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Boston Globe: Was Fred a mole for Nixon?

posted at 1:42 pm on July 5, 2007 by Allahpundit
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As if he won’t have a hard enough time distancing himself from number two on the all-time list of presidential unfavorables, now he’s got to distance himself from number one as well.

We had to relive Vietnam in the last election, now we’ll get to relive Watergate in this one. Who’ll be eligible to run in 2012 that was associated with Iran-Contra?

“Thompson was a mole for the White House,” [Scott] Armstrong said in an interview. “Fred was working hammer and tong to defeat the investigation of finding out what happened to authorize Watergate and find out what the role of the president was.”…

On July 13, 1973, Armstrong, the Democratic staffer, asked Butterfield a series of questions during a private session that led up to the revelation. He then turned the questioning over to a Republican staffer, Don Sanders, who asked [Nixon aide Alexander] Butterfield the question that led to the mention of the taping system.

To the astonishment of everyone in the room, Butterfield admitted the taping system existed.

When Thompson learned of Butterfield’s admission, he leaked the revelation to Nixon’s counsel, J. Fred Buzhardt.

“Even though I had no authority to act for the committee, I decided to call Fred Buzhardt at home” to tell him that the committee had learned about the taping system, Thompson wrote [in his Watergate memoir, "At That Point In Time"]. “I wanted to be sure that the White House was fully aware of what was to be disclosed so that it could take appropriate action.”

Armstrong said he and other Democratic staffers had long been convinced that Thompson was leaking information about the investigation to the White House. The committee, for example, had obtained a memo written by Buzhardt that Democratic staffers believed was based on information leaked by Thompson.

Armstrong said he thought the leaks would lead to Thompson’s firing.

This could actually be fertile ground for a Democratic attack in the general if they flesh it out and try to tie it in to Bush’s warrantless wiretapping program. Not because the circumstances are similar in any material way, but because it would put Fred in a box with Bush and Nixon as shady, secretive, more-of-the-same Republicans. The problem is, how do they get around the fact that he did indeed ask Butterfield the famous question about listening devices and his general reputation for, er, law and order? And what Republican would dare pursue this line of attack in the primary?

Update: Given Fred’s vociferous support for pardoning Libby, they don’t really need this for a “more of the same” attack, do they?


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I’m no Fred fan (I know, you’re shocked) but this is ridiculous.

amerpundit on July 5, 2007 at 1:46 PM

As a former Nixon voter…..two thumbs up.

Limerick on July 5, 2007 at 1:47 PM

The Dems are running scared. The media attacks have just begun for Thompson. They will always go after the leader of the pack.

However, despite all the media lies, every conservative should be putting their 50 dollar donation into the imwithfred fund.

Get moving people! =)

msipes on July 5, 2007 at 1:47 PM

Who’ll be eligible to run in 2012 that was associated with Iran-Contra?

OLLIE FOR PRESIDENT!

Frozen Tex on July 5, 2007 at 1:49 PM

OLLIE FOR PRESIDENT!

Frozen Tex on July 5, 2007 at 1:49 PM

Beat me to it…so I’ll just have to settle for a simple “I have no recollection of that, whatsoever.”

James on July 5, 2007 at 1:54 PM

“Even though I had no authority to act for the committee, I decided to call Fred Buzhardt at home” to tell him that the committee had learned about the taping system, Thompson wrote [in his Watergate memoir, “At That Point In Time”]. “I wanted to be sure that the White House was fully aware of what was to be disclosed so that it could take appropriate action.”

This is called “disclosure.” All prosecutors are required to do this. The fact that (apparently) the investigators had no one authorized to handle this sort of thing is an indictment of Congress’ system, not of Fred Thompson.

Thompson did exactly what he was ethically required to do, and now the Boston Globe is trying to paint that as somehow evil.

logis on July 5, 2007 at 1:54 PM

The past is a barometer to the future.

Kini on July 5, 2007 at 1:56 PM

*channeling csdeven*

See! Fred? is unelectable :P

lorien1973 on July 5, 2007 at 1:56 PM

Again…another dip into the mud bucket and they come up with a clean dipper!

Unless they have a picture of him in bed with a dead girl or live boy I don’t think they are going to find much on Fred!

Pilgrim on July 5, 2007 at 1:58 PM

The problem is, how do they get around the fact that he did indeed ask Butterfield the famous question about listening devices and his general reputation for, er, law and order?

