Brit communities secretary: “These terrorists” can come from any faith; Update: Brits cancel plans to share intel with Muslim leaders before raids; Update: EU told Brits not to use the word “Muslim”? Update: The Iraqi connection?
posted at 12:09 pm on July 5, 2007 by Allahpundit
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Indeed, these Muslim jihadis could be Protestant, Catholic, Jewish — you never can tell. The “broad strata” is, after all, a-gettin’ broader every day How curious that Scottish Muslims seem to think the problem comes from extremists within their own religion.
Not a lot of big news about the plot to relay today. It seems fairly clear that Bilal Abdulla, the Iraqi doctor who drove the Jeep, is the most hardcore jihadi among the suspects and the probable linchpin of the operation. The Courier Mail alleges that he was recruited by Zarqawi but I haven’t seen anything else to substantiate that. I’ve seen plenty of stuff about what a fundamentalist freak he was/is, starting with the claim in the Telegraph that he was so militant even as a “schoolboy” that his mother wouldn’t remove her headscarf in front of him. Other choice tidbits, first from the Times:
“We knew that Bilal was a religious person. He had a beard, and we used to say that he looked like a Wahhabi,” a medical school colleague of Dr. Abdulla’s brother said. At the university, Bilal Abdulla was a loner, according to a medical school colleague who graduated alongside him in 2003. “Dr. Bilal was not a normal person: he never had a girlfriend or close friendships with other students,” the fellow medical student said…
Shiraz Maher, a former member of the radical group Hizb ut-Tahrir who knew Dr. Abdulla in Cambridge … said that Dr. Abdulla at one point shared an apartment in Britain with a less devout Muslim. “This other Muslim didn’t pray five times a day and played the guitar. Bilal said, ‘Look, you’d better start praying and stop playing.’ He was adamant about it and put on this DVD of al-Zarqawi beheading a hostage,” he said, referring to the slain insurgent leader in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. “He said, ‘If you don’t change, this is what we do. We slaughter.’ ”
The Times’s headline is, “Doctor Accused in Glasgow Attack Described as Loner Angry About the Iraq War,” but despite the fact that the piece quotes Maher’s BBC interview at length, it conveniently omits something else he said in the same segment: “[T]o say it was just all about Iraq or foreign policy is mistaken. It feeds off a much wider ideological infrastructure.” As for the possibility that Abdullah was a Wahhabist who wasn’t much good with women, go figure. According to the Telegraph, his whole family are Wahhabis; the LA Times makes it sound like something more recent, though:
A doctor who works in the Baghdad hospital compound known as Medical City and knows both Abdullah and his father said that by the time Abdullah was a medical student at Baghdad University, he was known as an adherent of Wahhabism, a radical form of Islam also known as Salafism.
The same LAT piece quotes Maher as suggesting it was the Battle of Fallujah in 2004 that drove him full-on bonkers per the fanatic devotion he displayed in prayer at the mosque during the operation. That fits loosely with the timeline, which the cops have a better sense of now. The Daily Mirror says it was summer 2005 when the plan probably started to come together, since that’s when four of the plotters — Abdulla, Mohammed Asha, and the Ahmed brothers, Kafeel (or Khalid) and Sabeel — met in Cambridge. Here’s a nifty graphic from the Telegraph that tries to make sense of all the relationships. The connection to the doctor arrested in Australia comes through the Ahmed brothers, one of whom studied with the Aussie/Indian and the other one of whom worked with him.
Kafeel Ahmed is the one who was burned in the Glasgow attack and is now allegedly close to death in the hospital. He was the bombmaker for all three car bombs, says the Mirror. British news outlets claim that the cops have found the bomb factory in a house outside Glasgow at which two of the suspects stayed, but they’re not saying which suspects they were. ABC got some attention yesterday for this story about why the bombs failed, but it doesn’t give any details (purposely, I presume) beyond saying that the syringes used in the firing mechanisms failed. WaPo has a good piece picking up on the bomb angle by noting the trend within AQ away from fertilizer bombs, the ingredients of which are too hard to obtain now, and towards peroxide-based bombs, which are highly unstable but strong enough to bring down a plane even in relatively small doses. Sample quote: “Reached by telephone in Paris, where he was scheduled to give a lecture about TATP on Wednesday at an international conference, [chemistry professor Ehud] Keinan said he often carries a small sample of the volatile compound in his carry-on luggage when he flies — just to test airport security. ‘Nobody ever stops me,’ he said.”
