to kill infidels?</p>
<p>Therefore, by logical extension, shouldn&#8217;t she kill herself?</p>
<p>Ugh&#8230;I need an aspirin.</p>
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		<title>By: Threads from Henry&#8217;s Web &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Update on Muslim-Christian Episcopal Priest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Threads from Henry&#8217;s Web &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Update on Muslim-Christian Episcopal Priest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 15:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Thanks to Hot Air with hat tip to Pursuing Holiness, I found an update on the episcopal priest who wants to be a practicing Muslim at the same time she is an Episcopal priest. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Thanks to Hot Air with hat tip to Pursuing Holiness, I found an update on the episcopal priest who wants to be a practicing Muslim at the same time she is an Episcopal priest. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: shyspeak.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>shyspeak.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 14:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Episcopal-Muslim Priest...&lt;/strong&gt;

(h/t: Hot Air)  Seattle Episcopal priest, Rev. Ann Holmes Redding, recently announced that after 23 years in the priesthood, she is now both Muslim and Christian.  (Strange bedfellows indeed!)  The Bishop of the Diocese of Rhode Island, Rev. Geralyn Wo...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Episcopal-Muslim Priest&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>(h/t: Hot Air)  Seattle Episcopal priest, Rev. Ann Holmes Redding, recently announced that after 23 years in the priesthood, she is now both Muslim and Christian.  (Strange bedfellows indeed!)  The Bishop of the Diocese of Rhode Island, Rev. Geralyn Wo&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TBinSTL</title>
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		<dc:creator>TBinSTL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 06:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is amazing is that, coming &#039;Pisky Bish this actually looks like spine by comparison to the usual state of affairs when in fact it only rises to the level of cartilage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is amazing is that, coming &#8216;Pisky Bish this actually looks like spine by comparison to the usual state of affairs when in fact it only rises to the level of cartilage.</p>
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		<title>By: cmay</title>
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		<dc:creator>cmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 01:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;He objected on principle to Rome’s way of salvation (sola fide, sola gratia, solus christus), which isn’t supported Biblically, and on Papal authority(sola scriptura).

PRCalDude on July 6, 2007 at 8:01 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m not sure if you&#039;re saying that the Catholic Church believed in sola fide, etc. or that Luther did.  I assume that you&#039;re attributing the 5 solas to Protestant theology, which is the correct way to look at it.  I just found it awkwardly worded and wanted to be clear what we were talking about.

Having clarified that, the 5 solas are essentially what distinguished Protestantism from Catholicism.  These arose out of necessity rather than biblically or theologically.  Luther famously added the word &quot;alone&quot; to Romans 3:28 to invent &lt;em&gt;sola fide&lt;/em&gt;.  This was to debunk specific Catholic teachings on the efficacy of works and indulgences.  &lt;em&gt;Sola gratia&lt;/em&gt; was a reaction to the abuse of selling indulgences.  &lt;em&gt;Solus Christus&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;soli Deo gloria&lt;/em&gt; removed the Church as an intercessor, again to protest the selling of indulgences.  Sola scriptura was invented to eliminate magisterial and papal authority.

In all 5 cases, the solas were designed to minimize the corruption that existed in the Church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>He objected on principle to Rome’s way of salvation (sola fide, sola gratia, solus christus), which isn’t supported Biblically, and on Papal authority(sola scriptura).</p>
<p>PRCalDude on July 6, 2007 at 8:01 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if you&#8217;re saying that the Catholic Church believed in sola fide, etc. or that Luther did.  I assume that you&#8217;re attributing the 5 solas to Protestant theology, which is the correct way to look at it.  I just found it awkwardly worded and wanted to be clear what we were talking about.</p>
<p>Having clarified that, the 5 solas are essentially what distinguished Protestantism from Catholicism.  These arose out of necessity rather than biblically or theologically.  Luther famously added the word &#8220;alone&#8221; to Romans 3:28 to invent <em>sola fide</em>.  This was to debunk specific Catholic teachings on the efficacy of works and indulgences.  <em>Sola gratia</em> was a reaction to the abuse of selling indulgences.  <em>Solus Christus</em> and <em>soli Deo gloria</em> removed the Church as an intercessor, again to protest the selling of indulgences.  Sola scriptura was invented to eliminate magisterial and papal authority.</p>
<p>In all 5 cases, the solas were designed to minimize the corruption that existed in the Church.</p>
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		<title>By: William2006</title>
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		<dc:creator>William2006</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 01:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And yet Evangelical Christians have no problem with those who announce that they are both Jewish and Christian, even though those two religions are also theologically incompatible. 