He was in fact, a double agent. Selling his services to the highest bidder, much like he did when he was a lobbyist. Throw in a dash of the Carlyle Group, and you’ve got the makings for some lefty spin.

rw on July 5, 2007 at 1:58 PM

Limerick – I thought I was the only person in 49 States that admits they voted for Nixon.

msflea on July 5, 2007 at 1:59 PM

Well somehow this really just isn’t even remotely surprising since Rasmussen posted today that Fred is mow tied with Her Satanic Majesty Hillary. Countdown till csdeven comes in and his head explodes…5…4…3…2…

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_2008_clinton_thompson_tied

doriangrey on July 5, 2007 at 1:59 PM

. . . and the Boston Globe is the illegitimate step child of the New York Times. I’m sure we’ll see an onslaught of lying propaganda coming from all elements of the leftist media.

rplat on July 5, 2007 at 2:00 PM

This great revelation of his disclosure was in fact revealed by Fred himself in his Watergate book several years ago.

DCJeff on July 5, 2007 at 2:03 PM

He was in fact, a double agent. Selling his services to the highest bidder, much like he did when he was a lobbyist. Throw in a dash of the Carlyle Group, and you’ve got the makings for some lefty spin.

rw on July 5, 2007 at 1:58 PM

Ohhh… you mean he was a LAWYER in a politicaly charged situation?

One who initialy thought Nixon was probably innocent? As MANY did until the investigation prooved otherwise? Prooved WITH his help?

And he’s sooooo ashamed of his actions in this that HE WROTE IT IN HIS BOOK????

Run FRED! Run…

Romeo13 on July 5, 2007 at 2:04 PM

msflea on July 5, 2007 at 1:59 PM

Never…….Checkers lives!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Limerick on July 5, 2007 at 2:05 PM

This makes me like him even more.

bmac on July 5, 2007 at 2:06 PM

Welcome to the big leagues, Fred. Maybe you would be smarter to just stay on the sidelines. Perhaps this is why you haven’t announced anything yet? Either man-up and get in the ring, or get the hell out of the discussion!

revolutionismyname on July 5, 2007 at 2:08 PM

It’s amazing what secrets you can find out about a candidate by reading the candidate’s own published memoir. Great scoop, Globe!

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on July 5, 2007 at 2:09 PM

Yeah, AP, but did he put his dog on top of the car in a closed carrier and build it a windshield before going on a trip?!?!

As a moderately well-informed young person, can I just say that I happen to like the fact that Thompson felt the need to give the White House a head’s up since they were in the middle of a war and certainly didn’t need to be blind sided by the “gotcha!” wing of the Democratic party.

Now, as a young person (26), can I also say that we don’t care about Vietnam, Watergate, flower power, or any of the other things the aging hippies are desperately clinging to as sad mementos of their ‘glory days’….

Sure, some young libs might shout the slogans and mention Vietnam and Watergate, but they do it in the same way that they shout “No blood for oil” when protesting the war in Afghanistan. They don’t know what it means or why it does/doesn’t make sense in that case, they just know that it means they are “Ragin’ against The Man!”. I could be wrong, but, I strongly doubt that Watergate is going to destroy anyone’s candidacy.

JadeNYU on July 5, 2007 at 2:11 PM

We would not have had the whole Camelot saga ( and I bet he shagged more babes that Billy boy in the WH, at the very least much more quality babes) if Nixon had better make-up in that first televised debate. Google this.

bbz123 on July 5, 2007 at 2:11 PM

I am a fan of Fred!

The Moonbat over at the Boston Globe are literally scraping the bottom of the barrel for their material lately.

Oh, poor poor Scott Armstrong! Still upset after 34 years! Wasn’t President Nixon leaving the Oval Office in disgrace good enough for him? /sarc

kiakjones on July 5, 2007 at 2:12 PM

Not because the circumstances are similar in any material way, but because it would put Fred in a box with Bush and Nixon as shady, secretive, more-of-the-same Republicans.

Mr. Bush 43 is lucky in his adversaries.
Mr. Thompson will be lucky in the shadiness of his opponent in the general.

It’s always the degree of shades, unfortunately, or fortunately, depending on the perch one’s on.

The liberals’ curse is Hillary’s (the Clintons’) power appetite.

Entelechy on July 5, 2007 at 2:13 PM

Not sure how big league this is. It seems to be a case of praising with faint damnation.

Immolate on July 5, 2007 at 2:16 PM

He conceded Illinois in 60 because he was an American first and Nixon second. All the Nixon you can associate with Fred! the better. Mr. Gore on the other hand, well we know his priorities (and the price we all still pay for them).

Limerick on July 5, 2007 at 2:16 PM

revolutionismyname on July 5, 2007 at 2:08 PM

Or perhaps he is reading the American people correctly, and the others in the race started WAYYYYY too early.