Finally, I don’t know what to make of this much-hyped Telegraph piece about the threatening web message from “45 Muslim doctors” who are allegedly prepared for jihad. The message is three years old, not connected to the case, and not substantiated in any way as far as there actually being 45 Muslim doctors as opposed to one lone poster claiming that there are. It’s an odd coincidence, but ask Rusty Shackleford about some of the threats he sees when monitoring jihadi message boards. I’d bet this pales in comparison.
Update: An awful idea dies quietly. Gee, I wonder what could have happened to change their minds.
Police have scrapped a plan to allow Muslim community leaders to examine intelligence ahead of terror raids, it emerged today.
The proposal, which would have given a small number of community leaders advance information about planned raids, but no right of veto, was put forward after the badly botched operation in Forest Gate, east London, last summer. But the idea – raised last September by the Metropolitan Police commissioner, Sir Ian Blair – will now not be introduced, a spokesman for the force said…
[A]n ACPO spokeswoman said today it was no longer pursuing a single policy for all of England and Wales and individual forces could decide whether to consult local figures on an “ad hoc” basis.
Update: Coming soon to a Mark Steyn column near you — how socialized medicine made the car-bomb plot possible.
Update: Via Weasel Zippers, a follow-up by the Daily Express on its story earlier in the week about Gordon Brown and his ministers not using the word “Muslim” in connection with the attacks. Did the EU order them to do it?
Secret EU guidelines have been drawn up warning governments not to link Islam and terrorism…
Last night critics pointed to a classified EU document sent out to all European governments offering “non-offensive’’ phrases to use when discussing terrorism.
Banned terms were said to include “jihad’’, “Islamic’’ or “fundamentalist”.
EU officials said the “common lexicon’’ aimed to stop the distortion of the Muslim faith and alienation of its followers in Europe. European governments had previously agreed on the need to develop a “non-emotive lexicon’’ for use in discussion to avoid “exacerbating division’’.
Update: At last, a possible connection to Al Qaeda in Iraq.
Abdullah was born in Aylesbury, in southeast England, but grew up in Iraq after returning to the country with his parents when he was a young child. He moved back to Britain around 2004 to practice medicine. It is possible that a Baghdad-based extremist sheik, Ahmad al-Qubeisi, an outspoken supporter of suicide bombers, was instrumental in helping to radicalize Abdullah. According to an interview with one of Abdullah’s U.K.-based uncles, published in the Guardian newspaper today, Abdullah spoke highly of Qubeisi, even calling the sheik his “best friend” and leading his uncle to believe the sheik had “brainwashed” Abdullah. Investigators are likely examining whether Abdullah had any ties to Al Qaeda in Iraq, which was headed by the infamous Abu Mussab al-Zarqawi until he was killed in a U.S. airstrike one year ago.
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25 years ago it was the IRA but they’ve since laid down their arms. He’s right in a way but let’s look at some facts shall we? In recent years it has been the jihadists who are Muslim. Not all Muslims are terrorists but in recent memory all these guys plus the 7/7 guys and the ones they picked up last year which made us carry 3 oz of liquid in baggies on a plane have all been Muslim. A bit rambling, apologize in advance.
Catie96706 on July 5, 2007 at 12:12 PM
this goes beyond putting your head in the sand and goes to head in the concrete and then drying it after your head’s in there.
Yeah I suppose “terrorists” can come from any faith but THESE TERRORISTS are the Allah-and-Jihad-loving types
Defector01 on July 5, 2007 at 12:14 PM
and I thought the denial of the common denominator was strictly an American political correctness trait
jediwebdude on July 5, 2007 at 12:15 PM
PC will destroy Judeo-Christian influenced Western Culture.
apostle53 on July 5, 2007 at 12:16 PM
Good. We won’t have to hear his rantings at trial. I’ll never forget the description that prior to dousing himself with gasoline, he turned and smirked at the people in the terminal. Last laugh is on you, pal.
Blake on July 5, 2007 at 12:16 PM
I’ve tried a lot of problem solving techniques over the years but denying the problem is a new one to me.
I guess that’s what you do after ignoring the problem doesn’t work.
TunaTalon on July 5, 2007 at 12:17 PM
Christian Terrorists….ya that makes perfect sense.
/sarc /PC
df4jc on July 5, 2007 at 12:19 PM
So, I guess now would be a bad time to re release Jewel of the Nile in Scotland.