&lt;em&gt;aunursa on July 6, 2007 at 1:50 PM&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Who makes such a claim?

William</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And yet Evangelical Christians have no problem with those who announce that they are both Jewish and Christian, even though those two religions are also theologically incompatible. </p>
<p><em>aunursa on July 6, 2007 at 1:50 PM</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Who makes such a claim?</p>
<p>William</p>
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		<title>By: angryoldfatman</title>
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		<dc:creator>angryoldfatman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 01:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Good point.

However, the Imam Mahdi is not a deified Christ equivalent.

Lawrence on July 6, 2007 at 7:55 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Good point, and I agree.

Still, as far as I can tell, the distinction is nonexistant in practice. The Muslims revere Mohammed as if he were a deity; one only needs to draw a cartoon of him to find that out. Also, from Ahmadinejad&#039;s tone, I can&#039;t see it being any different for the Mahdi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Good point.</p>
<p>However, the Imam Mahdi is not a deified Christ equivalent.</p>
<p>Lawrence on July 6, 2007 at 7:55 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Good point, and I agree.</p>
<p>Still, as far as I can tell, the distinction is nonexistant in practice. The Muslims revere Mohammed as if he were a deity; one only needs to draw a cartoon of him to find that out. Also, from Ahmadinejad&#8217;s tone, I can&#8217;t see it being any different for the Mahdi.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua P. Allem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua P. Allem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 00:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have so much religious freedom here in America that people can join up with any religion they want and keep the parts they like and throw away the parts they don&#039;t like.  We can even mix and match if we want!  We have so much religious freedom in this country that joining a church is easier than getting a Blockbuster membership card.  I&#039;ve known Christians who regularly visit their town psychic and claim, &quot;I trust my psychic because she&#039;s a Christian&quot;.

My point?

Only in America where we have such freedom can someone join a religion and have almost nothing to do with it at the same time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have so much religious freedom here in America that people can join up with any religion they want and keep the parts they like and throw away the parts they don&#8217;t like.  We can even mix and match if we want!  We have so much religious freedom in this country that joining a church is easier than getting a Blockbuster membership card.  I&#8217;ve known Christians who regularly visit their town psychic and claim, &#8220;I trust my psychic because she&#8217;s a Christian&#8221;.</p>
<p>My point?</p>
<p>Only in America where we have such freedom can someone join a religion and have almost nothing to do with it at the same time.</p>
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		<title>By: PRCalDude</title>
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		<dc:creator>PRCalDude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 00:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Luther neither didn’t want to follow the rules nor establish direct interlocution. He was rightly fed up with corruption in the Church. People can argue whether he was right to do what he did to remedy this problem, but it was corruption, not theology, that led him to found a new religion.

cmay on July 6, 2007 at 5:59 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
What about the five solas?  

He objected on principle to Rome&#039;s way of salvation (sola fide, sola gratia, solus christus), which isn&#039;t supported Biblically, and on Papal authority(sola scriptura).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Luther neither didn’t want to follow the rules nor establish direct interlocution. He was rightly fed up with corruption in the Church. People can argue whether he was right to do what he did to remedy this problem, but it was corruption, not theology, that led him to found a new religion.</p>
<p>cmay on July 6, 2007 at 5:59 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>What about the five solas?  </p>
<p>He objected on principle to Rome&#8217;s way of salvation (sola fide, sola gratia, solus christus), which isn&#8217;t supported Biblically, and on Papal authority(sola scriptura).</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 23:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The Shia have fixed that.

angryoldfatman on July 6, 2007 at 7:07 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Good point.

However, the Imam Mahdi is not a deified Christ equivalent.

Messianic Christ is God incarnate, while Imam Mahdi is merely another human prophet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The Shia have fixed that.</p>
<p>angryoldfatman on July 6, 2007 at 7:07 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Good point.</p>
<p>However, the Imam Mahdi is not a deified Christ equivalent.</p>
<p>Messianic Christ is God incarnate, while Imam Mahdi is merely another human prophet.</p>
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		<title>By: PowWow</title>
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		<dc:creator>PowWow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 23:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;“I’m not going to go willingly.”