This Presidential race started MUCH earlier than any other in history… and its playing to the party bases, and MSM…

That FRED! is near, or at, that top of the Republican primary without even really being in it tells me he is playing this smart…

And.. the latest Rasmusen poll has him in a Dead Heat if up against Hillary…. all without spending any money…

Go FRED! Go!

Romeo13 on July 5, 2007 at 2:17 PM

revolutionismyname on July 5, 2007 at 2:08 PM

I can only laugh at people like you, he’s the GOP front runner and now tied with Shillary, hasn’t spent a dime getting there and isnt burdened by any legal restrictions on his fund raising, and fool that you are you want him to throw away the strategy that thus far has not only gotten him there, but proven him to be the most innovative and original thinking presidential candidate in the last 60 years.

Yep thats one hell of a winning strategy you got there bub, don’t be too shocked when Fred fails to follow your profoundly pathetic advice.

doriangrey on July 5, 2007 at 2:18 PM

hasn’t spent a dime getting there

Didn’t have to. He has the Fox News Channel, conservative talk radio, the Wash Times, NY Post, WSJ and every other right-wing rag in the country kissing his ass.

Won’t matter though, he’ll still get wiped out in the general election when it comes apparent how much of an empty suit he is, and it becomes clear to the voters that the only reason he even got the Republican nomination is because he’s an empty-headed white southerner with a deep voice. It’ll be spectacular to see him try to keep up with Obama or Clinton in an actual debate. The man is a walking caricature of a dumbass Southern Republican.

Fragility on July 5, 2007 at 2:22 PM

he’s an empty-headed white southerner
Fragility on July 5, 2007 at 2:22 PM

Tell us how you really feel Fragility! LOL

Limerick on July 5, 2007 at 2:24 PM

Lim, keep your humor and save your guns until early Nov. 2008.

Entelechy on July 5, 2007 at 2:26 PM

I voted for Nixon. So did my husband. I have no shame about that.

Glynn on July 5, 2007 at 2:26 PM

And just to be sure, by guns I didn’t mean the firing ones, just the pen’s power.

Entelechy on July 5, 2007 at 2:27 PM

he’s an empty-headed white southerner
Fragility on July 5, 2007 at 2:22 PM

Sorta like Billary?

Limerick on July 5, 2007 at 2:29 PM

It’ll be spectacular to see him try to keep up with Obama or Clinton in an actual debate.

Oh, I’d pay good money to watch a Thompson/Obama debate. But sadly, if it’s Fred!, he’ll be mopping the floor with Hillary.

Pablo on July 5, 2007 at 2:30 PM

Fragility on July 5, 2007 at 2:22 PM,

Please just put the crack pipe down and back slowly away from it…do it for the kittens, not the kittens in the soup you had for lunch this afternoon but for all the other kittens that you haven’t already eaten…..

doriangrey on July 5, 2007 at 2:30 PM

mopping the floor with Hillary.

Now, I’d pay real money to see THAT!!!

jdawg on July 5, 2007 at 2:31 PM

It’ll be spectacular to see him try to keep up with Obama or Clinton in an actual debate.

Fragility on July 5, 2007 at 2:22 PM

Really? because Shrillary and Obuma have really had hard debates up to this point?

The MSM and the Dem debates have given both of these folks a pass… talk about empty suits…

Hillary LIED to the American people. She recently LIED in a deposition about campaign finances… and SHOULD be brought up on charges. She has NO experience, except at trying to destroy the American Medical system (Hillary care anyone?)…

Obama? If he was not black, he would not even be in the race. No experience, really shakey background, and belongs to a RACIST CHURCH!

I’d rather take the substance of FRED! than the Charisma of either of these two…

Romeo13 on July 5, 2007 at 2:31 PM

It’s getting to the point where potential presidential candidates will have to be isolated from any contact with the public from the time he/she exits the womb!

Wake up people, we hired Jimmy Carter because he didn’t have a record of being a DC insider! Arguably the worst President of the 20th century.

highhopes on July 5, 2007 at 2:31 PM

Fred! is NO Jimmah

Thank God…

jdawg on July 5, 2007 at 2:32 PM

Man the hit pieces on Thomson just keep on coming. First this one, now this.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070705/ap_on_el_pr/fred_thompson_analysis;_ylt=AuWWegkGsfYqvFM..CDVn8Rp24cA

BohicaTwentyTwo on July 5, 2007 at 2:33 PM

I guess Frag left the debate again because of my insecurity.

Fred!Nixon 08!

Limerick on July 5, 2007 at 2:34 PM

and SHOULD be brought up on charges.