Speakup on July 5, 2007 at 12:23 PM
Ah yes, because everyone has long feared the coming of the Presbyterian intifada.
CP on July 5, 2007 at 12:24 PM
True. They CAN, but they DON’T. Which is THE POINT!
Lawrence on July 5, 2007 at 12:24 PM
It’s very impressive how quickly and efficiently the Brits rolled up this cell.
It’s also very impressive how much the politically correct want to bury their heads in the sand to avoid saying the truth everyone knows: Islam is the problem.
Tantor on July 5, 2007 at 12:27 PM
They CAN come from any faith? The DO come from Islam.
When will people pay attention long enough to realize that equivocating all religion is lazy and disingenuous? If a Christian blows up an unbeliever, he does so against everything that Christianity stands for – he proves his lack of understanding, and thus shows that he probably was never a true believer at all. However, when a Muslim blows up an unbeliever, he does so with the full moral authority and endorsement of his religion, and proves himself to be a true believer of Islam. Islam DOES condone general, non-specific violence against unbelievers. It’s right there in the Koran.
The immediate reaction to that statement from those who equate all religions is: “yeah, but the Bible has lots of instances in the Old Testament of God telling the Israelites to wipe out entire nations!” But that’s the point: God told THEM, at THAT SPECIFIC TIME, to wipe out THOSE SPECIFIC PEOPLE. That’s not an open-ended call to violence for all followers of God for all time. The Koran’s teachings about the handling of unbelievers are clear, they are ongoing, and they are very general in their scope.
So the notion that “these terrorists can come from any faith” is a lazy, cowardly way to avoid addressing this as an inherent problem within the teachings of Islam. I don’t have any such inhibitions about expressing my revulsion for the Islamic death cult. Until our politicians and other leaders grow enough of a spine to call a spade a spade rather than fretting over politically correct expedience, we will continute to fall prey to the violence inherent in the system. Help! Help! I’m being repressed!
Beo on July 5, 2007 at 12:32 PM
Exactly right, Lawrence
Mr. Bingley on July 5, 2007 at 12:33 PM
Britain-It’s been nice knowin’ ya, Buh-Bye now!
bmac on July 5, 2007 at 12:39 PM
Allaha-uh-Akbar, Beware the Mennonite-Amish Jihad! Those horse and buggy bombs will be a mess!
deadbackpacker on July 5, 2007 at 12:43 PM
I’ve been told that all men can be rapists too.
tlynch001 on July 5, 2007 at 12:46 PM
Beware of Anglican Imams!
Jonas Parker on July 5, 2007 at 12:50 PM
I mean, really, did anyone think to call the Pope every time the IRA got busted? No!
Blake on July 5, 2007 at 12:55 PM
Uh…yep…That’s why you should also put more intelligence resources into suvaillence of all Catholic Churches, including the subversive Knights of Columbus organization, all Protestant churches, including the Saturday morning men’s fellowhip breakfast. Lotsa terrorist activity there. Don’t forget the local synagoges. Make sure you infiltrate Bar Mitzvahs. Never can tell what may be going on at one of those. How about Buddhists? Those orange robes the priests wear look mighty suspicious.
How is it that such a stupid person can rise to such heights?
sdd on July 5, 2007 at 12:58 PM
Not to excuse or minimize any acts of terrorism by the IRA in any way, but there are some major differences between the way the IRA and the Jihadis operate.
The IRA had specific political goals and causes, and their acts of terrorism tended to be aimed at specific targets- police, military, etc in England and Northern Ireland. Thankfully, a political solution was reached. Again, that doesn’t excuse it at all- the IRA murdered innocent people.
The Jihadis just want to kill Westerners and non-Muslims, and aren’t terribly concerned who or where. No political solution exists- even withdrawing from Iraq and Afghanistan completely wouldn’t satisfy them enough to put their bombs away.
It would be a mistake to go too far in comparing the two, since the solutions to the end of IRA violence can’t be applied to the Jihadi scumbags.
Hollowpoint on July 5, 2007 at 1:02 PM
Why do the Brits have this love affair with islamists?
Is it repressed homosexuality?
Is it guilt from their history of colonialism? (best thing that happened to these countries, by the way)
Is it anti-semitism?
What? What? What?
Blake on July 5, 2007 at 1:04 PM
It’s worth pointing out that Britain’s struggles with terrorist activity is not something that’s started with the subway bombings two years ago. There’s these guys called the IRA who are Catholics. The Irish Car Bomb is named after their exploits.