That could be taken a couple of ways. Could make for an interesting follow up&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“I’m not going to go willingly.”</p>
<p>That could be taken a couple of ways. Could make for an interesting follow up</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: jeanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 23:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an Episcopalian and a used to be Rhode Islander for many years-----I applaud Bishop Wolf for having much more common sense than the Bishop of the Olympia Diocese in Washington, who said something to the effect that it had interesting possibilities. Yikes!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an Episcopalian and a used to be Rhode Islander for many years&#8212;&#8211;I applaud Bishop Wolf for having much more common sense than the Bishop of the Olympia Diocese in Washington, who said something to the effect that it had interesting possibilities. Yikes!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Religious_Zealot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Religious_Zealot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 23:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;They did appoint a practicing homosexual as their Bishop, and then a woman.

If anyone is still in that denomination, get out.

PRCalDude on July 6, 2007 at 12:30 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Not only was he a practicing homosexual, he was also an adulterer and an alcoholic!

When he was made Bishop was the exact time that their church became apostate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>They did appoint a practicing homosexual as their Bishop, and then a woman.</p>
<p>If anyone is still in that denomination, get out.</p>
<p>PRCalDude on July 6, 2007 at 12:30 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Not only was he a practicing homosexual, he was also an adulterer and an alcoholic!</p>
<p>When he was made Bishop was the exact time that their church became apostate.</p>
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		<title>By: &#160; Some Sanity In The Episcopal Church&#160;-&#160;Pursuing Holiness</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#160; Some Sanity In The Episcopal Church&#160;-&#160;Pursuing Holiness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 23:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bryan at Hot Air has the latest.  The Rev. Ann Holmes Redding, a local Episcopal priest who announced she is both Muslim and Christian, will not be able to serve as a priest for a year, according to her bishop. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Bryan at Hot Air has the latest.  The Rev. Ann Holmes Redding, a local Episcopal priest who announced she is both Muslim and Christian, will not be able to serve as a priest for a year, according to her bishop. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: angryoldfatman</title>
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		<dc:creator>angryoldfatman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 23:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Muslims on the other hand seek to Allah. They have no Messianic message and have no Christ figure.

Lawrence on July 6, 2007 at 2:17 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The Shia have &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.muhammadanreality.com/ImamMahdiSignsfortheSavoir.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fixed that&lt;/a&gt;.

You may have heard &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53577&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;somebody in fairly high position of power&lt;/a&gt; talk about this very thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Muslims on the other hand seek to Allah. They have no Messianic message and have no Christ figure.</p>
<p>Lawrence on July 6, 2007 at 2:17 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>The Shia have <a href="http://www.muhammadanreality.com/ImamMahdiSignsfortheSavoir.htm" rel="nofollow">fixed that</a>.</p>
<p>You may have heard <a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53577" rel="nofollow">somebody in fairly high position of power</a> talk about this very thing.</p>
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		<title>By: greggriffith</title>
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		<dc:creator>greggriffith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 22:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the broken link. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/3831/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Second try&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the broken link. <a href="http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/3831/" rel="nofollow">Second try</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Stand Firm</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/06/guess-what-you-cant-be-a-muslim-and-a-christian-and-a-priest-at-the-same-time-after-all/comment-page-1/#comment-536299</link>
		<dc:creator>Stand Firm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 22:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Under the Radar...and Over the Cliff...&lt;/strong&gt;

By now, most readers in the Anglican blogosphere are familiar with the story of The Rev. Ann Holmes Redding. She is an Episcopal priest in Washington State who also claims to be a practicing Muslim. Her story first appeared in the Diocese of Olympia&amp;ap...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Under the Radar&#8230;and Over the Cliff&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>By now, most readers in the Anglican blogosphere are familiar with the story of The Rev. Ann Holmes Redding. She is an Episcopal priest in Washington State who also claims to be a practicing Muslim. Her story first appeared in the Diocese of Olympia&amp;ap&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: greggriffith</title>
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		<dc:creator>greggriffith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 22:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out how liberal Piskies tried to kill this story, and what a scrappy group of conservative Piskies did to &lt;a&gt;keep it alive&lt;/a&gt;.&quot;&gt;keep it alive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out how liberal Piskies tried to kill this story, and what a scrappy group of conservative Piskies did to <a>keep it alive</a>.&#8221;&gt;keep it alive.</p>
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		<title>By: cmay</title>
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		<dc:creator>cmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 21:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;That is what the reformation was about, allowing God’s words to flow directly into the hearts of man.

right2bright on July 6, 2007 at 5:31 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If that&#039;s true, it&#039;s difficult to figure out why it took nearly 4 centuries for a Bible to be codified (and when it was it was on the authority of the Church).  It&#039;s also, difficult to argue that the way Hillary Clinton and Barak Obama translate the Bible is incorrect even though it is incompatible with traditional understanding.