ROFL, still outraged that you can’t put your political opponents in prison? One of these days you’re going to have to crawl out of that conservative bubble you’ve isolated yourself in and realize that the majority of the people in this country don’t like your ideology, methods or politicians. Get over it.

Fragility on July 5, 2007 at 2:35 PM

Man the hit pieces on Thomson just keep on coming.

Funny how you can’t really offer a rebuttal to anything in this “hit piece”.

He deflects questions on what a Thompson presidency would look like and demurs when pressed for specific proposals for how to fix the nation’s ills.

Empty suit.

Fragility on July 5, 2007 at 2:37 PM

majority of the people in this country don’t like your ideology, methods or politicians.

According to whom?

jdawg on July 5, 2007 at 2:37 PM

@doriangrey

NICE POST! FRED MY MAN!

msipes on July 5, 2007 at 2:38 PM

can’t put your political opponents in prison?

Isn’t that the Hitlery plan? What with the “fairness” doctrine, and all…

jdawg on July 5, 2007 at 2:39 PM

doriangrey on July 5, 2007 at 2:18 PM

Don’t get me wrong, if Fred is the nominee, he’ll get my vote. My comment was aimed more at the MSM machine that is already putting Fred in the crosshairs. Perhaps he is playing the game smartly, but IMO, I would like to see him announce, so we can find out the specifics of his platform. Just because you Fred-heads want him to be the next Reagan, doesn’t mean that he is.

revolutionismyname on July 5, 2007 at 2:39 PM

Fragility on July 5, 2007 at 2:35 PM

No just outraged that we cant put criminals in prison where they belong…….

doriangrey on July 5, 2007 at 2:40 PM

So far, the only criticisms that have been levelled at Fred! is that he’s white, male, and from the South.

Yeah, that’s enough to send the libs in a frenzy.

jdawg on July 5, 2007 at 2:41 PM

I think this is just crap flinging coming from the Clinton machine through their operatives in the press. Expect more of the same, they are just experimenting to see if any of it sticks to the wall. (that should tell you who they think is going to get the nomination)

The thing I like about Fred is, I think when the mudslinging gets going good, I believe he will sling back. Hillary won’t be able to combat that. he will have way too much ammunition.

conservnut on July 5, 2007 at 2:42 PM

Didn’t have to. He has the Fox News Channel, conservative talk radio, the Wash Times, NY Post, WSJ and every other right-wing rag in the country kissing his ass.

You don’t read or watch any of those, do you? If you did, you’d know that wasn’t true at all with the possible exception of talk radio, which I don’t listen to and can’t attest to.

I love the smell of lefty fear in the afternoon. Or any time, really.

Hollowpoint on July 5, 2007 at 2:45 PM

Fragility on July 5, 2007 at 2:35 PM

Sigh… did I say anything about prison?

I said charges. She lied… to a court… it should be investigated…

try…

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200706/POL20070629a.html

Not an unbiased source, but I don’t think you’ll find an unbiased source on this.

And by the way… I happen to be Libertarian in outlook, and am currently registered independant… I just don’t like people who LIE TO ME.

Romeo13 on July 5, 2007 at 2:45 PM

revolutionismyname on July 5, 2007 at 2:39 PM

I would like to see him announce, so we can find out the specifics of his platform

You’re kidding right……You want him to shoot himself in the foot so that you a person sitting in front of a computer with access to the internet can continue to be lazy, the specifics of his platform are out there at the click of a mouse and a quick google search.

No seriously you need to back up and rethink your self centered need for instant gratification. Fred is currently running the most brilliant political campaign in modern American politics. If you dont get this, then all I can do is pity you.

doriangrey on July 5, 2007 at 2:46 PM

Wait….wait…wait…..
Frag gives us a CBS/NYT poll in 5, 4, 3, 2,……

Limerick on July 5, 2007 at 2:46 PM

She lied… to a court… it should be investigated…

You’re kidding, right? Hitlery could commit cold-blooded murder on the WH steps in front of every camera on the planet, and the MSM would either ignore it or blame it on Bush, or global warming, or talk radio.

jdawg on July 5, 2007 at 2:48 PM

revolutionismyname on July 5, 2007 at 2:39 PM

Go listen to his podcasts… you’ll get a really good idea of how he thinks…

Romeo13 on July 5, 2007 at 2:49 PM

I would like to see him announce, so we can find out the specifics of his platform. Just because you Fred-heads want him to be the next Reagan, doesn’t mean that he is.

revolutionismyname on July 5, 2007 at 2:39 PM

I agree, but let’s not forget that Super Tuesday is still 6 months away. I’ve read that he does have some policy heavyweights helping to formulate policy specifics. Also note that the other candidates have been planning their campaigns for about a year (or more!) now, while Fred! has had around 4 months.