And here in the United States, I suppose it’s been too long since the Oklahoma City bombing of 1996, and the numerous abortion clinic bombings and abortion doctors being shot in the early 90’s by people who believed themselves to be doing the Lord’s work, to remember that terrorism is violence to achieve a political or ideological goal.
Spc Steve on July 5, 2007 at 1:09 PM
Jewish Jihad would be a good name for a softball team, but otherwise it doesn’t make much sense.
Attila (Pillage Idiot) on July 5, 2007 at 1:14 PM
Corrected. “These terrorists” are different. “These terrorists” are committing their barbaric acts in the name of their religion. “These terrorists” are part of an organized global network with well-defined goals which acts according to their religion’s mandates. They do not deny it; they proclaim it loudly for all the world to hear. Yet morons the world over refuse to listen.
I am sick and tired of those apologists who constantly trot out the tired mantra, “What about Christian terrorists like Timothy McVeigh!” McVeigh may have been a terrorist, but he did not commit his heinous crime in the name of Christianity. Indeed, if he had, I am confident that hundreds of millions of Christians as well as hundreds of thousands of Christian clerics would have responded with a resounding “NOT IN OUR NAME!”
Where, oh where, are the billion-plus muslims renouncing the jihad? Where, oh where, are the hundreds of thousands of muslim clerics renouncing the jihad?
At the risk of being banned from my favorite site on the internet, I will go so far as to say this as well: I am sick and tired of hearing about the “vast majority of peaceful muslims.” That majority simply does. not. exist. And I’m also sick and tired of hearing that “the peaceful muslims don’t speak out because they are afraid.” Truth be told, there are only a handful of courageous muslims who do speak out against the greater and lesser jihads, and they are nearly all apostates.
Since I’m on a roll here, I’ll add that I’m also sick and tired of having Islam included in the list of the world’s “great religions.” Having 1.5 billion followers doesn’t make a religion great, it just makes it widespread.
IrishEi on July 5, 2007 at 1:14 PM
Ha! Yeah, I hope the feds are watching Lancaster County, PA. I hear it’s a veritable hotbed of Amish activity.
CP on July 5, 2007 at 1:16 PM
Because the meaning of jihad is not murder all non-muslims, silly. Its true meaning is puppies, and kittens, and rainbows and ice cream . . .
Blake on July 5, 2007 at 1:20 PM
Political Correctness is a way for Marxists to change society without ever having to win a vote. In Britain the PC bullsh*t comes from several directions – the trade unions , the education system, the mainstream media, the metro-cultural elite, the wimpy, wet liberalism of the Church of England (they keep turning the other cheek until their heads are pulped and their religion is just another failed outreach proramme) and the vast layers of NGOs which stick to all levels of government like barnacles on a ship’s hull. Cutting through all this bull takes time and effort which few can manage.
Pandering to the never-ending demands of the muslim minority has become the default position of Britian’s governing classes. For New Labour this pandering also means vital Parliamentary seats. In a close election the inner-city votes of muslims in areas like the Midlands, Yorkshire and East London would mean the difference between national victory or defeat for Labour.
This is a country where the police arrested a 60-year-old English woman because she had her display of ceramic pigs in her front window and passing muslims were offended. This is a country where Derby council removed a centuries old statue of a wild boar from a local park in case it upset muslims.This is a country where a London council banned the flying our of national flag (the Cross of St.George) during the last world cup in case it ……you guessed it….offended muslims.
Short of an event so horrific that thousands of lives are lost I cannot see any way in which the strangehold of political correctness can be broken.
Americans beware – this crept up on the British people so slowly and stealthly
that few noticed it developing until it was way too late.
London Boy on July 5, 2007 at 1:24 PM
“Since I’m on a roll here, I’ll add that I’m also sick and tired of having Islam included in the list of the world’s “great religions.” Having 1.5 billion followers doesn’t make a religion great, it just makes it widespread.”
IrishEi on July 5, 2007 at 1:14 PM
Excellent comment, IrishEi. I think it’s way past time to have Islam reclassified as a cult of death.