God did write the law directly on our hearts, but He also gave us teachers in the disciples to instruct us.  In Acts 8, the Ethiopian eunuch indicates that he could not know the scriptures because he&#039;s had nobody to teach him.

Luther neither didn&#039;t want to follow the rules nor establish direct interlocution.  He was rightly fed up with corruption in the Church.  People can argue whether he was right to do what he did to remedy this problem, but it was corruption, not theology, that led him to found a new religion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That is what the reformation was about, allowing God’s words to flow directly into the hearts of man.</p>
<p>right2bright on July 6, 2007 at 5:31 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>If that&#8217;s true, it&#8217;s difficult to figure out why it took nearly 4 centuries for a Bible to be codified (and when it was it was on the authority of the Church).  It&#8217;s also, difficult to argue that the way Hillary Clinton and Barak Obama translate the Bible is incorrect even though it is incompatible with traditional understanding.</p>
<p>God did write the law directly on our hearts, but He also gave us teachers in the disciples to instruct us.  In Acts 8, the Ethiopian eunuch indicates that he could not know the scriptures because he&#8217;s had nobody to teach him.</p>
<p>Luther neither didn&#8217;t want to follow the rules nor establish direct interlocution.  He was rightly fed up with corruption in the Church.  People can argue whether he was right to do what he did to remedy this problem, but it was corruption, not theology, that led him to found a new religion.</p>
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		<title>By: cmay</title>
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		<dc:creator>cmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 21:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And yet Evangelical Christians have no problem with those who announce that they are both Jewish and Christian, even though those two religions are also theologically incompatible.

aunursa on July 6, 2007 at 1:50 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

A really good book on this subject is &lt;em&gt;Salvation is from the Jews&lt;/em&gt;.  In the end, Jews who convert to Christianity believe that it is more of a fulfillment of the Jewish covenant than a conversion to a new religion.  They themselves do not even consider it a &quot;conversion.&quot;

As for the original story, this &quot;priest&quot; is no worse than retired &quot;Bishop&quot; John Spong.  He was the Episcopal bishop of Newark, NJ for 20+ years.  He was also a committed atheist.

Some will quibble that he never came out and claimed he was an atheist.  This may be true, but he spent his whole life teaching how God was not a theistic being and that Jesus was our model (not Savior) because he was so kind and good.

Hopefully this is a sign that the shenanigans in the Episcopal church are being addressed.  Now they still have to deal with their ongoing schism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And yet Evangelical Christians have no problem with those who announce that they are both Jewish and Christian, even though those two religions are also theologically incompatible.</p>
<p>aunursa on July 6, 2007 at 1:50 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>A really good book on this subject is <em>Salvation is from the Jews</em>.  In the end, Jews who convert to Christianity believe that it is more of a fulfillment of the Jewish covenant than a conversion to a new religion.  They themselves do not even consider it a &#8220;conversion.&#8221;</p>
<p>As for the original story, this &#8220;priest&#8221; is no worse than retired &#8220;Bishop&#8221; John Spong.  He was the Episcopal bishop of Newark, NJ for 20+ years.  He was also a committed atheist.</p>
<p>Some will quibble that he never came out and claimed he was an atheist.  This may be true, but he spent his whole life teaching how God was not a theistic being and that Jesus was our model (not Savior) because he was so kind and good.</p>
<p>Hopefully this is a sign that the shenanigans in the Episcopal church are being addressed.  Now they still have to deal with their ongoing schism.</p>
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		<title>By: right2bright</title>
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		<dc:creator>right2bright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 21:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Was’nt the Episcopalian(and Lutheran)Church started by Catholics who did’nt want to follow the rules? 