I’m eagerly anticipating his announcement and policy specifics too, but it’s hard to deny that his strategy has worked well so far if the polls are to believed.

Hollowpoint on July 5, 2007 at 2:51 PM

the majority of the people in this country don’t like your ideology, methods or politicians. Get over it.

Fragility on July 5, 2007 at 2:35 PM

Is that why Republicans have won 7 out of the last ten Presidential elections?

Just curious

conservnut on July 5, 2007 at 2:54 PM

“He’s a good speaker and said things I think that essentially most Americans agree with, but I really don’t know that much about him or what he’d do.”

Interesting. There’s info about him and his positions all over, this person agrees with him, but wants more.

Am I the only person who sees the idiocy of this statement?

jdawg on July 5, 2007 at 2:54 PM

conservnut on July 5, 2007 at 2:54 PM

I’m still waiting for the source of this claim.

jdawg on July 5, 2007 at 2:55 PM

jdawg on July 5, 2007 at 2:54 PM

Well lets put it this way…Muslims are not the only ones who practice Taqiyya…Liberals probably owe Islam trillions of dollars in copyright royalties for their use of Taqiyya…

doriangrey on July 5, 2007 at 2:59 PM

conservnut on July 5, 2007 at 2:54 PM

Six, not seven…

doriangrey on July 5, 2007 at 3:01 PM

doriangrey on July 5, 2007 at 2:46 PM
Romeo13 on July 5, 2007 at 2:49 PM

Most brilliant campaign? What campaign??? I pity you if you’ve already ordained Fred as the next coming of Christ Reagan.
I’ve listened to Fred’s podcasts. Considering the fact that every four years we get someone barking up the same tree for the most part, color me skeptical until I hear more specifics. But don’t mind me, keep drinking the kool-aid.
Sheesh, now I know what its like to be on the wrong side of a Fred-head.

revolutionismyname on July 5, 2007 at 3:02 PM

I’m still waiting for the source of this claim.

jdawg on July 5, 2007 at 2:55 PM

I got a feeling you will be waiting a long time dawg.

conservnut on July 5, 2007 at 3:02 PM

Look! Breasts!

km on July 5, 2007 at 3:02 PM

Six, not seven…

doriangrey on July 5, 2007 at 3:01 PM

Nixon Twice
Carter
Regan twice
Bush
Clinton twice
Bush twice

conservnut on July 5, 2007 at 3:04 PM

ROFL, still outraged that you can’t put your political opponents in prison? One of these days you’re going to have to crawl out of that conservative bubble you’ve isolated yourself in and realize that the majority of the people in this country don’t like your ideology, methods or politicians. Get over it.

Fragility on July 5, 2007 at 2:35 PM

Quite obviously you are not referring to the USA when using the term ‘this country’.

News2Use on July 5, 2007 at 3:07 PM

conservnut on July 5, 2007 at 2:54 PM

Opp’s correction your right…….Nixon to GW…10 elections, Dem presidents..Jimmy Carter 1, Bill Clinton 2, Rep presidents
Nixon 2, Reagan, 2 GHW, 1 GW, 2…

doriangrey on July 5, 2007 at 3:09 PM

Funny how you can’t really offer a rebuttal to anything in this “hit piece”.

He deflects questions on what a Thompson presidency would look like and demurs when pressed for specific proposals for how to fix the nation’s ills

Maybe, just maybe, the country is not as ailing as AP’s political correspondant thinks it is.

BohicaTwentyTwo on July 5, 2007 at 3:14 PM

revolutionismyname on July 5, 2007 at 3:02 PM,

Like I said, I pity you. You’re like those guys who made buggy whips when the automobile began being mass produced. Like the record industry when on-line sharing was introduced. You have been run over by something you can not see or understand and you have no idea what has happened or that it even happened.

doriangrey on July 5, 2007 at 3:14 PM

For an “empty suit” and so much “nothing to worry about” there sure are many hit pieces, lately.

Can’t wait for Fred to jump in, at his own choosing, and then to hit back. How much fun it’ll be. All those games ahead of the real gladiators…

Entelechy on July 5, 2007 at 3:14 PM

Most brilliant campaign? What campaign???
revolutionismyname on July 5, 2007 at 3:02 PM

Grade: F
Does not pay attention in class.

I guess he just makes travelling appearances, writes articles, give interviews and makes speeches just as a new found hobby. Couldn’t be connected with a campaign or anything like that.

Hollowpoint on July 5, 2007 at 3:17 PM

Sheesh, now I know what its like to be on the wrong side of a Fred-head.

revolutionismyname on July 5, 2007 at 3:02 PM

Yeah, just let that go man.