London Boy on July 5, 2007 at 1:27 PM
Others have alluded to it, but isn’t it too obvious for Jews, Christians, Sikhs, Jains, Hindus in UK to wage a war for the supremacy of a religion that none of them adhere to?
infidelpride on July 5, 2007 at 1:28 PM
Could, but don’t. Do these chowder heads really believe this nonsense or is it just posturing? Which is worse?
student on July 5, 2007 at 1:30 PM
multiculturalism = religion of the clueless
notashamed on July 5, 2007 at 1:46 PM
Good grief, how willfully ignorant can one be!
I don’t remember who originally said this, but it is the perfect comment here:
infidel4life on July 5, 2007 at 1:49 PM
IrishEi, RIGHT ON, BABY.
London Boy, my heart truly breaks for you and your country.
RushBaby on July 5, 2007 at 1:50 PM
The torture is over.
Islam is a religion of peace.
I love Big Brother.
Halley on July 5, 2007 at 2:03 PM
Actual quote: “These terrorists don’t care who their victims are. They can come from any background, any race, any faith.”
While I of course agree with the broader point that too many of the West’s “leaders” refuse to call a shibel a shibel, I think the “they” in this quote may actually refer to the victims rather than the terrorists.
Of course that’s just my opinion. I could be wrong.
Levy on July 5, 2007 at 2:04 PM
There is a much bigger point missed in all this. If 7 muslim doctors can decide to become terrorists and launch an attack, and they did, what then does that say about muslim airline pilots?
Think about that.
jihadwatcher on July 5, 2007 at 2:18 PM
notashamed on July 5, 2007 at 1:46 PM
S’up, bro?
The seed of Neville Chamberlain has swept over Britain. Mr. Gordon Brown and co.: you are no Margaret Thatcher!
common sensineer on July 5, 2007 at 2:18 PM
Powerful quote, on any day
This terrorist-doctors situation is extremely significant, due to the access they have to all kinds of no-good methods, applied to a trusting populace.
The NHS ‘heaven’ – yep, the best British and Canadian doctors are, and want to be…wait, in the U.S.A.
Entelechy on July 5, 2007 at 2:37 PM
Don’t forget EgyptAir 990:
TheBigOldDog on July 5, 2007 at 2:57 PM
Why the hell would documents like this be “secret” or “classified”?
ReubenJCogburn on July 5, 2007 at 3:08 PM
There is a much bigger point missed in all this. If 7 muslim doctors can decide to become terrorists and launch an attack, and they did, what then does that say about muslim airline pilots?
Think about that.
jihadwatcher on July 5, 2007 at 2:18 PM
My family’s roots are in Glasgow where many still reside. Thankfully, this was not a massacre. I get the point about the 7 Muslim doctors and the Muslim pilots – it is a scary prospect. But everytime I get gas in my car here in the states, it passes through my mind that so many of the stations are owned by Muslims that all they’d need to do is close the gas stations for a week and the country would come to it’s knees. Just saying…
NightmareOnKStreet on July 5, 2007 at 3:09 PM
These terrorists were ISLAMIC. Say it with me, British and EU (and any American, for that matter) apologists: ISLAMIC. NOT Catholics, not Hindu, not Druid, not anything else but I.S.L.A.M.I.C. See?, it’s not that hard to pronounce, and doesn’t it’s sheer accuracy just roll off the tongue?
Practice in front of the mirror every flippin’ morning if you have to, but get it straight! ISLAMIC!
This insane wimpiness about calling a spade a spade has slithered beyond the ridiculous and right off the cliff into the deadly dangerous. Facts matter. Offend someone already! They’ll get over it. If they don’t and threaten murder over the ‘offense’, well then, you now know who to watch.
Next week’s vocabulary lesson for the apologists: JIHAD.
Beth A. on July 5, 2007 at 3:26 PM
Agreed. Terrorists can come from any faith. It just so happens that they are always Islamic, however.
It’s just dumb luck I guess??
awake on July 5, 2007 at 3:51 PM
Amir Taheri – “Prime Minister Gordon Brown keeps repeating that the attacks have nothing to do with Islam – but, at the same time, keeps inviting “Muslim community leaders” to Downing Street to discuss how to prevent attacks. If the attacks have nothing to do with Islam, why invite Muslim “leaders” rather than Buddhist monks [or Catholic nuns]?”
MB4 on July 5, 2007 at 4:16 PM
A headline that could have been, but thankfully wasn’t -
“December 8, 1941, FDR – An attack on the United States of America was perpetrated yesterday, a day that will live in confusion and denial, as such an attack could have come from any nation.”
