just don’t understand why someone would move to this country with plans to stay here indefinately, work here, raise a family, ect…then never consider becoming a citizen. Oh but now since things are not going their way they want to influence American politics. Well, at least it did prompt them to do things right and perhaps will prompt more to be here legally.
boomer on July 5, 2007 at 8:22 AM

Could it be because they plan on living in Aztlan?

tballard on July 5, 2007 at 12:48 AM

Fat chance…they are being informed by their countless TV and radio programs. And most don’t really give a hoot about what concern’s we have facing this nation..their programing has it’s own agenda..like MayDay..

At a ceremony in Baghdad Wednesday, marines were among the service members who were naturalized.

Here’s bad news for pacifist parents and their one, perfect child: Citizens who won’t bear soldiers for their country can be replaced.

I deplore the sort of thinking that treats citizens and immigrants as mere interchangeable parts, so I welcome the opportunity to point out that sometimes an immigrant is an upgrade. It bears repeating: Citizens who won’t bear soldiers for their country can be replaced.

I’d love to see this canard that we’re against immigration in general, or “brown” people be shot down once and for all. It’s incredibly insulting and infuriating – and a major hindrance to our agenda.

pjaromin on July 5, 2007 at 8:25 AM

This entire party was formed from President Lincoln. The Democrat party currently employs a former keagle in the KKK who kept up correspondence with the KKK even in the 21st century.

And yet we can’t convince anyone that we’re not the anti-black party.

Unless we can get the Fairness Doctrine to apply to all forms of media instead of just the radio airwaves, what you’re propsing is simply impossible, especially when even our president and members of his staff have been tarring us as racists throughout this debate.

may not agree with their politics, but if they come in legally and go through the process of becoming a citizen, then more power to them. They have then earned the right to vote as they will and, because they have gone through the process, learned the language, taken the civics classes, etc., we at least have a chance that they will be able to make informed choices.

I couldn’t agree more.

Conservatives need to reach out to these folks — and prove to them that we have no problem with legal immigrants and welcome them as new citizens. These are the immigrants we want and need.

I’d love to see this canard that we’re against immigration in general, or “brown” people be shot down once and for all. It’s incredibly insulting and infuriating – and a major hindrance to our agenda.

One radio listener was Ángel Iván Álvarez, 24, a legal immigrant from Mexico who said he had never thought of becoming a citizen until last week when the Senate bill failed.

Now there’s your problem.

I just don’t understand why someone would move to this country with plans to stay here indefinately, work here, raise a family, ect…then never consider becoming a citizen. Oh but now since things are not going their way they want to influence American politics. Well, at least it did prompt them to do things right and perhaps will prompt more to be here legally.

I therefore am forced to conclude that this was the Clintons’ own idea. Or, knowing them, more likely a demand.

And after the Secret Service did this, Bill & Hill were most likely high-fiveing each other, with a big sh*t-eating grin on Bill’s mug and a “smile” more like a vampire baring its fangs on Hill’s. As they said;

“YESS! We’ve f**ked the baby-killers again!

When are people going to realize that these two “in-Duh-viduals” (to borrow a term from Scott Adams);

1. Hate, fear, and despise the American people; and

2. Hate, fear, despise and are personally terrified of the American military.

Never mind that any one or more than one of those men and women in uniform has already taken an oath (that Bill refused to take) that, among other things, would in event of an attack call upon them to lay down their lives for either one of these two “in-Duh-viduals”, in spite of their personal opinions of either one of the two.

And I know of no service man or woman who wouldn’t do it. Not because of who they are, but because of what they represent. Namely, a former Chief Executive and First Lady of this country.

That sort of loyalty (to a nation, and those who represent it), seems beyond the Clintons’ capacity to grasp. When in the White House, the only “loyalty” they were interested in was to themselves, not to the nation.

This incident forcibly reminds me of why I never trusted either one of them. And still don’t, and never will.

Whethter Bill & Hill believe it or not, the Presidency is not “all about them”.

cheers

eon

What can we do to finally be rid of those two? I feel greasy just reading the post

You know, when I read this sentence, I smirked in an evil way because I subliminally read it as:

What can we do to finally be rid of those two? I feel grassy, just reading this post.

Just for a couple seconds, is all, so Allah, don’t ban me.

N Iowan wrote on Jul 3, 2007 11:36 PM:

AND guns are not a necessary part of society – Republican or Democrat. If you are watching the news media coverage of the Middle East right now you’ll see what carrying guns on a daily basis does for a society. Our young men are dying over there amidst a people who do not honor life as we do. Guns are not necessary in the USA. “

Well see, King George tried to tell those nasty revolutionaries the same thing. And on Independence Day, you’d think a random moment of reflection would prevent this level of stupidity. But three generations now of socialist ideology in the public school system has made it impossible, for the facts are not made available to later be reflected upon. This buffoon really believes that human society is manageable without firearms.

I sure hope Nanny Sam has been treating him well all these years.

The citizenship campaigns have tapped into the uneasiness that legal immigrants, especially Hispanics, say is a result of months of debate over an immigration bill that failed last week in the Senate.

Wait a second I thought self-deportation (or in this case reverse self-deportation) would not work.

I realized that I want to be able to vote and speak up for my people, because they are not getting enough support.

I may not agree with their politics, but if they come in legally and go through the process of becoming a citizen, then more power to them. They have then earned the right to vote as they will and, because they have gone through the process, learned the language, taken the civics classes, etc., we at least have a chance that they will be able to make informed choices. That is why I get so upset with amnesty – when you just give away something as valuable as U.S. citizenship, it cheapens it and people lose their respect for the rights and privileges it represents, if they every had an inkling in the first place.

“I realized that I want to be able to vote and speak up for my people, because they are not getting enough support.”

Because illegal aliens need more representation…

The article says alot. Someone who “never thought of becoming a citizen ” wants to become a citizen to “speak” for his “people.” News flash Alvarez after you take the oath your people are Americans, those in the shadows are still aliens. You do not want to be an American, you just want to be a vote for Hispanic pandering, long live identity politics…

Thanks for exposing the fact that not every legal immigrant wants to be an American. You most certainly do not.

If you don’t apply for citizenship in 5 years you should lose the opportunity to become a citizen, and apply the law retroactivley to 1986.

What can we do to finally be rid of those two? I feel greasy just reading the post.

“I will always have Mexican blood,” Mr. Gutiérrez said, enjoying a day of rest on his first Fourth of July as an American citizen. “But my heart is here.”

So, how’s that assimilation thing coming along? Not so good, I guess.

sure we can start with those that DON’T own guns first. After all what are they going to do? Yell a little bit?

Plus its bullsh!t that they do this to the VFW vets. They’ve probably been doing this for ages, why should they change for the Clintons? This is why I hate liberals, they think they can just waltz in and change whatever they want. If I were in charge of the local parade I’d tell them to bugger off if they didn’t like how things were done.

N Iowan wrote on Jul 3, 2007 11:36 PM:

AND guns are not a necessary part of society – Republican or Democrat. If you are watching the news media coverage of the Middle East right now you’ll see what carrying guns on a daily basis does for a society. Our young men are dying over there amidst a people who do not honor life as we do. Guns are not necessary in the USA. “

Some people are just too goddamn stupid to be trusted with the right to free speech and are a danger to themselves and others. We obviously need Speech Control measures and bans on certain kinds of speech like this, perhaps mandatory registration for all people who want to spout inanities. See how easy it is to turn things around, numbskull?