Spirit of 1776 on July 5, 2007 at 3:17 PM

doriangrey on July 5, 2007 at 3:14 PM

Easy there, friend. If you’re right, I’ll happily buy you a Coke the day after the election. But just keep in mind how easily one can be betrayed by politicians. After the way Bush and so many other Republicans have betrayed their loyal followers, I’m extremely hesitant to completely bow at the feet of anyone running for office. You’ve obviously put the Reagan mask on him already, good for you. Again, color me skeptical. Until he declares and opens himself up to debates, I’m just going to wait to cover my car with Fred bumper stickers. But by all means, go ahead.

revolutionismyname on July 5, 2007 at 3:24 PM

Fred! has them soiling their pants.

I love it!

Fred! / Hunter in ‘08

omnipotent on July 5, 2007 at 3:28 PM

It will be good to hear Fred in a debate. We shall see if he can hold his own. That tape of Reagan on HA the other day sure made me mis a kick @ss no holes barred politician. This PC stuff really sucks.

saiga on July 5, 2007 at 3:35 PM

revolutionismyname on July 5, 2007 at 3:24 PM

Key here is that you dismiss FRED! proponents. You “pity” us…

Keeping an open mind is one thing, but that is not how you potrayed yourself… you attacked.

Guiliani ran a Sanctuary City as Mayor… thats ALL I need to know about him…. but then theres abortion flips, and second amendment issues…

McCain is hurting Free speech, the rule of law, and is for amnesty.

Romney has flip flopped too many times, and reminds me of a conservative version of Bill Clinton… just way too slick.

FRED! appears to be pro border control, pro law and order, pro constitution, wants Roe V Wade overturned and turned back to the states, is a Federalist, wants limited Federal government, is pro states rights, for freedom of speech, and understands that we have enemies out there who wish to end our Freedom and way of life….

These are ALL things about his positions I really like, and I, for one, would rather have someone who believes as I do in office, than someone who doesn’t.

Romeo13 on July 5, 2007 at 3:45 PM

It will be good to hear Fred in a debate. We shall see if he can hold his own. That tape of Reagan on HA the other day sure made me mis a kick @ss no holes barred politician. This PC stuff really sucks.

I assume you’re talking about Ronald Reagan’s radio show?

Thompson’s got one of those too: http://www.abcrn.com/thompson/player/thompson.html I don’t think you’ll find much that’s PC anywhere in there.

Did you ever notice that the rabid anti-Frederalists don’t ever seem to get around to mentioning the name of the candidate they think is MORE conservative than Fred Thompson?

As for the debates, people forget that Reagan wasn’t particularly good at snappy comebacks. The TV pundits wet themselves at the slightest hint of a “zinger,” but the average voter is quite a bit smarter than that.

logis on July 5, 2007 at 3:58 PM

dorian:

Liberals probably owe Islam trillions of dollars in copyright royalties for their use of Taqiyya…

Heh. I think they’re hoping to be last in line at the chopping block

jdawg on July 5, 2007 at 4:04 PM

I got a feeling you will be waiting a long time dawg.

Yeah, I’m still waiting…

jdawg on July 5, 2007 at 4:05 PM

revolutionismyname on July 5, 2007 at 3:24 PM

After the way Bush and so many other Republicans have betrayed their loyal followers, I’m extremely hesitant to completely bow at the feet of anyone running for office.

Hold on now, I completely agree with this sentiment…Hope that doesnt shock you too much…

You’ve obviously put the Reagan mask on him already, good for you.

You misunderstand, misunderstanding you reach a faulty conclusion. Fred is not by any measure the next Reagan. What he is, is the first politician to grasp that a fundamental shift has taken place in American politics. It’s called electorate interaction, and it is being fueled by the internet.

For the past 4 decades the American electorate has been bombarded by an increasingly hostile corrupt and liberal media. The strangle hold that the elitist liberal media has had is rapidly coming to an end. It is coming to an end because the elitist liberal media no longer has sole control of the information the public receives on any news topic.

Howard Dean discovered the power of the internet to raise funds, but he failed to grasp the power of the internet to change the dynamics of the political landscape. Fred Thompson made that connection.

His net-centric campaign is allowing him a unprecedented near real time interactive dialog with the electorate. It is changing before all of our eyes the tactics and strategies employed by those seeking office.

Where once political success was determined by the partisan connection one had and the campaign funds they were able to raise, it is now by Fred’s campaign being redefined into a new paradigm shift where interaction on a personal level with the electorate defines success.

While Ronald Reagan has been described as the great communicator Fred will be described as the great democratizer.