MB4 on July 5, 2007 at 4:22 PM
“
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…that has its roots in a misogynistic slaveholding pedophile’s raging homicidal vendetta against humanity.
They forgot the final phrase in the thought for some reason.
profitsbeard on July 5, 2007 at 4:22 PM
Man its embarrassing how dhimmi some leaders are. If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck its a duck. Its the religion stupid! Islamic theology is behind every single jihadi terrorist attack! sheesh how exasperating. How can we fight a war if we can’t even name our enemies? the ummah must be laughing themselves silly
Keli on July 5, 2007 at 4:25 PM
Islamostiltskin is thy name!!!
MB4 on July 5, 2007 at 4:30 PM
I would not dismiss the reports of “45 doctors” so fast. Granted, it is three years ago and may not mean much by itself, but no one seems to be talking about the American connection for Al Qaida’s “the people who cure you will kill you” comment to Anglican Canon Andrew White.
“He talked to me about how they were going to destroy British and Americans,” Canon Andrew White, who runs the only Anglican parish in Baghdad, told The Times.
If that was a credible threat to Britain, and it sure seems it was, coming only “several months ago” and not several years ago, then it is a credible threat to the U.S. as well.
Islamic Physicians need to be watched by the F.B.I. Sorry, this is war, and it is the prudent thing to do. Moreover, all Islamic immigrants, regardless of education level, need to be vetted beyond the standard rubber stamp.
Moreover, it is tough for them, but all Islamic professionals need to speak out loud and clear to denouce Islamic terrorism. I know it’s not they’re fault that the terrorists have been at war with us, but now that it’s here, they have to choose sides, otherwise they are helping the enemy and deserve no patients or clients.
G. Charles on July 5, 2007 at 4:35 PM
Let’s see:
Munich/Olympics in ‘72
US Embassy in Iran Takeover in ‘79
Lebanon kidnappings throughout the 80’s
Marine Barrack attack ‘83
Achille Lauro hijacked and a passenger murdered ‘85
TWA Flight 847 hijacked and a US NAVY diver was murdered in ‘85
Pan Am Flight 103 in ‘88
First World Trade Center bombing in ‘93
US Embassies in Kenya and Tanzanie bombed in ‘98
9/11 in the US
Daniel Pearl kidnapped and murdered ‘02
7/7 in the UK
Current events unraveling
Can’t be a connection I guess. Wouldn’t be PC. Dang Lutherans.
mimi1220 on July 5, 2007 at 4:38 PM
their, not they’re
G. Charles on July 5, 2007 at 4:39 PM
mimi-
I figured out the connection between all of your events!
They all happened on Earth.
So, we must look out for Earthlings.
profitsbeard on July 5, 2007 at 4:45 PM
“>Iowahawk does it again. this is some funny stuff here!
deadbackpacker on July 5, 2007 at 5:21 PM
deadbackpacker on July 5, 2007 at 5:22 PM
just go to Iowahaws site, damn computer wont cooperate
deadbackpacker on July 5, 2007 at 5:22 PM
NHS doctors are paid like sh*t. That’s why the British gov’t can’t get any English doctors to work for them and must import them from the Mid-East, NO QUESTIONS ASKED! So don’t think they’re rich dudes with nice houses, blonde wives and swimming pools like here in the US. For all I know,Rageboy is an MD.
As for pilots, maybe they should give them a little raise, just to be on the safe side. I do seem to remember some EgyptAir pilot crashing his plane into the Atlantic off of Canada a few years back screaming Allah on the cockpit recorder. Perhaps it was a contract issue.
Maybe none of this has anything at all to do with Islam, and is merely a labor issue. Do we have a secretary of Labor who could help? What’s Linda Chavez doing these days?
Finally, I’m not all that happy with my own doctors. I’m starting to thing there’s more here than meets the eye.
JiangxiDad on July 5, 2007 at 5:36 PM
You know what else exacerbates division? CAR BOMBS BUILT IN THE NAME OF ALLAH.
Jim Treacher on July 5, 2007 at 5:37 PM
Not that there’s anything wrong with it.
JiangxiDad on July 5, 2007 at 5:41 PM
What I don’t get is how anyone can *not* link Islam and terrorism, since this world has had a big problem with Middle Eastern terrorists – who “just happen” to be Islamic – for DECADES. Sure, you’ll have your Timothy McVeighs. Your Unabombers. Heck, even your Adam Gadahns.