DCJeff on July 6, 2007 at 11:55 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
No, DC, the Lutheran Church was started by a man who wanted to follow the rules, Gods rules.  That is what the reformation was about, allowing God&#039;s words to flow directly into the hearts of man.  In religion, the rules are made by God, followed by man, not the other way around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Was’nt the Episcopalian(and Lutheran)Church started by Catholics who did’nt want to follow the rules? </p>
<p>DCJeff on July 6, 2007 at 11:55 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>No, DC, the Lutheran Church was started by a man who wanted to follow the rules, Gods rules.  That is what the reformation was about, allowing God&#8217;s words to flow directly into the hearts of man.  In religion, the rules are made by God, followed by man, not the other way around.</p>
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		<title>By: Kini</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 21:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t wait to see the Rev. Ann Holmes Redding ask for forgiveness for blowing herself up.</description>
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		<title>By: Ignorant Mensan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ignorant Mensan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 18:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Due to medical conditions, it is not possible for me always to attend church.  About two+ years I discovered the Coral Ridge Presbyterian ministry headed by Dr. James Kennedy and truly, truly enjoy worshiping with this ministry.  

No political correctness, just the Word of God.  

And he fights hard against the ACLU and others who want to destroy America.  I have felt truly blessed by his sermons and prayers.

One of the few well known ministers who have not bowed to the god of PC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Due to medical conditions, it is not possible for me always to attend church.  About two+ years I discovered the Coral Ridge Presbyterian ministry headed by Dr. James Kennedy and truly, truly enjoy worshiping with this ministry.  </p>
<p>No political correctness, just the Word of God.  </p>
<p>And he fights hard against the ACLU and others who want to destroy America.  I have felt truly blessed by his sermons and prayers.</p>
<p>One of the few well known ministers who have not bowed to the god of PC.</p>
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		<title>By: ahem</title>
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		<dc:creator>ahem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 18:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Just trying to find a traditional church service these days can be challenging at times.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The Left has encroached on almost all western forms of Christianity and renedered them meaningless. If you&#039;re a seeking Christian, try the Orthodox Church--especially the Antiochians. It&#039;s like Greek Orthodoxy for Americans. Best kept secret in the United States. Listen to Ancient Faith radio to get a taste.

No social club. No insurance policy. Just pure Christianity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Just trying to find a traditional church service these days can be challenging at times.</p></blockquote>
<p>The Left has encroached on almost all western forms of Christianity and renedered them meaningless. If you&#8217;re a seeking Christian, try the Orthodox Church&#8211;especially the Antiochians. It&#8217;s like Greek Orthodoxy for Americans. Best kept secret in the United States. Listen to Ancient Faith radio to get a taste.</p>
<p>No social club. No insurance policy. Just pure Christianity.</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 18:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And yet Evangelical Christians have no problem with those who announce that they are both Jewish and Christian, even though those two religions are also theologically incompatible. 

aunursa on July 6, 2007 at 1:50 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This can be a confusing issue at times.

It is possible to be culturally Jewish and religiously Christian.  It is also possible to be Orthodox Jewish (and synoymously Christian) as long as one accepts Jesus Christ as the Jewish Messiah/Christ.

The division between Jews and Christians is primarily a disagreement over Jesus as a Prophet or Jesus as the True Messiah.  But in the end both Jews and Christians seek after the same Old Testament Yhwh and Prophetic Messiah.

Muslims on the other hand seek to Allah.  They have no Messianic message and have no Christ figure.  The problem is when one claims to be Muslim one must deny the Diety of Christ Jesus.  And if one is a Christian one denies the teachings of Islam which identifies Jesus as a mere human prophet.

Islam really is a completely different religion from Judaism and Christianity.  Trying to claim otherwise is simple ignorance and/or dangerous denial.</description>
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<p>aunursa on July 6, 2007 at 1:50 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>This can be a confusing issue at times.</p>
<p>It is possible to be culturally Jewish and religiously Christian.  It is also possible to be Orthodox Jewish (and synoymously Christian) as long as one accepts Jesus Christ as the Jewish Messiah/Christ.</p>
<p>The division between Jews and Christians is primarily a disagreement over Jesus as a Prophet or Jesus as the True Messiah.  But in the end both Jews and Christians seek after the same Old Testament Yhwh and Prophetic Messiah.</p>
<p>Muslims on the other hand seek to Allah.  They have no Messianic message and have no Christ figure.  The problem is when one claims to be Muslim one must deny the Diety of Christ Jesus.  And if one is a Christian one denies the teachings of Islam which identifies Jesus as a mere human prophet.</p>
<p>Islam really is a completely different religion from Judaism and Christianity.  Trying to claim otherwise is simple ignorance and/or dangerous denial.</p>
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