We live in a democratic republic that more and more has shut out the electorate silenced the general publics voice and given over policy decisions to those with the money to influence elected officials.

The senate recently discovered that it works for the electorate, it discovered this because the internet has given the electorate the power to inform itself on policy issues and then give voice to its will on those issues.

By making his campaign net-centric Fred is taking that newly awakened power of the electorate and focused a bright light on it. He is destroying the ability of the elitist liberal media to control elections by controlling the information the electorate has about the candidates.

He is destroying the ability of the ultra wealthy to control elections by rendering their mind bogglingly large sums of money irrelevant.

I desire to see Fred succeed because a success for Fred by the tactics he has embraced means the people of the United States regain control of the electoral process and it slips forever out of the corrupt hands of the ultra wealthy, the liberal media elitists and the special interest groups that have stolen this great republic from the citizens of this republic.

doriangrey on July 5, 2007 at 4:05 PM

For an “empty suit” and so much “nothing to worry about” there sure are many hit pieces, lately.

Could not have said it better myself.

jdawg on July 5, 2007 at 4:05 PM

Romeo13 on July 5, 2007 at 3:45 PM

I was not attacking, just questioning a person’s blind loyalty to this guy that has declared nothing at this point. You can say what you want about what Fred is in favor of, it all sounds great, but until he throws his hat in the ring, it means little to me. Do you find out more from a candidate from their own campaign commercial, or in a well-run debate, where the candidate may be challenged to defend their views, and (God-forbid), provide some more details to what they believe. Again, not attacking, just skeptical.

revolutionismyname on July 5, 2007 at 4:11 PM

of the internet to change the dynamics of the political landscape. Fred Thompson made that connection.

heh; by watching Kos.

Maybe he is waiting to announce until he is done ‘boning-up’ on the issues. Like Novak said the other day regarding the fair tax.

Spirit of 1776 on July 5, 2007 at 4:14 PM

The AP article has freddie boy nailed.

fred? is a midget with a bullhorn standing behind a cardboard cutout of Reagan spewing the talking points that he steals from real candidates.

And his history with Watergate is just another part of his history that pulls back the curtain on this Ozonian wizard. It wont be the issue that brings down his house of cards, but it surely is another issue that gives force to the hurricane that is building against this lying faking actor.

Luckily for him he has groupies who lap up his crap about Cuban immigration and swoon every time he gives another speech or pod cast. Unluckily for him, there are those of us who see the truth about him and point out his complete lack of understanding of Cuban immigration, other issues, and his cowardice in the face of real candidates doing real debate.

C’mon freddie boy. Get out from behind your kids and grow a pair so we can vet you out the first time you open your mouth to defend your indefensible history.

csdeven on July 5, 2007 at 4:18 PM

So, the reason he’s tied with Hitlery in the polls is because… he’s an empty suit that knows nothing and stands for nothing, and what the heck, probably doesn’t even ~really~ exist….

Yeah.

jdawg on July 5, 2007 at 4:22 PM

Fred who?

I mean, I’ve seen the man on Leno. He seems to like rehashing old ideas that appeal to conservatives. I know him from Law and Order…

But who is this Fred Thompson fellow? It isn’t as if he is running for President.

BKennedy on July 5, 2007 at 4:25 PM

But who is this Fred Thompson fellow? It isn’t as if he is running for President.

He doesn’t really exist. He’s just a walking Photoshop…

jdawg on July 5, 2007 at 4:28 PM

Being somewhat new to the GOP…converted the FIRST time I saw MICHELLE on tv talking about the invasion…Maybe over a year or so ago…. I knew right then and there, that night, someone was out there fighting for us. Hence, demo to gop….that night was special to me….I’m willing to give up on a healthcare plan (pieinthesky) that me and my family so desperately need…..to vote for any person MICHELLE speak’s kindly of……..My point: is there any Afr.Amer. women out there that can counter the Hilary-Obama ticket and be our VP. I know in my heart there are 10’s of thousand or more like myself who hopefully have come to their sense’s, after what we just witnessed the last couple of weeks, how could you not..Yesterday Obama was giving his rally speech on the porch of an ex-republican..MSM made sure they mentioned that fact…and her ethnicity was white..they said she was dropping out of the GOP to support Obama…so I fear and can only imagine how many AfrAmer. will do the same…our only hope is an AfrAmer women for VP (Condi) and start it up asap,so we keep what support we always had…If Clinton can get elected with the kind of baggage she and Billy have then Condi is a saint..Who else is there? She has always walked with her head held high and has always been a class act..under very difficult situations. People who don’t like her can buckle it up on this one..cause winning is everything….Dick Morris has said Clinton,if elected will give a defacto amnesty to the illegals. Now some think that is already in use…maybe. I just don’t want to hear the Pres.of the USA saying its so on MSM..let’s not forget the most important part of all, the razor thin margin of victory the last 2 election..