But there is a consistent track record in Islamofascis(ts/m) that is absent from domestic or Westernized terror. Which NBC and the BBC would, of course, rather overlook in the name of tolerance.
The sacred cow.
Ryan Gandy on July 5, 2007 at 6:00 PM
It sounds to me that Mrs. Blears is the kind of person that would tell you the Nazis and the Jews were responsible for the Holocaust. Are all of the British officials such reality deniers ? If they are, Britain doesn’t stand a chance in this struggle with Islam.
Maxx on July 5, 2007 at 6:39 PM
Not saying anything because it is too easy to get banned.
OK, now closing my eyes.
Now putting my fingers in my ears.
“LA,LA,LA,LA,LA EVERYTHING IS OK!”.
AZCON on July 5, 2007 at 9:13 PM
Someone forwarded this to me. I don’t know the origin, but curious if anyone knows.
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In 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by: (a) A salesman from Utah (b) An construction worker (c) A college student on Spring Break (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 1972, 11 Israeli athletes were killed at the Munich Olympics by: (a) Your grandmother (b) A Midwest auto-parts dealer (c) A mom and her 6-year-old son visiting from Indiana (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 1979, the U.S. embassy in Iran was taken over by: (a) A bluegrass band (b) Dallas Cowboy fans (c) A tour group of 80-year-old women (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
During the 1980’s numerous Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by: (a) A family on their way to Disney World (b) Jesse Ventura (c) A Boy Scout Troop (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by: (a) A pizza delivery boy (b) The UPS guy (c) Geraldo Rivera making up for a slow news day (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked, and a 70-year-old disabled American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard by: (a) A girls’ choir (b) A hardware store owner (c) A secretary (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a U.S. Navy diver was murdered by: (a) A Marine officer with two weeks leave (b) A plumber going to visit his mom (c) A Catholic nun (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by: (a) A college-bound freshman (b) A cardiac surgeon on his way to Houston (c) A waitress (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed by: (a) A starving actress (b) A mom with a newborn (c) Twin six-year-old boys (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 1995, a plot to blow up U.S.-bound international flights over the Pacific was attempted by (a) Hawaiian school kids (b) An decorated Vietnam Veteran (c) Twin sisters on their way to Paducah (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 1998, the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by: (a) A local TV weatherman (b) A dad and his two sons on a ski trip (c) A widower going to visit his grandchildren (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 2000, 17 sailors died in an attack on the USS Cole (DDG 67) in Yemen by: (a) A child in a stroller (b) A high school class on their way to visit Washington, DC (c) Newlyweds on their way to Miami (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked — two flown into the World Trade Centers, one into the Pentagon and one into the ground in rural Pennsylvania. They were hijacked by: (a) A retired police officer on a mission trip to Haiti (b) A firefighter going to Maryland for training (c) An paramedic on his way to vacation in Hawaii (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 2002 the United States liberated Afghanistan from: (a) USAID relief workers (b) Jewish Pilgrims (c) Christian missionaries (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl and other Westerners were kidnapped and beheaded by: (a) The Peace Corp (b) Scottish clansmen (c) Cuban refugees (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 2002, more than 330 hostages in Beslan and 130 hostages in Moscow were murdered in sieges by: (a) Russian exchange students (b) The Red Guard (c) Church planters (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 2003 the United States liberated Iraq from “The Butcher of Baghdad,” but most American military personnel were killed by: (a) Iraqi school-girls (b) Street vegetable venders (c) Women without burkas (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 2004, more than 200 Spanish civilians were murdered on trains by bombs in Madrid, detonated by: (a) Morning commuters (b) A three-year-old Chinese girl (c) Flamenco dancers (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 2005 more than 50 UK citizens were killed by bombs on trains in London, detonated by: (a) Rail workers (b) Those unable to hail taxis (c) Wheelchair-bound grandmothers (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 2005, there were hundreds of casualties, men, women and children, killed by bombs in Jerusalem, Riyadh and Amman. These innocent civilians were murdered by: (a) Construction workers (b) Farmers (c) Christian missionaries (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 2005, the city of Paris, and other European cities experienced an extended period of riots and destruction. The unrest was led by: (a) “Youth” (b) Soccer fans (c) Catholic nuns (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
Since the beginning of Operation Iraqi Freedom, more than 2,500 Americans have been murdered by terrorists. 35,000 Iraqi men, women and children have also been murdered by terrorists. Most of the combat and civilians casualties were the result of bombs detonated in civilian population centers by: (a) Fruit vendors in Baghdad (b) Disgruntled transit union workers (c) Iraqi schoolteachers (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 2006, hundreds of Israeli civilians have been killed by rockets launched by: (a) the Salvation Army (b) remnants of the ‘Jackson Five’ (c) the cast of ‘Friends’ (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
In 2006, a plot to blow up 10 U.S.-bound planes from the U.K. was attempted by (a) members of the royal family (b) Japanese tourists (c) groupies of the band ‘Cream’ (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
Since 2001, the FBI reports that there are major terrorist cells still in U.S. urban centers. Several of these cells have been uncovered and cell members arrested. In every case, the terrorists cell members were: (a) Southern Baptists Conventioneers (b) Lutheran Youth Groups (c) Presbyterian Elders (d) Middle Eastern Islamist males between the ages of 17 and 40.
AZ_Redneck on July 5, 2007 at 9:30 PM
Her exact words were:
I seem to be alone in this, but I read that to mean that their victims “can come from any background, any race, any faith”. There’s a lot of PC garbage that comes out of the British government, but I don’t think that this is an example of it.
jic on July 5, 2007 at 10:20 PM
There’s your problem right there. He learned early on that people could be manipulated by the fear of his thunder-and-lightning-of-God. He should have been taught early on to fear his mother much, much more than Allah.
Anwyn on July 5, 2007 at 10:31 PM
I hope the cops are keeping an eye on the Quakers. Society of Friends, my ass.
andycanuck on July 5, 2007 at 10:48 PM
If y’all want to know the level to which British moonbats will sink to deny there’s an islamic terrorist threat please read this..
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06/29/more_fear_biscuits_please/
London Boy on July 6, 2007 at 4:23 AM
Hang on a moment…
Whilst I’d be the first to admit that in terms of ministerial qualities Hazal Blears is not in the 1st tier – after 10 years in office “New Labour” have very few untarnished 1st team players, as evidenced by the appointment of Margret “bloody stoopid” Becket as our FO minister – her comments about any race or religion seem in context to refer to the victims of terrorim, and not the perpetrators.
That isn’t to say that people like “Red” Ken livingstone don’t trot out such morally relativistic nonesense with alarming regularity, just that in this instance I suspect that we may be judging her words in a context that they were not in fact meant.
SimonBarnett on July 6, 2007 at 7:15 AM
It is a form of societal guilt for all the mucking up of the middle east that the British did early in the last century. Kind of like ‘white guilt’ over anything termed racist by the Politically Correct crowd here in the USA.
Lawrence on July 6, 2007 at 11:57 AM
Communities Secretary, Hazel Blears:
“These terrorists don’t care who their victims are. They can come from any background, any race, any faith” she said.
I agree there’s plenty of “PC run amok” to go around, but in this particular instance, gramatically, isn’t Blears referring to the “victims” potentially coming from any background, etc.?
max1 on July 6, 2007 at 1:45 PM
Oh I see SimomBarnett already made my above point, and more eloquently … sorry I’ll alert the “Department of Redundancy Department..” :)
max1 on July 6, 2007 at 1:47 PM
That was from none other than Ann Coulter
Dasher on July 6, 2007 at 1:50 PM
This is reminding me of the 20th century…..savin the snarly butt’s of the europee’s again. That is of course if we can get rid of this politcal correctness crap 1st.
oldernslower on July 6, 2007 at 11:13 PM
I made that point yesterday, and nobody noticed. I’m going to go and find somewhere to cry now…
jic on July 7, 2007 at 12:03 AM
Thanks for the info.
AZ_Redneck on July 7, 2007 at 10:24 AM
All Muslims are not terrorists but for the past 7 years or so all terrorists have been Muslims whether it be the Philippines, Iraq, Thailand, England, Spain, France, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, USA, Indonesia and 100 or so other countries.
Also in countries where Muslims are the majority there is total repression of all others. In countries where Muslims are the minority there is total non-cooperation and often organized terrorism.
As for the British pussyfoot speeches about terrorists coming in all shapes and sizes, religions, nationalities, races blah blah blah blah. Show me the money–i.e. all the Methodist, Church of England, Baptist, Buddhist, Catholic, Confucian, Jewish, etc. terrorists. In fact terrorists do come in two shapes–Timothy McVeigh and Muslims. Period.
MaiDee on July 8, 2007 at 10:41 AM
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