Legions on July 5, 2007 at 4:28 PM

Is this Fred! ever gonna officially throw his hat in? Wasn’t he supposed to announce on the 4th of July? Methinks his trophy wife is more interested in him going for the Presidency than he is. But what do I know? Like Dennis Miller, I’m a Rudy guy…

The Sinner on July 5, 2007 at 4:29 PM

Legions on July 5, 2007 at 4:28 PM

Any Republican, except for Ron Paul, would be preferable to Hitlery. If the GOP doesn’t field a strong enough candidate, that’s exactly what we’ll have. Then it’s bye-bye USA as we know it.

jdawg on July 5, 2007 at 4:32 PM

and it becomes clear to the voters that the only reason he even got the Republican nomination is because he’s an empty-headed white southerner with a deep voice. It’ll be spectacular to see him try to keep up with Obama or Clinton in an actual debate. The man is a walking caricature of a dumbass Southern Republican.

Fragility on July 5, 2007 at 2:22 PM

I just don’t know what I would do if I didn’t have elitists like you telling me that I’m a dumbass southern republic. And to think that I went through the ENTIRE DAY thinking I was actually smart! Thanks.

I find it interesting that your idea of a debate is to sling insults to many of those who post here.

pullingmyhairout on July 5, 2007 at 4:34 PM

oops. i forgot to close my quotes. This is my comment to Fragility:

I just don’t know what I would do if I didn’t have elitists like you telling me that I’m a dumbass southern republic. And to think that I went through the ENTIRE DAY thinking I was actually smart! Thanks.

I find it interesting that your idea of a debate is to sling insults to many of those who post here.

pullingmyhairout on July 5, 2007 at 4:35 PM

But what do I know? Like Dennis Miller, I’m a Rudy guy…

The Sinner on July 5, 2007 at 4:29 PM

A Rudy guy- ah, so you’re a Democrat. Makes sense then.

Hollowpoint on July 5, 2007 at 4:37 PM

By making his campaign net-centric Fred is taking that newly awakened power of the electorate and focused a bright light on it. He is destroying the ability of the elitist liberal media to control elections by controlling the information the electorate has about the candidates.

Not only is the whole tag-team “debate” concept bizarre to me. But I’ve never even figured out why I’m supposed to care which ten people the media are telling me my “front runners” are. (For the record: I don’t.)

And this whole idiotic pre-primary primary process was just invented THIS FREAKING YEAR! But I guess if enough talking heads say enough times that’s the only way someone can be considered a “real” candidate, some people out there are going to believe it.

No matter. The only good thing you can say about such people is that they are very easily influenced. And a long time before November of 2008 rolls around, even they will have figured out who’s running. And assuming our candidate is Fred Thompson (which, for the record, I do), there will be no doubt in anyone’s mind exactly what he stands for. So as issues go, this isn’t one.

logis on July 5, 2007 at 4:37 PM

his trophy wife

like him or not, come on, that’s not necessary

Spirit of 1776 on July 5, 2007 at 4:40 PM

But I guess if enough talking heads say enough times that’s the only way someone can be considered a “real” candidate, some people out there are going to believe it.

If enough people in the MSM say the sky is green and the moon is made of green cheese, there’d be a lot of people who would believe it.

jdawg on July 5, 2007 at 4:42 PM

Won’t matter though, he’ll still get wiped out in the general election when it comes apparent how much of an empty suit he is,
Fragility on July 5, 2007 at 2:22 PM

fred? the faker isn’t going to make it through the primaries. All anyone has to do is watch his Leno, Robinson, and London Q&A, and it becomes painfully clear that fred? is the empty suit the non-groupies know him to be.

csdeven on July 5, 2007 at 4:43 PM

“The man is a walking caricature of a dumbass Southern Republican.”
I just don’t know what I would do if I didn’t have elitists like you telling me that I’m a dumbass southern republic. And to think that I went through the ENTIRE DAY thinking I was actually smart! Thanks.

So now the anti-Frederalists are aping the Democrats’ hatred of the southern states.

Yep. Another East Coast Rockefeller Republican candidate. That’s JUST what we need.

logis on July 5, 2007 at 4:45 PM

Yeah, Fred!s such an empty suit, that’s why all the hit pieces, and the high poll numbers!!!

Fred! doesn’t exist! He’s a Photoshop!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

jdawg on July 5, 2007 at 4:45 PM

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